Pc help.
by
JustBudah
February 13, 2015 at 8:02 PM UTC
Hey guys I am here with a new topic. I want to know if annyone can help me choosing between a Mac or a Pc and if you guys prefer a Pc please leave the best parts in the comments. My budget is a 900-1100 dollars.
I prefer Macs. I am using a Razor Deathaddar (Mouse) and a Razor Deathstalker (keyboard), so I don't use the Mac keyboards or mice. I wouldn't trade my Mac for a PC any day. But it is all about what feels comfortable and which you prefer.
I prefer Macs. I am using a Razor Deathaddar (Mouse) and a Razor Deathstalker (keyboard), so I don't use the Mac keyboards or mice. I wouldn't trade my Mac for a PC any day. But it is all about what feels comfortable and which you prefer.
What was the price in total with the mouse and keyboard? And how many fps are you getting in Minecraft?
What was the price in total with the mouse and keyboard? And how many fps are you getting in Minecraft?
Mouse+Keyboard= ~121. However, I didn't get them all at once. And I am getting about 120fps. My Mac is over 3 years old, so I don't know if that is a factor or not.
Mouse+Keyboard= ~121. However, I didn't get them all at once. And I am getting about 120fps. My Mac is over 3 years old, so I don't know if that is a factor or not.
CPU Clock Speed: 3.5 GHz GPU Clock Speed: 1.17 GHz 2 TB Seagate Barracuda HDD (You can place an SSD for the main storage :P like your OS etc.)
Motherboard is capable of overclock if you wish :)
The CPU Cooler definitely works for Overclocking
Idk if a 600W PSU would Support it, but I'm still learning :P
Way too overkill and a bad build in general. I'll post a build in a minute that will fit your needs and allow a little leeway if you want to do anything more intensive in the future.
Way too overkill and a bad build in general. I'll post a build in a minute that will fit your needs and allow a little leeway if you want to do anything more intensive in the future.
Well he did say $900 - $1100 so I just put together what I could xD
+ how is it a bad build?
The CPU is one of the best on the market The GPU is the best so far, for a fair price... Sure the HDD isnt the best but I got what I have... Agree, the case isnt the best either :P Ram = GOD Motherboard is decent...
Unless you're going to play BF4 On Ultra Settings Minecraft with shaders maxed out Or any Other FPS game at 1080p or even 4K + Ultra then no. Idk why he said my build was "bad" but whatever
Unless you're going to play BF4 On Ultra Settings Minecraft with shaders maxed out Or any Other FPS game at 1080p or even 4K + Ultra then no. Idk why he said my build was "bad" but whatever
And the one I posted will run nearly every modern title at medium - high settings at 1080p.
Aight, maybe looks cleaner for my case, but Im still not sure about 4GB of Memory, I mean 8GB isnt too expensive, + If he starts to render + recording etc. The CPU & Ram will be upgraded, but not saying your build is bad, but maybe instead of upgrading your build, just buy an OP one already?
Aight, maybe looks cleaner for my case, but Im still not sure about 4GB of Memory, I mean 8GB isnt too expensive, + If he starts to render + recording etc. The CPU & Ram will be upgraded, but not saying your build is bad, but maybe instead of upgrading your build, just buy an OP one already?
Why do that if there's also the equal possibility that you won't need the powerful features in the future?
4gb if fine for the purposes he has and more intensive ones. If he does need to use more, he can upgrade to 8, but if he doesn't need more, then he will have wasted $30 for no reason.
I'm on an iMac 21.5", 8gb ram, and I prefer it over PC. I get an average of 200-250fps on Minecraft, and if you use a gaming mouse instead of the Apple Magic Mouse, you shouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't recommend a MacBook Air though, mainly because of how annoying loud the fan is.
I have something that could help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k97UV85eybY PC is way cheaper for it's performance. I'm on a PC and I average around 300-600 fps. Try mine :D ________________________ NZXT Phantom 410 Gunmetal Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming Windforce OC Intel core i5 3470 3.2GHz 1x Kingston DDR3 8GB Ram Asus P8B75-M LX Motherboard
Asus vg248qe 144hz 1ms RT (Monitor) Func ms3 rev2 (Mouse) Razer Deathstalker (Keyboard) Razer Kraken 7.1 (Headset) Glorious PC gaming master race Update: The build that Detonator posted is decent. I'd go for that.
Honestly, it depends on how you're planning to use your computer. When I first got my MacBook Pro I didn't intend to use it to play games. But it works pretty well, and it's a laptop so I'm able to bring it with me :) But if you intend on using it for gaming, I have to say PC.
Well, my iMac runs nice and smoothly, doesn't overheat and can run multiple programs at once without a problem. Apple is generally good, none of my Apple products have never broken. (Except for today, BUT, only 3 iMacs have ever had the same problem as me, very unlikely it will happen again.)
Macs don't get viruses, but they do get Malware, keyloggers maybe, but they are generally safer than PCs. Macs are also more user friendly.
When I went to the US and went to those BestBuy locals, I found a PC that was 500$ US and runned MC at 60 fps, it didn't go up neither down. I downloaded MC there and started playing Avicus when Avicore was just released LOL.
I have a PC with 8 GB RAM, Works amazing and I run minecraft with 140 fps and almost don't have fps lags, however my connection is dead :l
I strongly recommend PC, because all the cool programs & tweaks are 100% downloadable for PC, but only 80% are downloadable for Mac, that's why PC is better.
Well, it's only my opinion, I have never tried Mac, but that's all I can tell you from my point of view :)
Well, my iMac runs nice and smoothly, doesn't overheat and can run multiple programs at once without a problem. Apple is generally good, none of my Apple products have never broken. (Except for today, BUT, only 3 iMacs have ever had the same problem as me, very unlikely it will happen again.)
Macs don't get viruses, but they do get Malware, keyloggers maybe, but they are generally safer than PCs. Macs are also more user friendly.
I have something that could help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k97UV85eybY PC is way cheaper for it's performance. I'm on a PC and I average around 300-600 fps. Try mine :D ________________________ NZXT Phantom 410 Gunmetal Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming Windforce OC Intel core i5 3470 3.2GHz 1x Kingston DDR3 8GB Ram Asus P8B75-M LX Motherboard
Asus vg248qe 144hz 1ms RT (Monitor) Func ms3 rev2 (Mouse) Razer Deathstalker (Keyboard) Razer Kraken 7.1 (Headset) Glorious PC gaming master race Update: The build that Detonator posted is decent. I'd go for that.
The only thing that I dont like about a Pc is the OS, compare to Apple's OS its sucks. But is a Mac for 1299 dollars worth it?
The only thing that I dont like about a Pc is the OS, compare to Apple's OS its sucks. But is a Mac for 1299 dollars worth it?
You can always get a refurbished one for a few hundred dollars off. To me, it's definitely worth the full price though, since I use a lot of the features bundled with Mac.
Ok. I've used both PC's and macs. PCs offer heaps more freedom and accessibility. The're generally more programs available for pc. Also, PCs are a breeze to fix if something goes wrong. Whereas macs have to be taken to a specialist. Also, Macs typically experience less problems. PCs also get more viruses than Macs, however they can be cleaned out pretty easy. If you want to game a lot, you definately don't want a mac. They are useless for games compared to pcs. A pc will also Cost a lot lesS and can be made very powerful. Pcs are east to upgrade too! My $350 pc runs minecraft at 80-150 fps. If you plan to do work and document stuff, choose a mac. For games, go with a pc. As for pc parts. with your budget, go for a powerful Intel i5 (i5 4660 or better), they are pretty powerful. Or amd cpu. Intel is more reliable though. Graphics card wise, take AT LEAST a nvidia gtx 460 or higher. Our an AMD equivalent. If you can go for a gtx 660 or 760. And as for ram. You want at least 8gb. and play minecraft with at least 4gb of ram. Hope this helps!
You can always get a refurbished one for a few hundred dollars off. To me, it's definitely worth the full price though, since I use a lot of the features bundled with Mac.
Hmmm, I have an idea maybe I can sell my Macbook for a decent price and get like 500 dollars for it cause my parents only give me the half of the price. Btw my Macbook is from late 2014. :)
True, it's expensive from Apple retail stores. But, I got mine from a store such as Myer, for $1000. New, not second-hand.
PC, I find has a lot of problems. My PC has broken over 16 times, one so bad it had to stay in IT for 6 months. During that time, all the spare PCs that I was given broke as well.
PCs are prone to very many malicious viruses, more than Macs.
PCs can be less user friendly, as I find, and slow for programs like Minecraft, Cinema4D and Skype.
Really, it's your choice, but I do hope you take some of my Mac wisdom into account when you decide. ;)
Well, my iMac runs nice and smoothly, doesn't overheat and can run multiple programs at once without a problem. Apple is generally good, none of my Apple products have never broken. (Except for today, BUT, only 3 iMacs have ever had the same problem as me, very unlikely it will happen again.)
Macs don't get viruses, but they do get Malware, keyloggers maybe, but they are generally safer than PCs. Macs are also more user friendly.
That's the link to the current one I use, I reccomend it to anyone. :)
Hope this helped!
1) If a a GTX 970 has trouble handling a 4K Display, a 5K display is even worse 2) You cannot fit a GTX 970 in it (Idk if you can, but judging by its size) 3) Mac's are mainly editing Computers, really arent used for gaming with the 5K display. 4) People say "Macs dont get viruses", they do, becuase they're known mostly in America, people dont target as much on them, but they do. 5) The price is ridiculous, $2,000 for a Mac? no.
Overall PC's are mostly better than Macs (For gaming), Unlike Macs, PC's Support all the way up to 3-Way SLI's or even 4 Way Crossfire. They dont cost as much, you can actually pick an AMD processor . Just my opinion :P
Why do people have problems with viruses on Windows. I know that it is easier to get a Virus on Windows , but in 7 years using different Windows versions I never managed to get a virus. I don't even use a Antivirus Programm.( only installing some once a year, running then and deinstalling them again ,)
True, it's expensive from Apple retail stores. But, I got mine from a store such as Myer, for $1000. New, not second-hand.
PC, I find has a lot of problems. My PC has broken over 16 times, one so bad it had to stay in IT for 6 months. During that time, all the spare PCs that I was given broke as well.
PCs are prone to very many malicious viruses, more than Macs.
PCs can be less user friendly, as I find, and slow for programs like Minecraft, Cinema4D and Skype.
Really, it's your choice, but I do hope you take some of my Mac wisdom into account when you decide. ;)
I have no idea why you had to take your pc back 16 times, but if that's the case, you probably did something wrong.
Everything is prone to viruses, don't go to shifty websites and you won't get them.
A PC at the same price as a mac will run everything better.
1) If a a GTX 970 has trouble handling a 4K Display, a 5K display is even worse 2) You cannot fit a GTX 970 in it (Idk if you can, but judging by its size) 3) Mac's are mainly editing Computers, really arent used for gaming with the 5K display. 4) People say "Macs dont get viruses", they do, becuase they're known mostly in America, people dont target as much on them, but they do. 5) The price is ridiculous, $2,000 for a Mac? no.
Overall PC's are mostly better than Macs (For gaming), Unlike Macs, PC's Support all the way up to 3-Way SLI's or even 4 Way Crossfire. They dont cost as much, you can actually pick an AMD processor . Just my opinion :P
Your parts list has two GPU's, the A8-5600k is an apu which has a powerful integrated graphics chip and there are cheaper models available that are the same but without it.
You'd be better off with an Athlon 860k which is as powerful, but without the graphics chip, which you won't need with the graphics card you have. As well as that, it's slightly more energy efficient and runs at a marginally higher clock speed.
Your parts list has two GPU's, the A8-5600k is an apu which has a powerful integrated graphics chip and there are cheaper models available that are the same but without it.
You'd be better off with an Athlon 860k which is as powerful, but without the graphics chip, which you won't need with the graphics card you have. As well as that, it's slightly more energy efficient and runs at a marginally higher clock speed.
Agreed, However, the 750 will come in handy when hes gonna do some Matrix 4K Hardcore rendering (If he does). Well, not even a 750 would do. As for the AMD its only a 2 core, games right now require 4 cores at most, If its just minecraft, 2 cores are plenty. Although Im not to good with APU's, I know some Intel CPU's Have better integrated graphics than even a GTX 770.
True, it's expensive from Apple retail stores. But, I got mine from a store such as Myer, for $1000. New, not second-hand.
PC, I find has a lot of problems. My PC has broken over 16 times, one so bad it had to stay in IT for 6 months. During that time, all the spare PCs that I was given broke as well.
PCs are prone to very many malicious viruses, more than Macs.
PCs can be less user friendly, as I find, and slow for programs like Minecraft, Cinema4D and Skype.
Really, it's your choice, but I do hope you take some of my Mac wisdom into account when you decide. ;)
Dang you're still pushing a Mac, I dont blame you.
Aight, for your PC problem, if It was CUSTOM built by YOU, Then Im pretty sure you made a mistake of choosing the Wrong PSU (Power Supply), My PC runs Great! Never had troubles with it. + With a Good anti-virus your PC is really safe. For example, Lets say you got to adfly, there is a link to a virus right? Kespersky, BitDefender, AVG, etc. are all great for protection from viruses.
Again, the 5K display makes it REALLY hard to play games, Especially when you cant Fit a GTX 780 Ti, or a 970... Those GPU's Are the best for 5K handling, Not including the Titan Z or Black.
Agreed, However, the 750 will come in handy when hes gonna do some Matrix 4K Hardcore rendering (If he does). Well, not even a 750 would do. As for the AMD its only a 2 core, games right now require 4 cores at most, If its just minecraft, 2 cores are plenty. Although Im not to good with APU's, I know some Intel CPU's Have better integrated graphics than even a GTX 770.
1. What 750? 2. The processor I recommended is the same as the one you recommended except slightly tweaked to provide more power for less energy. 3. It has 4 physical cores 4. All intel integrated graphics are sub GT 720 in terms of power.
Dang you're still pushing a Mac, I dont blame you.
Aight, for your PC problem, if It was CUSTOM built by YOU, Then Im pretty sure you made a mistake of choosing the Wrong PSU (Power Supply), My PC runs Great! Never had troubles with it. + With a Good anti-virus your PC is really safe. For example, Lets say you got to adfly, there is a link to a virus right? Kespersky, BitDefender, AVG, etc. are all great for protection from viruses.
Again, the 5K display makes it REALLY hard to play games, Especially when you cant Fit a GTX 780 Ti, or a 970... Those GPU's Are the best for 5K handling, Not including the Titan Z or Black.
No, the PC I had was a school laptop. I don't go on any malicious sites or anything of the sort. The first time, my PC was frozen. I had to get it reimaged, and lost all my work >:c
Reimaging takes a day, usually. But it took 6 months. During those 6 months, I was given another spare PC. Which broke, then another, which broke. All for different problems.
So far, I've only had 1 problem out of all the Macs I own.
Also, Macs don't get "viruses" so to speak, but they do get malware. Which isn't as dangerous, but still annoying.
I've grown up around PCs, but as soon as I made the switch to Mac, gaming, working and editing has never been so smooth. Macs are very easy to control.
:P That's why I dislike PCs. This isn't really a flame war, just a discussion. Everyone has a preference!
Although I'd appreciate advice on how to prevent my PC from stuffing up in the future! c;
I have something that could help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k97UV85eybY PC is way cheaper for it's performance. I'm on a PC and I average around 300-600 fps. Try mine :D ________________________ NZXT Phantom 410 Gunmetal Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming Windforce OC Intel core i5 3470 3.2GHz 1x Kingston DDR3 8GB Ram Asus P8B75-M LX Motherboard
Asus vg248qe 144hz 1ms RT (Monitor) Func ms3 rev2 (Mouse) Razer Deathstalker (Keyboard) Razer Kraken 7.1 (Headset) Glorious PC gaming master race Update: The build that Detonator posted is decent. I'd go for that.
No, the PC I had was a school laptop. I don't go on any malicious sites or anything of the sort. The first time, my PC was frozen. I had to get it reimaged, and lost all my work >:c
Reimaging takes a day, usually. But it took 6 months. During those 6 months, I was given another spare PC. Which broke, then another, which broke. All for different problems.
So far, I've only had 1 problem out of all the Macs I own.
Also, Macs don't get "viruses" so to speak, but they do get malware. Which isn't as dangerous, but still annoying.
I've grown up around PCs, but as soon as I made the switch to Mac, gaming, working and editing has never been so smooth. Macs are very easy to control.
:P That's why I dislike PCs. This isn't really a flame war, just a discussion. Everyone has a preference!
Although I'd appreciate advice on how to prevent my PC from stuffing up in the future! c;
Im sorry, but can you define "Viruses"?
"a piece of code that is capable of copying itself and typically has a detrimental effect, such as corrupting the system or destroying data." ^ Thats possible on a Mac + Malware are Viruses (Mal = Bad, Ware = Software) (Bad Software)
Macs definitely get viruses... I dont know where you got the Idea that they dont.
And I don't know what happen to your laptop, I have 2 ($200 ones) and they work fine, 2GB Ram, Intel Inside 1.8 GHz... Never had a blue screen, you must have been running Windows Vista, that has so many f*cking bugs...
From my own experience, i would prefer PC and heres why
First and foremost, PC would be cheaper to build depending on cost. You oculd build a cheaper PC that can perform the same quality as a MAC but a mac is usually "overpriced"
Also, there are more software available to PC so you could get some useful software as well. OF course, Apple does have good high end software such as final cut pro but there is more software availble to PC than Mac's in general. I would not really want to game on a MAC because im not really used to it and its to complicated for others such as my self (up to you of course). Some games aren't available on MAC but most games are typically available to PC. Also, Mac is not really built for gaming but more of like in a workstation
About the viresus thing. Mac's can STILL get viruses. It's just that there are fewer viruses on a MAC because there is like a system to protect it and people don't really make viruses for MAC. PC on the other hand tends to get viruses but hey, just get a free AVG anti virus software or something. IT would take care of it.
Finally, the most #1 reason why i think you should get or build (prefer building) a PC is because you can easily upgrade it cheaper. Think about it: if your upgrading a MAC, you would basically have to buy another $1000+ computer. On the other hand, you can switch your video card, processor, etc.. and upgrade for a much cheaper cost. And if you decide to upgrade your PC, you dont have to by another one but just replace some of the parts which is cheaper. The main disadvantage of Mac's imo is the fact you cannot really upgrade MAC parts because its hard and Apple simply wont let you do it cuz its a closed platform. You cannot really customize a Mac. (unless know how to upgrade Mac parts)
If your PC is broken, easy to fix. Get a new part and bam and i think its free compared taking a mac to a specialist (idk about it but pls tell me if im wrong). I would not want to go to a repair guy fixing my mac. too much of a hassle.
Mac to most people is user friendly to some people and its operating system looks better than windows. I gotta admit that but i find it harder to game on a mac than a pc (seriously, Ctrl +left click for right click?!?!)
Probably the main disadvantages to PC is you would have to upgrade at times and the building part. Building the PC is not really that hard but the hardest part is setting up the cables and wires and making sure you dont screw everything up.
So ya i would prefer PC but Mac's are good as well for gaming but some games/software may not be compatible with Mac and Mac is not really for professinal gaming. Your decsion is up to your personal preference but building a PC can be cheaper doe ;)
If you want to buy a Mac, go ahead but anyone who thinks Mac's can be used for professinal gaming is wrong.
1) Cant fit a GTX 970 into it.. The only GPU that can handle a 4K display (And a 980) Excluding the Titan Series... and 4K Display will become a thing faster than you think
2) Omg.. the 5K retina desiplay, Integrated graphics sucks for that... 3) I could keep going but my faith is lost with people who think macs are good...
1) Cant fit a GTX 970 into it.. The only GPU that can handle a 4K display (And a 980) Excluding the Titan Series... and 4K Display will become a thing faster than you think
2) Omg.. the 5K retina desiplay, Integrated graphics sucks for that... 3) I could keep going but my faith is lost with people who think macs are good...
1) Cant fit a GTX 970 into it.. The only GPU that can handle a 4K display (And a 980) Excluding the Titan Series... and 4K Display will become a thing faster than you think
2) Omg.. the 5K retina desiplay, Integrated graphics sucks for that... 3) I could keep going but my faith is lost with people who think macs are good...
Coming from a guy with R9 290X Crossfire (which demolishes the GTX 980) 4K is a lot harder to push than you think it is. A single 980 wouldn't be enough to max out 4K games. My R9 290X Crossfire rig is the bare minimum, and it's pretty much the best you can get right now.
I've played on a MAC, and unless you minimize the screen size (as in do not use fullscreen) whilst playing Minecraft, it lags. Get a PC, there is a lot more customization you can do to one.
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