Quality > Activity - Staff Slogan by KB_Random__ February 16, 2017 at 9:02 PM UTC
I'm just fucking done with the staff team. When players complain on the forums that the staff team is inactive, the only responses we get is:-"Staff members have lives too!"
-"You can record hackers and report them online!"
-"Qualitative staff is much more important than active staff."
-"You can ping the mods on slack!"
-"#StaffLivesMatter" (okay, that one not.)
-etc
It's just a fucking disgrace to this server that the staff team literally doesn't care about the community which is acutally PLAYING ON THE SERVER (I'm not saying each staff member, just the staff team generally.) I come on the server and want to play. 5 seconds after joining some random kid tps to me with InfiniteReach hacks and kills me. I check /staff - None online. What did I expect? What really bothers me is that this happened now 4 out of 5 times in the past at different times of the day.
There are people like
Jahaj who played 2 hours the past month and idk... 20 hours the past 6 months? and 
PokerFace who played 6 hours the past month. 
Elly didn't do shit for months or years. 
Arigenn who should not be demoted because he's inactive as fuck, but for not giving a shit about his own community and for being a fucking troll for not temp-retiring or completely retiring. And then the best: THE ADMINS AND SENIOR MODS WHO DONT CARE ABOUT THESE THINGS OR WHO DONT DO ANYTHING. Whenever someone asks when Arigenn gets demoted, the staff answers: "We are about to demote him, we just have to follow our policies and SHIT." WELL WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT POLICIES WHEN THE 99% OF THE COMMUNITY AND 99% OF THE STAFF TEAM WANTS HIM DEMOTED? What I would love the staff to do: Change their stupid polices that everyone can be demoted WITHOUT a warning and that QUALITY ISN'T MORE IMPORTANT THAN ACTIVITY and FUCKING OPEN YOUR STAFF APPLICATIONS AND ACCEPT MORE THAN JUST 6 PLAYERS OMFG.
GREETINGS
Moonman
KB_Random__ February 16, 2017 at 9:02 PM UTC
Can a Mod please move this to "Off Topic" and remove all the curse words instead of locking it? Thanks. I couldn't post it at "Off Topic" because it gives me a 500 error.
ALM yo fix it pal
_Stunned February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
Hey KB_Random_First of all I think u are posibly some right in what u said.... but insulting is not the way to fix something...
This post prob is going to be closed because u dont respect the real staff
Its true that there's less staff and every day we see hackers not banned
But it's not staff fault.. they have good staff and u need to see the positive side
So please relax and wait until staff fix this
PD: If any moderator read this.. please take the idea to have moderators like 20h every day... not the same guys. I mean like diferent time zones staff guys
Walt February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
keep in mind we dont have access to LOA's. Half the staff can be on leave (it was like that when I was mod, 10+ mods were always on LOA). Also, Elly has been developer for no where near a year, however I agree he hasn't done anything.KB_Random__ February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
keep in mind we dont have access to LOA's. Half the staff can be on leave (it was like that when I was mod, 10+ mods were always on LOA). Also, Elly has been developer for no where near a year, however I agree he hasn't done anything.
Rombeyy February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
Hey KB_Random_
First of all I think u are posibly some right in what u said.... but insulting is not the way to fix something...
This post prob is going to be closed because u dont respect the real staff
Its true that there's less staff and every day we see hackers not banned
But it's not staff fault.. they have good staff and u need to see the positive side
So please relax and wait until staff fix this
PD: If any moderator read this.. please take the idea to have moderators like 20h every day... not the same guys. I mean like diferent time zones staff guys
Walt February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
I asked a staff member a few days or weeks how many staff members were LOA and they replied with "almost none".
KB_Random__ February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
well, they really cant say no matter what rank they are (admin,senior, etc) so they might have lied :c
Walt February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
Staff members lie? Well, another reason why the quality of the staff team dropped harder than the twin towers.
KB_Random__ February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
Never really said they lied, its more of not trying to be demoted so they say certain things and keep certain things secret.
Walt February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
If they want to keep certain things secret they should reply with "It's confident."
kon333 February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
If you want to actually achieve anything with this post you should probably get rid of it all and rewrite it because they arent going to listen to you if you insult them, swear in every other sentence and tag mods who are inactive. Just saying..KB_Random__ February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
If you want to actually achieve anything with this post you should probably get rid of it all and rewrite it because they arent going to listen to you if you insult them, swear in every other sentence and tag mods who are inactive. Just saying..
kon333 February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
The curse words should express my feelings. I'm fucking pissed.
PokerFace February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
Demotions don't help the matter, especially with the case of moderators. I'm not preventing anyone else from being promoted.I'm not as active as I used to be, I get it, but would you rather have me retire and make no contributions, or stay and make some contribution here and there? The more moderators that stay around, the better.
TheColdCrafter February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
So you would rather have more staff on, but more people get false banned, and have the staff team be a bunch of dicks? And, demoting mods is supposed to help? even if they only come on once a week, thats once more a week than you would have if you demoted them, so as long as they are helping the server out, i don't see the problem? and all the solutions that you mocked in the OP are actually what you are supposed to do, and it would help out more to do those than to complain about them. either offer a good solution or just stop.Iron February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
Demotions don't help the matter, especially with the case of moderators. I'm not preventing anyone else from being promoted.
I'm not as active as I used to be, I get it, but would you rather have me retire and make no contributions, or stay and make some contribution here and there? The more moderators that stay around, the better.
KB_Random__ February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
Demotions don't help the matter, especially with the case of moderators. I'm not preventing anyone else from being promoted.
I'm not as active as I used to be, I get it, but would you rather have me retire and make no contributions, or stay and make some contribution here and there? The more moderators that stay around, the better.
TheColdCrafter February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
If you get demoted some other kid which is more active could take your slot in the staff team.
AtditC February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
I agree with most of your points, but I'm too lazy to write my own opinion again.People would react to it like this anyway:
xd
AtditC February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
thats not how it works
TheColdCrafter February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
I agree with most of your points, but I'm too lazy to write my own opinion again.
People would react to it like this anyway:
xd
Jiloker February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
I am already tired of these Publications, but it is part of the reality and I like to see how they fight in some of them.thespina February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
I agreea lot of excuses xp
PokerFace February 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM UTC
If as you said was true, the 5 punishments you make a week really arent that significant. Someone else could have issued them for sure.
It's true, someone else could issue them, but most would be issued hours later.
Keep in mind I'm a Hawaii boy.
PokerFace February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
If you get demoted some other kid which is more active could take your slot in the staff team.
Acceqted February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
keep in mind we dont have access to LOA's. Half the staff can be on leave (it was like that when I was mod, 10+ mods were always on LOA). Also, Elly has been developer for no where near a year, however I agree he hasn't done anything.
Walt February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
"FUCKING OPEN YOUR STAFF APPLICATIONS AND ACCEPT MORE THAN JUST 6 PLAYERS OMFG."Well you see the problem is that there isn't enough players on the server with good enough experience as staff on other networks to really promote more than 3-4 players at a time.
Rombeyy February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
"FUCKING OPEN YOUR STAFF APPLICATIONS AND ACCEPT MORE THAN JUST 6 PLAYERS OMFG."
Well you see the problem is that there isn't enough players on the server with good enough experience as staff on other networks to really promote more than 3-4 players at a time.
kon333 February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
im good
Crazy_ February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
Well technically it is because the Senior Staff would be more encouraged to find new moderators
xNemoII February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
tbh in some ways i agree with this, they're so many inactive mods i know
XtraMajestical has come on every time in the morning and find a hacker and having to msg a mod to ban them that shouldnt happen ALL THE TIMEyou say mods have lives too to deal with and shit then if you can't contribute to the server then you should just retire
also idk how long you're allowed to be on LOA but if its like 1-2 months then thats just wrong. It should be like 2 weeks tops idk thats just my opinion, you cant have everyone on LOA for such a long time cos that means you basically have very low amount of mods to work with and in addition to this you can easily just lie and say you want to be on LOA and make up a reason when you could just be bored of moderating but still want to be mod
Also when you say 'we are looking for people are ready to be mod' you have jr mod for a reason why can't you just trial them
and also why is
AMIES still jr mod hes been jr mod for yearsi feel like some mods are trying to find excuses to why they're not active idk if it seems like im excusing the staff team this is just what i see and how i feel this situation is rn
Junr February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
tbh in some ways i agree with this, they're so many inactive mods i know
you say mods have lives too to deal with and shit then if you can't contribute to the server then you should just retire
also idk how long you're allowed to be on LOA but if its like 1-2 months then thats just wrong. It should be like 2 weeks tops idk thats just my opinion, you cant have everyone on LOA for such a long time cos that means you basically have very low amount of mods to work with and in addition to this you can easily just lie and say you want to be on LOA and make up a reason when you could just be bored of moderating but still want to be mod
Also when you say 'we are looking for people are ready to be mod' you have jr mod for a reason why can't you just trial them
and also why is
i feel like some mods are trying to find excuses to why they're not active idk if it seems like im excusing the staff team this is just what i see and how i feel this situation is rn
Myworld6 February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
Staff members lie? Well, another reason why the quality of the staff team dropped harder than the twin towers.
xNemoII February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
LOA can only be up 3 weeks or you have to take a temp retirement. You have to ask the Mentors about iAbusing.
profbananaslug February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
how many LOA can you take at a time
Junr February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
how many LOA can you take at a time
Rombeyy February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
#ROMBEYYFORADMIM
AtditC February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
It's not like we say there can only be x amount of mods and the slots need to open before we can get more
ALM February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
keep in mind we dont have access to LOA's. Half the staff can be on leave (it was like that when I was mod, 10+ mods were always on LOA). Also, Elly has been developer for no where near a year, however I agree he hasn't done anything.
AutoTool February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
Exactly half a year, actually. AND HE HAS MADE 4 COMMITS OK?
ALM February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
stop wasting time on the forums and fix blood ok?
imryaan February 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM UTC
Exactly half a year, actually. AND HE HAS MADE 4 COMMITS OK?
;)
profbananaslug February 17, 2017 at 12:02 AM UTC
Blood is fixed ok?
can you fix this next
ALM February 17, 2017 at 12:02 AM UTC
We're all about transparency here at the Avicus network!As you can see, the work load is evenly divided.
Jiloker February 17, 2017 at 12:02 AM UTC
"FUCKING OPEN YOUR STAFF APPLICATIONS AND ACCEPT MORE THAN JUST 6 PLAYERS OMFG."
Well you see the problem is that there isn't enough players on the server with good enough experience as staff on other networks to really promote more than 3-4 players at a time.
And I also think that I'm not the only one that happens to him.
dev_revs February 17, 2017 at 12:02 AM UTC
This is when
joelous would come in and make a nice post about how he will look at this type of stuff, very mature and respected Ex Sr. rip. Lets put this in real life. A customers order is made wrong, he's not going to suggest how to fix it, he's going to ask them to fix it and complain about it(just how it works most of the time). We shouldn't be responsible for giving ideas on how to fix the team, especially when problems have been around for quite some time now.
Howsie February 17, 2017 at 1:02 AM UTC
Pretty upsetting considering the amount of work the 2013-2014 team put into having clearly defined values and motives for the daily running of the server/community. I dunno if its a power struggle between the three main hierarchical ranks or just a result of a totally diminished server population. Something needs to changeAtditC February 17, 2017 at 2:02 AM UTC
Pretty upsetting considering the amount of work the 2013-2014 team put into having clearly defined values and motives for the daily running of the server/community. I dunno if its a power struggle between the three main hierarchical ranks or just a result of a totally diminished server population. Something needs to change
_DipperPines February 17, 2017 at 2:02 AM UTC
The curse words should express my feelings. I'm fucking pissed.
Goodnighht February 17, 2017 at 3:02 AM UTC
If this is so annoying then gives ideas to fix it. I'm not even going to fight this again... There's been so many posts like this and with all of them I've seen, what, two(?) good ideas that are actually logical and helpful? Instead of making complaints give an idea to fix it... A whole new post on this topic is the most unhelpful and pointless thing you could have done at this point... Like honestly if you're not going to give a new idea then why are you even ranting?Rombeyy February 17, 2017 at 3:02 AM UTC
If this is so annoying then gives ideas to fix it. I'm not even going to fight this again... There's been so many posts like this and with all of them I've seen, what, two(?) good ideas that are actually logical and helpful? Instead of making complaints give an idea to fix it... A whole new post on this topic is the most unhelpful and pointless thing you could have done at this point... Like honestly if you're not going to give a new idea then why are you even ranting?
TooSweetSki February 17, 2017 at 4:02 AM UTC
People keep saying we need to open up staff apps to fix the staff activity problem.. but who in the community is good enough to become a mod?I can't think of 3 people in the community who I'd want as Mod or who I think can be capable at becoming a good Mod.
I also agree that inactive staff need to step down.
Demoting people without warning is a bit fucked @OP
But the current system seems waaay too lenient.
Myworld6 February 17, 2017 at 4:02 AM UTC
People keep saying we need to open up staff apps to fix the staff activity problem.. but who in the community is good enough to become a mod?
I can't think of 3 people in the community who I'd want as Mod or who I think can be capable at becoming a good Mod.
I also agree that inactive staff need to step down.
Demoting people without warning is a bit fucked @OP
But the current system seems waaay too lenient.
TooSweetSki February 17, 2017 at 4:02 AM UTC
With all due respect, there are a fair few community members who would say that you're not good enough to be mod. Just saying.
The amount of time I spend Moderating by myself is far greater than the amount of time I spend Moderating with others.
But that's besides the point. I don't know who can join the staff team that'd be any good. That's just my opinion.
Posighdun February 17, 2017 at 4:02 AM UTC
We have policy for a reason and we have to follow it by the letter. I understand you may be frustrated but policy is policy, if we don't follow it then we get in trouble and possibly demoted.We are about to change the LOA system though.
Posighdun February 17, 2017 at 4:02 AM UTC
how many LOA can you take at a time
TooSweetSki February 17, 2017 at 4:02 AM UTC
We have policy for a reason and we have to follow it by the letter. I understand you may be frustrated but policy is policy, if we don't follow it then we get in trouble and possibly demoted.
We are about to change the LOA system though.
What's gonna change?