Discussion Time [Opinions]
by
Numberz_
June 29, 2015 at 10:06 PM UTC
Alright so I want to have bit of a discussion about the server, staff, rules, tourney, TS, etc. Just give construction criticism about the the subjects I listed no "the server is absolute shit everyone sucks!" make sure you give reasons on problems and how they can be fixed. This should help the administrators and Sr staff fix some problems and become more open about things happening on Avicus.
Ps: Don't lock this its needed as a community discussion.
Server -Fix the darn block lag somehow even if it means changing server hosts. -Voting
Staff -Be more friendly -Give more verbal warnings -I gotta say this, but be less bias.
Rules -Tempbans for 1st hack, bans for 2nd. -Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to.
Tourney -Have all the information given at once instead of in chunks. -Be accurate in what you say. Seedings were said to be used in the Q&A post yet they weren't. -Find ways to allow all teams that applied to play. (Might be challenging) -Media page.
Yeah, I agree and I find there isn't a set rule in place on what's allowed and what isn't.
There could be a guideline created towards when topics are valid to be locked/what types of topics should be locked, just like there's one for the forum rules.
Server -Fix the darn block lag somehow even if it means changing server hosts. -Voting
Staff -Be more friendly -Give more verbal warnings -I gotta say this, but be less bias.
Rules -Tempbans for 1st hack, bans for 2nd. -Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to.
Tourney -Have all the information given at once instead of in chunks. -Be accurate in what you say. Seedings were said to be used in the Q&A post yet they weren't. -Find ways to allow all teams that applied to play. (Might be challenging) -Media page.
Teamspeak -All's well here.
Pretty much agree with everything, except the retired staff thing.
Server -Fix the darn block lag somehow even if it means changing server hosts. -Voting
Staff -Be more friendly -Give more verbal warnings -I gotta say this, but be less bias.
Rules -Tempbans for 1st hack, bans for 2nd. -Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to.
Tourney -Have all the information given at once instead of in chunks. -Be accurate in what you say. Seedings were said to be used in the Q&A post yet they weren't. -Find ways to allow all teams that applied to play. (Might be challenging) -Media page.
Teamspeak -All's well here.
-We are changing server hosts; however, I kinda dont agree with temp banning for first hacking punishments. Kinda stupid that they could come back, whaddya think? -Admins can come back if they want. Its just a lot of them do not wish to do so.
- We cannot be less bias, its a human extinct; we cant really do anything about that.
- A Verbal Warning is the same thing as a /warn. /warn's are not treated as heavy infractions, they will not hurt you in almost any scenario.
- You should talk to mods who you think need to be more friendly.
-We are changing server hosts; however, I kinda dont agree with temp banning for first hacking punishments. Kinda stupid that they could come back, whaddya think? -Admins can come back if they want. Its just a lot of them do not wish to do so.
- We cannot be less bias, its a human extinct; we cant really do anything about that.
- A Verbal Warning is the same thing as a /warn. /warn's are not treated as heavy infractions, they will not hurt you in almost any scenario.
- You should talk to mods who you think need to be more friendly.
Good to hear on the new server hosts :D If the hacking player comes back, that would be their last visit to Avicus if they continue to hack. Most players who hack doit because they think they can get away with it. If they get temp-banned, they'll realize they can't get away with it and will most likely stop hacking on the server that they get punished on.
Good to hear on the new server hosts :D If the hacking player comes back, that would be their last visit to Avicus if they continue to hack. Most players who hack doit because they think they can get away with it. If they get temp-banned, they'll realize they can't get away with it and will most likely stop hacking on the server that they get punished on.
Meh, generally if someone gets banned for hacking they can appeal in about 3 months or so. In that sense, it is sort of like a temp ban.
Oh and also, if the server host hasn't been decided yet, I recommend https://www.minespan.com/plans The price is pretty darn cheap ($1.50/GB) so that you can buy more RAM. I'm not sure of the hosting locations however.
Server -Fix the darn block lag somehow even if it means changing server hosts. -Voting
Staff -Be more friendly -Give more verbal warnings -I gotta say this, but be less bias.
Rules -Tempbans for 1st hack, bans for 2nd. -Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to.
Tourney -Have all the information given at once instead of in chunks. -Be accurate in what you say. Seedings were said to be used in the Q&A post yet they weren't. -Find ways to allow all teams that applied to play. (Might be challenging) -Media page.
Teamspeak -All's well here.
Server -Fix the darn block lag somehow even if it means changing server hosts: The block lag is a real pain it was fixed once before helpfully it can be fixed again. -Voting: Yes please this would be very helpful.
Staff -Be more friendly: This only applies for some staff sometimes things can be seen as rude but its only their way of enforcing the rules. -Give more verbal warnings: Yeah this is really needed, but sometimes it can't be done if a mod is watching a hacker they don't want to blow their cover. -I gotta say this, but be less bias: I agree but you can't really completely get rid of it, its part of human nature.
Rules -Tempbans for 1st hack, bans for 2nd: I don't think this is really needed. Avicus has a better appeal system now so its easier for players to simply appeal their punishments. -Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to: I agree with this but maybe not as full admin but a senior staff position for sure.
Tourney -Have all the information given at once instead of in chunks: Yeah info needs to be more clear without dates changing every day. -Be accurate in what you say. Seedings were said to be used in the Q&A post yet they weren't: I agree. -Find ways to allow all teams that applied to play. (Might be challenging): Very hard. -Media page: Yes along with Jr mapdevs.
-We are changing server hosts; however, I kinda dont agree with temp banning for first hacking punishments. Kinda stupid that they could come back, whaddya think? -Admins can come back if they want. Its just a lot of them do not wish to do so.
- We cannot be less bias, its a human extinct; we cant really do anything about that.
- A Verbal Warning is the same thing as a /warn. /warn's are not treated as heavy infractions, they will not hurt you in almost any scenario.
- You should talk to mods who you think need to be more friendly.
Of course bias can be worked on. Please don't use the "human nature" thing as a cover up.
Regarding the staff that need to be friendlier, it's not our job to tell them. Keep an eye on your staff and tell them if they need to be friendlier or not. I'm not entirely sure staff will take what players say seriously.
Oh and also, if the server host hasn't been decided yet, I recommend https://www.minespan.com/plans The price is pretty darn cheap ($1.50/GB) so that you can buy more RAM. I'm not sure of the hosting locations however.
Thanks for the suggestion, but Ivy has plans for the new host already! :)
Server -Fix the darn block lag somehow even if it means changing server hosts: The block lag is a real pain it was fixed once before helpfully it can be fixed again. -Voting: Yes please this would be very helpful.
Staff -Be more friendly: This only applies for some staff sometimes things can be seen as rude but its only their way of enforcing the rules. -Give more verbal warnings: Yeah this is really needed, but sometimes it can't be done if a mod is watching a hacker they don't want to blow their cover. -I gotta say this, but be less bias: I agree but you can't really completely get rid of it, its part of human nature.
Rules -Tempbans for 1st hack, bans for 2nd: I don't think this is really needed. Avicus has a better appeal system now so its easier for players to simply appeal their punishments. -Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to: I agree with this but maybe not as full admin but a senior staff position for sure.
Tourney -Have all the information given at once instead of in chunks: Yeah info needs to be more clear without dates changing every day. -Be accurate in what you say. Seedings were said to be used in the Q&A post yet they weren't: I agree. -Find ways to allow all teams that applied to play. (Might be challenging): Very hard. -Media page: Yes along with Jr mapdevs.
Teamspeak -All's well here.
-Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to: I agree with this but maybe not as full admin but a senior staff position for sure.
They can return with the same policies as a normal staff's retirement policy i.e They start from Jr Mod. They retired for a reason.
Of course bias can be worked on. Please don't use the "human nature" thing as a cover up.
Regarding the staff that need to be friendlier, it's not our job to tell them. Keep an eye on your staff and tell them if they need to be friendlier or not. I'm not entirely sure staff will take what players say seriously.
Well, as a community it would be kind of nice of you guys to help out the moderators. Of course, we will tell the moderators to loosen up. However, it wouldn't hurt for you guys to give them some tips or help sometimes! :P Also bias is a very trivial topic, it is kind of hard to remove bias, also I'm not using it as a cover up! :P Im just saying it is very hard and always will be very hard to get rid of bias.
Well, as a community it would be kind of nice of you guys to help out the moderators. Of course, we will tell the moderators to loosen up. However, it wouldn't hurt for you guys to give them some tips or help sometimes! :P Also bias is a very trivial topic, it is kind of hard to remove bias, also I'm not using it as a cover up! :P Im just saying it is very hard and always will be very hard to get rid of bias.
We do try to help. What do you think this whole discussion is about?
We do try to help. What do you think this whole discussion is about?
Oh I'm talking about reaching out to moderators in game and on other means like skype and teamspeak. Obviously we appreciate discussions such as this one.
Oh I'm talking about reaching out to moderators in game and on other means like skype and teamspeak. Obviously we appreciate discussions such as this one.
Hehe, I've tried reaching out and I'm usually brushed off.
Also, bias IS human nature, you're right, but it's severity is usually a maturity and personality thing. They're pretty hard to weed out. However, I think staff should ask for at least 3 opinions from other staff that they would not usually talk to before they do something. It can help with getting rid of bias.
-We are changing server hosts; however, I kinda dont agree with temp banning for first hacking punishments. Kinda stupid that they could come back, whaddya think? -Admins can come back if they want. Its just a lot of them do not wish to do so.
- We cannot be less bias, its a human extinct; we cant really do anything about that.
- A Verbal Warning is the same thing as a /warn. /warn's are not treated as heavy infractions, they will not hurt you in almost any scenario.
- You should talk to mods who you think need to be more friendly.
https://avicus.net/festivaltesticle He was in games full of mods, had to report on an alt account to get him verbally warned from a mod for speaking inappropriately.
I'm sure I can re-name my alt like "GucciGooch" and it would be banned for 30 days due to inappropriate name.
I have nothing against Tel, just proving that you can work on bias and make it less. Just because someone is an old Admin gives them no right to be above the rules
I wouldn't ban someone with the name "GucciGooch."However, I see what you mean. May I suggest that next time you report that to the senior staff, also if you would like pm on skype right now about that situation. My skype is ironsoldier_2000. :)
I wouldn't ban someone with the name "GucciGooch."However, I see what you mean. May I suggest that next time you report that to the senior staff, also if you would like pm on skype right now about that situation. My skype is ironsoldier_2000. :)
Why is "FestivalTesticle" allowed? Its basically FestivalPenis.
"destroy the monument" "Kill everyone after the walls fall"
its ts always the same.
Walls maps like Monsterbash and Groto arena were the best because fit being different from the other maps. Maps have been very plain lately. Nothing unique about them
"destroy the monument" "Kill everyone after the walls fall"
its ts always the same.
Walls maps like Monsterbash and Groto arena were the best because fit being different from the other maps. Maps have been very plain lately. Nothing unique about them
Monsterbash and Grotto arena were removed because they wouldn't work on a 1.7/1.8 server, but yeah I'd love to see them back. Also unique maps Polar has been making tons of new maps that have neat features just wish there was more like them.
Server: - Fix the knockback. - Advertising troubles. - Rule revamp. Staff: - Staff training. - Another re-assesment since we have way too many mods right now. - Don't enforce the rules so quickly, I feel like you're too thirsty about them. Anyway, I'm not saying any names. Tournament: - Don't make it last 1 month and a half. - Make sure teams do show up (Making the tourney shorter might solve this). TS: - Rule revamp.
I guess I might as well voice a few of my own opinions here. I'm not trying to hate too much on the staff or anything, but there do need to be changes.
Staff need to do more outreach to regular players, ex: a small staff meeting where community members can be invited to voice their opinions. Right now a lot of players feel they can't say anything without being ignored or punished.
Also I'm going to say it now and here. There are several people who have complained about the amount of bias in the staff system. There will always be bias, but you are right. I've been seeing some growth in the bias over the last few months.
The bias is going to destroy this server. The favoritism among the staff is so obvious at this point, at least to me. If there could be 10 admins (I don't know if there can be more than 2), I can pretty much predict who they would be without deserving it one bit. And no, I'm not just saying this because I agree with everyone else or because I just want to upset the staff, I have strong evidence.
The bias is going to destroy this server. The favoritism among the staff is so obvious at this point, at least to me. If there could be 10 admins (I don't know if there can be more than 2), I can pretty much predict who they would be without deserving it one bit. And no, I'm not just saying this because I agree with everyone else or because I just want to upset the staff, I have strong evidence.
Disgusting.
Give me your evidence please, the senior moderators can vote to demote moderators. My skype is Ironsoldier_2000
I wouldn't disagree with the bias, but I haven't seen a single person offer a solution to it. Putting complaints about the bias gets us nowhere. We're aware, as much as it may shock you, of the bias in the staff team. However it's not as though the solution is as simple as /ban. As a community who is witness to this, YOU need to present feedback on how we can fix it. I'm open ears and waiting for help.
The bias is going to destroy this server. The favoritism among the staff is so obvious at this point, at least to me. If there could be 10 admins (I don't know if there can be more than 2), I can pretty much predict who they would be without deserving it one bit. And no, I'm not just saying this because I agree with everyone else or because I just want to upset the staff, I have strong evidence.
Disgusting.
You're so disgusted, please do something about it.
Maybe send us a complaint with all this strong evidence you have?
I wouldn't disagree with the bias, but I haven't seen a single person offer a solution to it. Putting complaints about the bias gets us nowhere. We're aware, as much as it may shock you, of the bias in the staff team. However it's not as though the solution is as simple as /ban. As a community who is witness to this, YOU need to present feedback on how we can fix it. I'm open ears and waiting for help.
That's community bias, if its what I think you're suggesting. It's a good thought, but I can't see the staff team being ran by something like strawpoll. Honestly bias is something we can't avoid as a whole, but I'd personally like to crack down on this a bit (if it means anything to you).
Think before you do. One time, I remember I was in a really bad mood, and kept raging. A moderator, who's name will remain unknown, verbally warned me a couple of times, and I stopped. A couple of minutes later, some people were making jokes about the vine "DEEZ NUTZ". I said "Dont make fun of nuts" "I LIKE NUTS". And apparently that's inappropriate. I got a warn for that and I was really pissed.
Other than that, community is fine, TeamSpeak is fine, but Tournament needs to be more organised, and the staff is extrememly biased. The block lag needs to be fixed. Ive probably played a total of 15 hours since the Omega update, due to me being busy, and the block lag is terrible. I literally cant wall walk.
Why should I waste my time if nothing's going to be fixed?
Nothing's going to be fixed unless you take an initiative other than being toxic on the forums. Please send me the evidence and we can work from there.
That's community bias, if its what I think you're suggesting. It's a good thought, but I can't see the staff team being ran by something like strawpoll. Honestly bias is something we can't avoid as a whole, but I'd personally like to crack down on this a bit (if it means anything to you).
Let's say an admin steps down, the staff can vote on a senior to take place of that admin as well as have the community vote. Surely there will be no bias if not a little due to the fact that the decision will be based on hundreds of people.
Oh I'm talking about reaching out to moderators in game and on other means like skype and teamspeak. Obviously we appreciate discussions such as this one.
I'm not going to waste my time on something I really don't care about. I just try to fight for the things that I think are wrong.
Server -Fix the darn block lag somehow even if it means changing server hosts. -Voting
Staff -Be more friendly -Give more verbal warnings -I gotta say this, but be less bias.
Rules -Tempbans for 1st hack, bans for 2nd. -Admins who retired may choose to return if they desire to.
Tourney -Have all the information given at once instead of in chunks. -Be accurate in what you say. Seedings were said to be used in the Q&A post yet they weren't. -Find ways to allow all teams that applied to play. (Might be challenging) -Media page.
Teamspeak -All's well here.
We'll be sure to fix some of your suggestions/complaints next tourney, I'll be sure of it :)
Just a reminder to both the staff and community, this is NOT going to turn into a flame war, alright? I can see tension coming from both ends, I advise staff and community calm down. Remember what this discussion is about.
Give me a break with the "send in a complaint" thing, that's what the entire community is doing right now.
And you can speak for the entire community on their behalf? This thread is designed for suggestions and opinions, not complaints. It's a discussion. Send your complaints elsewhere. If they're on here, then you're doing something very wrong, because, as of the 10th time, nothing will be accomplished if we take everything out in small forum posts and not request personal help. I'm not busy like 80% of the time, I play osu! for a living. Send me a complaint, I'll forward it. Send it to an admin. Regardless, you're still contributing. We can't hear anything if you're whispering guys.
Just a reminder to both the staff and community, this is NOT going to turn into a flame war, alright? I can see tension coming from both ends, I advise staff and community calm down. Remember what this discussion is about.
Frozen, you kind of started the toxicity. Regardless, I shant continue.
And you can speak for the entire community on their behalf? This thread is designed for suggestions and opinions, not complaints. It's a discussion. Send your complaints elsewhere. If they're on here, then you're doing something very wrong, because, as of the 10th time, nothing will be accomplished if we take everything out in small forum posts and not request personal help. I'm not busy like 80% of the time, I play osu! for a living. Send me a complaint, I'll forward it. Send it to an admin. Regardless, you're still contributing. We can't hear anything if you're whispering guys.
--------------------------------------------------- Bad. Eh Meepcraft. Badlion. WL AV. OCN. You are going towards Meepcraft bias which is bad...very bad. There is a problem if badlion and ocn don't look as bias. I am on my phone, sue me
Staff bias: As Ambi said, stop making excuses that staff cannot improve, they can. Improving is endless. Plus lying to players about it... makes it even worse. Its not even funny how mods try to cover things up... Now I'm ONLY referring to mods, not Sr.Mods, not admins, none of those.
I just feel like when you fall into the interview stage to become a mod. Most applicants lie so much... and they don't do a single thing they promise. But, that's just what it seems to me... This calls for a muzz.
[If i made any mistakes during this post, I apologize on my behalf, I'm really tired and in need of sleep]
Staff bias: As Ambi said, stop making excuses that staff cannot improve, they can. Improving is endless. Plus lying to players about it... makes it even worse. Its not even funny how mods try to cover things up... Now I'm ONLY referring to mods, not Sr.Mods, not admins, none of those.
I just feel like when you fall into the interview stage to become a mod. Most applicants lie so much... and they don't do a single thing they promise. But, that's just what it seems to me... This calls for a muzz.
[If i made any mistakes during this post, I apologize on my behalf, I'm really tired and in need of sleep]
Yeah, I agree and I find there isn't a set rule in place on what's allowed and what isn't.
My thread has a quote from Kylo himself about the rule ;~; Can't say I do a lot of useful things, thought I'd get at least some credit x3
Anyway..
Server: I've been on a lot of crappy servers in my time. Avicus is not a bad server, although it could do with some more players. We're constantly working on improvements that will make Avicus a better server.
Staff: All I can say is, if you every have any issues with the staff, contact a Senior staff member. If you have an issue with a Senior staff member, contact an administrator. If you have an issue with an administrator, tell the other administrator. If that doesn't work, that's where I play a decent, not quite vital role. I wouldn't bother approaching us without evidence (even if it's a little vague, although clear and valid evidence is better), because we need to be top-notch. EDIT: What I meant but "All I can say is..", is that I don't feel comfortable with going into detail with the staff team itself. All I will say is that there is room for improvement, although I've seen far (farfarfarfarfar) worse staff teams.. I've even been part of worse staff teams, it isn't fun.
Rules: I see no issues with them. Feel free to reply to this if you see any.
Tournament: We have had one tournament, and you're already throwing knives at us. It was mainly experimental, and I can assure you that future ones will be better. We will always work on making them better.
I can't comment on TS, considering I never go in it.
I'm rather tired at the moment, so this is kind of a mediocre post, but the above points are my honest opinion. I know there's some flaws on Avicus, whether that's with staff, tournaments, TS, etc., but I've been on much worse servers. Avicus is not a bad server, but it's not perfect. There's always room for improvement.
EDIT: Oh, this went south quickly. Uhm oops, my bad. I've also noticed that many people complain, yet a lot of people don't privately message a staff member about the issues. I'm always happy to talk about these kinds of things, if needed. You can't expect things to get done if you don't talk to people who can help make the changes.
Frozen, you kind of started the toxicity. Regardless, I shant continue.
I never mentioned any 30 line document, what are you talking about? Also, I like how you should lead this community but it seems you want to keep ranting on this discussion, which I find it useless and pointless since it's just 1 more rank a player has throughout the long list including all the people with the rank. I don't even know why did I keep arguing about this, I mean, it's true that some people might compare this with the bias there is on some members of the staff but hey, that's none of my business, so, both of us including the rest of the people involved in this discussion should shut the fuck up and stop this once and for all.
Please don't throw the crap regarding the tourney on the staff team, let the officials/event team take care of it. I don't want them to have to take that. Thank you.
And also, you can just ask for any of the officials Skype if you have suggestions/complaints regarding the tournament, we'll put it into discussion. Thanks c:
Please don't throw the crap regarding the tourney on the staff team, let the officials/event team take care of it. I don't want them to have to take that. Thank you.
And also, you can just ask for any of the officials Skype if you have suggestions/complaints regarding the tournament, we'll put it into discussion. Thanks c:
Actually I though the tournament was pretty good for being the first one in two years. I was a bit apprehensive about it, but you guys managed to pull it off relatively well.
Actually I though the tournament was pretty good for being the first one in two years. I was a bit apprehensive about it, but you guys managed to pull it off relatively well.
Please don't throw the crap regarding the tourney on the staff team, let the officials/event team take care of it. I don't want them to have to take that. Thank you.
And also, you can just ask for any of the officials Skype if you have suggestions/complaints regarding the tournament, we'll put it into discussion. Thanks c:
Could I possibly talk to you about some tourney related questions on Skype?
I had to post this before it gets locked or removed
and I don’t intend to offend anyone.
Avicus have not and will never become successful if
you don’t admit to your flaws and at least try to accept and adapt to
constructive criticism. I’m sure I have said it before but how the hell do you
think you will get somewhere if you hide behind your excuses?
I also agree with AlienApplez and Juanoh. It has been
told so many times and we have complained with constructive criticism so many times
but yet nothing has been done about it.
How should we work with
you when you do not accept the fact that something is wrong?
(I will not
namedrop anyone but you will not get anywhere either by sending me threats
on skype because I post the truth, especially when you as staff members remove
my posts for no reason whatsoever.)
Server : Quite good even tho I don't play anymore. However, a bit of polish would be nice and could help greatly. And also, maybe a new gamemode could spice some things up. idk
Staff : Good. Could be much better however, but it works for what it does.
TS : Perfect. Need I say more?
Tourney : Give info about it (Player cap, times etc) All at once, not in short bursts like how it was done.
Rules : They do their job, but some are a little vague in what the punishments/meanings are.
I had to post this before it gets locked or removed
and I don’t intend to offend anyone.
Avicus have not and will never become successful if
you don’t admit to your flaws and at least try to accept and adapt to
constructive criticism. I’m sure I have said it before but how the hell do you
think you will get somewhere if you hide behind your excuses?
I also agree with AlienApplez and Juanoh. It has been
told so many times and we have complained with constructive criticism so many times
but yet nothing has been done about it.
How should we work with
you when you do not accept the fact that something is wrong?
(I will not
namedrop anyone but you will not get anywhere either by sending me threats
on skype because I post the truth, especially when you as staff members remove
my posts for no reason whatsoever.)
Good points, but some staff have realized it just not all. Also I would love to her some of your other opinions about this add me on Skype: @numberz_
Get at least 3 devs, make them interact way more with the community (pavilion did at 1 point but never after that), the admins/staff not listening to the community was the reason mcpvp died off.
Maps: Not necessarily a problem but I can see why some players decide to leave after their first time or so (bow spamming people off of the edge into the void isn't exactly a fun pvp experience).
Maybe be get a few more people uploading videos? I wouldn't mind doing this but the kind of people my channel would bring (granted only about 900 subs) would be too much for the staff and they'd probably be pretty toxic towards the rules.
Some staff are still terrible at their jobs. Imo an example of a good mod is zac (idk if he got demoted as I don't really care, he and Aerosmith were the ones that stuck out to me the most).
I had to post this before it gets locked or removed
and I don’t intend to offend anyone.
Avicus have not and will never become successful if
you don’t admit to your flaws and at least try to accept and adapt to
constructive criticism. I’m sure I have said it before but how the hell do you
think you will get somewhere if you hide behind your excuses?
I also agree with AlienApplez and Juanoh. It has been
told so many times and we have complained with constructive criticism so many times
but yet nothing has been done about it.
How should we work with
you when you do not accept the fact that something is wrong?
(I will not
namedrop anyone but you will not get anywhere either by sending me threats
on skype because I post the truth, especially when you as staff members remove
my posts for no reason whatsoever.)
90% of my posts are removed, locked or archived. Now you tell me WHY?
It doesn't appear that your recent posts have been archived so I don't understand where this frustration is coming from. Nonetheless, posts are archived and/or locked for a number of reasons depending on the situation. However, most of those reasons would generally be for a violation of the forum rules.
It doesn't appear that your recent posts have been archived so I don't understand where this frustration is coming from. Nonetheless, posts are archived and/or locked for a number of reasons depending on the situation. However, most of those reasons would generally be for a violation of the forum rules.
It doesn't appear that your recent posts have been archived so I don't understand where this frustration is coming from. Nonetheless, posts are archived and/or locked for a number of reasons depending on the situation. However, most of those reasons would generally be for a violation of the forum rules.
Yet again? I believe this is the first time you and I have talked about this.
On the forums, if you have posted anything that violates the rules that we have in place, they will be archived.
If you feel that your posts have been removed unjustfully, I suggest you contact a Senior Staff member by emailing support.
Of course, why would you claim most of my posts violate the forum rules when you "suddenly know nothing"about it?
I also find it so amusing how you trick people into contacting senior staff members when they can't help anybody, or maybe it's just me. Yes, I know who has a grudge against me and removes all my posts. :)
Of course, why would you claim most of my posts violate the forum rules when you "suddenly know nothing"about it?
I also find it so amusing how you trick people into contacting senior staff members when they can't help anybody, or maybe it's just me. Yes, I know who has a grudge against me and removes all my posts. :)
I never claimed that most of your posts were violating the rules. I simply stated that that could be a reason as to why they would be removed.
I "suddenly know nothing" because I have not been involved in the situations that lead up to your posts being removed. Therefore, I'm not the best person to discuss this with because I actually don't know the full story, because I wasn't there.
The Senior Staff are more active than ever (what with the new promotions and all) and help a lot of people. I suggest you contact them, even if you have preivously.
Of course, why would you claim most of my posts violate the forum rules when you "suddenly know nothing"about it?
I also find it so amusing how you trick people into contacting senior staff members when they can't help anybody, or maybe it's just me. Yes, I know who has a grudge against me and removes all my posts. :)
It's amusing how you "left" the server yet still patrol forums..
Thanks for all the feedback regarding the tournament and the staff team. If you'd like to contact me about any issues, feel free to do so. I'll get back to you as soon as possible.
Thanks for all the feedback regarding the tournament and the staff team. If you'd like to contact me about any issues, feel free to do so. I'll get back to you as soon as possible.
Could you not allow players to switch teams during the tournament? I know MLGtino switched from Allah to Bad Company after Allah was disqualified. It's unfair because then you get more chances to win.
Could you not allow players to switch teams during the tournament? I know MLGtino switched from Allah to Bad Company after Allah was disqualified. It's unfair because then you get more chances to win.
Could you not allow players to switch teams during the tournament? I know MLGtino switched from Allah to Bad Company after Allah was disqualified. It's unfair because then you get more chances to win.
I never claimed that most of your posts were violating the rules. I simply stated that that could be a reason as to why they would be removed.
I "suddenly know nothing" because I have not been involved in the situations that lead up to your posts being removed. Therefore, I'm not the best person to discuss this with because I actually don't know the full story, because I wasn't there.
The Senior Staff are more active than ever (what with the new promotions and all) and help a lot of people. I suggest you contact them, even if you have preivously.
Why would you remove yet another one of my posts in just a couple of hours?
Sorry I'm a bit late posting this, but here are some improvements that I think the staff team, including myself, could make.
First of all, lenience is important as a moderator. Though our "job" is to punish rule-breaking players, don't be biased with punishments and/or abuse the warn, kick, tempban, and ban commands. What's more, I don't think we're being nice enough to the community. The point of being a moderator is not to abuse power and be condescending towards all the other players. And we also can't be all about rules, rules, and more rules, moderators also need to be socially interactive with everyone on the server in order for them to view us as kind people. PraecanoVenen once quoted, "We are not police nor robots," so please don't act like you're a law enforcement official who is only focused on rules and nothing else.
Secondly and lastly, I'm tired of whenever a player not part of staff suggests a really good idea, but when I try to get it known to everyone else, it just goes in one ear and out the other. Guys! Get rid of this illusion that staff are the only ones that can come up with good ideas for the server! After looking on the forums, I can see some ideas suggested by non-staff members that I want to be incorporated, such as a new gamemode suggested by Thyphis and a new CTH kit suggested by goldenwalrus909. My point is just because a regular user gave us food for thought doesn't mean that it's worthless. In fact, that's not true in the slightest.
For right now, that's all I have to say on this matter. Thanks for reading! :D
Get at least 3 devs, make them interact way more with the community (pavilion did at 1 point but never after that), the admins/staff not listening to the community was the reason mcpvp died off.
Maps: Not necessarily a problem but I can see why some players decide to leave after their first time or so (bow spamming people off of the edge into the void isn't exactly a fun pvp experience).
Maybe be get a few more people uploading videos? I wouldn't mind doing this but the kind of people my channel would bring (granted only about 900 subs) would be too much for the staff and they'd probably be pretty toxic towards the rules.
Some staff are still terrible at their jobs. Imo an example of a good mod is zac (idk if he got demoted as I don't really care, he and Aerosmith were the ones that stuck out to me the most).
I definitely agree that we need more devs. 2 devs just isn't enough.
Get at least 3 devs, make them interact way more with the community (pavilion did at 1 point but never after that), the admins/staff not listening to the community was the reason mcpvp died off.
Maps: Not necessarily a problem but I can see why some players decide to leave after their first time or so (bow spamming people off of the edge into the void isn't exactly a fun pvp experience).
Maybe be get a few more people uploading videos? I wouldn't mind doing this but the kind of people my channel would bring (granted only about 900 subs) would be too much for the staff and they'd probably be pretty toxic towards the rules.
Some staff are still terrible at their jobs. Imo an example of a good mod is zac (idk if he got demoted as I don't really care, he and Aerosmith were the ones that stuck out to me the most).
Actually, I think you can really influence your audience to join Avicus, and maybe Avicus itself can revise It's rules again to make it less robotic, at the end of the day, it's just a game, it doesn't really need to be that strict. I'd be really interested to see your Avicus videos ;)
It annoys me how some staff are not listening to the community. If people are complaining like 4 months about lag why not fix it? We are not complaining because we are just trolling we complain so you know you need to fix the darn lag that kills the gameplay, I somewhat agree with aphelion that some of the staff keep hiding behind excuses and cannot take constructive criticism. Good examples for staff that take feedback in a great way and take that as feedback and a point they need to improve on: Polar_Express, zacd56, Tynvale. These are some examples. Also staff usually just copy Wong sentence in your post and fix it instead of taking the feedback seriously. 4 months of complaining IS WAYY more than enough to understand people leave and will leave if you won't listen to the community. And deal with it, not listening leading to people leaving and server dying. So please take this note seriously and start working on fixing it because you always say yeah we are fixing it and working on it but well,, 4 months and I see nothing fixed. I hope you take that as feedback and actually do something. Thanks.
It annoys me how some staff are not listening to the community. If people are complaining like 4 months about lag why not fix it? We are not complaining because we are just trolling we complain so you know you need to fix the darn lag that kills the gameplay, I somewhat agree with aphelion that some of the staff keep hiding behind excuses and cannot take constructive criticism. Good examples for staff that take feedback in a great way and take that as feedback and a point they need to improve on: Polar_Express, zacd56, Tynvale. These are some examples. Also staff usually just copy Wong sentence in your post and fix it instead of taking the feedback seriously. 4 months of complaining IS WAYY more than enough to understand people leave and will leave if you won't listen to the community. And deal with it, not listening leading to people leaving and server dying. So please take this note seriously and start working on fixing it because you always say yeah we are fixing it and working on it but well,, 4 months and I see nothing fixed. I hope you take that as feedback and actually do something. Thanks.
How do you know they haven't been working on the problem?
Moderators need be less biased (Don't gimme any ideas about human nature shit) So much favoritism given to certain players because they are "friends". It will destroy the server. Do a re-assigning day but in private, do not tell the other staff that you are doing this. Let it be a double-placebo effect.
Be Clear e.g Once, our Tournament would be in Slot 1 and then 30 minutes, its switched to Slot 2 ffs of some moderator being biased towards his friends
Remove Ping Wars (One Shot, One Kill) Its not fun with people that have 300ms ping ;-;
And official vote link with some sort of incentive (in order to get more people). Probably would reward with credits.
Removal of 1-hit kill maps. (Not necessarily removal of the map, just edit the items you spawn with)
Alert more people of the /report command. I mean in-your-face showing that command. Many people don't even know that command exists. I know that there are occasional alerts that let people know of the command, but I think something much more obvious is needed.
If they are, why isn't there a single result or output in 4 months?
Did you know that both of our developers are in they Senior year of year? They have exams, colleges they are looking into, prom, and other activities. Now it's summer to which pav (Spencer) has been focusing on his JR.Mod trial and now he is on vacation. Now Kylo is busying with IRL things such as his job and soccer. The lag isn't as easy to fix as you think. Also did you know that we are getting a new server host?
Another thing I would like to add is that there going to be some results just wait :)
It annoys me how some staff are not listening to the community. If people are complaining like 4 months about lag why not fix it? We are not complaining because we are just trolling we complain so you know you need to fix the darn lag that kills the gameplay, I somewhat agree with aphelion that some of the staff keep hiding behind excuses and cannot take constructive criticism. Good examples for staff that take feedback in a great way and take that as feedback and a point they need to improve on: Polar_Express, zacd56, Tynvale. These are some examples. Also staff usually just copy Wong sentence in your post and fix it instead of taking the feedback seriously. 4 months of complaining IS WAYY more than enough to understand people leave and will leave if you won't listen to the community. And deal with it, not listening leading to people leaving and server dying. So please take this note seriously and start working on fixing it because you always say yeah we are fixing it and working on it but well,, 4 months and I see nothing fixed. I hope you take that as feedback and actually do something. Thanks.
Honestly, if you have a complaint about a staff member, tell an admin, you're only part of the problem if you don't go tell a senior staff member, they WILL do something about it, trust me, I've been there before.
-Staff needs to be more polite torwards Users. When I was playing Walls there was this person who was using bad language. We asked the person to stop and they kept going on cursing. We reported that person and we were tired of it. I then did a /stafflist and found a mod. (I'm not going to say WHO it is because that rude) anyways, I said' "Hey, can you please come to Walls, we have a person using bad language." You know what they say..... "No don't ask and use /report, Bye." No lie that's what they told me.... And I msg'ed them telling them we did use /report and they kept using bad language. But they never responded and they were still online.... I think you guys should say, "Hey I'm busy I'll try to get another mod or Hey I'm busy if there is no other mod on or say I'm watching a hacker," or something. Don't get me wrong, Some of the mods are polite but some of them aren't. You guys should maybe work on that. Also The block lag. You guys have got to fix that!
-Staff needs to be more polite torwards Users. When I was playing Walls there was this person who was using bad language. We asked the person to stop and they kept going on cursing. We reported that person and we were tired of it. I then did a /stafflist and found a mod. (I'm not going to say WHO it is because that rude) anyways, I said' "Hey, can you please come to Walls, we have a person using bad language." You know what they say..... "No don't ask and use /report, Bye." No lie that's what they told me.... And I msg'ed them telling them we did use /report and they kept using bad language. But they never responded and they were still online.... I think you guys should say, "Hey I'm busy I'll try to get another mod or Hey I'm busy if there is no other mod on or say I'm watching a hacker," or something. Don't get me wrong, Some of the mods are polite but some of them aren't. You guys should maybe work on that. Also The block lag. You guys have got to fix that!
Not really sure why that mod responded that way, but most mods actually do listen when people use /msg.
Anyways, if you feel a staff member is being rude or doing their job incorrectly in anyway, feel free to contact Dutchis or Newcleus VIA Skype. :)
How do you know they haven't been working on the problem?
Thats the whole point to people saying map dev don't really tell the public what they're doing.
That said, as your disputing your opinions remember this is all a great because everyone gets to give their feelings toward the server without feeling worried they'll be archived. Remember to look at the other point of view so you understand the other's reasoning. I think the staff is great, I feel more comfortable with them these days but it could be better. Like what others are saying try to familiarize yourself with everyone in Avicus. I'm talking about the new guy who covers up the monument thinking its a good strategy. I think its a problem as a whole in Avicus where its hard to get in the community because everyones so close knit. @Murph_the_cat does a great job in walls getting to know everyone and I think it makes the community and staff feel more close. I'm sure staff get annoyed when as there playing there only spammed with questions. Remember that's a part of the job but we as a community need to treat them as players and not constantly bother them. I suggest having more information, maybe a weekly check in to get people on the know to whats going on. The Map Team has improved tremendously and I never saw the last tournament but it seems there is already plans to get it fixed. On the plans of new game modes keep the community in check of any plans, even if your interested of any, want some advice of new ones, or if you there is actual plans in the future. And not to forget, accept feedbacks! I know it might be hard to bite your tongue but remember 99% of the time they just also want Avicus to get better.
Get at least 3 devs, make them interact way more with the community (pavilion did at 1 point but never after that), the admins/staff not listening to the community was the reason mcpvp died off.
Maps: Not necessarily a problem but I can see why some players decide to leave after their first time or so (bow spamming people off of the edge into the void isn't exactly a fun pvp experience).
Maybe be get a few more people uploading videos? I wouldn't mind doing this but the kind of people my channel would bring (granted only about 900 subs) would be too much for the staff and they'd probably be pretty toxic towards the rules.
Some staff are still terrible at their jobs. Imo an example of a good mod is zac (idk if he got demoted as I don't really care, he and Aerosmith were the ones that stuck out to me the most).
I believe the first step is to fix our current relationship with the community. There is a lot of tension between both staff and players... maybe that's an area we can all focus on.
I believe the first step is to fix our current relationship with the community. There is a lot of tension between both staff and players... maybe that's an area we can all focus on.
Did you know that both of our developers are in they Senior year of year? They have exams, colleges they are looking into, prom, and other activities. Now it's summer to which pav (Spencer) has been focusing on his JR.Mod trial and now he is on vacation. Now Kylo is busying with IRL things such as his job and soccer. The lag isn't as easy to fix as you think. Also did you know that we are getting a new server host?
Another thing I would like to add is that there going to be some results just wait :)
Nobody has prom or exams in July, especially not after they've already graduated high school.
Maybe we could have polls that the staff team put on and we could give input there?
I can't see how a poll would make a difference when they never accept and adapt to our criticism. I bet you I can talk to a wall and get better respons than I've ever got from staff.
The community-staff meeting concept seems like it'd be a good idea, but I see one problem: Due to the rising tension between the two of us, I think some people would really only want to rage at us instead of calmly talking over the problem.
The community-staff meeting concept seems like it'd be a good idea, but I see one problem: Due to the rising tension between the two of us, I think some people would really only want to rage at us instead of calmly talking over the problem.
I wonder how hard it'll be to organised a staff-community meeting. Getting 50+ people in one chat room to be quiet and start being serious would take quite a while...
I wonder how hard it'll be to organised a staff-community meeting. Getting 50+ people in one chat room to be quiet and start being serious would take quite a while...
Mute everyone, and then let them speak one by one.
I wonder how hard it'll be to organised a staff-community meeting. Getting 50+ people in one chat room to be quiet and start being serious would take quite a while...
I would expect yourstaff to show an adultbehavior,considering thatyou are allover 15?Youdon't weardiapersanymore, prove it.
I wonder how hard it'll be to organised a staff-community meeting. Getting 50+ people in one chat room to be quiet and start being serious would take quite a while...
Mute everyone, give Administrators priority speaker.
I would expect yourstaff to show an adultbehavior,considering thatyou are allover 15?Youdon't weardiapersanymore, prove it.
Actually, not every staff member is over the age of 15 :P Also, why is it that the moderators can't be quiet :C They know how to conduct themselves in a meeting, it's more the combination of both moderators and community members that will create chaos. The meeting would be like 100 people. Please don't be so disrespectful.
Actually, not every staff member is over the age of 15 :P Also, why is it that the moderators can't be quiet :C They know how to conduct themselves in a meeting, it's more the combination of both moderators and community members that will create chaos. The meeting would be like 100 people. Please don't be so disrespectful.
I bet you they know how to act, especially when racial slurs occurs in your staff chat. I wouldn't say it gives you or Avicus a good reputation when you as a staff member who promote Avicus act like that.
How am I being disrespectful? I'm telling you what I expect from someone who is over 15 and hopefully raised properly.
I bet you they know how to act, especially when racial slurs occurs in your staff chat. I wouldn't say it gives you or Avicus a good reputation when you as a staff member who promote Avicus act like that.
How am I being disrespectful? I'm telling you what I expect from someone who is over 15 and hopefully raised properly.
Oh god, shut up. Have some proof for that? Why are you even here, if you "left" the server.
Oh god, shut up. Have some proof for that? Why are you even here, if you "left" the server.
https://avicus.net/forums/2a7757a41 "For those who do not know why I was demoted, I'll come clean. I was demoted for Immaturity, bias, racism, sexism, and favoritism."
Yes, I have plenty of proof :)
Why can't I be active on the forums even if I'm not playing on the server anymore?
Ok first, the infraction system is pretty shit. People shouldn't have more than 6 valid infractions before they are banned forvever. Secondly, how people get mod is pretty stupid. Requirements to be a mod: Either be a regular or a tryhard. It doesn't matter if you have been previously banned for hacking, the community hates you, you ban evade regularly or you are a straight up wanker. You've got mod anyway.
Ok first, the infraction system is pretty shit. People shouldn't have more than 6 valid infractions before they are banned forvever. Secondly, how people get mod is pretty stupid. Requirements to be a mod: Either be a regular or a tryhard. It doesn't matter if you have been previously banned for hacking, the community hates you, you ban evade regularly or you are a straight up wanker. You've got mod anyway.
https://avicus.net/forums/2a7757a41 "For those who do not know why I was demoted, I'll come clean. I was demoted for Immaturity, bias, racism, sexism, and favoritism."
Yes, I have plenty of proof :)
Why can't I be active on the forums even if I'm not playing on the server anymore?
Basically youre butthurt you got demoted, but like the server too much to leave..
I bet you they know how to act, especially when racial slurs occurs in your staff chat. I wouldn't say it gives you or Avicus a good reputation when you as a staff member who promote Avicus act like that.
How am I being disrespectful? I'm telling you what I expect from someone who is over 15 and hopefully raised properly.
Now your crossing the line. I have to admit, you ARE right, but please just try to say it in a more...respectful manor? I know they aren't doing their jobs right, but you have to realize that they are TRYING to cooperate, and you are obviously not helping. I made the same mistake when I made my 1.8 hate post.
Next week, during the weekend, the head map developers will host a meeting for the map development team. In hopes to start improving our results and your satisfaction, I ask you this; What do you want us to discuss at the map developer meeting?
Don't ask to bring a particular map back, instead, suggest improvements to the system, gameplay and/or the interactivity between mapdevs and community players. Thanks :)
Next week, during the weekend, the head map developers will host a meeting for the map development team. In hopes to start improving our results and your satisfaction, I ask you this; What do you want us to discuss at the map developer meeting?
Don't ask to bring a particular map back, instead, suggest improvements to the system, gameplay and/or the interactivity between mapdevs and community players. Thanks :)
Maybe let the community decide which should be kept and which should be not, unless that's already done
I bet you they know how to act, especially when racial slurs occurs in your staff chat. I wouldn't say it gives you or Avicus a good reputation when you as a staff member who promote Avicus act like that.
How am I being disrespectful? I'm telling you what I expect from someone who is over 15 and hopefully raised properly.
racial slurs occurs in your staff chat This is incorrect. Don't try and pretend like you know what you're saying.
Next week, during the weekend, the head map developers will host a meeting for the map development team. In hopes to start improving our results and your satisfaction, I ask you this; What do you want us to discuss at the map developer meeting?
Don't ask to bring a particular map back, instead, suggest improvements to the system, gameplay and/or the interactivity between mapdevs and community players. Thanks :)
Map testing event. There was a post about trello- it never got used. Then the map testing google sheet- only Steven and zintenka use it. Some map devs need to help the community and players more. I'll and more if i can think of any.
Ok first, the infraction system is pretty shit. People shouldn't have more than 6 valid infractions before they are banned forvever. Secondly, how people get mod is pretty stupid. Requirements to be a mod: Either be a regular or a tryhard. It doesn't matter if you have been previously banned for hacking, the community hates you, you ban evade regularly or you are a straight up wanker. You've got mod anyway.
If we have it that way, Avicus is going to be smaller than it already is. People wouldn't be able to get a chance to learn from their mistakes.
May I remind everyone that another reason the people on the server torn apart is because you guys cannot seem to calm down and stop arguing. You guys are only exacerbating this problem by hating on each other so much, so just stop it.
May I remind everyone that another reason the people on the server torn apart is because you guys cannot seem to calm down and stop arguing. You guys are only exacerbating this problem by hating on each other so much, so just stop it.
racial slurs occurs in your staff chat This is incorrect. Don't try and pretend like you know what you're saying.
No point in denying it, I'm slightly guilty to this, mostly out of fun rather than with the pure intention of offending another race of people (which I have nothing against).
No point in denying it, I'm slightly guilty to this, mostly out of fun rather than with the pure intention of offending another race of people (which I have nothing against).
Yes, of course — I don't think anyone on the staff team (or any respectable person in the community) is decadent enough to be legitimately racist like that... at least, I'd hope not. Still, especially when regular players see those messages out of context, it gives them a poor impression of what "really" happens between moderators. Even I felt a negative vibe from the staff chat when I was a junior moderator, because it seemed like no one took their role seriously, and that everything was one big joke.
Yes, of course — I don't think anyone on the staff team (or any respectable person in the community) is decadent enough to be legitimately racist like that... at least, I'd hope not. Still, especially when regular players see those messages out of context, it gives them a poor impression of what "really" happens between moderators. Even I felt a negative vibe from the staff chat when I was a junior moderator, because it seemed like no one took their role seriously, and that everything was one big joke.
I think it was mainly sarcasm, but I can see what you're getting at, as I sorta felt that way at times, too.
Next week, during the weekend, the head map developers will host a meeting for the map development team. In hopes to start improving our results and your satisfaction, I ask you this; What do you want us to discuss at the map developer meeting?
Don't ask to bring a particular map back, instead, suggest improvements to the system, gameplay and/or the interactivity between mapdevs and community players. Thanks :)
2 things
the stale gameplay:No maps are really stand out besides a few, they have the same type of gameplay and it gets boring
looking too much into aesthetics: A few do this at the map dev level where a map apparently will be boring and stale if it doesn't look extremely good. I am not saying add maps that look very bad or anything just remember the sexiest maps for gamers are the ones that have amazing gameplay. Also make sure the aesthetics don't overtake the gameplay aspect
May I remind everyone that another reason the people on the server torn apart is because you guys cannot seem to calm down and stop arguing. You guys are only exacerbating this problem by hating on each other so much, so just stop it.
Can we stop playing this stupid game of whose fault it is. There is something wrong if people are upset. We need a plan to solve it and as moderators you guys are leaders. We need to work together, not pointing the finger at random people
racial slurs occurs in your staff chat This is incorrect. Don't try and pretend like you know what you're saying.
We will never get anywhere if you still hide behind excuses, as PieZ said, something is wrong and we need to solve it. It will never be solved with a behavior like yours, when even your staff agrees the slurs exists and when former staff gets negative vibes from your chat.
Can we stop playing this stupid game of whose fault it is. There is something wrong if people are upset. We need a plan to solve it and as moderators you guys are leaders. We need to work together, not pointing the finger at random people
I was never trying to pin the blame on anybody, since I guess we're all contributing to the problem equally. If both the community and staff put their heads together, I believe we can achieve a whole lot.
We will never get anywhere if you still hide behind excuses, as PieZ said, something is wrong and we need to solve it. It will never be solved with a behavior like yours, when even your staff agrees the slurs exists and when former staff gets negative vibes from your chat.
You know, I made a great suggestion if anyone bothered to read that the staff should make a weekly newsletter on any plans, concerns, or update on all Avicus. I also suggested mods go out of their way to meet new players to make people feel comfortable. And I also suggested that the community would not constantly ask questions or bother mods while they are playing.
Honestly the staff chat, I am gonna say was a COMPLETE clusterfuck occasionally with no rules being implemented. It's fine to fuck around and have all the banter but when people were actually talking about important stuff (eg: jrs were requesting a temp ban or a mod to look at a potential hacker) sometimes the chat would be filled with pointless jokes that would prattle on for a fucking eternity. It's FINE to joke around, but there is a time and place for that. As for the racism issue, I have seen it go on, however it's a very small minority and like Tino said it's not a big deal and it's with the purpose of humor and not actual genuine racism (I'm not justifying it, just mentioning it)
Honestly the staff chat, I am gonna say was a COMPLETE clusterfuck occasionally with no rules being implemented. It's fine to fuck around and have all the banter but when people were actually talking about important stuff (eg: jrs were requesting a temp ban or a mod to look at a potential hacker) sometimes the chat would be filled with pointless jokes that would prattle on for a fucking eternity. It's FINE to joke around, but there is a time and place for that. As for the racism issue, I have seen it go on, however it's a very small minority and like Tino said it's not a big deal and it's with the purpose of humor and not actual genuine racism (I'm not justifying it, just mentioning it)
Since you were staff, the in-game staff chat rules have been cracked down on.
Its good banter. We (Sr. Staff) took in the suggestions, now its banter.
"now its banter".
There is no end to discussions until something is done. Therefore it hasn't ended. The senior staff are role models. This type of behaviour is a prime example to why, the staff, are occasionally immature both privately and publicly =)
There is no end to discussions until something is done. Therefore it hasn't ended. The senior staff are role models. This type of behaviour is a prime example to why, the staff, are occasionally immature both privately and publicly =)
I second this point. Countless times I've seen senior staff being immature on TS, the forums, or even in-game. I thought one of the requirements of being a moderator, even, was to be mature.
Its good banter. We (Sr. Staff) took in the suggestions, now its banter.
Mate, I haven't seen anything done since the creation of this thread. Someone should at least make a post pointing out what they will fix and how they will go about it. Staff, especially Sr Staff, should know the line between pointless posts and something constructive.
Yes, you're high up in the staff ranks, but you don't call the shots on serious threads. "Now it's banter" implies your done with the thread and have completely missed its purpose. I'm sure 99 didn't want a banter post.
Its good banter. We (Sr. Staff) took in the suggestions, now its banter.
"Its good banter. We (Sr. Staff) took in the suggestions, now its banter."
Instead of you and Peachy making dumb comments on this topic maybe you two can actually try fixing something? I don't know about anyone else but I've sent him multiple reasons about how the senior staff team needs fixing and I have yet to see anything done. If you took in the suggestions, care to tell which ones you used?
The negatives are being focused on far much more than the positives here...
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, weren't there were complaints about the staff being too robotic just a few weeks ago? Now there are complaints about the complete opposite. This is just like the 1.8 and 1.7 compatibility issue again. ._. 1.7 was given, but the complaints continued.
Although the current issue being discussed isn't minor, I'm just going to throw it out there that we can't do everything to every individual's liking. We can get close to it and improve, but we can't always 'ace things perfectly.' The minor things may just have to sometimes be put up with, believe it or not. Just imagine it's like you're receiving a new car that you've been dying to have, but it's not the brand/colour you dreamed of.
Mate, I haven't seen anything done since the creation of this thread. Someone should at least make a post pointing out what they will fix and how they will go about it. Staff, especially Sr Staff, should know the line between pointless posts and something constructive.
Yes, you're high up in the staff ranks, but you don't call the shots on serious threads. "Now it's banter" implies your done with the thread and have completely missed its purpose. I'm sure 99 didn't want a banter post.
And you wonder why the community gets frustrated.
Are you serious?? I've made a serious of ideas if anyone would pay attention and stop arguing
1. Staff make weekly newsletters on plans, concerns, or updates on all things Avicus.
2. The Staff goes out of their way to meet new players or those who they never met so people feel comfortable around them.
3. The community should avoid bothering staff while there playing a game, you should treat them like a normal player.
Are you serious?? I've made a serious of ideas if anyone would pay attention and stop arguing
1. Staff make weekly newsletters on plans, concerns, or updates on all things Avicus.
2. The Staff goes out of their way to meet new players or those who they never met so people feel comfortable around them.
3. The community should avoid bothering staff while there playing a game, you should treat them like a normal player.
1. Staff make weekly newsletters on plans, concerns, or updates on all things Avicus. - You mean like a weekly post updating the community on what's going to happen/what has? I'm pretty sure Jake was doing something like this when he was admin but it never continued after he retired.
2. The Staff goes out of their way to meet new players or those who they never met so people feel comfortable around them. - Yes this would be very good, but the only problem I know from my past experience as a staff member you can't say hello to someone while watching a hacker.
3. The community should avoid bothering staff while there playing a game, you should treat them like a normal player.- We should but at the same time they are the ones who applied for staff, when you have some that constantly play games instead of doing reports those are the ones that should be demoted.
The negatives are being focused on far much more than the positives here...
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, weren't there were complaints about the staff being too robotic just a few weeks ago? Now there are complaints about the complete opposite. This is just like the 1.8 and 1.7 compatibility issue again. ._. 1.7 was given, but the complaints continued.
Although the current issue being discussed isn't minor, I'm just going to throw it out there that we can't do everything to every individual's liking. We can get close to it and improve, but we can't always 'ace things perfectly.' The minor things may just have to sometimes be put up with, believe it or not. Just imagine it's like you're receiving a new car that you've been dying to have, but it's not the brand/colour you dreamed of.
There is a middle, it is called being a good leader and sadly not all staff members are good leaders. I am not blaming the staff but there has to be something wrong with the training and/or the interviews of not all staff are leaders
1. Staff make weekly newsletters on plans, concerns, or updates on all things Avicus. - You mean like a weekly post updating the community on what's going to happen/what has? I'm pretty sure Jake was doing something like this when he was admin but it never continued after he retired.
2. The Staff goes out of their way to meet new players or those who they never met so people feel comfortable around them. - Yes this would be very good, but the only problem I know from my past experience as a staff member you can't say hello to someone while watching a hacker.
3. The community should avoid bothering staff while there playing a game, you should treat them like a normal player.- We should but at the same time they are the ones who applied for staff, when you have some that constantly play games instead of doing reports those are the ones that should be demoted.
The answer to all of this is be balance with your actions don't overdue something. That could be an answer to all life problems.
Never did I say this thread was not serious, I said the way certain staff are treating it makes it as if it is not serious.
I mean "are you serious, i made two post already on constructive ideas but I guess many didn't read my ideas to help Avicus". Instead you guys are arguing when you all have the same goal - make Avicus better.
Also, I find sometimes since I'm a non donor, non teamspeak person that people don't really listen to my opinions or my suggestions, and if a staff or well known person suggested the same thing, it would have more of a chance of getting implemented than my original one.
I mean "are you serious, i made two post already on constructive ideas but I guess many didn't read my ideas to help Avicus". Instead you guys are arguing when you all have the same goal - make Avicus better.
Of course we do, but it'd help if we knew what was happening.
Staff and community lack alot of communication. In TS, more often than not you have staff chilling in the staff lounge and not bothering to connect with the players. I was guilty of this when I was staff, but I tried to fix it.
Staff, how do you think we can improve communication between the community and yourselves?
Also, I find sometimes since I'm a non donor, non teamspeak person that people don't really listen to my opinions or my suggestions, and if a staff or well known person suggested the same thing, it would have more of a chance of getting implemented than my original one.
Honestly, you won't find many servers which actually take this into account, unfortunate as it is.
Also, I find sometimes since I'm a non donor, non teamspeak person that people don't really listen to my opinions or my suggestions, and if a staff or well known person suggested the same thing, it would have more of a chance of getting implemented than my original one.
Also, I find sometimes since I'm a non donor, non teamspeak person that people don't really listen to my opinions or my suggestions, and if a staff or well known person suggested the same thing, it would have more of a chance of getting implemented than my original one.
Staff Reassessment days are a pain. Are they worth it? I can't say.
But after the reassessment days, I hear people complaining X mod was demoted/not demoted because of bias.
Also, I find sometimes since I'm a non donor, non teamspeak person that people don't really listen to my opinions or my suggestions, and if a staff or well known person suggested the same thing, it would have more of a chance of getting implemented than my original one.
I personally don't think a moderator reassessment is needed, but a reassessment of the senior staff is needed. If you want to get rid of lazy mods and bias ones you need to get rid of the people promoting them.
I am going to think this post is a joke because I said this all comes with balance.
1. The point would be you would get updates on things so they can answer questions anyone has and to keep the community connected with the staff so its not so separated
2. I'm not sure what you mean by that statement.
3.Of course you should tell a mod theres someone hacking, but if your in a match and saying. "Hey, whens staff applications? Has anyone planned any new game modes? Whats going on with SG?" I know they signed up for it but be considerate of other people.
I'm sure your not trying to come off cynical but dismissing any ideas someone has might be a reason there is progression with the staff/community relationship. I can't see why anyone would dislike the idea of meeting new Avicus players, have a balance of asking mods but don't come off annoying, and updating people on Avicus.
Of course we do, but it'd help if we knew what was happening.
Staff and community lack alot of communication. In TS, more often than not you have staff chilling in the staff lounge and not bothering to connect with the players. I was guilty of this when I was staff, but I tried to fix it.
Staff, how do you think we can improve communication between the community and yourselves?
I would like to point out that most of the senior staff and a few of the moderators are in their own private circle. I suggest to be more approachable and to talk to people regardless of status.
Of course we do, but it'd help if we knew what was happening.
Staff and community lack alot of communication. In TS, more often than not you have staff chilling in the staff lounge and not bothering to connect with the players. I was guilty of this when I was staff, but I tried to fix it.
Staff, how do you think we can improve communication between the community and yourselves?
I understand that sometimes the staff sit up in the moderator lounges, however sometimes it is due to them being afk. (It could still be worked on a little bit though)
Personally I'd like to see a community + staff meeting. That way, both sides could talk to each other directly.
I would like to point out that most of the senior staff and a few of the moderators are in their own private circle. I suggest to be more approachable and to talk to people regardless of status.
You mean the Teamspeak camping? That's kind of a problem.
I understand that sometimes the staff sit up in the moderator lounges, however sometimes it is due to them being afk. (It could still be worked on a little bit though)
Personally I'd like to see a community + staff meeting. That way, both sides could talk to each other directly.
I don't know. I don't really use either of them to be honest. The moderator lounge usually seems unnecessary and when I'm afk....well my computer is most likely off.
Can a senior staff member give an update of what will be done? I haven't seen anything good happen yet... Other then switching hosts.
We are developing a ton of new plugins/game-modes, we are going to be adding a bunch of new things both in-game and in the shop. All of these shall be detailed in a weekly post that I need to get the go ahead to make. We have also started hosting UHC"s to boost the communities overall communication with each other. "Hype?" This is just a bit of what we have done :)
We are developing a ton of new plugins/game-modes, we are going to be adding a bunch of new things both in-game and in the shop. All of these shall be detailed in a weekly post that I need to get the go ahead to make. We have also started hosting UHC"s to boost the communities overall communication with each other. "Hype?" This is just a bit of what we have done :)
We are developing a ton of new plugins/game-modes, we are going to be adding a bunch of new things both in-game and in the shop. All of these shall be detailed in a weekly post that I need to get the go ahead to make. We have also started hosting UHC"s to boost the communities overall communication with each other. "Hype?" This is just a bit of what we have done :)
UHC's aren't done by Senior Staff, we have a team of Officials to take care of that ;)
We are developing a ton of new plugins/game-modes, we are going to be adding a bunch of new things both in-game and in the shop. All of these shall be detailed in a weekly post that I need to get the go ahead to make. We have also started hosting UHC"s to boost the communities overall communication with each other. "Hype?" This is just a bit of what we have done :)
We are developing a ton of new plugins/game-modes, we are going to be adding a bunch of new things both in-game and in the shop. All of these shall be detailed in a weekly post that I need to get the go ahead to make. We have also started hosting UHC"s to boost the communities overall communication with each other. "Hype?" This is just a bit of what we have done :)
possible it was probably just a strange moment I guess
Then again 5/11 are staff
That just means that there aren't enough regulars on the forums. The proportions are messed up since people just come on to play rather than integrating with the community.
That just means that there aren't enough regulars on the forums. The proportions are messed up since people just come on to play rather than integrating with the community.
I'm just going to re bump this. So that the discussion regarding the rules, staff, ts and future tourneys can continue.
My opinions: Tourney's CTW: I think that the next tourney or the one after it should be Capture The Wool. Since this gamemode couldn't be used in the Omega Championship for being too new. It would also bring a lot more teams/players from other objective servers like ocn.
Walls: I don't care when this is but it needs to happen, its not the second most played gamemode for nothing.
Staff: Make a lot of changes, full reassessment. Way too many inactive mods, biased/rude senior mods change is needed badly.
Rules: More things need to be added to the official rules set like banning for ddos threats. Also a stricker guidelines when it comes to inappropriate names, I see way too many players getting banned for non offensives/questionable names.
TeamsSpeak: For the love of good remove some of the unneeded rooms. Those could also apply as staff feedback, but rudeness on TS I hear a lot of staff members making inappropriate jokes to other players.
Yeah, uh I was going to say like others said previously, there is way too many Senior Moderators.
Yeqh, agreed. Maybe not too many staff, but there are like only double as much mods as sr mods. Unless you count admins. Then it's 14 Sr staff and 26 mods :-:
Although it may seem like there're a lot of staff members in total? How many are online when you play in-game? It's not like there're 30 staff members on every time you're playing.
Although it may seem like there're a lot of staff members in total? How many are online when you play in-game? It's not like there're 30 staff members on every time you're playing.
We said too many sr staff not too many staff. I think that we have a good amount of staff, just too many seniors.
Found a video that basically sums up Avicus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZpvrtLoFak Replace the king with Peachy and the tides of darkness the shit that may happen to Avicus.
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