I have a theory. by Burningtaco_224 April 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
From my experience on the server I have theorized that those who purchase ranks get better treatment than those who don't such as a person who doesn't have a rank says fuck- the mods tells them to stop and person with gold or higher says fuck- no one caresSnowSX3 April 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
You're theory is incorrect.No player is above the rules and no-one gets special treatment.
This includes everyone, regulars, donators and staff members.
We're all on the same playing field when it comes to the rules.
Burningtaco_224 April 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
well its just a THEORY i formed from experience and observationIron April 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
If a mod does perform like this (bias) just report it too a Sr. Mod or above. Also are you sure that a mod was in the game?Burningtaco_224 April 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
yes just about every game ive been in has had a mod in it after i enter it im a moderator magnet its kinda like glados morality core if you will the mods tried to keep me in line and the morality core tried to keep glados in line but both failedIron April 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
Ok portal references aside, just remember too report these things... It is actually very helpful for the seniors!Robin_DD_J April 18, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
NaaaLegoche April 18, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
They don't, because most people with donor ranks don't mess around and try not to get infractionsSnowSX3 April 18, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
They don't, because most people with donor ranks don't mess around and try not to get infractions
Notalgicular April 18, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
Well saying fuck isn't against the rules so they are probably speaking personally that they don't want people saying fuck, not on behalf of moderators. They aren't saying that its not allowed.kycrafft April 18, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
No, donators do not get special treatment.Goodnighht April 18, 2015 at 2:04 PM UTC
Well saying fuck isn't against the rules so they are probably speaking personally that they don't want people saying fuck, not on behalf of moderators. They aren't saying that its not allowed.
Yes it is, read the rules " Inappropriate or aggressive language, regardless if it is directed at someone or not, will not be tolerated."
BmB April 18, 2015 at 2:04 PM UTC
Yes it is, read the rules " Inappropriate or aggressive language, regardless if it is directed at someone or not, will not be tolerated."
Notalgicular April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
Yes it is, read the rules " Inappropriate or aggressive language, regardless if it is directed at someone or not, will not be tolerated."
It used to be your allowed to swear but not excessively
ProfessorUtonium April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
Well thats utter bullshit.
It used to be your allowed to swear but not excessively
Notalgicular April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
Why would you even need to swear in chat? Are you just angry and you want to say "f***" for no reason?
If you don't like swearing the internet is not the place for you
scolton April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
There's no point for swearing in Minecraft. It's inflammatory and unnecessary.Zedther April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
I'm on Notal's side here, the staff team has constantly told people (and me) that swearing is perfectly fine, as long as it's not excessive or directed towards someone, most of the time saying "fuck" in chat lands you in no trouble whatsoever (past experience)In regards to the OP, you see regulars with ranks being punished all the time, it's really not a rare sight, it really depends on the staff member you're in game with, some of them don't appreciate the use of the word "fuck" but wont warn for it.
ProfessorUtonium April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
I'm on Notal's side here, the staff team has constantly told people (and me) that swearing is perfectly fine, as long as it's not excessive or directed towards someone, most of the time saying "fuck" in chat lands you in no trouble whatsoever (past experience)
In regards to the OP, you see regulars with ranks being punished all the time, it's really not a rare sight, it really depends on the staff member you're in game with, some of them don't appreciate the use of the word "fuck" but wont warn for it.
Sevoo April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
If your talking about infractions its wrong, just look at my infractions page for proof :Pscolton April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
I'm on Notal's side here, the staff team has constantly told people (and me) that swearing is perfectly fine, as long as it's not excessive or directed towards someone, most of the time saying "fuck" in chat lands you in no trouble whatsoever (past experience)
In regards to the OP, you see regulars with ranks being punished all the time, it's really not a rare sight, it really depends on the staff member you're in game with, some of them don't appreciate the use of the word "fuck" but wont warn for it.
This hasn't always been the rule, but it now is.
Goodnighht April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
Rules change. The new rule is that you are not allowed to swear.
This hasn't always been the rule, but it now is.
Very true, also btw that hair is amazing :P
EDIT: I might have only commented to talk about your hair.... MAYBE
scolton April 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
Very true, also btw that hair is amazing :P
EDIT: I might have only commented to talk about your hair.... MAYBE
You should have seen it yesterday when someone put intense amounts of hairspray in it for the play
Zedther April 18, 2015 at 4:04 PM UTC
but why would you need to say "fuck" in chat? There is no reason to use it in chat.
scolton April 18, 2015 at 4:04 PM UTC
Quite the opposite, swearing is a stress reliever, and most people will use it on impulse.
Aerosmith April 20, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
I think you just need to get to know the staff better. Everyone is really nice, and mods always seem to have time to assist all players as of what I've seen. I'm saying this as a normal user, no donator rank.toketrain April 20, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
ok imo there is some truth to the original theory, but (and this doesn't make it any better) it's subconscious. whether you like it or not, you have many biases. everyone does. it's just a fact. they exist and to deny that they do is silly.unfortunately, we can't conduct a controlled test to prove these biases, but they are most likely there in some staff and you can't prove that you would punish a diamond donor as strictly as you punished a normal user for the same exact thing.
the best thing to do is recognize that these biases may exist. not just for a positive donator bias in staff members on a minecraft server, but in life. you recognize that you may be prejudiced, or have certain stereotypes. every privileged person, whether they want to or not, probably bases things off of stereotypes towards a less privileged group. and what you have to do is recognize this and fight it. denying it only further contributes to these kinds of problems
Iron April 20, 2015 at 5:04 AM UTC
Too clear things up, you can swear like this "F***" but if you do it excessively you will get either a kick or warn. However if you say things like "F*** you Ironsoldier" you would get a kick. Also saying things like "MotherF******B****,S***head" You will probably get kicked.Hope that cleared stuff up!
Hacktivism April 20, 2015 at 5:04 AM UTC
Too clear things up, you can swear like this "F***" but if you do it excessively you will get either a kick or warn. However if you say things like "F*** you Ironsoldier" you would get a kick. Also saying things like "MotherF******B****,S***head" You will probably get kicked.
Hope that cleared stuff up!
Notalgicular April 20, 2015 at 6:04 AM UTC
No, all it did was make things more confusing, as over the past two days I was told by various staff members that swearing, in any form, is no longer allowed.
FrozenSolstice April 20, 2015 at 8:04 AM UTC
Sadly, I agree.From my experience as a Moderator, I have seen donors favored over regular players. I won't name names, however. You know who you are.
FrozenSolstice April 20, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
Too clear things up, you can swear like this "F***" but if you do it excessively you will get either a kick or warn. However if you say things like "F*** you Ironsoldier" you would get a kick. Also saying things like "MotherF******B****,S***head" You will probably get kicked.
Hope that cleared stuff up!
FrozenSolstice April 20, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
Swearing is allowed as long as it's not directed or excessive.
If it's directed or excessive, it will result in a punishment.
That's been the rule on swearing for a while it's what's in place now and it's what was in place when you were a staff member.
Petlas April 20, 2015 at 9:04 AM UTC
If this theory was correct, Avicus would've crumbled into anarchy ages ago.Aphelion April 20, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
You would be surprised if you knew what happens "behind the scene". ;)Atdit April 20, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
I agree 50% with you.+0.5
TheColdCrafter April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Donor's get special Treatment?Check my infractions.
Fuseh April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
No man,just no archive this.Atdit April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Donor's get special Treatment?
Check my infractions.
xDD
Rainstruck April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Sadly, I agree.
From my experience as a Moderator, I have seen donors favored over regular players. I won't name names, however. You know who you are.
SnowSX3 April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
No-one gets special treatment, regardless of their rank.If you feel as if a staff member is being biased towards anyone in any situation, gather evidence and email the support team.
Riskayyy April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
I second this. I have seen it with different moderators and it really makes the staff team look like they sometimes can't decide on a side to take. It makes them look undecisive and when I see someone swear in chat who is a donor they won't get punished, and when I see a non-donor they will get punished for saying the exact same thing. The Staff team is indecisive ATM, and they need to be able to make a choice soon on whether or not swearing is allowed.
Rainstruck April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Want to know why we're indecisive? It's because we're listening to the community's two-sided argument whether a rule should be enforced or not.
Riskayyy April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Just decide m8. Don't split halfway or another. Heres what I recommend, either next staff meeting or Sr. Staff meeting, talk about it and come back with an answer.
Rainstruck April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
That's the point! We do decide but the community changes their mind all the time!
Riskayyy April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
We change our mind because we have never received an official answer.
Rainstruck April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Which is why I really really really want Administrators to start monthly update threads, like what Jake and I did - planned to at least and that's our issue: Lack of Administration > Community connection. (Development side is perfectly fine IMO).
Joao_Victor April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Special treatment? Lol khttps://avicus.net/Bau_#infractions
Honestly from my experience most staff don't give a shit about if someone is a donor or not. To me all your donorship means is a little badge for the game and forums, most don't give special treatment.
Iron April 20, 2015 at 3:04 PM UTC
Guy's, if a donator swears in chat that much, why aren't you reporting them? Also, officially you cannot say "F***" however leniency from mods comes into factor.Burningtaco_224 April 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM UTC
Want to know why we're indecisive? It's because we're listening to the community's two-sided argument whether a rule should be enforced or not.
BoldAndBrash April 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM UTC
I say that we be allowed to swear as it would get some people (including me) unbanned and give avicus more activity.
Burningtaco_224 April 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM UTC
nope it was mainly to just state a theory i have about the serverBoldAndBrash April 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM UTC
nope it was mainly to just state a theory i have about the server
Also, you can always appeal your ban under the "Appeal an Infraction" tab.
TheColdCrafter April 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM UTC
I say that we be allowed to swear as it would get some people (including me) unbanned and give avicus more activity.
i think you just want to get unbanned
kk
you wouldnt've mentioned it if this was just a theory
and check donors infractions, no sPecial treatment.
toketrain April 21, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
just by looking at donor's profiles, you can see they also can have a lot of infractions. it's true.however, most of the ones i looked at had multiple permanent bans that had been cleared, and the players were allowed to come back even if they had tons of infractions and a few perm bans. that might be where the bias falls, but i'm not sure. i'm speaking from a purely factual place here from what i have seen, if you have arguments to the contrary i am happy to question my views.
Okiba April 21, 2015 at 11:04 PM UTC
plus, donors spent money for their rank(obviously). they don't want their money to be wasted by doing something stupid and getting banned, which is like $20 down the drain or somethin :/Y0urm0m1 April 22, 2015 at 6:04 AM UTC
IF the "new" rule says you cant cuss AT ALL, then I am against it. (And this is coming from a person who is against cursing and doesn't curse at all)Sure it is an uncessary thing to say in chat and its a trash word but if its to vent out anger, i guess its ok. I mean, we got kids in minecraft screaming stupid, uncessary stuff so shouldn't they be punished as well?
Point is, its gotta a bit more chill. You can't just ban cursing in general because a lot of people in the internet curse. IF you can't deal with people saying like the f word once, then its best to stay off the internet.
However, i beleive they should be punished if they curse directly a person with rude intentions and use it excessively
Readarding the @OP, i do not see that a lot in Avicus if i remember but if you do see some bias, just email support (btw just to be clear, just cause your a donor doesn't mean you can break the rules and stuff. You are still a normal player who plays Avicus but the server has distncted you as a person who donated and got the perks that came along with it)
Trexychan April 22, 2015 at 4:04 PM UTC
No swearing? lolno, that won't happen. Ever.You can't just drop that rule and expect people to follow it.
Joao_Victor April 22, 2015 at 4:04 PM UTC
just by looking at donor's profiles, you can see they also can have a lot of infractions. it's true.
however, most of the ones i looked at had multiple permanent bans that had been cleared, and the players were allowed to come back even if they had tons of infractions and a few perm bans. that might be where the bias falls, but i'm not sure. i'm speaking from a purely factual place here from what i have seen, if you have arguments to the contrary i am happy to question my views.
Think of this, regular staff don't get a penny of your donations, so why would they care if you were a donor or not? Yes there is some bias for good friends, but purely donors? No, you donating doesn't benefit the staff at all. They're not going to look at you and say "oh he gave us money lets give him treatment". No, it doesn't work like that.
toketrain April 22, 2015 at 10:04 PM UTC
Back when unbans were through the support email, most donors knew where to able and how to write one.
Think of this, regular staff don't get a penny of your donations, so why would they care if you were a donor or not? Yes there is some bias for good friends, but purely donors? No, you donating doesn't benefit the staff at all. They're not going to look at you and say "oh he gave us money lets give him treatment". No, it doesn't work like that.
Burningtaco_224 April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
Yeah and I knew how to write a appeal when the email was used you know what screw it THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE RESTARTED I SAY WE JUST RESTART THE SERVER IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRATIC SERVER IS WHAT WE NEED WE NEED THE PEOPLES OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RULES SO WE CAN CREATE A CONSTITUTION LIKE RULE SET. THAT'S WHAT I SAY.ProfessorUtonium April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
Yeah and I knew how to write a appeal when the email was used you know what screw it THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE RESTARTED I SAY WE JUST RESTART THE SERVER IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRATIC SERVER IS WHAT WE NEED WE NEED THE PEOPLES OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RULES SO WE CAN CREATE A CONSTITUTION LIKE RULE SET. THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
Burningtaco_224 April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
no
MidnightBeats April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
Yeah and I knew how to write a appeal when the email was used you know what screw it THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE RESTARTED I SAY WE JUST RESTART THE SERVER IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRATIC SERVER IS WHAT WE NEED WE NEED THE PEOPLES OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RULES SO WE CAN CREATE A CONSTITUTION LIKE RULE SET. THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
JUBBINATOR April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
but it makes sense the people should have the right to dictate the server unless their a hacker in which case they get no rights as they are basically a criminal. I say we just base the server off of a democracy so we can decide on what we want and don't want instead of letting admins and mods dictate what to enforce and what not to. The people need power as they are the 99% compared the the staff or authority
Burningtaco_224 April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
i say there be a small seperate server to try the idea and if it doesn't work in execution then leave the current server how it is now but if it works then convert the main severProfessorUtonium April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
but it makes sense the people should have the right to dictate the server unless their a hacker in which case they get no rights as they are basically a criminal. I say we just base the server off of a democracy so we can decide on what we want and don't want instead of letting admins and mods dictate what to enforce and what not to. The people need power as they are the 99% compared the the staff or authority
ProfessorUtonium April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
i say there be a small seperate server to try the idea and if it doesn't work in execution then leave the current server how it is now but if it works then convert the main sever
MidnightBeats April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
but it makes sense the people should have the right to dictate the server unless their a hacker in which case they get no rights as they are basically a criminal. I say we just base the server off of a democracy so we can decide on what we want and don't want instead of letting admins and mods dictate what to enforce and what not to. The people need power as they are the 99% compared the the staff or authority
JUBBINATOR April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
i say there be a small seperate server to try the idea and if it doesn't work in execution then leave the current server how it is now but if it works then convert the main sever
Burningtaco_224 April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
eh ill take my chances with things when it comes to stuff like thisProfessorUtonium April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
If you aren't happy with your ban than appeal! You have 20 infractions. Just pay attention to the rules and the mods won't "dictate" youSavageAmericans April 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
eh ill take my chances with things when it comes to stuff like this
ProfessorUtonium April 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
You really need to think before you speak. Almost all your infractions are for language.
got 'em
kycrafft April 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
Yeah and I knew how to write a appeal when the email was used you know what screw it THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE RESTARTED I SAY WE JUST RESTART THE SERVER IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRATIC SERVER IS WHAT WE NEED WE NEED THE PEOPLES OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RULES SO WE CAN CREATE A CONSTITUTION LIKE RULE SET. THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
Joao_Victor April 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
Yeah and I knew how to write a appeal when the email was used you know what screw it THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE RESTARTED I SAY WE JUST RESTART THE SERVER IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRATIC SERVER IS WHAT WE NEED WE NEED THE PEOPLES OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RULES SO WE CAN CREATE A CONSTITUTION LIKE RULE SET. THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
MUH RIGHTS
MUH CONSTITUTION
Because lets let uneducated 10 year olds vote on rules.
SavageAmericans April 29, 2015 at 8:04 PM UTC
I think burningtaco is getting burned...BoldAndBrash April 29, 2015 at 8:04 PM UTC
Yeah and I knew how to write a appeal when the email was used you know what screw it THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE RESTARTED I SAY WE JUST RESTART THE SERVER IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRATIC SERVER IS WHAT WE NEED WE NEED THE PEOPLES OPINIONS WHEN IT COMES TO RULES SO WE CAN CREATE A CONSTITUTION LIKE RULE SET. THAT'S WHAT I SAY.
Also, in one of your comments you said Avicus was being dictated. By who, exactly? The Staff? The Staff get absolutely nothing out of what they do. No money or candy. They would have no point in "dictating" on a block game.
steven5703 April 29, 2015 at 8:04 PM UTC
Constitution? You realize this is a children's game? You know, the young people who don't really understand much about laws and rules?
Also, in one of your comments you said Avicus was being dictated. By who, exactly? The Staff? The Staff get absolutely nothing out of what they do. No money or candy. They would have no point in "dictating" on a block game.
Stimulating April 29, 2015 at 9:04 PM UTC
You're theory is incorrect.
No player is above the rules and no-one gets special treatment.
This includes everyone, regulars, donators and staff members.
We're all on the same playing field when it comes to the rules.
DGB has been banned 4 times and is still allowed to play.
Tino DoS'd the website and got permd and unbanned 2 days later after he appealed
Previous regs with near 5 pages of infractions are unbanned.
Mods are extremely lenient towards regs, people with ranks and famous players, and that's pretty well known.
You can't blame the mods tho.
@Burning:
Last time I checked criminals are still supposed to have rights as well?
Joao_Victor April 29, 2015 at 11:04 PM UTC
https://avicus.net/Burningtaco_224#infractions"Let me suggest a constitution so that I can vote on letting myself continue to break rules in-game with immunity because punishing me is clearly a violation of my rights"
Burningtaco_224 April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
you know screw you guys im gonna test my idea and if it works then suck itTheColdCrafter April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
you know screw you guys im gonna test my idea and if it works then suck it
This is why you got banned.
Burningtaco_224 April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
dont tell me why i got banned i know why i got banned because it obviously states in my profileBoldAndBrash April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
you know screw you guys im gonna test my idea and if it works then suck it
Also, if any server does this, the people are going to kill the server.
Lastly, you said if you're right then we should "suck it"
But if we're right? :)
MLGtino April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
Idk what you're talking about, but regs and famous players get so much special treatment.
DGB has been banned 4 times and is still allowed to play.
Tino DoS'd the website and got permd and unbanned 2 days later after he appealed
Previous regs with near 5 pages of infractions are unbanned.
Mods are extremely lenient towards regs, people with ranks and famous players, and that's pretty well known.
You can't blame the mods tho.
@Burning:
Last time I checked criminals are still supposed to have rights as well?
Burningtaco_224 April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
Err....where are you going to test this?
Also, if any server does this, the people are going to kill the server.
Lastly, you said if you're right then we should "suck it"
But if we're right? :)
BoldAndBrash April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
So appealing false infractions isn't allowed now? DGB is the only valid example and the others are a load of crap.
MLGtino April 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM UTC
I thought DGB made a video series on getting banned onnAvicus for hacking even though he clearly didn't? I dunno.
_Phyre April 30, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
but it makes sense the people should have the right to dictate the server unless their a hacker in which case they get no rights as they are basically a criminal. I say we just base the server off of a democracy so we can decide on what we want and don't want instead of letting admins and mods dictate what to enforce and what not to. The people need power as they are the 99% compared the the staff or authority
Its a fucking game.... Wtf, I don't get what you're saying about "dictators". "dictate the server".
1) Check your grammar.
2) Think before speaking
3) Learn your damn facts.
And also, your infractions are mainly for language, so, you're better of going to OCN or somewhere else to trash talk.
Joao_Victor April 30, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
you know screw you guys im gonna test my idea and if it works then suck it
gg
TheColdCrafter April 30, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
*gets banned from own server for harrasment*
gg
GG democracy
Aerosmith April 30, 2015 at 1:04 AM UTC
Guys please, everyone calm down. The situation shouldn't get worse. If BurningTaco here wants to test something, he has a right to his opinion. But I suggest next time, picking a server where you first claim is valid. Staff are picked to respect all players.As for yourself BurningTaco, I suggest you calm down man. Although you may have your opinion, why go about it being rude to others? Telling people to suck something is just wrong and disrespectful man. Please. This community is all respect and fun. Lets keep it that way.
Stimulating April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Regardless, Shadow's claim is false. I rarely see this sort of stuff happen. And people who do it generally get demoted.
Not trying to get any1 banned, but ban evasion = a ban and no chance of appealing, and that clearly hasn't been followed.
You're basically stating that there is no bias, there obviously is. You know yourself regs are treated vastly better than other players, who may not play as much or be as well known.
TheColdCrafter April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
He did ban evade, and there's evidence showing he ban evaded on video.
Not trying to get any1 banned, but ban evasion = a ban and no chance of appealing, and that clearly hasn't been followed.
You're basically stating that there is no bias, there obviously is. You know yourself regs are treated vastly better than other players, who may not play as much or be as well known.
they break the rules less.
Stimulating April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
There is not really a bias. Regs get treated better because
they break the rules less.
Most people who aren't regs swear (yes, I saw this once...) 2 times and get kicked, and a reg swearing 3+ times in front of a mod and not get kicked. Same mod, same game.
PokerFace April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Ok, I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus, but Ik regs who constantly hackusate, swear, and get pissy in chat constantly and don't get punished.
Most people who aren't regs swear (yes, I saw this once...) 2 times and get kicked, and a reg swearing 3+ times in front of a mod and not get kicked. Same mod, same game.
Dyspa April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
There is not really a bias. Regs get treated better because
they break the rules less.
Stimulating April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Some day, it will all change. I promise to you.
I'm not ragging on anyone, but there is bias, and to say there is little to none, is just pushing it a bit too far in terms of the "innocence" of the server.
SnowSX3 April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Idk what you're talking about, but regs and famous players get so much special treatment.
DGB has been banned 4 times and is still allowed to play.
Tino DoS'd the website and got permd and unbanned 2 days later after he appealed
Previous regs with near 5 pages of infractions are unbanned.
Mods are extremely lenient towards regs, people with ranks and famous players, and that's pretty well known.
You can't blame the mods tho.
@Burning:
Last time I checked criminals are still supposed to have rights as well?
Were you present for any of them?
No.
You don't know the full story.
You don't understand why these people have been appealed because it doesn't have anything to do with you.
It involves the player in question and the staff team. No-one else.
As I stated before, no-one gets special treatment.
Donators don't;
Regulars don't;
Staff members don't.
That's the truth.
Everyone's on the same playing field.
TheColdCrafter April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Not really, check this: avicus.net/DaGoldBrick..
and from what i see, he just constantly brokethe rules.
Stimulating April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
All of these examples you've listed.
Were you present for any of them?
No.
You don't know the full story.
You don't understand why these people have been appealed because it doesn't have anything to do with you.
It involves the player in question and the staff team. No-one else.
As I stated before, no-one gets special treatment.
Donators don't;
Regulars don't;
Staff members don't.
That's the truth.
Everyone's on the same playing field.
I mean, do what you want, but seriously...you can't say everything is fair with stuff like this.
SnowSX3 April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Ok, as a fair question to ask then concerning that, is that if everyone is on the same playing field, then why is someone with 4 Perm bans and TONS of bans on alts you know about still playing on the server?
I mean, do what you want, but seriously...you can't say everything is fair with stuff like this.
Stimulating April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Have you tried to contact the staff or have sent an online report?
Most are actually decent people, or friends, so I'd choose not to, as if my help was needed with that in the first place...
From my knowledge, when people receive an infraction, or when an appeal is reviewed, their other infractions are looked upon, so the staff should already be aware.
SnowSX3 April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Pretty sure mods don't need a pointer for stuff like that...
Most are actually decent people, or friends, so I'd choose not to, as if my help was needed with that in the first place...
From my knowledge, when people receive an infraction, or when an appeal is reviewed, their other infractions are looked upon, so the staff should already be aware.
We can't do everything, sometimes, we do need pointers for that.
Most are actually decent people, or friends, so I'd choose not to
So, you're complaining how some people have a lot of infractions and how they're still playing but you're Ok with it because they're decent people?
So, what are you trying to say?
Stimulating April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
If you think someone is in breach of the rules then contact the staff.
We can't do everything, sometimes, we do need pointers for that.
Most are actually decent people, or friends, so I'd choose not to
So, you're complaining how some people have a lot of infractions and how they're still playing but you're Ok with it because they're decent people?
So, what are you trying to say?
Some of those people I would not like to see banned, but I would like to point out that there is bias and it is there.
If you're going to deny it, expect arguments and counter-points against that :P
Dyspa April 30, 2015 at 3:04 AM UTC
Yeah, hes a reg now?
and from what i see, he just constantly brokethe rules.
Brick is a regular but he doesn't/didn't break the rules less just because he is a regular + He didn't get better treatement either.
RightSide April 30, 2015 at 5:04 AM UTC
What sorry but this is completly wrong full stop. I have never noticed this happen,if you see it has happened get eveidence which shows the Mod or Mods doing it and report to a Sr staff+ thanks. (I have never seen this happen). :)MidnightBeats April 30, 2015 at 6:04 AM UTC
you know screw you guys im gonna test my idea and if it works then suck it
StewieFG April 30, 2015 at 6:04 AM UTC
This thread turned into a huge flame war.LOL.
/summon MLGPorky
Porky, save us, lock the thread!
Lokigh April 30, 2015 at 7:04 AM UTC
Well to be honest I agree a bit.MLGtino April 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
He did ban evade, and there's evidence showing he ban evaded on video.
Not trying to get any1 banned, but ban evasion = a ban and no chance of appealing, and that clearly hasn't been followed.
You're basically stating that there is no bias, there obviously is. You know yourself regs are treated vastly better than other players, who may not play as much or be as well known.
MLGtino April 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM UTC
I'm saying how there is bias. I'm not moaning saying "OMFG THIS SERVER IS SO BAD AND BIASED", rather I'm giving examples to prove a point.
Some of those people I would not like to see banned, but I would like to point out that there is bias and it is there.
If you're going to deny it, expect arguments and counter-points against that :P
Joao_Victor April 30, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Ok, as a fair question to ask then concerning that, is that if everyone is on the same playing field, then why is someone with 4 Perm bans and TONS of bans on alts you know about still playing on the server?
I mean, do what you want, but seriously...you can't say everything is fair with stuff like this.
After a few months Brick's misbeahavior was getting rarer and rarer eventually to the point where we just didn't see the reason to permban him as he would just wreck havoc on alts, plus as I previously said he wasn't acting like a complete dick anymore.
He hasn't gotten an infraction in 5 months, so it looks like he's changed.
Robin_DD_J April 30, 2015 at 11:04 AM UTC
Who cares? It's a blockgame.Aphelion April 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM UTC
I would like to know why staff members are allowed to use racial and homophobic slurs and be disrespectful against people with mental and physical disabilities. It's pretty obnoxius tbh, especially when sr staff members deny it like it never happens, when it does.I'm sure Avicus doesn't want recognition for being racist, homophobic and against people with disabilities, or do you?
Rainstruck April 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM UTC
*Cues Jaws Music*Joao_Victor April 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM UTC
I would like to know why staff members are allowed to use racial and homophobic slurs and be disrespectful against people with mental and physical disabilities. It's pretty obnoxius tbh, especially when sr staff members deny it like it never happens, when it does.
I'm sure Avicus doesn't want recognition for being racist, homophobic and against people with disabilities, or do you?