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Tournament Blacklists by Tazz July 31, 2016 at 12:07 AM UTC

Hey,

As you have probably realised, tournament blacklists have now been implemented, thanks to ALM.

Currently, tournament blacklists block access to avicus.net/teams and /tournaments, which also means when blacklisted it kicks you from your team. This means you can not be on a team, and if you are on a team on an alt account and you play on a scrim server you will be permanently banned for Ban Evasion, starting from right now. If you are on a team on an alternate account and you can't leave that team for whatever reason, email [email protected] as soon as possible so you are not permanently banned.

Unfortunately we had to blacklist around 45 players which is a shame after the most successful tournament yet, being last tournament. 

All tournament blacklists can be found here: 
http://hastebin.com/ebojeposef.css

To appeal a tournament ban please email [email protected]. If you make an appeal on the forums you will instantly be redirected to there. Moderators, leave any tournament related ban to Officials please to save being complained at by me :D

The format of a tournament ban message is [TOURNEY] Blacklist Reason [LENGTH], and it will always stay like this from now.

Regards 

The Avicus Network Officials

ProfessorUtonium July 31, 2016 at 12:07 AM UTC

i already told you

we can't see tournament blacklists in the punishment page

>.>

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 12:07 AM UTC

i already told you

we can't see tournament blacklists in the punishment page

>.>
Let me talk to Austin, had no clue about that.

Humblares July 31, 2016 at 12:07 AM UTC

:c

ProfessorUtonium July 31, 2016 at 12:07 AM UTC

Let me talk to Austin, had no clue about that.
http://imgur.com/a/E3IzC all i see

KojaCola July 31, 2016 at 12:07 AM UTC

So all of the people in the 14 pages of punished players are on the blacklist?

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 12:07 AM UTC

So all of the people in the 14 pages of punished players are on the blacklist?
No, only ones with the tournament ban type but you can't see those yet, you should be able to soon otherwise I'll just make a pastebin.

felipu_feliu July 31, 2016 at 1:07 AM UTC

what are the reasons to get blacklisted?

Riilo July 31, 2016 at 1:07 AM UTC

Still don't understand why their not allowed to join a different team and join scrims but whatever.

PosteGamer July 31, 2016 at 1:07 AM UTC

what are the reasons to get blacklisted?
Hacer más de 2 no shows - Usar algún cheat - negarce al Screenshare

Zintenka July 31, 2016 at 1:07 AM UTC

Still don't understand why their not allowed to join a different team and join scrims but whatever.
They're gon' cheat and whatnot for more, some of these players are Avicus regulars and obviously already know the rules.

If they chose to hack, then let them suffer the consequences in my opinion ;)

Riilo July 31, 2016 at 1:07 AM UTC

They're gon' cheat and whatnot for more, some of these players are Avicus regulars and obviously already know the rules.

If they chose to hack, then let them suffer the consequences in my opinion ;)
Yes but its a tournament ban, not a scrim ban. They don't need to be banned from everything competitive on avicus.

AND some of the players, it wasn't their fault that 1 of there members fucked them up.

felipu_feliu July 31, 2016 at 1:07 AM UTC

Hacer más de 2 no shows - Usar algún cheat - negarce al Screenshare
okay, 2 no-shows en 1 torneo o en general? cuanto dura el blacklist? y es para la persona o todo el equipo?

PosteGamer July 31, 2016 at 2:07 AM UTC

okay, 2 no-shows en 1 torneo o en general? cuanto dura el blacklist? y es para la persona o todo el equipo?
2 no-shows en un mismo torneo. El blacklist si no me equivoco dura 1 torneo a menos que sea por cheats que es permanente. Si es por 2 no-shows del team se sanciona a todo el team.

felipu_feliu July 31, 2016 at 2:07 AM UTC

2 no-shows en un mismo torneo. El blacklist si no me equivoco dura 1 torneo a menos que sea por cheats que es permanente. Si es por 2 no-shows del team se sanciona a todo el team.
ok gracias!, y tienen la lista de quienes fueron blacklisteados?

PosteGamer July 31, 2016 at 2:07 AM UTC

ok gracias!, y tienen la lista de quienes fueron blacklisteados?
En la página de punishments de Tazz, link en el post, se podrá ver a todos los 45 jugadores que están blacklisteados, actualmente hay un error por lo que se pueden ver sólo 5 de estos 45.

felipu_feliu July 31, 2016 at 2:07 AM UTC

En la página de punishments de Tazz, link en el post, se podrá ver a todos los 45 jugadores que están blacklisteados, actualmente hay un error por lo que se pueden ver sólo 5 de estos 45.
yo no veo a ninguno, los punishments que puedo ver no son relacionados con el torneo. igual de todas maneras gracias por la ayuda xabal!

PosteGamer July 31, 2016 at 2:07 AM UTC

yo no veo a ninguno, los punishments que puedo ver no son relacionados con el torneo. igual de todas maneras gracias por la ayuda xabal!
https://avicus.net/punishments?page=3&staff=Tazz Ahí están. De nada! 
Además me ayuda para los OfficialPoints(?

DaFrozenBlaze July 31, 2016 at 2:07 AM UTC

How about let them be on a team if they want to but they just can't participate in a tournament

HotAndCrunch July 31, 2016 at 5:07 AM UTC

If I am in a team on an alt, but I do not register for the tourney on said alt, can I still get blacklisted?

DaFrozenBlaze July 31, 2016 at 6:07 AM UTC

If I am in a team on an alt, but I do not register for the tourney on said alt, can I still get blacklisted?
As long as only one of your accounts is registered for a tournament it's fine

Crimson_Aught July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

So, if team was banned because of one hacker, everyone in a team are blacklisted on every competitive side of Avicus, am I right? Isn't it a little bit cruel?
You have banned 45 regulars on our poor competitive side, and most is innocent. I think, they may just leave the server, because there is nothing to do besides scrimmages and tournaments. And you cut down number of people, who can organize stable teams, and in next tournaments we will see the same names in our new hall of fame. 
It is really unfair.

DaFrozenBlaze July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

So, if team was banned because of one hacker, everyone in a team are blacklisted on every competitive side of Avicus, am I right? Isn't it a little bit cruel?
You have banned 45 regulars on our poor competitive side, and most is innocent. I think, they may just leave the server, because there is nothing to do besides scrimmages and tournaments. And you cut down number of people, who can organize stable teams, and in next tournaments we will see the same names in our new hall of fame. 
It is really unfair.
A team is disqualified and blacklisted if there were 2 cases of players getting banned for hacking. The team is responsible for their players, whether they know or not they were hacking. 
These people are banned anyway, they can't play the server. We wouldn't want hackers playing on our server. Them leaving really doesn't hurt us anyway. Most of them are not even regulars here.

ImRaging July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

How long or how many tournaments does a blacklist for 2 no shows last?

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

If I am in a team on an alt, but I do not register for the tourney on said alt, can I still get blacklisted?
But you also register on your main? No? You won't be banned unless you register on 2 accounts.

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

How long or how many tournaments does a blacklist for 2 no shows last?
No one got blacklisted for no showing

DaFrozenBlaze July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

No one got blacklisted for no showing
If a team did it would be like any other blacklist right?

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

If a team did it would be like any other blacklist right?
???

Legoche July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

Come on then, spill the BEANS, who got blacklisted?

DaFrozenBlaze July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

???
A blacklist for hacking and a blacklist for noshowing is the same right??????

ImRaging July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

No one got blacklisted for no showing
Arcadeus? Thats why max is blacklisted i thought...


edit: one if their played cheated so they nowshowed surely being blacklisted for that?

Legoche July 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM UTC

Arcadeus? Thats why max is blacklisted i thought...


edit: one if their played cheated so they nowshowed surely being blacklisted for that?
Arcadeus refused to play

Riilo July 31, 2016 at 8:07 AM UTC

A team is disqualified and blacklisted if there were 2 cases of players getting banned for hacking. The team is responsible for their players, whether they know or not they were hacking. 
These people are banned anyway, they can't play the server. We wouldn't want hackers playing on our server. Them leaving really doesn't hurt us anyway. Most of them are not even regulars here.
@Crimson_Aught

Agreed

@DaFrozenBlaze

Dude, a leader may ask their team before the match, "Does anybody have a client enabled?", and everyone would say no. That's probably the best a leader can do to stop someone from hacking. It's the player's fault, not the team's fault, if the whole team knew the person was hacking well they should be dq'd but you can't just assume that they know if their teammates have a client enabled.

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 8:07 AM UTC

Arcadeus? Thats why max is blacklisted i thought...


edit: one if their played cheated so they nowshowed surely being blacklisted for that?
Max was unbanned

Legoche July 31, 2016 at 8:07 AM UTC

Max was unbanned
Who was blacklisted, can you post a list since that link doesnt work

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 8:07 AM UTC

For a rough idea of who was blacklisted:

Legoche July 31, 2016 at 8:07 AM UTC

For a rough idea of who was blacklisted:
  • All of ETCR's roster for 1 tourney 
  • All of Arcadeus (-Bloodoh) for 1 tourney 
  • All of UbeR for 1 tourney 
  • All cheaters permanently 
  • Novalikespvp permanently 
  • xHeimskir permanently 
  • arrmando permanently
Thanks!!!

ImRaging July 31, 2016 at 9:07 AM UTC

Max was unbanned
Oh tyty

Crimson_Aught July 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM UTC

A team is disqualified and blacklisted if there were 2 cases of players getting banned for hacking. The team is responsible for their players, whether they know or not they were hacking. 
These people are banned anyway, they can't play the server. We wouldn't want hackers playing on our server. Them leaving really doesn't hurt us anyway. Most of them are not even regulars here.
I don't tell about hackers leave (btw they left), I tell about other players in a team, who are blacklisted because of those hackers. It breaks presumption of inconvenience. 
Why should innocent players suffer?

ImRaging July 31, 2016 at 12:07 PM UTC

I don't tell about hackers leave (btw they left), I tell about other players in a team, who are blacklisted because of those hackers. It breaks presumption of inconvenience. 
Why should innocent players suffer?
To discourage cheating

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 1:07 PM UTC

I don't tell about hackers leave (btw they left), I tell about other players in a team, who are blacklisted because of those hackers. It breaks presumption of inconvenience. 
Why should innocent players suffer?
No one is blacklisted for someone on their team hacking

Crimson_Aught July 31, 2016 at 1:07 PM UTC

To discourage cheating
Lol, then just ban everyone to discourage cheating.
All this reminds me the situation with Russian Olympic athletes... 

Crimson_Aught July 31, 2016 at 1:07 PM UTC

No one is blacklisted for someone on their team hacking
Then I don't understand. 
Few teams are blacklisted for 1 tournament. What does it mean?

JDKL July 31, 2016 at 1:07 PM UTC

Then I don't understand. 
Few teams are blacklisted for 1 tournament. What does it mean?
It means that they can't play the next tournament.

PosteGamer July 31, 2016 at 1:07 PM UTC

@Tazz, what happen with the players that refused to a screenshare? Are them blacklisted for a tourney just DQ?

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

@Tazz, what happen with the players that refused to a screenshare? Are them blacklisted for a tourney just DQ?
Those are permanently blacklisted, because they were most likely cheating.

hasl July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

Those are permanently blacklisted, because they were most likely cheating.
What is Ingigo's case?

Sevoo July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

lol as long as nova is banned idec

Legoche July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

What is Ingigo's case?
He is perma blacklisted

Indicado July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

No one got blacklisted for no showing
LMFAO

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

LMFAO
What made you laugh your ass off?

Indicado July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

What made you laugh your ass off?
"No one got blacklisted for hacking"

me-me



Tazz July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

"No one got blacklisted for hacking"

me-me


I didn't even say that? LOL

Indicado July 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM UTC

I didn't even say that? LOL
Tazz 
    Map Developer   Moderator   Official   Tournament Third Place
 July 31, 2016 at 4:08 PM  1 replies  Reply
    Replied to Crimson_Aught's post from July 31, 2016 at 3:52 PM
No one is blacklisted for someone on their team hacking

hasl July 31, 2016 at 3:07 PM UTC

Tazz 
    Map Developer   Moderator   Official   Tournament Third Place
 July 31, 2016 at 4:08 PM  1 replies  Reply
    Replied to Crimson_Aught's post from July 31, 2016 at 3:52 PM
No one is blacklisted for someone on their team hacking
Tazz means other people in the team- which has a cheater- will not be blacklisted.

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 3:07 PM UTC

Tazz 
    Map Developer   Moderator   Official   Tournament Third Place
 July 31, 2016 at 4:08 PM  1 replies  Reply
    Replied to Crimson_Aught's post from July 31, 2016 at 3:52 PM
No one is blacklisted for someone on their team hacking
That's not what I said at all lol?

Buw July 31, 2016 at 4:07 PM UTC

Thanks Tazz xox

Crimson_Aught July 31, 2016 at 4:07 PM UTC

It means that they can't play the next tournament.
Tazz confused me :/

Hete July 31, 2016 at 4:07 PM UTC

Can you give us a complete list of players? Not just teams

Zegita July 31, 2016 at 5:07 PM UTC

Can you give us a complete list of players? Not just teams
Yeah like archy does on balloon with judgement day

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 5:07 PM UTC

http://pastebin.com/2XPkNHch

FULL LIST OF BLACKLISTED PLAYERS

dev_revs July 31, 2016 at 5:07 PM UTC

http://pastebin.com/2XPkNHch

FULL LIST OF BLACKLISTED PLAYERS
says unsafe website D:

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 5:07 PM UTC

says unsafe website D:
hastebin is safe bruh

Jahaj July 31, 2016 at 6:07 PM UTC

says unsafe website D:
Here's the full list in case you can't access it.

Dokyle July 31, 2016 at 7:07 PM UTC

Why Punishers doesn't have blacklist?...all of their matches were no show.

Arehh July 31, 2016 at 9:07 PM UTC

I made an appeal 1 week ago without any reply

Arehh July 31, 2016 at 9:07 PM UTC

I made an appeal 1 week ago without any reply
Sorry 13 days ago

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 9:07 PM UTC

I made an appeal 1 week ago without any reply
Where did you appeal to? [email protected]? I don't see anything there? Resend it.

PosteGamer July 31, 2016 at 10:07 PM UTC

Why Punishers doesn't have blacklist?...all of their matches were no show.
Because you can´t be blacklisted for no-show, if you do no-show two times in the same tourney you get DQ

Arehh July 31, 2016 at 10:07 PM UTC

Where did you appeal to? [email protected]? I don't see anything there? Resend it.
I send it to [email protected] my error i will resend it

Tazz July 31, 2016 at 11:07 PM UTC

I send it to [email protected] my error i will resend it
Alright