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So My New Computer... by Exotic December 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

I am getting a new computer for christmas and have all the parts selected. Now I am not sure if this build will add up and work. So I need your help!

The parts are here https://pcpartpicker.com/b/HN2RsY

Also give tips on different parts if you think might be cheaper or better. 
My Budget is 1100 EUROS. 

I appreciate your help :D

Myv December 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM UTC

Who would spend 1100 euros on a PC

I spend 250 xD

Exotic December 8, 2014 at 6:12 PM UTC

Who would spend 1100 euros on a PC

I spend 250 xD
Thanks for the help.

Myv December 8, 2014 at 6:12 PM UTC

Oh yeah sorry xD

You have pretty top end stuff to choose from, looks fantastic from what you can choose :)

Pavlo December 8, 2014 at 8:12 PM UTC

Honestly, you've taken just about the best possible option for everything. Most of those components have a very good price/performance ratio! Looks pretty good to me as it is :D

_Phyre December 8, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

I think thats even better than my Desktop ._.

I still have the 780 in my Desktop :P

andee88 December 9, 2014 at 1:12 AM UTC

Wow thats a really good computer

do you think it could run shaders smoothly? i might try that build but with a few tweaks :)

_Phyre December 9, 2014 at 3:12 AM UTC

Wow thats a really good computer

do you think it could run shaders smoothly? i might try that build but with a few tweaks :)
It will definetly run shaders! Any Processor that is 3.5+ GHz (Mostly Intel) + GPU that is a GTX 720+ runs shaders pretty well, I have a desktop with an Intel core i7 4770k 3.8GHz And an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780Ti, and that runs shaders at about 200 fps + recording = average of 100 :P

Pavlo December 9, 2014 at 4:12 AM UTC

You don't actually need a good processor to use shaders with a high fps! all you need is a powerful graphics card, I'd recommend at least a GTX 660. As for processor, just about any quad-core should do great!

_Phyre December 9, 2014 at 4:12 AM UTC

You don't actually need a good processor to use shaders with a high fps! all you need is a powerful graphics card, I'd recommend at least a GTX 660. As for processor, just about any quad-core should do great!
... You made me laugh Xddd, you need a good CPU, doesn't matter what GPU you have your CPU is the one feeding info to your gpu to process graphics...

Pavlo December 9, 2014 at 5:12 AM UTC

... You made me laugh Xddd, you need a good CPU, doesn't matter what GPU you have your CPU is the one feeding info to your gpu to process graphics...
ummm......your gpu is what processes all visual things....while cpu processes everything else, and yes i does feed it to the gpu, but the gpu handles most of the load.....shaders put massive pressure on the gpu due to the amount of visual improvements, water reflection etc.....and also I have an overclocked i5 (3.8ghz) and a shitty graphics card (Radeon r7 240), and I get 20-25 fps with SEUS shaders.....

Howsie December 9, 2014 at 10:12 AM UTC

1. I prefer intel processors but I guess thats up to you
2. WD is a horrible company and develop horrible HDDs that corrupt so freakin often. Go seagate please.
3. DO NOT skimp out on the motherboard. It'll save you having to upgrade it later


Everything else is well chosen. Good luck :)

_Phyre December 9, 2014 at 1:12 PM UTC

ummm......your gpu is what processes all visual things....while cpu processes everything else, and yes i does feed it to the gpu, but the gpu handles most of the load.....shaders put massive pressure on the gpu due to the amount of visual improvements, water reflection etc.....and also I have an overclocked i5 (3.8ghz) and a shitty graphics card (Radeon r7 240), and I get 20-25 fps with SEUS shaders.....
Ok, I dont think you understand this.

The CPU is what actually puts the information into the GPU no matter what it is, Graphics, Rendering, etc. You NEED a good CPU (And a good GPU) While running shaders, yes your GPU does most of the work, your CPU cant be left out.

Take it as here:
You take a sh*tty desktop from the 90's, you put a GTX 780Ti in it, It wont perform better because the CPU isn't powerful enough to process information TO the GPU. So while you need a good GPU you also need a good CPU, which you said isnt needed. I get what you're saying but your CPU matters too... and TBH you can buy an i7 and overclock it yoursel, of course with the right power supply, and CPU cooler.

Spartemex December 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM UTC

It looks very reasonable, except for the CPU. The only things that I would change would be a i5-4770K and a over-clock capable motherboard (the "K" variant means it is over-clockable, and its is very reasonably priced). Everything else looks great!

Spartemex December 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM UTC

Ok, I dont think you understand this.

The CPU is what actually puts the information into the GPU no matter what it is, Graphics, Rendering, etc. You NEED a good CPU (And a good GPU) While running shaders, yes your GPU does most of the work, your CPU cant be left out.

Take it as here:
You take a sh*tty desktop from the 90's, you put a GTX 780Ti in it, It wont perform better because the CPU isn't powerful enough to process information TO the GPU. So while you need a good GPU you also need a good CPU, which you said isnt needed. I get what you're saying but your CPU matters too... and TBH you can buy an i7 and overclock it yoursel, of course with the right power supply, and CPU cooler.
You can have a GPU-focused build or a CPU-focused build. Yes, if you have a really crappy CPU and an amazing GPU, that will create bottlenecks, but it is totally legit (and common) to have a slightly better GPU than your CPU.

@Howsie, yes go for a Seagate 1TB Barracuda

zero9178 December 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM UTC

Ok, I dont think you understand this.

The CPU is what actually puts the information into the GPU no matter what it is, Graphics, Rendering, etc. You NEED a good CPU (And a good GPU) While running shaders, yes your GPU does most of the work, your CPU cant be left out.

Take it as here:
You take a sh*tty desktop from the 90's, you put a GTX 780Ti in it, It wont perform better because the CPU isn't powerful enough to process information TO the GPU. So while you need a good GPU you also need a good CPU, which you said isnt needed. I get what you're saying but your CPU matters too... and TBH you can buy an i7 and overclock it yoursel, of course with the right power supply, and CPU cooler.
That's called a bottelneck and also I think what Mumble wants to say is that the CPU doesn't matter that much while using shader ASLONG it isn't bottelnecking the GPU. 
In most cases it isn't a problem as a i3 4150 for example won't bottelneck a 780 ti as there isn't much load on it.

Spartemex December 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM UTC

That's called a bottelneck and also I think what Mumble wants to say is that the CPU doesn't matter that much while using shader ASLONG it isn't bottelnecking the GPU. 
In most cases it isn't a problem as a i3 4150 for example won't bottelneck a 780 ti as there isn't much load on it.
I just said that :P

zero9178 December 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM UTC

I just said that :P
yeah but you ninja'd me :/

Spartemex December 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM UTC

yeah but you ninja'd me :/
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zero9178 December 9, 2014 at 2:12 PM UTC

?
we both wrote it at the same time but you finished first so your post appeared so

Exotic December 9, 2014 at 3:12 PM UTC

Thanks to all of you :D. I have kind of changed by build graphics card cpu and motherboard wise :D

Pavlo December 9, 2014 at 8:12 PM UTC

That's called a bottelneck and also I think what Mumble wants to say is that the CPU doesn't matter that much while using shader ASLONG it isn't bottelnecking the GPU. 
In most cases it isn't a problem as a i3 4150 for example won't bottelneck a 780 ti as there isn't much load on it.
exactly what I was trying to say :)

_Phyre December 9, 2014 at 9:12 PM UTC

we both wrote it at the same time but you finished first so your post appeared so
I Understand what you are saying... Yes you need a good CPU and GPU, as having a slightly better GPU is ok, as long as you dont have like a GTX 980 as the graphics card and an 90's CPU, just doesnt work. But yes, I do agree with all of your statements, and sorry Mumble if you were trying to say that <3

Pavlo December 10, 2014 at 5:12 AM UTC

I Understand what you are saying... Yes you need a good CPU and GPU, as having a slightly better GPU is ok, as long as you dont have like a GTX 980 as the graphics card and an 90's CPU, just doesnt work. But yes, I do agree with all of your statements, and sorry Mumble if you were trying to say that <3
Alg, I feel bad for arguing back so much too....I think we were more or less saying the same thing in different words, and then miss-understanding each other

The_Detonator_ December 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM UTC

What are you uses, PvpMinion?

The_Detonator_ December 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM UTC

Ok, I dont think you understand this.

The CPU is what actually puts the information into the GPU no matter what it is, Graphics, Rendering, etc. You NEED a good CPU (And a good GPU) While running shaders, yes your GPU does most of the work, your CPU cant be left out.

Take it as here:
You take a sh*tty desktop from the 90's, you put a GTX 780Ti in it, It wont perform better because the CPU isn't powerful enough to process information TO the GPU. So while you need a good GPU you also need a good CPU, which you said isnt needed. I get what you're saying but your CPU matters too... and TBH you can buy an i7 and overclock it yoursel, of course with the right power supply, and CPU cooler.
No no no. That is not how it works. Your graphics card handles graphics. Your CPU handles calculations such as which blocks are destroyed by TNT. 

The Northbridge chip on your motherboard controlls what goes to your CPU, GPU, etc.

My CPU is not affected by the resolution I play at, graphics settings, whether I have shaders or not. That is the job of the GPU.

The_Detonator_ December 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM UTC

1. I prefer intel processors but I guess thats up to you
2. WD is a horrible company and develop horrible HDDs that corrupt so freakin often. Go seagate please.
3. DO NOT skimp out on the motherboard. It'll save you having to upgrade it later


Everything else is well chosen. Good luck :)
Western Digital generally have the lowest rates of failure among the three large HDD brands (Hitachi, WD and Seagate).
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/
The motherboard you can skimp out on as long as it has all the features you need.

BelgiumWaffles December 22, 2014 at 7:12 PM UTC

Who would spend 1100 euros on a PC

I spend 250 xD
Lol i spend 5000 euro

Derumisis December 28, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC

1. I prefer intel processors but I guess thats up to you
2. WD is a horrible company and develop horrible HDDs that corrupt so freakin often. Go seagate please.
3. DO NOT skimp out on the motherboard. It'll save you having to upgrade it later


Everything else is well chosen. Good luck :)
I've been told that Seagate HDDs fuck up a lot. My WD stuff work perfectly for 2-3 years now

AtditC December 28, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC

I've been told that Seagate HDDs fuck up a lot. My WD stuff work perfectly for 2-3 years now
Nice bump

DaFrozenBlaze December 28, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC

I've been told that Seagate HDDs fuck up a lot. My WD stuff work perfectly for 2-3 years now
Why are you bumping old threads

Derumisis December 28, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC

Why are you bumping old threads
It's only been six days dammit

Derumisis December 28, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC

Holy shit I apoligise, I didn't notice this was made in 2014...

Myv December 28, 2016 at 7:12 PM UTC

I've been told that Seagate HDDs fuck up a lot. My WD stuff work perfectly for 2-3 years now
You got that bored that you bothered looking at forum posts from 2014 lmfao

AbusiveUser December 28, 2016 at 7:12 PM UTC

Please, do not bump old threads.

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