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Ocn vs avicus (friendly tourney ) by ballzi July 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM UTC

Recently I have been think why can't there be a yearly avicus vs ocn tourney? 30 on each teams? This could just be a friendly match and I will organise teams this would bring avicus and ocn closer together 1 step more to becoming friends :D

BoldAndBrash July 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM UTC

Why would u get the right to organise? It should be Ivy or Howsie and Gill.

TheOpAmerican July 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM UTC

Why couldn't he organize it ?

garsdef July 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM UTC

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk

BoldAndBrash July 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM UTC

IMO it would be kinda weird to just have an Avicus player organize something so important. : / It would just make a lot more sense if a STAFF did it.

lulle265 July 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM UTC

OCN is better though.

TheOpAmerican July 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM UTC

OCN is better though.
Please don't start.

ballzi July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

Guys just think of it a annual tourney :D

BoldAndBrash July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

Lulle.

CreeperJoe62 July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

I can beat a lot of ocn players. Check my pvp encounters. Most of the times I died where due to teaming (which is inevitable). Am I allowed to post a link to my stats on ocn? But anyway that doesn't prove much. I think this'd be a great idea :)

MissCarmel July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

It would be incredibly hard to get the top thirty players and a lot of people would get upset that they weren't chosen

garsdef July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

I can beat a lot of ocn players. Check my pvp encounters. Most of the times I died where due to teaming (which is inevitable). Am I allowed to post a link to my stats on ocn? But anyway that doesn't prove much. I think this'd be a great idea :)
They're randys though, our regs vs. their regs. In all seriousness, they would win.

CreeperJoe62 July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

They're randys though, our regs vs. their regs. In all seriousness, they would win.
They may win in pvp aspects. But it's not all pvp that wins a tourney. I'm probably not good enough to get onto the servers team though.

CreeperJoe62 July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

Btw is MajorMcDonald a randy :p

garsdef July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

They may win in pvp aspects. But it's not all pvp that wins a tourney. I'm probably not good enough to get onto the servers team though.
They probably overpower us in most if not all aspects, they have a lot more experience with tourneys than us.

TheOpAmerican July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

What if we had 30 players from avicus, 30 players from ocn, threw all the names into the pool and drew out 2 teams ? That way we would get to work with some of the ocn players rather than strictly compete against them :)

MLG_Jirafa July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

We have literally no possibility against OCN, the better players of avicus have an OCN team, forget the first MCzone tourney?

Hola July 9, 2014 at 11:07 PM UTC

They may win in pvp aspects. But it's not all pvp that wins a tourney. I'm probably not good enough to get onto the servers team though.
OCN would also win in strategizing, preparing for the matches, teamwork/communication and basically everything...

NewVoltdrive July 10, 2014 at 1:07 AM UTC

A new era of respect between the 2 servers, and you want to fight them. No, we have to work on how to make things better.

ballzi July 10, 2014 at 1:07 AM UTC

It would be incredibly hard to get the top thirty players and a lot of people would get upset that they weren't chosen
Miss Carmel there will be separate levels too suited to your ability

ballzi July 10, 2014 at 1:07 AM UTC

Guys it's a way of becoming friends and stopping the dispute between the 2 servers

ViceTechnicolour July 10, 2014 at 1:07 AM UTC

This has been brought up several times and this will not be happening.

ballzi July 10, 2014 at 1:07 AM UTC

This has been brought up several times and this will not be happening.
Para why?

Doppelganger_ July 10, 2014 at 3:07 AM UTC

Para why?
First time and effort and second how would you choose regulars as many people like me play both and third what would to the network that won and fourth as MissCaramel said how would you distinguish the "best" players.

Kels July 10, 2014 at 4:07 AM UTC

No point in hosting this, I see absolutely nothing coming out of this. A tournament like this, even though a friendly tournament, would be filled with heated and cocky messages.

Notalgicular July 10, 2014 at 6:07 AM UTC

If this was gonna happen, Avicus would chose the people in the top of the leaderboards and it would be bad

CreeperJoe62 July 10, 2014 at 6:07 AM UTC

No point in hosting this, I see absolutely nothing coming out of this. A tournament like this, even though a friendly tournament, would be filled with heated and cocky messages.
Amen

ayy July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

30v30 
nope.avi

SpicyTunaRoll9 July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

this is a really bad idea cause some players are just gonna be cocky to each other and just b**ching around since the hatred toward each server (to some player's point of view). so i would recommend that don't host friendly tournaments between avicus and ocn yet. wait till the hatred stops.
you still think the servers hate each other? I would like to say as forcefully as I can, YOU ARE WRONG. I've been on mumble, been on ocn for about a year and I have yet to meet any rude/cocky people. You obviously are pre-judging the entire community when you haven't even been on mumble. Same applies for avicus. Honestly, I've been seeing some famous ocn players come to teamspeak and they're quite chill.

Matic0B July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

Dont start with any comments like "OCN is better" or "Avicus is better".

Ill point this out "This has been brought up several times and this will not be happening." ~ParaSpider

IF the tournament happens there should be staff organising. On overcast theres event coordinators that organise overcast events and they could probably work something out with avicus staff.

Reasons why I would not want this happening:
 - Servers - Who would host the event?
 - Maps - Selection of maps would have to be from OCN and avicus but in the final, it will come down to 1 map
 - Players - Lets say we have 8 teams (4 OCN, Avicus). Selecting those 80 players from both networks would be hard AND if OCN wins first four matches (example) then Avicus is already out.
 - Map knowlage - I dont know about Avicus but on OCN a lot of stuff depends on map knowlage. It would be really important.

Overall I just see too many negative things and issues that could appear.

 - Let's say Avicus loses (example). When some younger kids know there will be spam all over OCN's forum. 

Something like this would be cool to do but looking at the things I pointed out above I highly doubt it would be worth doing.

My opinion on the whole thing in a shorter version: It would be cool, but the amount of preparing is too big and not worth doing.

suspector July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

I have a better idea. Make it an unofficial tournament, one that players from both servers host. 
Either 32 teams from both servers can play or 16 teams. Put it into a randomiser for choosing who plays who. I would advice against putting OCN and Avicus at round 1 because it would make people upset. 
Instead of Avicus vs OCN it should be Avicus and OCN. This shows that it isn't a tournament to see who is the best but a joined one to bring both parties together.

I am sure staff would help out, it is just those with the final decision saying no. I would quite happily help out and try and get it organised. I have no issue with it, but a joint effort would bring the community closer together.
It is really just organising the whole tournament what seems to be more difficult than it actually seems to be.

Cxnfirmed July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

No. Just no.

Matic0B July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

I have a better idea. Make it an unofficial tournament, one that players from both servers host. 
Either 32 teams from both servers can play or 16 teams. Put it into a randomiser for choosing who plays who. I would advice against putting OCN and Avicus at round 1 because it would make people upset. 
Instead of Avicus vs OCN it should be Avicus and OCN. This shows that it isn't a tournament to see who is the best but a joined one to bring both parties together.

I am sure staff would help out, it is just those with the final decision saying no. I would quite happily help out and try and get it organised. I have no issue with it, but a joint effort would bring the community closer together.
It is really just organising the whole tournament what seems to be more difficult than it actually seems to be.
I am gonna say +1 to having mixed teams. I'd rather see players come together than fight eachother and then the loser network's younger players come spam to the winner network's forum

Cxnfirmed July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

I am gonna say +1 to having mixed teams. I'd rather see players come together than fight eachother and then the loser network's younger players come spam to the winner network's forum
I can just imagine ocn players reaction to mixed teams. xD

Matic0B July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

I can just imagine ocn players reaction to mixed teams. xD
heh heh...
Im from OCN :P

ayy July 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM UTC

heh heh...
Im from OCN :P
He has a point, OCN and Avicus could never work together well with mixed teams.

Cxnfirmed July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

He has a point, OCN and Avicus could never work together well with mixed teams.
This. OCN players are so much more experienced with pretty much everything, it wouldn't even be fun for both Avicus and OCN.

Matic0B July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

He has a point, OCN and Avicus could never work together well with mixed teams.
Communication wouldnt be that great as players dont know each other and yea it wouldnt really work out overall but it would be cool if it did work out.

ViolentBoo July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

Why does everyone talk about ocn. Seriously they're just a server just like us.

And putting the word friendly in front of the name doesn't change anything.

suspector July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

He has a point, OCN and Avicus could never work together well with mixed teams.
People misunderstood my point. People can make mixed teams if they like but I am not saying it has to be mixed teams. I meant teams will apply, from ocn or avicus or mixed, it gets randomised who can play and then bracket is put out.

Cxnfirmed July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

Why does everyone talk about ocn. Seriously they're just a server just like us.

And putting the word friendly in front of the name doesn't change anything.
It does.

ayy July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

Why does everyone talk about ocn. Seriously they're just a server just like us.

And putting the word friendly in front of the name doesn't change anything.
Wether you like it or not, Avicus and OCN are very different servers, this isn't a bad thing. OCN is much more competitive, and a lot more tournament based, players are more experienced, and therefore better than more Avicus players.

Cxnfirmed July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

Wether you like it or not, Avicus and OCN are very different servers, this isn't a bad thing. OCN is much more competitive, and a lot more tournament based, players are more experienced, and therefore better than more Avicus players.
"OCN is much more competitive, and a lot more tournament based, players are more experienced, and therefore better than more Avicus players."

Why can't avicus players understand this. .-.

1Theodore1 July 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM UTC

Please no.

Yung_Metro July 10, 2014 at 2:07 PM UTC

I dont think this tourny would be very friendly...

MajorMcDonalds July 10, 2014 at 3:07 PM UTC

Btw is MajorMcDonald a randy :p
Why do you ask? :P

MajorMcDonalds July 10, 2014 at 3:07 PM UTC

Wether you like it or not, Avicus and OCN are very different servers, this isn't a bad thing. OCN is much more competitive, and a lot more tournament based, players are more experienced, and therefore better than more Avicus players.
Very true. The majority need to understand this. :P

Teemobile July 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM UTC

Highly doubt the tourney will happen, but will there be tnt maps like Fractal decent or Spaceship battles? :3