What made Avicus lose players? by cellish April 1, 2017 at 6:04 AM UTC
Okay, as I was banned during the time Avicus were losing alot of players I'd just like to know the reason/reasons to why it dropped so much.Posighdun April 1, 2017 at 6:04 AM UTC
Pretty sure, i think, it was an ip migration issue when we switched over from Mczone to Avicus. We got like 900 people after that and between now and then people have left due to reasons.DaFrozenBlaze April 1, 2017 at 6:04 AM UTC
Lost of interest in MinecraftCamemes April 1, 2017 at 6:04 AM UTC
A lot of things.Poor update releases, other stuff like that and general loss of interest in the game, people moving on with their lives.
cellish April 1, 2017 at 6:04 AM UTC
Pretty sure, i think, it was an ip migration issue when we switched over from Mczone to Avicus. We got like 900 people after that and between now and then people have left due to reasons.
why did you switch from Mczone to Avicus?
killerbye22 April 1, 2017 at 8:04 AM UTC
Some people quit because Skywars didn't come to AvicusPhjilip April 1, 2017 at 8:04 AM UTC
earlier avicus players are getting older and then they are leaving bc of lifeRATTLEWARRIOR April 1, 2017 at 2:04 PM UTC
they were bullied by
Okiba
Okiba April 1, 2017 at 9:04 PM UTC
they were bullied by
Myworld6 April 3, 2017 at 2:04 PM UTC
I got mod.imryaan April 3, 2017 at 3:04 PM UTC
No server can consistentely have the same amount of playerskeller183 April 3, 2017 at 3:04 PM UTC
17 years +removing prestiges and fucking up the badges and colors when they were fineOriginaI April 3, 2017 at 3:04 PM UTC
they removed avicadei was prestige...
Legoche April 3, 2017 at 4:04 PM UTC
Lack of effort from Admins.Every set of Admins, they'd change the staff team, and retire within a month. That's it. We gained no players or anything.
The poor updates also, Avicore and Atlas weren't bug free when released.
Not a whole lot has changed since then, Admins now are trying but it is too big of a task to regain players.
Murphh April 3, 2017 at 4:04 PM UTC
#1 Reason - Changing things that were working.For example: Right now, Destroy has been gone for 3 days. What do they think will happen? The only server that consistently had players and included some favorite maps.
I have no clue who is making decisions on this server, but whomever it is. They want it to fail. Point blank.
MrDogPT April 3, 2017 at 6:04 PM UTC
I left rip rip rip :_:Xuph April 3, 2017 at 8:04 PM UTC
I got mod.
XtraMajestical April 3, 2017 at 8:04 PM UTC
There was problems such as:Massive block lag issues
Update, which came with lots of bugs
Remove of prestiges, which meant there was no longer anything to work towards
ViceTechnicolour April 4, 2017 at 2:04 AM UTC
Avicus isn't in a condition where it can continue to thrive with its current model- updates should be done not in increments or periodically, but rather as we go along. Overhauling Avicus has been done many times and each time, our player count dwindles lower and lower. Reconstructing each time makes it more difficult, and we don't have the infrastructure to continue rebuilding each time we lose players from bugs. We have inconvenienced our own community by removing useful features (like prestiges), keeping a poor map meta (constant void, we can't experiment with new concepts because maps with void are rated substantially higher), the fake hype, the constant admin changes, the server turbulence, the lack of advertising, the inefficiency and lack of organization in the staff team both previously and its recovery, the competitive edge losing its grip, the server downgrading all-around: it is building up to a disaster. Revival methods are obscure, but plausible. I would like to have the administrators take a more serious approach to create a plan for the near future, since our current plan is just "do as we go".There isn't enough motivation, dedication, devotion, you name it- within the staff team. The only thing keeping Avicus together is the community being stuck like glue between the bad times to the good times- because, let's face it, other servers have the same gamemodes (and more) with better functionality and customization as well as features, versus us who have not developed at a steady pace wielding that functionality. We could better ourselves at any given moment, and I still don't see us really getting back on our feet any time soon.
With the disasters and distractions all around, with awful maintaining of things, it's like the server is set up to fail currently. We have translators doing nothing and the translation project dead, we just recently had the biggest surge of inactive moderators ever seen before, we have 4 senior mods (which is our lowest count in a long time), there is absolutely no maintaining of developers, there is a very rough outline of checks and balances within the staff team, the referees have their own set of inactivity and complaints for officials to shift through, the marketing team is inexperienced, and I'm sure there's more. There seems to be flaws in almost every sector of the staff team, and out of all of these flaws, they've been present for a while or could have had preventative measures that never happened.
I just feel upset that the server isn't growing, and that in fact out of all the work staff have put into it for 3 years, it is going straight down, apparent from player counts and cold hard statistics. We need to get our asses in gear and put our work where it matters- but yet, I haven't seen much of that. I want more involvement with the staff to do things together, and of course that's where assembly was supposed to come in- another failed project that had potential.
We can do trial and error, sure, but we'll never make it big if we continue what we do. We don't take note of successes other networks have, we close our ears and have everything at our disposal that we don't actually use. We could be much more successful if the whole staff team got together and said "hey, let's do this" and stuck themselves to a job that's outside of moderating for once. We should be raising our expectations, and hope that follows suit, rather than "lowering our expectations because nobody seems qualified to help in these regards" as I heard previously that we were lowering expectations for seniors and juniors.
Not that the seniors or juniors or bad, but we can't have people who meet the bare minimum, if that, to put our trust into to fix the server and put it back on its feet. We need quality over quantity, and I would dare say that I'd rather have 10 mods who would put their elbow grease into fixing the server rather than the (current) 28 and counting staff with moderation powers.
I want to really know where we could draw the line for something like this, because I've been waiting for something to happen for a while and I've done all I can on my end. I've exhausted my time for a while doing my part, others have exhausted more than me, even, but it would be amazing if everyone else did their part, too.
TooSweetSki April 4, 2017 at 3:04 AM UTC
Avicus isn't in a condition where it can continue to thrive with its current model- updates should be done not in increments or periodically, but rather as we go along. Overhauling Avicus has been done many times and each time, our player count dwindles lower and lower. Reconstructing each time makes it more difficult, and we don't have the infrastructure to continue rebuilding each time we lose players from bugs. We have inconvenienced our own community by removing useful features (like prestiges), keeping a poor map meta (constant void, we can't experiment with new concepts because maps with void are rated substantially higher), the fake hype, the constant admin changes, the server turbulence, the lack of advertising, the inefficiency and lack of organization in the staff team both previously and its recovery, the competitive edge losing its grip, the server downgrading all-around: it is building up to a disaster. Revival methods are obscure, but plausible. I would like to have the administrators take a more serious approach to create a plan for the near future, since our current plan is just "do as we go".
There isn't enough motivation, dedication, devotion, you name it- within the staff team. The only thing keeping Avicus together is the community being stuck like glue between the bad times to the good times- because, let's face it, other servers have the same gamemodes (and more) with better functionality and customization as well as features, versus us who have not developed at a steady pace wielding that functionality. We could better ourselves at any given moment, and I still don't see us really getting back on our feet any time soon.
With the disasters and distractions all around, with awful maintaining of things, it's like the server is set up to fail currently. We have translators doing nothing and the translation project dead, we just recently had the biggest surge of inactive moderators ever seen before, we have 4 senior mods (which is our lowest count in a long time), there is absolutely no maintaining of developers, there is a very rough outline of checks and balances within the staff team, the referees have their own set of inactivity and complaints for officials to shift through, the marketing team is inexperienced, and I'm sure there's more. There seems to be flaws in almost every sector of the staff team, and out of all of these flaws, they've been present for a while or could have had preventative measures that never happened.
I just feel upset that the server isn't growing, and that in fact out of all the work staff have put into it for 3 years, it is going straight down, apparent from player counts and cold hard statistics. We need to get our asses in gear and put our work where it matters- but yet, I haven't seen much of that. I want more involvement with the staff to do things together, and of course that's where assembly was supposed to come in- another failed project that had potential.
We can do trial and error, sure, but we'll never make it big if we continue what we do. We don't take note of successes other networks have, we close our ears and have everything at our disposal that we don't actually use. We could be much more successful if the whole staff team got together and said "hey, let's do this" and stuck themselves to a job that's outside of moderating for once. We should be raising our expectations, and hope that follows suit, rather than "lowering our expectations because nobody seems qualified to help in these regards" as I heard previously that we were lowering expectations for seniors and juniors.
Not that the seniors or juniors or bad, but we can't have people who meet the bare minimum, if that, to put our trust into to fix the server and put it back on its feet. We need quality over quantity, and I would dare say that I'd rather have 10 mods who would put their elbow grease into fixing the server rather than the (current) 28 and counting staff with moderation powers.
I want to really know where we could draw the line for something like this, because I've been waiting for something to happen for a while and I've done all I can on my end. I've exhausted my time for a while doing my part, others have exhausted more than me, even, but it would be amazing if everyone else did their part, too.
With a recent example, The Jr Mod apps..
The fact that the Seniors prioritised activity over anything else and that they were going to be more lenient than in previous apps really sucked..
I don't understand how you build the staff team while simultaneously lowering your expectations with new applicants.
Fortunately, the new Juniors are doing well from what I've seen..but still.
profbananaslug April 4, 2017 at 5:04 AM UTC
the only people i really see complaining about the jr mods are the current mods always yawping about "muh decrease in ''''''''quality'''''''' "(with the exception of people talking about how trigger-happy they are sometimes with the punishments, but to be fair jr mods have been sweating for mod like that since the beginning of timereally at this point the best thing is to have active mods to ban hackers and stuff. you can be the best mod ever, but it doesn't mean jack if you never come online. really at this point the best thing to have is mods online to keep the hackers at bay, since too many hackers causes players to leave and is realistically the only sure and easy way to keep people from leaving.
also translator rank, total joke, applied for it and didn't get it, and to this day i have more contributions to crowdin than like 99% which only took me two hours of work the day before a french oral test. in fact there's probably quite a number of translators who don't have a crowdin account.
TooSweetSki April 4, 2017 at 6:04 AM UTC
the only people i really see complaining about the jr mods are the current mods always yawping about "muh decrease in ''''''''quality'''''''' "(with the exception of people talking about how trigger-happy they are sometimes with the punishments, but to be fair jr mods have been sweating for mod like that since the beginning of time
really at this point the best thing is to have active mods to ban hackers and stuff. you can be the best mod ever, but it doesn't mean jack if you never come online. really at this point the best thing to have is mods online to keep the hackers at bay, since too many hackers causes players to leave and is realistically the only sure and easy way to keep people from leaving.
also translator rank, total joke, applied for it and didn't get it, and to this day i have more contributions to crowdin than like 99% which only took me two hours of work the day before a french oral test. in fact there's probably quite a number of translators who don't have a crowdin account.
They're on a trial, the idea is that the work hard so they can pass xD
DaFrozenBlaze April 4, 2017 at 6:04 AM UTC
jr mods have been sweating for mod like that since the beginning of time
They're on a trial, the idea is that the work hard so they can pass xD
TooSweetSki April 4, 2017 at 7:04 AM UTC
The problem is being yourself
cellish April 4, 2017 at 7:04 AM UTC
?
TooSweetSki April 4, 2017 at 7:04 AM UTC
I think he means the problem is ppl aren't themselves on interviews etc
Myworld6 April 4, 2017 at 10:04 AM UTC
if this is what is going to end this server make sure to apply next round
Myv April 4, 2017 at 12:04 PM UTC
The biggest thing from what I can recall that made Avicus lose players was the Omega Update.It removed certain things (prestiges, for example) and this made a lot of people (maybe even hundreds, I am unsure) to leave.
Of course, there were many other issues that made people want to leave, however the return of prestiges in the last couple of weeks has brought some old people back.
I do actually like how Avicus is at the moment and prefer the smaller community, however I am in a minority viewfield here.