What will be done? by Or8 November 2, 2016 at 7:11 PM UTC

Lol avicus is dead

Looking at the sneak peaks from the Twitter page you can expect an update November 6th, this Saturday; it looks to be the implantation of CaptureTheFlag and KingOfTheKill.
After that I suppose the Devs will work on the tourney plugin or ranked, preferably the plugin first.
That'll be the biggest attraction.
The last chance.

Lol avicus is dead

Since you're the shining example of optimism and experience, share your wisdom with us, oh great one! =)

Some people aren't looking for anything logical.  Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Looking at the sneak peaks from the Twitter page you can expect an update November 6th, this Saturday; it looks to be the implantation of CaptureTheFlag and KingOfTheKill.
After that I suppose the Devs will work on the tourney plugin or ranked, preferably the plugin first.
That'll be the biggest attraction.
The last chance.

Walls is coming back. That should bring at least a few players back. I know that's one of the biggest things I'm looking forward to, along with a pretty good amount of people who have been playing Walls for 2-4 years. I'm just hoping it's not completely broken. xd I trust the MapDevs though, they'll do good with Walls. :^)

Walls is coming back. That should bring at least a few players back. I know that's one of the biggest things I'm looking forward to, along with a pretty good amount of people who have been playing Walls for 2-4 years. I'm just hoping it's not completely broken. xd I trust the MapDevs though, they'll do good with Walls. :^)

Sigh, walls...  Cough hypixel....  We need original ideas, especially NOT games that exist on HUGE servers

So let's revive it again!

To be fair, we did have Walls publicly before Hypixel.

Well it's not my fault u didn't develop it and make enough updates, u just let hypixel take over completely

Sigh, walls...  Cough hypixel....  We need original ideas, especially NOT games that exist on HUGE servers

Skywars has been on the server for a decent 2 weeks now I'd say, and so far I've seen an amazing 5 games in total being played. That's on average one game every 2.8 days, which is utter shit.

"5 games in total"

There were way more than 5 games only. Do you think SkyWars is only being played when you're online? :P I've seen way more than 5 games and I already played like 30 rounds. We just need to advertise the SkyWars so the players join them without spamming in chat 3 times "Skywars! NOW at: /sv SkyWars1" It's more like ~2-4 rotations/day

If they were gonna add skywars back atleast add the one from mczone cos why would people play skywars on avicus when you could play on other servers with more players and better set up 

atlas kinda killed avicus a bit its ruined the competitive scene and I preferred it playing coth, nexus and walls

Well, something that takes the player count from around 40-50 to around 10-15.

Walls was starting to become popular again on Avicus before Atlas. And if you're so intent on getting new games on Avicus then give some ideas instead of complaining that we have none. Walls started Avicus, and Keenan isn't about to let it go away. I get it if you don't like the gamemode, but adding gamemodes that some people left because they were removed, is a good way to not only get players back, but get new players that like those gamemodes as well. Knockback and hit detection was a big reason a lot of people left, and both of those have gotten much, much better in Atlas. People aren't going to realize that unless they have a reason to come back and try. Instead of complaining, help out. Since your ban you've been very toxic, and I understand why, you're mad about your ban, it makes sense, but please, if you're going to stick around, at least try to be non-toxic before you get yourself forum banned as well. (None of this was personal, but you have been pretty toxic lately.)

Edit: To add what to Snow said, Walls was released on Avicus publicly before it was on Hypixel, so your point is invalid. Along with the fact that the way Hypixel Walls is set-up, is stupid. If you're new to Hypixel you have no chance what so ever of winning a game. It's set-up so that the longer you've played the better stuff you start out with. The only people that play Walls on Hypixel is the people that have been playing for years and years, the people that have all the OP kits, and upgrades. Because without them, you can't win. You walk into a game and get 3-5 shot by nearly everyone when you have full iron. 

On Avicus, Walls needs a new kit system, something new and improved, similer to prestiges, but using Credits. Along side that it needs more maps, better/improved kits, and the MapDevs need to listen to the people that play Walls, and not just what they see. I know the MapDevs think about every aspect of gameplay, and ascetics, but sometimes the way a map is played might look good from a spectator's perspective but not at all from a player's perspective. A good example of this is the map Swampland Terrors. Nothing against the map, it looks and plays well, but the map is made for shorter, more action packed gameplay, and the way it plays is the opposite. It can easily be a long, drawn out map, that can take an hour plus to play, just because of a couple problems with it.

Note the MapDevs: I'm not a great builder but I'm willing to help with Walls maps, and kits if it's needed, nearly 4 years of learning & playing Walls would be helpful. ;p

"5 games in total"

There were way more than 5 games only. Do you think SkyWars is only being played when you're online? :P I've seen way more than 5 games and I already played like 30 rounds. We just need to advertise the SkyWars so the players join them without spamming in chat 3 times "Skywars! NOW at: /sv SkyWars1" It's more like ~2-4 rotations/day

I'm toxic because I said u have no original games? you can bring people back, thing is avicus was never a huge server so unless u bring new players it's not gnna work... what I'm not saying it should be like hypixel and no my point isn't invalid because you actually didn't develop it as much as it needed to be obviously, I played the game 2 times and everythijg was all over the place for a new player like me

That's a bit inaccurate. Walls, back in 2012/13, was one of the reason we were so big. I don't know when you joined this server but it was one or the biggest servers out there in 2013. Updating Walls was never an issue.

Avicus hit the 10-15 player count way before the Atlas update.

Not back then obviously, question is where are they all now? what I'm saying is why did you let hypixel take over walls

I'd prefer to have Nexus back but...

Things change. People move on, new gamemodes  produced by other servers attracted people, and to be frank Minecraft isn't what it use to be. A lot of people don't play it anymore. You can't expect people to stay in one place without checking everything else out.

this is a pent up rant about the current state of the server

if any staff are reading this, do not take this personal. It's just something you guys could improve on. Just a bridge between staff and community to show the "behind the scenes" stuff.

Let's be honest here. Avicus won't last in 2017 (wouldn't be surprised if it fell even before 2017). There are inconsistencies everywhere. The failure to optimize advertisement and staff recruitment is a big issue by the admins. The senior team needs to start working more while Mods are the only ones working (Teamspeak/server moderation and discussions). Teamspeak is falling because of the way the admins are running it. I'm currently carrying Teamspeak (with a developer, alm and piez) and working on the ts server all by ourselves. There is really no effort by admins to really discuss about the server. The developers, they are REALLY inactive and quite frankly, aren't talking to us at all. You see the things that us mapdevs are making? Yeah. The devs aren't talking to us with new XML features making maps interesting. We’re forced to do this by ourselves. The only developer who really talks to us is ALM. I talk to him everyday regarding the server and we’ve discussed many things to improve the server. Now to the mapdevs. The mapdevs need to start organizing more things. The headmapdevs really don't talk to us and the regular mapdevs, (para, jozz, and I) are really just trying to lift a dead elephant and carry it across a field. You know how terrible the skywars release was? That was supposed to be released 3 weeks prior. You know that map testing event thread? That was a failure of communication in the mapdev channel. To the mods, mods are cool. They actually do their jobs :^). Officials, idk I don't work with them. Builders are cool. They help mapdevs build maps. 

There has been zero effect in doing anything. While you guys are being told that advertisement is on its way, you know what I'm being told? This is very insufficient and there needs to be more donor perks and shop items that will increase the want for players to spend money (planned some ideas with ALM so stay tuned :) ). This is just the current stance of advertisement and gaining new ppl.

oh and if I get demoted because of this, at least I was filling a gap between staff and community by stating my opinion and showing what's happening inside the staff team for community members to see what's happening.

I would also like to congratulate ALM for being the main/only person really communicating and connecting devs, officials, map devs, and admins. 

So back to the main topic of what's next, What improvements would you guys like to see? I’m already seeing walls (planned), CTH (unsure), and nexus (planned) but is there anything else you guys want to suggest to get the dead server back on their shoes? Any Teamspeak updates, map stuff, donator perks, shop items, xml module updates, new features, gamemode suggestions, or what ever else you can think of that can improve the server for new players and make it easier for us to advertise without the need for money?

cya

Demoted.

thank you.

this is a pent up rant about the current state of the server

if any staff are reading this, do not take this personal. It's just something you guys could improve on. Just a bridge between staff and community to show the "behind the scenes" stuff.

Let's be honest here. Avicus won't last in 2017 (wouldn't be surprised if it fell even before 2017). There are inconsistencies everywhere. The failure to optimize advertisement and staff recruitment is a big issue by the admins. The senior team needs to start working more while Mods are the only ones working (Teamspeak/server moderation and discussions). Teamspeak is falling because of the way the admins are running it. I'm currently carrying Teamspeak (with a developer, alm and piez) and working on the ts server all by ourselves. There is really no effort by admins to really discuss about the server. The developers, they are REALLY inactive and quite frankly, aren't talking to us at all. You see the things that us mapdevs are making? Yeah. The devs aren't talking to us with new XML features making maps interesting. We’re forced to do this by ourselves. The only developer who really talks to us is ALM. I talk to him everyday regarding the server and we’ve discussed many things to improve the server. Now to the mapdevs. The mapdevs need to start organizing more things. The headmapdevs really don't talk to us and the regular mapdevs, (para, jozz, and I) are really just trying to lift a dead elephant and carry it across a field. You know how terrible the skywars release was? That was supposed to be released 3 weeks prior. You know that map testing event thread? That was a failure of communication in the mapdev channel. To the mods, mods are cool. They actually do their jobs :^). Officials, idk I don't work with them. Builders are cool. They help mapdevs build maps. 

There has been zero effect in doing anything. While you guys are being told that advertisement is on its way, you know what I'm being told? This is very insufficient and there needs to be more donor perks and shop items that will increase the want for players to spend money (planned some ideas with ALM so stay tuned :) ). This is just the current stance of advertisement and gaining new ppl.

oh and if I get demoted because of this, at least I was filling a gap between staff and community by stating my opinion and showing what's happening inside the staff team for community members to see what's happening.

I would also like to congratulate ALM for being the main/only person really communicating and connecting devs, officials, map devs, and admins. 

So back to the main topic of what's next, What improvements would you guys like to see? I’m already seeing walls (planned), CTH (unsure), and nexus (planned) but is there anything else you guys want to suggest to get the dead server back on their shoes? Any Teamspeak updates, map stuff, donator perks, shop items, xml module updates, new features, gamemode suggestions, or what ever else you can think of that can improve the server for new players and make it easier for us to advertise without the need for money?

cya

this is a pent up rant about the current state of the server

if any staff are reading this, do not take this personal. It's just something you guys could improve on. Just a bridge between staff and community to show the "behind the scenes" stuff.

Let's be honest here. Avicus won't last in 2017 (wouldn't be surprised if it fell even before 2017). There are inconsistencies everywhere. The failure to optimize advertisement and staff recruitment is a big issue by the admins. The senior team needs to start working more while Mods are the only ones working (Teamspeak/server moderation and discussions). Teamspeak is falling because of the way the admins are running it. I'm currently carrying Teamspeak (with a developer, alm and piez) and working on the ts server all by ourselves. There is really no effort by admins to really discuss about the server. The developers, they are REALLY inactive and quite frankly, aren't talking to us at all. You see the things that us mapdevs are making? Yeah. The devs aren't talking to us with new XML features making maps interesting. We’re forced to do this by ourselves. The only developer who really talks to us is ALM. I talk to him everyday regarding the server and we’ve discussed many things to improve the server. Now to the mapdevs. The mapdevs need to start organizing more things. The headmapdevs really don't talk to us and the regular mapdevs, (para, jozz, and I) are really just trying to lift a dead elephant and carry it across a field. You know how terrible the skywars release was? That was supposed to be released 3 weeks prior. You know that map testing event thread? That was a failure of communication in the mapdev channel. To the mods, mods are cool. They actually do their jobs :^). Officials, idk I don't work with them. Builders are cool. They help mapdevs build maps. 

There has been zero effect in doing anything. While you guys are being told that advertisement is on its way, you know what I'm being told? This is very insufficient and there needs to be more donor perks and shop items that will increase the want for players to spend money (planned some ideas with ALM so stay tuned :) ). This is just the current stance of advertisement and gaining new ppl.

oh and if I get demoted because of this, at least I was filling a gap between staff and community by stating my opinion and showing what's happening inside the staff team for community members to see what's happening.

I would also like to congratulate ALM for being the main/only person really communicating and connecting devs, officials, map devs, and admins. 

So back to the main topic of what's next, What improvements would you guys like to see? I’m already seeing walls (planned), CTH (unsure), and nexus (planned) but is there anything else you guys want to suggest to get the dead server back on their shoes? Any Teamspeak updates, map stuff, donator perks, shop items, xml module updates, new features, gamemode suggestions, or what ever else you can think of that can improve the server for new players and make it easier for us to advertise without the need for money?

cya

just sell it or something, someone with money will buy it and actually do stuff to the server

LOL maybe if the server was worth something, and they would divide the money leaving probs like 10 dollars for probably 100's of hours spent for the owner

i'll be honest here, avicus has a lot of potential, but if the admins want avicus to remain alive, they may as well admit that they have no money and sell it to someone that can bring it back up.

a 20-30+ playerbase server itself is worth well over $2k in todays market. however, since avicus has a lot of custom things (forums, plugins, maps, etc.), I would estimate avicus to be worth around $5k-$7k

this is a pent up rant about the current state of the server

if any staff are reading this, do not take this personal. It's just something you guys could improve on. Just a bridge between staff and community to show the "behind the scenes" stuff.

Let's be honest here. Avicus won't last in 2017 (wouldn't be surprised if it fell even before 2017). There are inconsistencies everywhere. The failure to optimize advertisement and staff recruitment is a big issue by the admins. The senior team needs to start working more while Mods are the only ones working (Teamspeak/server moderation and discussions). Teamspeak is falling because of the way the admins are running it. I'm currently carrying Teamspeak (with a developer, alm and piez) and working on the ts server all by ourselves. There is really no effort by admins to really discuss about the server. The developers, they are REALLY inactive and quite frankly, aren't talking to us at all. You see the things that us mapdevs are making? Yeah. The devs aren't talking to us with new XML features making maps interesting. We’re forced to do this by ourselves. The only developer who really talks to us is ALM. I talk to him everyday regarding the server and we’ve discussed many things to improve the server. Now to the mapdevs. The mapdevs need to start organizing more things. The headmapdevs really don't talk to us and the regular mapdevs, (para, jozz, and I) are really just trying to lift a dead elephant and carry it across a field. You know how terrible the skywars release was? That was supposed to be released 3 weeks prior. You know that map testing event thread? That was a failure of communication in the mapdev channel. To the mods, mods are cool. They actually do their jobs :^). Officials, idk I don't work with them. Builders are cool. They help mapdevs build maps. 

There has been zero effect in doing anything. While you guys are being told that advertisement is on its way, you know what I'm being told? This is very insufficient and there needs to be more donor perks and shop items that will increase the want for players to spend money (planned some ideas with ALM so stay tuned :) ). This is just the current stance of advertisement and gaining new ppl.

oh and if I get demoted because of this, at least I was filling a gap between staff and community by stating my opinion and showing what's happening inside the staff team for community members to see what's happening.

I would also like to congratulate ALM for being the main/only person really communicating and connecting devs, officials, map devs, and admins. 

So back to the main topic of what's next, What improvements would you guys like to see? I’m already seeing walls (planned), CTH (unsure), and nexus (planned) but is there anything else you guys want to suggest to get the dead server back on their shoes? Any Teamspeak updates, map stuff, donator perks, shop items, xml module updates, new features, gamemode suggestions, or what ever else you can think of that can improve the server for new players and make it easier for us to advertise without the need for money?

cya

i'll be honest here, avicus has a lot of potential, but if the admins want avicus to remain alive, they may as well admit that they have no money and sell it to someone that can bring it back up.

a 20-30+ playerbase server itself is worth well over $2k in todays market. however, since avicus has a lot of custom things (forums, plugins, maps, etc.), I would estimate avicus to be worth around $5k-$7k

"5 games in total"

There were way more than 5 games only. Do you think SkyWars is only being played when you're online? :P I've seen way more than 5 games and I already played like 30 rounds. We just need to advertise the SkyWars so the players join them without spamming in chat 3 times "Skywars! NOW at: /sv SkyWars1" It's more like ~2-4 rotations/day

i'll be honest here, avicus has a lot of potential, but if the admins want avicus to remain alive, they may as well admit that they have no money and sell it to someone that can bring it back up.

a 20-30+ playerbase server itself is worth well over $2k in todays market. however, since avicus has a lot of custom things (forums, plugins, maps, etc.), I would estimate avicus to be worth around $5k-$7k

No one would want to buy Avicus for $2000

Overcast got bought out only days before folding completely.

If Overcast can BARELY sell then there's no hope for Avicus.

I know many people who would be interested in buying that actually care to make it better.

No one would want to buy Avicus for $2000

Overcast got bought out only days before folding completely.

If Overcast can BARELY sell then there's no hope for Avicus.

No one would want to buy Avicus for $2000

Overcast got bought out only days before folding completely.

If Overcast can BARELY sell then there's no hope for Avicus.

Lifeboat Network actually contacted OCN months before they even announced shutting down. Overcast only decided to take the deal a few days before.

But I can agree, no one would purchase Avicus for 2K.
It would be too big and a risky investment for the buyer.

"What improvements would you guys like to see?"

Think back. Think back to 2013-2014.

What kept players hooked, what kept them playing and wanting more? Honestly, my memory is really bad so while I can't really remember much of old Avicus, surely SOMEONE will, and those that do, what was different about Avicus back then compared to now that made it actually huge? Was it the large amount of gamemodes or something? I cant remember.

There needs to be a reason to play, theres no end goal currently, no gain, no nothing, sure there are credits but they dont really do too much in terms of accomplishment.

*cough* prestiges *cough*
+1
I didn't play anything other then Walls back then, but the moment Walls lost prestiges it died. There is absolutely nothing to work for in Walls anymore. It's all just about playing a 10 minute grace period and fighting for a full 5 minutes and going to get the next game. (In Walls, as I know nothing about the other gamemodes) They need to raise height limits a lot, change the kits with the Walls community's help and input, accept more maps for at least testing (This is huge. Some maps don't look amazing but the gameplay would be amazing on them. It's hard to see that sometimes without testing or playing only Walls for 2 out of the 4 years you've been on Avicus. MapDevs are smart, and they know about each gamemode, but Seth is the only current MapDev that I've seen play walls on a regular basis in the past. I've seen MapDevs spectate matches before, but honestly you can't spectate Walls and see good gameplay, unless you play it consistently.), and bring back some older maps that were amazing. (Blue Cove, Tetris Plains, MonsterBash, and Grotto Arena to list a few examples.) Yes, I know, Tetris Plains was broken, and we need the map from the map makers, and that will probably not happen.

I understand OCN had casual offers. But nothing was finalised until that last second deal with Lifeboat. 

Give me an idea on who would buy Avicus, considering it's 'worth more than I think'.
KadirGarib

Add prestiges and see the player count increase, I guarantee it will.

Okay this has probably been requested before, but i think a lot of people are leaving because of a lot of hackers. If you guys develop an anticheat/get a good anticheat it would be more appealing for people to join. But thats just my opinion.

What's the point of adding skywars? Why would anybody choose to play a subpar server for skywars such as avicus when they can just go to hypixel and overall experience a better time playing the gamemode? Avicus had 1 successful and good quality gamemode in DTM, idk why you're trying to add new gamemodes to the server at all. If I was a new player I would choose to play hypixel or mineplex over avicus because they have a better quality standard (coming from a larger playerbase) and the social aspect of the gamemode is a lot better on those 2 larger servers too. As I see it, you have 0 reasons to add any new updates, it just harms the 1 successful gamemode you have if anything. Make something more unique if anything as opposed to randomly adding shit like skywars into the server.

Add prestiges and see the player count increase, I guarantee it will.

Walls was starting to become popular again on Avicus before Atlas. And if you're so intent on getting new games on Avicus then give some ideas instead of complaining that we have none. Walls started Avicus, and Keenan isn't about to let it go away. I get it if you don't like the gamemode, but adding gamemodes that some people left because they were removed, is a good way to not only get players back, but get new players that like those gamemodes as well. Knockback and hit detection was a big reason a lot of people left, and both of those have gotten much, much better in Atlas. People aren't going to realize that unless they have a reason to come back and try. Instead of complaining, help out. Since your ban you've been very toxic, and I understand why, you're mad about your ban, it makes sense, but please, if you're going to stick around, at least try to be non-toxic before you get yourself forum banned as well. (None of this was personal, but you have been pretty toxic lately.)

Edit: To add what to Snow said, Walls was released on Avicus publicly before it was on Hypixel, so your point is invalid. Along with the fact that the way Hypixel Walls is set-up, is stupid. If you're new to Hypixel you have no chance what so ever of winning a game. It's set-up so that the longer you've played the better stuff you start out with. The only people that play Walls on Hypixel is the people that have been playing for years and years, the people that have all the OP kits, and upgrades. Because without them, you can't win. You walk into a game and get 3-5 shot by nearly everyone when you have full iron. 

On Avicus, Walls needs a new kit system, something new and improved, similer to prestiges, but using Credits. Along side that it needs more maps, better/improved kits, and the MapDevs need to listen to the people that play Walls, and not just what they see. I know the MapDevs think about every aspect of gameplay, and ascetics, but sometimes the way a map is played might look good from a spectator's perspective but not at all from a player's perspective. A good example of this is the map Swampland Terrors. Nothing against the map, it looks and plays well, but the map is made for shorter, more action packed gameplay, and the way it plays is the opposite. It can easily be a long, drawn out map, that can take an hour plus to play, just because of a couple problems with it.

Note the MapDevs: I'm not a great builder but I'm willing to help with Walls maps, and kits if it's needed, nearly 4 years of learning & playing Walls would be helpful. ;p

That response still doesn't answer my question though.

It is very sad, when something is falling apart.
I think, the last Avicus main mistake was an unfinished update. After that server lost the most popular maps, decreased amount of the rest, and didn't get any new gamemodes and maps. They are coming now, 2 months(!) after update. Like, wtf? And someone is wondered, why Avicus seems dying?
That one, who pressed the "Update" button in August, almost killed the server. You just add nothing, except what? New plugins? Server menu? Awful lobby? Oh no, dear, ordinary players wouldn't eat that.
They cryed: "don't delete throwback maps, rebuild them, spread them...".  And what had you done? You hadn't listened to them. Again.
You had to postpone the update for another 3 months, when most of promissed stuff would be finished, and implement it all together.

There's one major flaw in this community.

They won't accept change.

And why is this the communities fault? It's the staffs job to serve the community and implement viable things that are popular with them.

Of course they're sick of all the updates you guys have pushed out on them while the player count dwindles, I lost interest in MC long ago, but I can't imagine being an active player here still and having to watch the server that used to have a thriving community and plenty of full servers die a slow painful death.

I never said it was their fault, however a clear example is Quintus.

The Map Dev team all hate it. They tried to remake it numerous times but it still was a Kill Farm with horrific gameplay. Communities response? Uproar. Quintus was made years ago and if this community can't let go of a stale map years old then how can the staff team be expected to implement things the community wants?

I understand OCN had casual offers. But nothing was finalised until that last second deal with Lifeboat. 

Give me an idea on who would buy Avicus, considering it's 'worth more than I think'.
KadirGarib

I'm not against the idea of Avicus merging or selling to another server, but I would like whoever buys it to know the past of the server. To know the community at least a little bit, and learn about the server before anything happens.

It's not what staff wants or thinks, it's the pple that spend their time on the server that should be making decisions

You don't have an option anymore, you can't say let's add this or do this...  cus the player base shrinked so much even a single player is a huge loss

There's one major flaw in this community.

They won't accept change.

Yea, let's just let the community make all server decisions....can't see anything going wrong.

That's obviously not what I meant, but it's true that you need to listen way more, you can't afford losing players anymore

basically after the last addition with credits, ive just about lost all hope in the server.

I never said it was their fault, however a clear example is Quintus.

The Map Dev team all hate it. They tried to remake it numerous times but it still was a Kill Farm with horrific gameplay. Communities response? Uproar. Quintus was made years ago and if this community can't let go of a stale map years old then how can the staff team be expected to implement things the community wants?

Great idea! Lets bring some gamemodes that people wont play just like skywars!

100% agree with you tho R3D, pointless to have it on here.

Alrighty, cracks knuckles 

Firstly I don't know if people actually realise this but stuff is being done. Stuff gets done everyday, we're admins for a reason and we have a role for a reason.... Although some of you might not see some of what happens around here a lot gets done on a day to day basis. This goes for staff members as well. Please do not presume that nothing is being done, the senior staff are useless and the owner doesn't care because remember you don't see what we do. There is always, and I mean always, stuff happening.

In regards with skywars. We know full well that right now our skywars won't attract players. The point of releasing this was to show people a little glimps of what is to come. This isn't the entire gamemode, there will be heaps more variations of it to come. And you can check twitter for those sneak peaks :P

In regards with Advertising. I don't know how many times I have to say this. There are still things we need to fix and as a result we can't go out advertising or people won't stay. We're working on fixing these issues. And like I already said in the last community update we did do some advertising but we aren't going to do anymore until we have fixed some of these problems.

You might not think anyone is interested in this network but you'd be suprised. Servers a lot bigger than we are, some of them most of you might have even played on, have been interested in us in the past and we can easily use this to our advantage if things didn't work out.

If people want to help out rather than just rant about stuff they don't know much about or just pressume stuff and make asumptions then we might actually be getting somewhere. Also, remember that at the end of the day the survival of this server comes down to the owner and the developers. There are stuff Senior Staff can do but unfortunately it's not as though we can click our fingers and get things fixed in a second. There is still time to fix this place but we all have to work together. In the next community update I'll be addressing this a bit better.

My points:
- Please don't make assumptions about whose doing and who isn't doing stuff. You guys don't see what we do. 
- We stopped advertising because of a few big issues. Until we can fix them there is no point advertising as we can't keep players and they'll just leave.
- Have faith please. We've been in this cycle for like almost 2 years now and it has been a lot worse than what it currently is. There is still time

Then why are devs focusing on new ts plugins instead of fixing things?

They aren't focusing everything on ts.

It's just Austin taking his time to help me work on Teamspeak cuz none of the admins nor seniors like to contribute to the development of Teamspeak. This was an idea suggested to us by a player (whomI will not name) and we decided to see how it would work out.

Regarding the bugs, the devs are fixing things

just you wait

Maybe take back the voting system? People were able to vote on different sites in order to gain some Credits daily. It would maybe get some players.

Maybe if credits were actually worth something