{SPOILER ALERT, BEWARE} Star Wars 7 by BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
SPOILER, TURN BACK! SPOILER, TURN BACK! SPOILER, TURN BACK!Hey! One of the greatest Star Wars movies ever created came out recently. Many fans have been aggravated by the death of one of the most symbolic characters of the franchise, Han Solo. In my opinion, his death was extremely saddening and i almost, ALMOST cried when the camera showed Chewbacca see his best friend get speared. Luckily, Kylo got his ____ shot off, and got his legs and face cut up which helped a little. To be honest though, it was a nice touch having such a big character (whose actor doesn't even like being Han lol) be killed off. I loved the hell out of him, but all legends must come to an end. I hope next movie, Kylo goes insane due to "hearing and seeing and feeling" his father's presence. Have him become a monster-lunatic. :D
What were your opinions on the death of Han Solo?
What do you rate the movie?
Predictions for the next movies?
Fun Fact: Disney has decided to make another prequel to Star Wars "A New Hope" for those who don't know. The movie is going to be about the rebel team that retrieved the Death Star plans, which will then lead into the oldest of them all, A New Hope. Hype!
GrapeSmoothie December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
yasAIDSquirt December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Good job with the spoiler alerts <3 I don't believe Han Solo is dead though... if you think about it, they never showed his death. And do you know how much HYPE it would bring if he came back? Star Wars has also pulled some stuff like that before, Darth Maul wasn't really dead, etc.10/10
Luke is gonna die, Han Solo will come back in 8th or 9th
DaGoldBrick December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
I had to watch the movie 3 times 3 days in a row since the 17th lmao ripHan Solo's death wasn't that disappointing for me.
1 thing that annoys me is that Rey literally masters the force in 3 minutes and then beats a trained sith in a light saber battle with 0 training. Chewbacca also saved the plot completely by shooting Ren and wounding him cos Rey and Fin would've both been shmoked if Ren didn't fight them whilst wounded (even though he should've beaten them EASILY when wounded).
ImNotYourTiger December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
I almost cried as well, but it became funny when chewbacca raged and killed everyone except his friends. But his cry was so sad :(DaGoldBrick December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Good job with the spoiler alerts <3 I don't believe Han Solo is dead though... if you think about it, they never showed his death. And do you know how much HYPE it would bring if he came back? Star Wars has also pulled some stuff like that before, Darth Maul wasn't really dead, etc.10/10Luke is gonna die, Han Solo will come back in 8th or 9th
AutoHit December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
What was your opinions on the death of Han Solo?It was needed for Kylo Ren to have character development. He had to die for Kylo Ren to completely turn over to the dark side, to knock off all ties related to him and his family for him to become a true Sith.
What do you rate the movie?
9.23/10
Predictions for the next movies?
REY IS LUKES DAUGHTER. When Kylo Ren was torturing Rey for the map of Luke Skywalker, it showed the island you later find out about where he was. And he says this: "Han Solo. He's like the father you never had, he would disappoint you." Why did he talk about fathers? Who was on that island? Luke Skywalker. And he said that to Rey, who, would be Luke Skywalkers daughter.
Anything else?
Kylo Ren lost to Rey because 1. He was shot by Chewbacca after Han Solo was stabbed to death by Kylo Ren. 2. Finn got a few hits on him. If it was a normal fight, Kylo Ren would of won.
ALSO
Han Solo is DEAD. After he fell down, Leia sensed him being killed. And yes, it could of been from Kylo Ren completely turning over to the dark side. But, Leia sensed him being killed.
ALSO
When Rey touched Anakins Skywalkers lightsaber, she got memories. There you could see the Knights of Ren as they killed a padawan who had the tube hat on his head. I think Kylo Ren got other padawans to help him destroy the Jedi Order, who are, the Knights of Ren.
GuyNamedRiley December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
What were your opinions on the death of Han Solo?I'm gonna agree with Bennett here and say that it was a good thing, because it advances the character of Kylo Ren a lot more and it helped give a really good plot twist. Star wars doesn't have many big plot twists, (other than Vader being Luke's father) and I was kind of glad to see this one.
What do you rate the movie? 9.25/10
Predictions for the next movies?
Nope just going to remained hyped!
AIDSquirt December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Darth Maul had limbs cut off, Han was stabbed through a vital organ and had no force powers to stop his fall, then the planet exploded lol
GuyNamedRiley December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
(I'm gonna butcher the spelling) Qui Gon Jinn was stabbed in about the same place and lived until Obi-Wan was done fighting Darth Maul, Anakin had half his body cut off and burned for a long time and he lived. There were also a million ships flying around that planet, who knows where he even fell. There's hope!
DaGoldBrick December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
(I'm gonna butcher the spelling) Qui Gon Jinn was stabbed in about the same place and lived until Obi-Wan was done fighting Darth Maul, Anakin had half his body cut off and burned for a long time and he lived. There were also a million ships flying around that planet, who knows where he even fell. There's hope!
Han Solo is a smuggler
BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
I had to watch the movie 3 times 3 days in a row since the 17th lmao rip
Han Solo's death wasn't that disappointing for me.
1 thing that annoys me is that Rey literally masters the force in 3 minutes and then beats a trained sith in a light saber battle with 0 training. Chewbacca also saved the plot completely by shooting Ren and wounding him cos Rey and Fin would've both been shmoked if Ren didn't fight them whilst wounded (even though he should've beaten them EASILY when wounded).
There's a rumour going around saying Rey knew how to control the force when she was younger, but her mind was erased by Kylo. Not sure if it's true, but meh.
I was so confused when Kylo started smacking his stomach. Why was he doing that?
ImRaging December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Rey learnt the force really freaking quickly...BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
(I'm gonna butcher the spelling) Qui Gon Jinn was stabbed in about the same place and lived until Obi-Wan was done fighting Darth Maul, Anakin had half his body cut off and burned for a long time and he lived. There were also a million ships flying around that planet, who knows where he even fell. There's hope!
AIDSquirt December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
@GuyNamedRiley Yeah that's what I meant xD@DaGoldBrick I'm just saying it's possible :P
DaGoldBrick December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Chewy shot his poor lil; wee off. xd
There's a rumour going around saying Rey knew how to control the force when she was younger, but her mind was erased by Kylo. Not sure if it's true, but meh.
I was so confused when Kylo started smacking his stomach. Why was he doing that?
Btw I would love it if they made movies on the non cannon stuff, I'd love to see character development for sith lords such as King Adas, Naga Sadow or Darth Nihilus.
BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Could be true, there was a scene that showed Luke flying away from her when she was young (going to assume it was Luke as she even has his pilot helmet). Even still she shouldn't have force mastery as a child.
Btw I would love it if they made movies on the non cannon stuff, I'd love to see character development for sith lords such as King Adas, Naga Sadow or Darth Nihilus.
Dyspa December 20, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
I'm ok with the spoilers. Haven't seen any Star Wars, xd.Coco_stag December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
I'm ok with the spoilers. Haven't seen any Star Wars, xd.
AutoHit December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Could be true, there was a scene that showed Luke flying away from her when she was young (going to assume it was Luke as she even has his pilot helmet). Even still she shouldn't have force mastery as a child.
Btw I would love it if they made movies on the non cannon stuff, I'd love to see character development for sith lords such as King Adas, Naga Sadow or Darth Nihilus.
Dyspa December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Darth Maul had limbs cut off, Han was stabbed through a vital organ and had no force powers to stop his fall, then the planet exploded lol
BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Didn't you say you got your name from a Star Wars game?
AyyJake December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
*cough cough* You saw me say about creating a thread like this *cough cough*BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
*cough cough* You saw me say about creating a thread like this *cough cough*
Robin_DD_J December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
What were your opinions on the death of Han Solo?Kinda don't like it, that man was a c00l dude.
What do you rate the movie?
8/10. The fact that she got the force to her so quick was kinda weird, but it at the same time made sense seeing as she was kind of "immune" to the lad.
Predictions for the next movies?
next or the 2nd: Luke will die for someone, the trooper lad will lead a good damn force. Yoda will appear as a ghost. That monster in the chair (dark side lad) is probably linked with yoda.
Numberz_ December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Haven't seen it, don't want to now. Thanks!AyyJake December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Nope, lol. When did you say that?
Midnightstorm December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Rey has to be related to Luke in some way, shape, or form.AyyJake December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
What were your opinions on the death of Han Solo?
Kinda don't like it, that man was a c00l dude.
What do you rate the movie?
8/10. The fact that she got the force to her so quick was kinda weird, but it at the same time made sense seeing as she was kind of "immune" to the lad.
Predictions for the next movies?
next or the 2nd: Luke will die for someone, the trooper lad will lead a good damn force. Yoda will appear as a ghost. That monster in the chair (dark side lad) is probably linked with yoda.
and I don't really like the fact that they made Rey know EVERYTHING about the millennium falcon. She basically showed Han Solo up on his own ship.
how did she even learn all of that?
BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
The dude in the chair is Sumpreme leader snoke.
and I don't really like the fact that they made Rey know EVERYTHING about the millennium falcon. She basically showed Han Solo up on his own ship.
how did she even learn all of that?
AyyJake December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
She has literally been working on ships, ship parts, etc. for nearly her entire life, lol. xD
I don't know
kycrafft December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Good job with the spoiler alerts <3 I don't believe Han Solo is dead though... if you think about it, they never showed his death. And do you know how much HYPE it would bring if he came back? Star Wars has also pulled some stuff like that before, Darth Maul wasn't really dead, etc.10/10Luke is gonna die, Han Solo will come back in 8th or 9th
People like Darth Maul and Anakin Skywalker were able to survive being killed by feeding off the dark side energies.
BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
But those ships don't work so how did she know what each piece did? Those ships haven't worked for like 25 years
I don't know
Rey was a scavenger who found all sorts of things on her adventures such as broken down or even running ships so it seems fitting. :P
DaGoldBrick December 20, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
Han Solo is dead.
People like Darth Maul and Anakin Skywalker were able to survive being killed by feeding off the dark side energies.
Petlas December 20, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
https://www.instagram.com/p/_hs9QFhsvN/Bye.
NotGurk December 20, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
6/10 at best. Surprised everyone actually seemed to enjoy it a lot more than I did..- Copy and Paste of A New Hope down to the canteen
- General "Snooke" Is 1, a stupid ass name, and 2 just another Emperor ripoff
- The head of the First Order is just a terrible cast for the role, in comparison the guy thats standing directly behind him when he's giving his Nazi Speech should have been the General
- 20 X Wings destroy another planet sized base. Are you kidding me? That massive thing can be easily destroyed by some fighters? Seriously? Who's the engineer behind these bases?
- Why is the Rebellion called the Rebellion? What are the rebelling against?? They WON THE WAR. They are supposed to be the REPUBLIC. That very much pissed me off. C'mon.
- The trained badass elite sith lord is easily taken down by a girl with no training whatsoever.. really..
- This one really gets me. How does the stormtrooper betray the Empire? I mean, isn't he supposed to be brainwashed or mentally programmed to obey any command no matter what? Also if thats not the case, Why didn't any other stormtroopers rebel after they presumed that what they were doing is "bad". Might I also add the new uniforms for the troopers are terrible, and they should have just kept the original stormtrooper ones.
- If R2D2 hadn't pouted when Luke left Han Solo wouldn't have died
Some Things I liked
- How they brang back Leia, Solo, and Luke set a smile on my face
- Lots of comedy which gave a nice lighthearted warm feeling that brang a more personal connection with the characters
- Epic battle scenes. Amazing cinematography.
- New TIE Fighter design is great
D3PvP December 20, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
I feel left oout aswell as I should have not looked on here atleast I didn't read everything!BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
6/10 at best. Surprised everyone actually seemed to enjoy it a lot more than I did..
- Copy and Paste of A New Hope down to the canteen
- General "Snooke" Is 1, a stupid ass name, and 2 just another Emperor ripoff
- The head of the First Order is just a terrible cast for the role, in comparison the guy thats standing directly behind him when he's giving his Nazi Speech should have been the General
- 20 X Wings destroy another planet sized base. Are you kidding me? That massive thing can be easily destroyed by some fighters? Seriously? Who's the engineer behind these bases?
- Why is the Rebellion called the Rebellion? What are the rebelling against?? They WON THE WAR. They are supposed to be the REPUBLIC. That very much pissed me off. C'mon.
- The trained badass elite sith lord is easily taken down by a girl with no training whatsoever.. really..
- This one really gets me. How does the stormtrooper betray the Empire? I mean, isn't he supposed to be brainwashed or mentally programmed to obey any command no matter what? Also if thats not the case, Why didn't any other stormtroopers rebel after they presumed that what they were doing is "bad". Might I also add the new uniforms for the troopers are terrible, and they should have just kept the original stormtrooper ones.
- If R2D2 hadn't pouted when Luke left Han Solo wouldn't have died
Some Things I liked
- How they brang back Leia, Solo, and Luke set a smile on my face
- Lots of comedy which gave a nice lighthearted warm feeling that brang a more personal connection with the characters
- Epic battle scenes. Amazing cinematography.
- New TIE Fighter design is great
Remember, Poe is the best pilot in the Resistance and keep in mind Chewy, Hon, Finn, and Rey helped a crap ton to destroy it.
BoldAndBrash December 20, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Did anyone else feel lie their was a connection between Finn and the Stormy that brought out that taser sword thing? I just found it strange how the stormy recognized Finn. :p_Nathy December 20, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
I give it a 7/10I actually enjoyed it better than i thought.
Issues:
I felt like it was episode 4 all over again:
*Droid on desert planet with secret plans(surprised it wasnt Tatooine personally)
*"Piece of garbage"-Falcon(C'mon thats a bullshit reference)
*Those octopus things that look incredibly like the thing in the garbage chute from episode 4.
*Boba Fett V2 or Captain Phasma, whichever you prefer. What happens to her. Is she supposed to be some Elite person? Cause she goes down like a chump and then gets cut out of the movie because..... Screw it, we ran out of funding to add another scene of her in?
*They bring back Akbar and that bloke who was with Han in the Falcon in ROTJ simply because they want you to be like, "OMG its them again!"
How the Falcon stays in one piece when Rey takes off is beyond me. AT first I was expecting a glass window to break, or maybe some wires/ parts/ maybe something in the cupboard to fall over or break but then I gave up thinking that stupid realistic idea.
*I love how the Falcon is just sitting there-the power of convenience.....
*Ok, so we learn later the OP pilot dude survives and was ejected from the crashing ship. But he lost his jacket? Um how was he stripped of his jacket and thrown miles away?
*The little floaty ball that Fin chucks away(The thing luke practiced with in Episode 4)
How the fuck did Han and Chewie find the Falcon?(Han said that he knew who stole it, ok maybe he didnt know who stole it from who when, but he was flying around the planet when they were flying away. So...... Too hard to steal back when its just sitting in the open, fuck it wait till its moving and could leave the planet when we're not watching?)
*That stupid 1000 year old woman who is there simply to advance the plot. What happens to her? They forgot to add a scene where she died or escaped, they just cut her out of the following shots. I feel as though her back story wouldve been more interesting.
*More on the old woman, how did she find the lightsaber? She left the bar to go get it herself? She knew where to go? I doubt that. Ok it implies that she knows the force, lets go out on a limb and say she is force sensitive. Ok, she trained herself? She could sense an object so.....imbued with the force? If she could sense it WHY DID LUKE OR KYLO NEVER GO AFTER IT?!
*The Rey learning the force bullshit annoyed me. They did that to Luke a lot in the original movies, but he had the duration of 3/4 years throught episodes 4,5 and 6 to master the force, as well as the help from Yoda and Obi Wan. But all she had to help her/hint her was the fact that Kylo Ren was having trouble sensing her thoughts. How did she know how to mind trick, come on. 30 minutes beforehand she just realised that the force and Jedi were true. Where did she learn about the Jedi, the only relationships she ever has were to the woman she cleaned parts with and the food for parts dude.
*AND THEN SHE SMASHED KYLO?! That would be like saying that Darth Maul would lose to a youngling. And the youngling would have more training with the force than her.
*The stormtrooper said that he had been taken from his family to become a trooper. Didn't his family give him a name? I dunno....Steve, Jacob, Mitch?
*Finn Lives?! Yes with a massive gash down his back and multiple stabs. Well Kylo survives this as well i suppose. But if this is the case with all lighsaber wounds, why didn't those 3 Jedi Masters with Mace Windu that Sidious killed just get back up and be like "Bitch, that weapon can't keep us down"
I could go on as there were so many cheap scenes, references and continuity errors, but to me the only things that could set this apart as a movie with as high of a reputation as Star Wars are:
Rey's character introduction-They introduced her well, how she lived, how she has come to live here, her determination, where she fitted in to the society. It made me care about her character.
That final scene where you see Luke, the scene and the iconic soundtrack- ok that is probably the best set up for the next movie i have ever seen
And Han Solo carrying most of the movie-Great acting, dialogue and where he fits in and what he does throughtout the movie and yes he is dead, as mentioned before-Leia senses it.
AIDSquirt December 20, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
Han Solo is dead.
People like Darth Maul and Anakin Skywalker were able to survive being killed by feeding off the dark side energies.
BoldAndBrash December 21, 2015 at 12:12 AM UTC
Maybe, but they didn't show him actually die. ;)
Although, directors DO do everything for a reason...they never really showed Han's corpse or anything...eh.
StickilasFanboy December 21, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
What if Han Solo turned the light saber on himself? His son asked for help to turn good... and Han's hand was on the lightsaber? What if that was the start to him getting better???!!??AtditC December 21, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
Disney is the biggest **** I've ever seenIt ruined Clone Wars and now it wants to ruin Star Wars Episodes too
BoldAndBrash December 21, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
What if Han Solo turned the light saber on himself? His son asked for help to turn good... and Han's hand was on the lightsaber? What if that was the start to him getting better???!!??
kycrafft December 21, 2015 at 4:12 PM UTC
Maybe, but they didn't show him actually die. ;)
AtditC December 21, 2015 at 4:12 PM UTC
Captain Ackbar
AIDSquirt December 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
That's true, but the only way for him to be alive is if he's secretly a Sith Lord
BoldAndBrash December 21, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
That's true, but the only way for him to be alive is if he's secretly a Sith Lord
awesome_apricot December 21, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
The one thing that annoys me about the whole franchise is how Darth Maul was killed off so early. He was so freakin cool let's be honest he looked and was better than vader 100%Spartemex December 21, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
I really liked the movie, I thought it was good how the gave Kylo a face, and the special effects, story line, powers, and nations were all pretty sweet.Fun Fact: Up until this movie, all the Star Wars movies had had someone's arm get cut off.
AtditC December 21, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
I really liked the movie, I thought it was good how the gave Kylo a face, and the special effects, story line, powers, and nations were all pretty sweet.
Fun Fact: Up until this movie, all the Star Wars movies had had someone's arm get cut off.
Wahiz December 21, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
The one thing that annoys me about the whole franchise is how Darth Maul was killed off so early. He was so freakin cool let's be honest he looked and was better than vader 100%
Emmaye December 21, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
Apparently the Knights of Ren want to get Vader resurrected, but it may have been a rumor.As for the next movie, I think there will be more character development and will have flashbacks too.
I think Kylo is a cool guy and all but they really didn't need to show his face so early, he looks like some teenage shut-in. Funny how he threw tantrums though.
Porkyyy December 28, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Just watched the movie!It was great, there has to be another movie though.
I'm assuming the captain and Kylo escaped before the planet escaped though, since they had to get to that one evil master guy to continue his training or something.
Anyways, loved it, can't wait for #8!
BoldAndBrash December 28, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
I really liked the movie, I thought it was good how the gave Kylo a face, and the special effects, story line, powers, and nations were all pretty sweet.
Fun Fact: Up until this movie, all the Star Wars movies had had someone's arm get cut off.
Thomas_Shoe December 28, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Hans Solo DiesIron December 28, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Rey is Luke's daughter, its not that hard to piece together.Asides from that, I'm willing to bet that she was Luke's best padawan until Kylo Ren turned evil and killed everyone. Luke probably erased her memory which is why she has no clue about the force, although she is very good at using it.
Also the movies are following the EXACT same story arc and development as Episodes 4, 5, and 6. The next movie (Episode 8: Rogue Squadron) is going to be a lot of character development including the proper training of Rey and it is going to mold Kylo Ren into his most sinister form.
For all the Kylo Ren haters, his taking off of the mask in this movie is a symbol of how he is the first villain in Star Wars (EVER) to be struggling with the dark side. The little bit of light inside of him is what led him to show compassion for the brief moments he did. Personally, I think that quality was Brilliant. JJ Abrams has really outdone himself with the background of Kylo Ren.
Im going to spoil the next movie, and say. Harrison Ford is in it and will be in flashbacks of young Kylo Ren.
DaGoldBrick December 28, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Rey is Luke's daughter, its not that hard to piece together.
Asides from that, I'm willing to bet that she was Luke's best padawan until Kylo Ren turned evil and killed everyone. Luke probably erased her memory which is why she has no clue about the force, although she is very good at using it.
Also the movies are following the EXACT same story arc and development as Episodes 4, 5, and 6. The next movie (Episode 8: Rogue Squadron) is going to be a lot of character development including the proper training of Rey and it is going to mold Kylo Ren into his most sinister form.
For all the Kylo Ren haters, his taking off of the mask in this movie is a symbol of how he is the first villain in Star Wars (EVER) to be struggling with the dark side. The little bit of light inside of him is what led him to show compassion for the brief moments he did. Personally, I think that quality was Brilliant. JJ Abrams has really outdone himself with the background of Kylo Ren.
Im going to spoil the next movie, and say. Harrison Ford is in it and will be in flashbacks of young Kylo Ren.
Iron December 28, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Yeah he beat Rey in the head with a baton to erase her memory
piratewithgun December 29, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
I thought solos death was needed, he was getting too old nglI drove up to my mates house at 4:30am to marathon through all 6 films before heading to the cinema for the final one and getting home the next day at 1am. That's dedication or?
did I forget to say we all dressed up? Maybe we went to far...
AutoHit December 29, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
Rogue Squadron is NOT Episode 8. It is in the middle of 3 and 4 of how the Rebels got the plans to the Death Star.BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
Rogue Squadron is NOT Episode 8. It is in the middle of 3 and 4 of how the Rebels got the plans to the Death Star.
AstroPizza December 29, 2015 at 9:12 AM UTC
I feel han solo himself is getting too old to go on a most likely asked to be killed of xDYou could see in the film in my opinion he looked like he needed a rest :P
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 1:12 PM UTC
Honestly, I thought the movie was brilliant, but something about it means that I still prefer the originals.There are implications that Rey is Luke's daughter. The fact that the scene where she took Anakin's lightsaber (in the exact same way Luke summoned it - minus an angry Wampa), the fact that she was able to overpower Kylo Ren (who had one force sensitive parent - Leia - while Rey has at least one force sensitive parent and potentially 2. Finally, in the Disney Infinity game, Kylo Ren refers to Rey as "cousin". Interpret that as you will but to me that indicates that she's Luke's daughter. Therefore, I'm not particularly surprised that Rey was stronger than Kylo Ren, considering that Luke's connection to the Force appears to be - for the moment - stronger than Leia's.
I was a bit disappointed by the choreography. It felt way too slow and simplistic after the prequels. Even the originals had faster fight scenes, especially when it came to lightsaber fights.
Honestly, I had a feeling Han Solo was going to die. They showed him so much in the movie, and Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to die after episode 5. I'm not really surprised.
What annoyed me about the film was that they took the plot directly out of one of the books. In the now non-canon lore, Leia and Han had three children (Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, and Anakin Solo). All of them were Jedi, and Jacen turned to the dark side. He then killed Luke's now non-canon wife, Mara Jade Skywalker, who was once a now non-canon agent of Darth Sidious.
Anyway, The movie ripped off of this storyline, but it decided to change the child's name to Ben (who's Luke Skywalker's now non-canon son, Ben Skywalker) instead of Jacen. They also replaced Mara Jade's death with Han Solo's, because of reasons already stated
Because of the plot being an essential rip-off, and the rather poor choreography, I don't think it was the best Star Wars movie ever, but it was certainly better than the prequels, with the possible exception of Episode 3 (love that movie, even if some of the acting was awful and a fair bit of the dialogue was horrific. The action scenes are virtually unparalleled in the Star Wars franchise and the plot was amazing).
Therefore, The Force Awakens gets 8-9/10.
Still hoping for the return of Mace Windu, though. One can hope. xD
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 1:12 PM UTC
Rogue Squadron is NOT Episode 8. It is in the middle of 3 and 4 of how the Rebels got the plans to the Death Star.
You should try it out. It's on the DS and PSP, but it's actually a great game.
BmB December 29, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
fking hell people are reading way too deep into this. The star wars franchise are meant to be fun and have never followed a plausible plot, that's kinda the point. Good beats bad no matter the odds stop circle jerking each other and enjoy the film.(jeff's a nerd)
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
fking hell people are reading way too deep into this. The star wars franchise are meant to be fun and have never followed a plausible plot, that's kinda the point. Good beats bad no matter the odds stop circle jerking each other and enjoy the film.
(jeff's a nerd)
Very cheerful, I must say. =P xD
BmB December 29, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
Riiiight, Star Wars is meant to be oodles of fun, you know, apart from the mass murder in Episode 4 (when Alderann is blown up), the deaths of several Imperial officers through strangulation in Episode 5 (courtesy of Vader), the cannibal teddy bear Ewoks in Episode 6, the concentration camps in Episode 1, the cannon fodder soldiers of Episode 2, and the genocide of the Jedi in Episode 3, along with the cold blooded culling of dozens of kids by the protagonist.
Very cheerful, I must say. =P xD
Spartemex December 29, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
I thought solos death was needed, he was getting too old ngl
I drove up to my mates house at 4:30am to marathon through all 6 films before heading to the cinema for the final one and getting home the next day at 1am. That's dedication or?
did I forget to say we all dressed up? Maybe we went to far...
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
Honestly, I thought the movie was brilliant, but something about it means that I still prefer the originals.
There are implications that Rey is Luke's daughter. The fact that the scene where she took Anakin's lightsaber (in the exact same way Luke summoned it - minus an angry Wampa), the fact that she was able to overpower Kylo Ren (who had one force sensitive parent - Leia - while Rey has at least one force sensitive parent and potentially 2. Finally, in the Disney Infinity game, Kylo Ren refers to Rey as "cousin". Interpret that as you will but to me that indicates that she's Luke's daughter. Therefore, I'm not particularly surprised that Rey was stronger than Kylo Ren, considering that Luke's connection to the Force appears to be - for the moment - stronger than Leia's.
I was a bit disappointed by the choreography. It felt way too slow and simplistic after the prequels. Even the originals had faster fight scenes, especially when it came to lightsaber fights.
Honestly, I had a feeling Han Solo was going to die. They showed him so much in the movie, and Harrison Ford wanted Han Solo to die after episode 5. I'm not really surprised.
What annoyed me about the film was that they took the plot directly out of one of the books. In the now non-canon lore, Leia and Han had three children (Jaina Solo, Jacen Solo, and Anakin Solo). All of them were Jedi, and Jacen turned to the dark side. He then killed Luke's now non-canon wife, Mara Jade Skywalker, who was once a now non-canon agent of Darth Sidious.
Anyway, The movie ripped off of this storyline, but it decided to change the child's name to Ben (who's Luke Skywalker's now non-canon son, Ben Skywalker) instead of Jacen. They also replaced Mara Jade's death with Han Solo's, because of reasons already stated
Because of the plot being an essential rip-off, and the rather poor choreography, I don't think it was the best Star Wars movie ever, but it was certainly better than the prequels, with the possible exception of Episode 3 (love that movie, even if some of the acting was awful and a fair bit of the dialogue was horrific. The action scenes are virtually unparalleled in the Star Wars franchise and the plot was amazing).
Therefore, The Force Awakens gets 8-9/10.
Still hoping for the return of Mace Windu, though. One can hope. xD
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
That's what i meant to add on the second trilogy was awful because it tried to be too serious and too far in depth. The first 3 had a fun kind of atmosphere and i liked this one because it also had it.
Lol, not that cheerful.
And by the way, Episode 3 wasn't that bad. People just stereotype it, and most of these people who claim they're not better than the originals haven't even watched the originals, they're just jumping on the bandwagon.
Episode 3 had awesome fight scenes that put 4,5,6 and 7 to shame, a great plot-line, and some of the most popular actors of that time, namely Ian Mcdiarmid, Samuel L Jackson, and Ewan Mcgregor (Sidious, Windu, Obi Wan).
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
Having Rey as Luke's daughter would be stupid, as they've literally already done the same for Kylo and Han. We don't need anymore of that. I'd much rather have it that she was powerful in the force and the sole survivor of Kylo's purge and she got her mind wiped to make it harder for Kylo to find her.
Btw, that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Why wouldn't her family stay with her? Simple: Luke went into exile because he was ashamed. Rey would just remind him of his failure.
The pieces all fit together. =/
I'd rather Samuel L Jackson/Mace Windu came back, even as a force ghost.
"I've had it with these mother****ing fools in this mother****ing franchise!"
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
Ummmm...Cannibal 'teddy bear' Ewoks? Planets being blown up? People being strangled to death?
Lol, not that cheerful.
And by the way, Episode 3 wasn't that bad. People just stereotype it, and most of these people who claim they're not better than the originals haven't even watched the originals, they're just jumping on the bandwagon.
Episode 3 had awesome fight scenes that put 4,5,6 and 7 to shame, a great plot-line, and some of the most popular actors of that time, namely Ian Mcdiarmid, Samuel L Jackson, and Ewan Mcgregor (Sidious, Windu, Obi Wan).
If you actually try to notice the at oshpher of the Star Wars movies (especially 4) you notice that it's like a group of friends going on a serious adventure, like Scooby Doo. BmB doesn't mean the actual movies are suppose to be jolly, he's referring to the feeling of the movie.
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
Well, they've already changed it so Ben isn't Luke's son.
Btw, that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Why wouldn't her family stay with her? Simple: Luke went into exile because he was ashamed. Rey would just remind him of his failure.
The pieces all fit together. =/
I'd rather Samuel L Jackson/Mace Windu came back, even as a force ghost.
"I've had it with these mother****ing fools in this mother****ing franchise!"
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
They weren't cannibals. A cannibal is someone/thing that eats it's on species.
If you actually try to notice the at oshpher of the Star Wars movies (especially 4) you notice that it's like a group of friends going on a serious adventure, like Scooby Doo. BmB doesn't mean the actual movies are suppose to be jolly, he's referring to the feeling of the movie.
The point is still there, nonetheless. At the end of 6, they had the helmets of dead stormtroopers, but no bodies. They also tried to eat roasted Rebels
And 4, 5 and 6 weren't exactly the most cheerful films. 4 began with someone being strangled/having their neck broken, while the atmosphere was kind of mired by the fact that Obi Wan died, and that for all of the jolliness of their escape, it occurred while Alderann was being blown up and millions died. I wouldn't call that silly. It's quite a serious atmosphere they created.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
Windu wouldn't know how to turn into a ghost since it was Qui Gon who taught Yoda and Obi Wan about it and for some reason, Anakin knew how to do it too, lol.
And The Clone Wars left so many plot holes in regards to that. Last I checked, it would be a bit difficult for Obi Wan to travel to the planet that Yoda learnt how to become a ghost on, considering he sold Grievous' ship for safe passage to Tatooine and he couldn't exactly go around the galaxy, nor could he easily travel to Korriban. I know that Obi Wan is one of the most powerful and skilled Jedi (only surpassed by Anakin, Mace, and Yoda in power/skill), but I highly doubt he'd be strong enough to resist the Dark Side on Korriban.
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
My mistake, I mixed up carnivores and cannibals. xD
The point is still there, nonetheless. At the end of 6, they had the helmets of dead stormtroopers, but no bodies. They also tried to eat roasted Rebels
And 4, 5 and 6 weren't exactly the most cheerful films. 4 began with someone being strangled/having their neck broken, while the atmosphere was kind of mired by the fact that Obi Wan died, and that for all of the jolliness of their escape, it occurred while Alderann was being blown up and millions died. I wouldn't call that silly. It's quite a serious atmosphere they created.
Windu's death is canon and I don't think he'd decide to appear as a ghost now, when he could've appeared literally 30 years ago to help Luke with Obi Wan and Yoda, haha.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
This will sound messed up, but I sincerely doubt people in the theaters were staring in horror at the ewoks using helmets as bongos. In fact, I was laughing quite a bit when I saw that. :^)
Windu's death is canon and I don't think he'd decide to appear as a ghost now, when he could've appeared literally 30 years ago to help Luke with Obi Wan and Yoda, haha.
It's not too much of a stretch to contemplate the possibility that Windu could have landed on one of the speeders that whizz around Coruscant. Plus, if he survived he may have gone into exile as per his failure to destroy Sidious, as Yoda did.
Even if he didn't, he may have become a force ghost. If Anakin could do so, then Windu could as well, considering how strong in the force Windu was and how he was the second strongest user of the light, who was so skilled he turned his darkness into light (look up Vaapad if you want to know more).
Plus, it would be a bit difficult for him to help in training Luke, considering that the character wasn't created until about 30 years later, haha.
Finally, the funny thing about canon is that it changes all of the time. You've seen how Disney have swept almost 50 years of lore under the rug. Maul's death was canon, yet he's still alive after the Clone Wars show ended (read "Son of Dathomir").
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
There's a theme in Star Wars: If a character's body is not shown, then they're not dead.
It's not too much of a stretch to contemplate the possibility that Windu could have landed on one of the speeders that whizz around Coruscant. Plus, if he survived he may have gone into exile as per his failure to destroy Sidious, as Yoda did.
Even if he didn't, he may have become a force ghost. If Anakin could do so, then Windu could as well, considering how strong in the force Windu was and how he was the second strongest user of the light, who was so skilled he turned his darkness into light (look up Vaapad if you want to know more).
Plus, it would be a bit difficult for him to help in training Luke, considering that the character wasn't created until about 30 years later, haha.
Finally, the funny thing about canon is that it changes all of the time. You've seen how Disney have swept almost 50 years of lore under the rug. Maul's death was canon, yet he's still alive after the Clone Wars show ended (read "Son of Dathomir").
Wouldn't that mean a crap load of Jedi are still alive then?
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
"There's a theme in Star Wars: If a character's body is not shown, then they're not dead."
Wouldn't that mean a crap load of Jedi are still alive then?
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
...No? It's been shown that they all died. I'm talking about a specific character, not a group of anonymous characters. If you know one character that was in the movies but who you didn't see die in the movies, please tell me. I didn't see Maul die, and he survived. I didn't see Windu die, but he may have survived.
You could argue that Palpatine is still alive since you never saw his corpse, even though it was incinerated in some sort of engine thing. The "you don't see there dead body means they aren't dead" point is invalid.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
No, it hasn't. It showed a few clips of well known Jedi die, but that sure as hell isn't all of them, so it isn't really valid.
You could argue that Palpatine is still alive since you never saw his corpse, even though it was incinerated in some sort of engine thing. The "you don't see there dead body means they aren't dead" point is invalid.
Stop taking what I said out of context. The explosion when he was thrown down the shaft was him exploding, whereas Maul and Windu didn't exactly explode, did they? No, they did not. It just showed them falling, then cut to another scene. Thus, Windu could still be alive.
As I stated, name one Jedi from the movies who did not die in the movies. Because Disney wiped out the EU, you could assume the only Jedi in the whole Jedi Order are the ones shown in the movies and the TV shows. It's preposterous and untrue, but in that case then you have to consider the possibility of Windu surviving. If something is possible, then you have to consider other possibilities. It's possible that there are other Jedi in the order. It's also possible that Windu survived.
Rubikscrafter December 29, 2015 at 4:12 PM UTC
Opinion on Han Solo's death: LAME. I'm sorry but it was obvious that he HAD to die by his son's hand. So there's that. But why was it so obvious when Han went to Kylo Ren on the bridge, and Kylo said that he wanted to get away from the dark side, that he was lying? I saw it coming from the moment that Han walked onto the bridge. And when both Kylo and Han had the saber in their hands, it didn't surprise me that Kylo faked and turned on the saber and killed Han. And they way he fell into the pit underneath was a bit better, how it showed that he still loved his son, even after he was impaled. But the parts leading up to Han getting killed were obvious, a bit too obvious. Still, like AutoHit said, it was needed for Kylo's character development. But I thought that there would be a bit more to him killing his father, not just a classic fake.Rating: 9/10. Some things (like ^) were a bit disappointing, but over all a great movie. And that ending tho.
Predictions: Idk. I just want to see it xD.
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 4:12 PM UTC
Actually, it's not invalid. After Episode 6, there was a story arc where Palpatine came back in a new body, destroyed a fleet of warships with a wormhole, then was killed by Luke, Leia and Leia's child Anakin.
Stop taking what I said out of context. The explosion when he was thrown down the shaft was him exploding, whereas Maul and Windu didn't exactly explode, did they? No, they did not. It just showed them falling, then cut to another scene. Thus, Windu could still be alive.
As I stated, name one Jedi from the movies who did not die in the movies. Because Disney wiped out the EU, you could assume the only Jedi in the whole Jedi Order are the ones shown in the movies and the TV shows. It's preposterous and untrue, but in that case then you have to consider the possibility of Windu surviving. If something is possible, then you have to consider other possibilities. It's possible that there are other Jedi in the order. It's also possible that Windu survived.
Even if Windu were to have survived, he would've died before Luke met Yoda because Yoda said himself he is the sole survivor of the Jedi, so Mace wouldn't, and won't appear again.
This_Name_Is_ December 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM UTC
I think like sum rebel fighter pulled off that clutch thing again were he lands on the top of a ship (luke perviously done it when VADER cut his arm off)Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM UTC
I'm not taking anything out of context. You said if you don't see them dead, then they aren't. It doesn't matter that Sidious blew up, because hey, we didn't see his dead body!
Even if Windu were to have survived, he would've died before Luke met Yoda because Yoda said himself he is the sole survivor of the Jedi, so Mace wouldn't, and won't appear again.
For the love of cheesepuffs, I've said it a dozen times. He can come back as a force ghost! I'm not saying he's still alive, I'm saying it's not impossible for him to appear in the new trilogy.
Porkyyy December 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM UTC
If someone blows up, and they have clearly died without any possibility of them surviving, then they're dead. You don't hear me arguing that Han Solo could still be alive, even though he's on the cast for Episode 8! That's because he clearly died, so you are taking what I say out of context.
For the love of cheesepuffs, I've said it a dozen times. He can come back as a force ghost! I'm not saying he's still alive, I'm saying it's not impossible for him to appear in the new trilogy.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM UTC
That's true but aren't only jedi's able to appear as a ghost?
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM UTC
That's true but aren't only jedi's able to appear as a ghost?
@myworld He isn't going to appear in any of the new movies, considering he wasn't even that important to the story. If he does appear, it'd have no choice. Are you saying that falling 1,000 feet down into void less dark is easy to consider survivable? Nobody thought he was alive until there were EUs and Clone Wars series made for him. Dying from an explosion is obvious, but falling 1000 feet down isn't? /:)
This debate is getting nowhere, so let's stop continuing it.
What at was everyone's opinion on the light saber choreography? I thought it was 10,000 times better than episode 3 fighting, that was disgusting. Backflips and spins and dance moves don't go well in those fights.
Newcleus December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
It's more of a dark side move since you're evading death, so I believe numerous with (all in the EU, so non canon) have appeared as ghosts.
@myworld He isn't going to appear in any of the new movies, considering he wasn't even that important to the story. If he does appear, it'd have no choice. Are you saying that falling 1,000 feet down into void less dark is easy to consider survivable? Nobody thought he was alive until there were EUs and Clone Wars series made for him. Dying from an explosion is obvious, but falling 1000 feet down isn't? /:)
This debate is getting nowhere, so let's stop continuing it.
What at was everyone's opinion on the light saber choreography? I thought it was 10,000 times better than episode 3 fighting, that was disgusting. Backflips and spins and dance moves don't go well in those fights.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
It's more of a dark side move since you're evading death, so I believe numerous with (all in the EU, so non canon) have appeared as ghosts.
@myworld He isn't going to appear in any of the new movies, considering he wasn't even that important to the story. If he does appear, it'd have no choice. Are you saying that falling 1,000 feet down into void less dark is easy to consider survivable? Nobody thought he was alive until there were EUs and Clone Wars series made for him. Dying from an explosion is obvious, but falling 1000 feet down isn't? /:)
This debate is getting nowhere, so let's stop continuing it.
What at was everyone's opinion on the light saber choreography? I thought it was 10,000 times better than episode 3 fighting, that was disgusting. Backflips and spins and dance moves don't go well in those fights.
But you're right, let's drop it.
I preferred Episode 3's fighting. It was too slow in the new one, and the fights in the prequels were more relevant to the EU, with the lightsaber forms and everything. Most forms of fighting look theatrical and melodramatic, but that's usually because there's a point to them, e.g. intimidating the opponent. So no, fighting was better in Episode 3 than 7.
Plus, it was more entertaining. =P
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
The lightsaber battles really triggered me, considering that both of the people that were fighting the sith weren't officially Jedi. Did Rey have the force? Yes, but she had no training and was not identified at all as a Jedi. It's been said before that people other than Jedi really can't fight with a lightsaber, so I don't know why Finn was flinging it around, or how Rey could beat Kylo in a battle when she was untrained and he was conditioned to be a Sith lord.
As I already mentioned, it's been hinted at several times that Rey is Luke's daughter, so naturally her connection to the Force would be stronger. The stronger your powers, the more likely you are to win a lightsaber duel.
Mind you, the fact that she was able to best him in a purely lightsaber orientated duel was completely stupid. Should have called Yoda or Mace Windu. =P
Porkyyy December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
Actually, he was very important to the prequels. It was Windu's constant mistrust in Anakin that influenced him to seek advice from Palps, who as we all know is Sidious. Therefore, Windu was more important than you give him credit for.
But you're right, let's drop it.
I preferred Episode 3's fighting. It was too slow in the new one, and the fights in the prequels were more relevant to the EU, with the lightsaber forms and everything. Most forms of fighting look theatrical and melodramatic, but that's usually because there's a point to them, e.g. intimidating the opponent. So no, fighting was better in Episode 3 than 7.
Plus, it was more entertaining. =P
Episode 3 had the best lightsabre fight scenes by far.
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
Sorry to contradict you, but General Grievous, etc. could fight really well with lightsabers in comparison to Jedi. Lightsabers are essentially really light swords-you don't need special powers to use one, but it does help if the lightsaber forms are still canon.
As I already mentioned, it's been hinted at several times that Rey is Luke's daughter, so naturally her connection to the Force would be stronger. The stronger your powers, the more likely you are to win a lightsaber duel.
Mind you, the fact that she was able to best him in a purely lightsaber orientated duel was completely stupid. Should have called Yoda or Mace Windu. =P
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
Episode 3 fights were shit, they were literally trying their best to hit each other's blades and do as many backflips and ballet spins as possible.
2. The director of the lightsaber fights in the prequels was AIMING for a Kung-Fu styled fight pattern. It'd be a bit stupid for Jedi and Sith, who spend their whole lives training with weapons that are meant to kill, to be little more than thugs who think the only way of winning a lightsaber duel is chopping at the enemy.
If you seriously think that Jedi and Sith at their peaks would fight like Finn (that is to say, like he was falling asleep or trying to cut himself in half), then there is no point to this debate.
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
1. No, they really weren't. They were more similar to actual martial art fights than Episode 7's, which is essentially what lightsaber fights are; a martial arts battle.
2. The director of the lightsaber fights in the prequels was AIMING for a Kung-Fu styled fight pattern. It'd be a bit stupid for Jedi and Sith, who spend their whole lives training with weapons that are meant to kill, to be little more than thugs who think the only way of winning a lightsaber duel is chopping at the enemy.
If you seriously think that Jedi and Sith at their peaks would fight like Finn (that is to say, like he was falling asleep or trying to cut himself in half), then there is no point to this debate.
I ought the duels in the new film were great, and the ones on episode 3 could've used work.
Point not valid, Finn isn't a Jedi.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 6:12 PM UTC
Don't take me wrong, I loved the Episode 1 duel, but episode 3 was just awful. It was just a lot of useful stuff going on in my opinion and a lot of the Jedi went for some moves that were considered bad for the Jedi to do. For example, they went for slashes at the ankles, slashes towards the necks, etc.
I ought the duels in the new film were great, and the ones on episode 3 could've used work.
Point not valid, Finn isn't a Jedi.
You have just contradicted yourself. You're trying to argue that it was more acceptable for the Jedi to kill instead of incapacitating, a fact that is simply not true.
Hell, even the originals had faster and more entertaining fights than the new movie.
Newcleus December 29, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Sorry to contradict you, but General Grievous, etc. could fight really well with lightsabers in comparison to Jedi. Lightsabers are essentially really light swords-you don't need special powers to use one, but it does help if the lightsaber forms are still canon.
As I already mentioned, it's been hinted at several times that Rey is Luke's daughter, so naturally her connection to the Force would be stronger. The stronger your powers, the more likely you are to win a lightsaber duel.
Mind you, the fact that she was able to best him in a purely lightsaber orientated duel was completely stupid. Should have called Yoda or Mace Windu. =P
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Right, but it was stated by Obi-Wan that a lightsaber is a weapon of the force. That's also what frustrated me about Grievous fighting with lightsabers. The statement itself was just contradictory.
Think of it like this: A warrior has a weapon designed specifically for his strengths as a fighter. I can use that weapon and may even be able to use it well, but it's impossible for me to use a lightsaber as well as the owner without the Force or without training.
General Grievous was trained by Count Dooku to kill Jedi. Dooku was also one of the greatest lightsaber masters the Jedi Order had ever produced. He was a master of all forms (like Mace Windu and Yoda) but preferred the style of Makashi. Most of the Jedi that Grievous killed fairly wouldn't last more than a few minutes against Dooku at best. In addition, Grievous had 4 lightsabers, so it'd be nigh impossible for a lightsaber wielder to best him without the Force.
Newcleus December 29, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Lightsabers are described as being a conduit for a Jedi or Sith's power. It requires a force sensitive to build a lightsaber and to use it to its full potential, however it does not mean that non-force sensitives can't use them or use them well.
Think of it like this: A warrior has a weapon designed specifically for his strengths as a fighter. I can use that weapon and may even be able to use it well, but it's impossible for me to use a lightsaber as well as the owner without the Force or without training.
General Grievous was trained by Count Dooku to kill Jedi. Dooku was also one of the greatest lightsaber masters the Jedi Order had ever produced. He was a master of all forms (like Mace Windu and Yoda) but preferred the style of Makashi. Most of the Jedi that Grievous killed fairly wouldn't last more than a few minutes against Dooku at best. In addition, Grievous had 4 lightsabers, so it'd be nigh impossible for a lightsaber wielder to best him without the Force.
rinn December 29, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
They had to put so much make-up on Mark Hamill. ;-;Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
you ruined me
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Actually, you're wrong. Jedi were instructed to always aim to capture, and it was acceptable to dismember if the opponent would live through it. However, they were permitted to kill if the opponent would not surrender.
You have just contradicted yourself. You're trying to argue that it was more acceptable for the Jedi to kill instead of incapacitating, a fact that is simply not true.
Hell, even the originals had faster and more entertaining fights than the new movie.
_DipperPines December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Han Solo is alive.1. They didn't show where specifiCally he got stabbed.
2. When Luke fell in cloud city, he grabbed on to something and lived.
3. Captain Phasma was just "thrown in the trash compacter. She could have lived. She could have saved Han in a tie fighter. She may have had a change in heart because she did not need to lower shields.
4.
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Han Solo is alive.
1. They didn't show where specifiCally he got stabbed.
2. When Luke fell in cloud city, he grabbed on to something and lived.
3. Captain Phasma was just "thrown in the trash compacter. She could have lived. She could have saved Han in a tie fighter. She may have had a change in heart because she did not need to lower shields.
4.
A bit off topic, but anyone notice Phasma didn't shoot a single laser in the entire movie?
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Never said they should kill or that it's the right thing to do, read over it again. I said they tried so hard to hit sabers instead of going for disarming maneuvers. And no, you're wrong, if you look at WookiePedia you'd know that going for apt he ankles or neck is a dishonorable and illegal(?) move for the Jedi.
I'm not wrong, they believed that the enemies of the Republic should stand trial, not be executed. Thus, they preferred to dismember than kill.
So no, I'm not wrong. You are misinformed =P.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Hm...interesting. I just doubt it since the planet crumbled to nothing, but maybe he could've gotten away. I don't think Phasma would have a change of heart though.
A bit off topic, but anyone notice Phasma didn't shoot a single laser in the entire movie?
@ X_Redstone_X: This is the same woman who was fine with killing men, women and children in a small village while they were unarmed. I highly doubt she had a change of heart. Sorry =(.
Although, Ford is in the cast for the next movie, so it's possible.
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Wookiepedia isn't very reliable. Last I checked, before 7 came out, they had a page devoted to Rey being Obi Wan's daughter...Yeah, no.
I'm not wrong, they believed that the enemies of the Republic should stand trial, not be executed. Thus, they preferred to dismember than kill.
So no, I'm not wrong. You are misinformed =P.
I wasn't referring to you being wrong on that part. Once again, I never said they should kill.
I dont knwo know why Ford is in the cast, I thought he wanted his character dead lol!
:8
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
Hm...interesting. I just doubt it since the planet crumbled to nothing, but maybe he could've gotten away. I don't think Phasma would have a change of heart though.
A bit off topic, but anyone notice Phasma didn't shoot a single laser in the entire movie?
"Finn's exceptionally trained...Finn this...Finn that...." xD
BoldAndBrash December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
She was too busy obsessing over Finn xD.
"Finn's exceptionally trained...Finn this...Finn that...." xD
UPDATE: The Internet has created a name for the storm trooper who noticed Finn during the First Order attack. (The one with a spinning taser sword thing who called Finn a "TRAITOR!!!") has been named "TR-8R." Just a funny joke that I read on some YouTube comments, haha.
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
I sense feelings!!1!1!
UPDATE: The Internet has created a name for the storm trooper who noticed Finn during the First Order attack. (The one with a spinning taser sword thing who called Finn a "TRAITOR!!!") has been named "TR-8R." Just a funny joke that I read on some YouTube comments, haha.
"Spinny taser thing". Love your descriptions! xD
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
They had to put so much make-up on Mark Hamill. ;-;
Myworld6 December 29, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
Just because it's editable by everyone doesn't mean it isn't reliable. It's usually true fan nerds that edit that place, and I've read about it on other sites too.
I wasn't referring to you being wrong on that part. Once again, I never said they should kill.
I dont knwo know why Ford is in the cast, I thought he wanted his character dead lol!
:8
Ford wanted Solo to die, he never said he wouldn't star in the new trilogy. =D
steven5703 December 30, 2015 at 5:12 AM UTC
Han Solo is alive.
1. They didn't show where specifiCally he got stabbed.
2. When Luke fell in cloud city, he grabbed on to something and lived.
3. Captain Phasma was just "thrown in the trash compacter. She could have lived. She could have saved Han in a tie fighter. She may have had a change in heart because she did not need to lower shields.
4.
BoldAndBrash December 30, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
If Han Solo really is going to be in the next movies it's going to be flashbacks of him with Kylo when he was younger. His actually character is bound to be dead though, IMO.JoeVC December 30, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
What were your opinions on the death of Han Solo? He was good, but its sadWhat do you rate the movie? 7.5/10 -Originals were better and theoughout the movie you could feel the 'disney-ness' through childish humour.
Predictions for the next movies? Jar Jar Binks is the new emperor and lil'ani gonna be a ghost, chewbacca gonne kill leia and take over the rebel, and john boyega will find out he has a sister who he doesnt know is his sister and have incest, just like luke and leia. BTW REY AND KYLO REN ARE COUSINS ITS BEEN CONFIRMED LOL - REY IS LUKE SKYWALKERS DAUGHTER.
Myworld6 December 30, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
What were your opinions on the death of Han Solo? He was good, but its sad
What do you rate the movie? 7.5/10 -Originals were better and theoughout the movie you could feel the 'disney-ness' through childish humour.
Predictions for the next movies? Jar Jar Binks is the new emperor and lil'ani gonna be a ghost, chewbacca gonne kill leia and take over the rebel, and john boyega will find out he has a sister who he doesnt know is his sister and have incest, just like luke and leia. BTW REY AND KYLO REN ARE COUSINS ITS BEEN CONFIRMED LOL - REY IS LUKE SKYWALKERS DAUGHTER.
2. the OCs will commit suicide when lil' Ani goes "now this is podracing!"
3. More like Leia will kill Chewie and use his fur as a carpet.
4. O_O Not the incest!!!!!!1
5. Told ya =P. Disney Infinity 3.0 videos ftw! xD