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Is TCP No delay allowed? by dentmaged August 8, 2016 at 9:08 PM UTC

Is TCP No delay allowed, it improves ping and was made by Kohi. It's only required for 1.8 (which I use).

If it is allowed, am I also allowed to edit my injectable client (which Posighdun gave me permission to use on Avicus as it adds toggle sprint only) to add the same feature as TCP No delay using JVM Instrumentation (basically I would edit the network manager using Javassist and bytecode manipulation)?

Or8 August 8, 2016 at 9:08 PM UTC

Idk, but I don't think it should be allowed, not only does it improve ping but it modifies your knock back by reducing horizontal and adding on vertical(which means an extra crit) because of the messed up nature's of MC....  It's unfair

dentmaged August 8, 2016 at 9:08 PM UTC

Idk, but I don't think it should be allowed, not only does it improve ping but it modifies your knock back by reducing horizontal and adding on vertical(which means an extra crit) because of the messed up nature's of MC....  It's unfair
In 1.8.8, Mojang changed it so that TCP No delay is true (so it does the same as the mod), so in theory, people w/ 1.8.8 has a bigger advantage than those with 1.8

Tazz August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

Yes it is!

But why don't you just use a normal version lol, no need for your injectable client. I guess you're using agents?

Loo August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

you mean regedit













which everyone uses











maybe use common sense instead

Sevoo August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

you mean regedit













which everyone uses











maybe use common sense instead
theres a mod in 1.7 made by kohi, but they made it an ingame thing in 1.8.8

@OP if the server is 1.8 then what do you think lol

Or8 August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

theres a mod in 1.7 made by kohi, but they made it an ingame thing in 1.8.8

@OP if the server is 1.8 then what do you think lol
O ye I thought I saw that....

dentmaged August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

Yes it is!

But why don't you just use a normal version lol, no need for your injectable client. I guess you're using agents?
Yes, I am using agents. The reason why I don't want to use 1.8 BSM is a) it doesn't work b) i've been told it counts as a hack as it changes packets (where as my client uses reflection to set sprinting to true). I also don't want to use LabyMod because it collects your Minecraft session and username (so the LabyMod owners can log in to your account), uploads and downloads files without your permission.

And I'm too lazy to update my mappings to 1.8.8, and I've made injectable clients before, so I know how JVM instrumentation works. I'll probably update it later though.

P.S: Speaking about LabyMod, should this thread be bumped? https://avicus.net/forums/discussions/eb11b90b2

dentmaged August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

theres a mod in 1.7 made by kohi, but they made it an ingame thing in 1.8.8

@OP if the server is 1.8 then what do you think lol
I'm just being sure, I don't want to get banned for this.

Sevoo August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

I'm just being sure, I don't want to get banned for this.
Here's what I recommend.

Either read the rules a lot, pm a staff member or just do it. I use 1.8.8 and no one has seen a difference.

EDIT: Didn't specify. Do this when you have a question similar to this one because you seem to have a lot xd.

dentmaged August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

Here's what I recommend.

Either read the rules a lot, pm a staff member or just do it. I use 1.8.8 and no one has seen a difference.

EDIT: Didn't specify. Do this when you have a question similar to this one because you seem to have a lot xd.
Apparently some people's pings went from 150 - 180 to 110 - 140 on other servers by using this mod.

Sevoo August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

Apparently some people's pings went from 150 - 180 to 110 - 140 on other servers by using this mod.
Yeah well in this case it's fine because 1.8 is 1.8.8 as well.

Tazz August 8, 2016 at 10:08 PM UTC

Yes, I am using agents. The reason why I don't want to use 1.8 BSM is a) it doesn't work b) i've been told it counts as a hack as it changes packets (where as my client uses reflection to set sprinting to true). I also don't want to use LabyMod because it collects your Minecraft session and username (so the LabyMod owners can log in to your account), uploads and downloads files without your permission.

And I'm too lazy to update my mappings to 1.8.8, and I've made injectable clients before, so I know how JVM instrumentation works. I'll probably update it later though.

P.S: Speaking about LabyMod, should this thread be bumped? https://avicus.net/forums/discussions/eb11b90b2
So just use ToggleSneak and disable the crouching and use Forge? Simple.

DaFrozenBlaze August 9, 2016 at 2:08 AM UTC

why better ping

Numberz_ August 9, 2016 at 5:08 AM UTC

So just use ToggleSneak and disable the crouching and use Forge? Simple.
"ToggleSneak" triggered

HotAndCrunch August 9, 2016 at 7:08 AM UTC

The words "injectable client" can be very misleading

dentmaged August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM UTC

The words "injectable client" can be very misleading
How so? Are you thinking of a ghost client?

HotAndCrunch August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM UTC

How so? Are you thinking of a ghost client?
The word "client" in general is usually associated with "hacked clients" and the fact that it is "injectable" makes people suspicious because why would you make it injectable unless you wanted to hide something. (not calling you out or anything. Just saying)

Goodnighht August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM UTC

Yes, I am using agents. The reason why I don't want to use 1.8 BSM is a) it doesn't work b) i've been told it counts as a hack as it changes packets (where as my client uses reflection to set sprinting to true). I also don't want to use LabyMod because it collects your Minecraft session and username (so the LabyMod owners can log in to your account), uploads and downloads files without your permission.

And I'm too lazy to update my mappings to 1.8.8, and I've made injectable clients before, so I know how JVM instrumentation works. I'll probably update it later though.

P.S: Speaking about LabyMod, should this thread be bumped? https://avicus.net/forums/discussions/eb11b90b2
This issue with Laby Mod was fixed, it had to do with the 1.7 block hitting animation but they removed it, so it's all good ;p

Stimulating August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM UTC

It doesn't improve ping, it improves your latency. It's the same as regedit basically, so it should be allowed. 

Explaination if you want to read it:

Basically ping is how long it takes packets of information to reach the server. It takes the same time, but with TCPNoDelay mod and regedit it sends the packet instantly instead of having a bit of a delay before it sends, improving your latency.

dentmaged August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM UTC

The word "client" in general is usually associated with "hacked clients" and the fact that it is "injectable" makes people suspicious because why would you make it injectable unless you wanted to hide something. (not calling you out or anything. Just saying)
Yeah. But I've made previous injectable clients and sold them to people, so I just took one of my simplest ones, removed all the hacks, but one (Sprint) and then I just use that. I can give it to admins to show proof that there are no hacks.

dentmaged August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM UTC

It doesn't improve ping, it improves your latency. It's the same as regedit basically, so it should be allowed. 

Explaination if you want to read it:

Basically ping is how long it takes packets of information to reach the server. It takes the same time, but with TCPNoDelay mod and regedit it sends the packet instantly instead of having a bit of a delay before it sends, improving your latency.
Oh thanks, I'm horrible with Networking in programming.

Stimulating August 9, 2016 at 8:08 AM UTC

Oh thanks, I'm horrible with Networking in programming.
Np, I just know a bit about it. It's an OS issue that causes it. Happens on OSX and Windows.

HotAndCrunch August 9, 2016 at 9:08 AM UTC

Yeah. But I've made previous injectable clients and sold them to people, so I just took one of my simplest ones, removed all the hacks, but one (Sprint) and then I just use that. I can give it to admins to show proof that there are no hacks.
use the word "mods" not "hacks". It is really misleading

Sevoo August 9, 2016 at 4:08 PM UTC

It doesn't improve ping, it improves your latency. It's the same as regedit basically, so it should be allowed. 

Explaination if you want to read it:

Basically ping is how long it takes packets of information to reach the server. It takes the same time, but with TCPNoDelay mod and regedit it sends the packet instantly instead of having a bit of a delay before it sends, improving your latency.
Check ur Skype pls

Stimulating August 9, 2016 at 5:08 PM UTC

Check ur Skype pls
no message

Sevoo August 9, 2016 at 5:08 PM UTC

no message
wat

ok I'll resend it when I get back on my pc

Acceqted August 10, 2016 at 7:08 AM UTC

Seeing as the question has been answered and some of us are falling into conversations not related towards this thread. I'll go ahead and lock this.

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