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Germany or staying in Istanbul? NEED HELP by flyofff January 28, 2016 at 2:01 PM UTC

I have a chance to move to Hamburg, Germany. Now I am living in Istanbul, I go to a Collage, and getting prepared for an exam that will change my destiny next year. As you know, there is no exam to be placed in a High-School in Germany. And unfortunately I'll be going school for 7 days next year. If I move to Germany, I'll be living with my father cuz my mom and father aren't married. I'm really confused. I really need help. If you are living in Germany, please tell me how school stuffs work there. I'm probably gonna move to Hamburg but still need to read your ideas about this. Please tell me what to do: Staying Istanbul or moving to Germany (btw I cannot speak German, if I move there I'll spend my first year with learning German)

BoldAndBrash January 28, 2016 at 2:01 PM UTC

/summon resepignev

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 2:01 PM UTC

I hope I can contact to him or he writes there.

ImNotYourTiger January 28, 2016 at 2:01 PM UTC

I would suggest staying in Istanbul. You already knows how everything works, you don't speak German, you don't know their laws or rules. Stay where you would be more comfortable

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

I would suggest staying in Istanbul. You already knows how everything works, you don't speak German, you don't know their laws or rules. Stay where you would be more comfortable
But the education in here isn't decent =/. And if I cannot get a good mark in exam, my life will be very bad. But if I go to Germany, everything will be better. I am probably gonna move there but I'm afraid =[ Cuz i believe that it's gonna be better for my destiny.

zero9178 January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

/summon resepginev

Germany got really good education and in general is one of the better places to study, I would suggest going to Hamburg

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

/summon resepginev

Germany got really good education and in general is one of the better places to study, I would suggest going to Hamburg
+1! I agree with you but I'm afraid anyways

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

By the way, do you learn Christian believings there? Cuz we have Muslim lesson here.

vladthegreat100 January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

Like stated above, Germany has one of the best, if not, the best education system but they are really strict. Meaning you are not allowed to miss a day of school -> Learnt this from people who lived in Germany when I met them in Cuba.

Probably will be a bit harder than what you have and maybe stricter as well(?) But may be worth going to.

EDIT: Not 100% sure how accurate this is but a lot of the time it's accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_education#Germany
I'm assuming that by muslim your beliefs are in the islamic religion(?) Not sure what y'all believe in, but if so there is that implemented in Germany from what is says in the link above.

Porkyyy January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

By the way, do you learn Christian believings there? Cuz we have Muslim lesson here.
I would assume so.
Germany is a big country so I'd assume that there are Christian school just as there are in most countries.

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

I don't care about religion. I'll go there only for education.

zero9178 January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

By the way, do you learn Christian believings there? Cuz we have Muslim lesson here.
mainly, but in almost every school you can also go to muslim religion lessons if you want to in some schools

AtditC January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

Go to Germany, they have better education as zero said

_Jupiter January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

Go to Germany! :)

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

I can learn Christian or Muslim. Doesn't matter for me

resepignev January 28, 2016 at 3:01 PM UTC

I got summoned lol

Well, First of all Hamburg is a beautiful city! The Alster, the Port, basically the whole city!

Now school works in 3-4 parts: First part is the primary school (grades 1-4), then the secondary school is split into 3 types (Haupt- (grades 5-9) and Realschule (grades 5-10) and the Gymnasium -> grades 5-12/13). Both of them are required.
Then you can decide to take training (Ausbildung) or you go to the university.
Overall the school system is very balanced and they try to help everyone to succeed.

Also the thing Vlad mentioned that we are strict when you miss a day isn't really true, the teachers will ask for an letter by your parents or you wit their signature so they know you were ill, at the doctor, etc. It's just a confirmation that you didn't skipped school. 

Yes, most Germans have the christian belief, but in school there is a special class or classes that focus on Muslims and other beliefs. 

Also school is most of the time free! Also university is free! You just have to buy simple things like pencils and stuff. Not sure about text books, but most of the time they are provided.

Germans are very open minded to other cultures. Although there is some discrimination by the PEGIDA (they are idiots xD), but you shouldn't worry too much about them.

If know how to speak basic German, there shouldn't be a problem to find a decent job. Most of the people will also accept people that can speak English + they sometimes even offer courses to improve the German skills of their employees.

If the education is Turkey isn't that good as you say, then I would move to Germany :)
If you have any more questions, contact me on Skype: flo.schmenni or just post in this thread :D

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM UTC

I got summoned lol

Well, First of all Hamburg is a beautiful city! The Alster, the Port, basically the whole city!

Now school works in 3-4 parts: First part is the primary school (grades 1-4), then the secondary school is split into 3 types (Haupt- (grades 5-9) and Realschule (grades 5-10) and the Gymnasium -> grades 5-12/13). Both of them are required.
Then you can decide to take training (Ausbildung) or you go to the university.
Overall the school system is very balanced and they try to help everyone to succeed.

Also the thing Vlad mentioned that we are strict when you miss a day isn't really true, the teachers will ask for an letter by your parents or you wit their signature so they know you were ill, at the doctor, etc. It's just a confirmation that you didn't skipped school. 

Yes, most Germans have the christian belief, but in school there is a special class or classes that focus on Muslims and other beliefs. 

Also school is most of the time free! Also university is free! You just have to buy simple things like pencils and stuff. Not sure about text books, but most of the time they are provided.

Germans are very open minded to other cultures. Although there is some discrimination by the PEGIDA (they are idiots xD), but you shouldn't worry too much about them.

If know how to speak basic German, there shouldn't be a problem to find a decent job. Most of the people will also accept people that can speak English + they sometimes even offer courses to improve the German skills of their employees.

If the education is Turkey isn't that good as you say, then I would move to Germany :)
If you have any more questions, contact me on Skype: flo.schmenni or just post in this thread :D
I wonder that, is it easy to concentrate to new system, or can I feel myself free there? Does it take a long time to feel myself as a 'German guy' ?

resepignev January 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM UTC

I wonder that, is it easy to concentrate to new system, or can I feel myself free there? Does it take a long time to feel myself as a 'German guy' ?
I would say so. The systems shouldn't be that different.
And from what I noticed, people feel themselves as a "German" pretty fast, but some people never ever feel like a "German Guy", maybe because they don't try to adapt :D

zero9178 January 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM UTC

I would say so. The systems shouldn't be that different.
And from what I noticed, people feel themselves as a "German" pretty fast, but some people never ever feel like a "German Guy", maybe because they don't try to adapt :D
I have only been to germany two times and since I have been on the internet I feel like a German guy

RIP_Avicus January 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM UTC

Come to Britain. Our schools are half decent.

ImNotYourTiger January 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM UTC

I would say so. The systems shouldn't be that different.
And from what I noticed, people feel themselves as a "German" pretty fast, but some people never ever feel like a "German Guy", maybe because they don't try to adapt :D
I never knew the university is free. I mean basic German language can be a problem in finding jobs at times. If the education isn't as good as you say, maybe you could even go somewhere else. But education is a top priority, as long as you can deal with everything else (language, religion, etc)

flyofff January 28, 2016 at 4:01 PM UTC

And I also learned that on my first year, I will be learning German mostly. I mean to speak fluent German. Is it true? I have read that I'll be with guys that are in the same situtaion with me.

Jotrexwitz January 28, 2016 at 7:01 PM UTC

how old are you?
 if i were you i would stay on istanbul 
idk germany its fine but its  a radical change of city  no markets at all and  really organized as well but if you have the chance to study and get a great mark on yoour exam do it

imryaan January 28, 2016 at 8:01 PM UTC

go to england:)

AstroPizza January 28, 2016 at 8:01 PM UTC

You'll get better ping in Germany :^)

DaFrozenBlaze January 28, 2016 at 10:01 PM UTC

If you think you're going to have more opportunities in Germany, then I don't see why not.

BoldAndBrash January 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM UTC

You'll get better ping in Germany :^)
All that matters, folks!

xNemoII January 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM UTC

Borra there's a saying "The grass is greener on the other side"

which means even though Germany may be great and all seeing it from a distance away but it could be worse than Istanbul. Maybe you'll have more fun in Istanbul? ;)

Sevoo January 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM UTC

Go to Germany, change is always good, and if you have a chance now, go for it !

AyyJake January 28, 2016 at 11:01 PM UTC

Do what your heart desires

JUBBINATOR January 29, 2016 at 2:01 AM UTC

Lotta turks been moving to Germany as of late, you sure you gonna be all alone? I know when one of my teachers lived in Germany he had a decent community of turkish to support him and help him and stuff, cos Germany is a really popular place for Turkish immigrants. In all honesty I'd go Germany, cos Germany has top notch education and you can probably get more contacts and work experience there, cos While Turkey might be an advanced country, on the whole it's nowhere near as advanced as Germany.
Dats just my opinion tho c:

Thomas_Shoes January 29, 2016 at 2:01 AM UTC

merica

vladthegreat100 January 29, 2016 at 2:01 AM UTC

merica
Canada is better with our milk bags and tim hortons

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

Lotta turks been moving to Germany as of late, you sure you gonna be all alone? I know when one of my teachers lived in Germany he had a decent community of turkish to support him and help him and stuff, cos Germany is a really popular place for Turkish immigrants. In all honesty I'd go Germany, cos Germany has top notch education and you can probably get more contacts and work experience there, cos While Turkey might be an advanced country, on the whole it's nowhere near as advanced as Germany.
Dats just my opinion tho c:
If I move there, I won't spend time with Turkish people. Cause I need to get adapted living like a German. Turkey, or Turkish people will mean nothing for me if I go there actually =/

And yeah, you are right! I've been searching for schools and education system in Germany and it's very much better than Turkish one. Schools teach us things that we'll not use in life here. I need to change my lifestyle.

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

Borra there's a saying "The grass is greener on the other side"

which means even though Germany may be great and all seeing it from a distance away but it could be worse than Istanbul. Maybe you'll have more fun in Istanbul? ;)
I am sure about that it's better than Istanbul. Because air pollution, traffic, bad education, exam system.... Everything sux here tbh =[

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

how old are you?
 if i were you i would stay on istanbul 
idk germany its fine but its  a radical change of city  no markets at all and  really organized as well but if you have the chance to study and get a great mark on yoour exam do it
My grades are very good. I'm one of the best student on my grades. And I'm 14, but the biggest problem is I don't know how to speak German. But I know that I'll spend my first year with learnin German. I am sure that I'll learn it very fast

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

go to england:)
I wish I could:) If I'd have a chance to move wherever I wanna, I'd chose England, USA or Australia. But England would be my first choise:7

_Mx_ January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

I wish I could:) If I'd have a chance to move wherever I wanna, I'd chose England, USA or Australia. But England would be my first choise:7
What about good old New Zealand?

Tbh we're actually an awesome country, with all this greenery, safety and freedom.

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

Well, most of you guys live in good countries. England, USA, Spain, Germany, Holland, or Australia... But make sure that Turkey is a bad country, with its fucking annoying name xD. Jks:9 I don't care about its name. Anyways, if I move to German, my biggest problem will be I'm not gonna be able to see my mother everyday. It's gonna be once a month if I move there. But I believe that I should be brave and save myself from this bad country. Even I'll live bad things or bad situtations, I think that when I get  25 years old, I will say 'I wish I'd move to German earlier!'

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

If you think you're going to have more opportunities in Germany, then I don't see why not.
But you know, people feel afraid when they change something. And if it's about someone's life, or destiny, we feel like dying, or someone is killing you. I mean I like changing things, but it also makes me feel afraid.

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 9:01 AM UTC

What about good old New Zealand?

Tbh we're actually an awesome country, with all this greenery, safety and freedom.
I don't have a chance to move where I wanna. I'll move to German cause of my dad' s business.

xNemoII January 29, 2016 at 10:01 AM UTC

I am sure about that it's better than Istanbul. Because air pollution, traffic, bad education, exam system.... Everything sux here tbh =[
No I mean like you got all your friends in Istanbul and stuff

stone_to_win January 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM UTC

As a friend of yours,i think you should go to germany.U will have to work one day so you need lots of education.In whatever circumstances,remember im still behind supporting you! ^-^

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM UTC

As a friend of yours,i think you should go to germany.U will have to work one day so you need lots of education.In whatever circumstances,remember im still behind supporting you! ^-^
+1

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM UTC

No I mean like you got all your friends in Istanbul and stuff
Ahh, yeah but I prefer a good destiny to a huge friend group. I need to think about my destiny, or how I can live better. That should be my point I think.

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM UTC

And my summer holiday is 4 months here, and I also have a winter holiday which is 2 weeks, and also a spring holiday which is 1 week... I will lose them if I move to Germany :)

zero9178 January 29, 2016 at 12:01 PM UTC

No I mean like you got all your friends in Istanbul and stuff
As harsh as it sounds. Friends are replaceable

resepignev January 29, 2016 at 12:01 PM UTC

And my summer holiday is 4 months here, and I also have a winter holiday which is 2 weeks, and also a spring holiday which is 1 week... I will lose them if I move to Germany :)
Not quite. You would have 6 weeks summer holidays, 2 weeks in autumn, 3 weeks winter/Christmas holidays, 2 weeks in spring and most of the holidays (1 day thingies) are on a Thursday or Tuesday, means that the Friday  after such a day is off or that Monday before them is off.

DaFrozenBlaze January 29, 2016 at 1:01 PM UTC

But you know, people feel afraid when they change something. And if it's about someone's life, or destiny, we feel like dying, or someone is killing you. I mean I like changing things, but it also makes me feel afraid.
I myself hare changing things, even small things like changing the family car and moving to another place, it affects me a lot. I'm moving next Feb and I can't sleep sometimes because I keep thinking about how things won't be the same

xNemoII January 29, 2016 at 5:01 PM UTC

Ahh, yeah but I prefer a good destiny to a huge friend group. I need to think about my destiny, or how I can live better. That should be my point I think.
btw im not like trying to persuade you to stay or anything, at the end of the day its your choice im just giving my opinion C:

xNemoII January 29, 2016 at 5:01 PM UTC

As harsh as it sounds. Friends are replaceable
some friends can't though

zero9178 January 29, 2016 at 5:01 PM UTC

some friends can't though
If I would have the choice between a good education in another country or losing my bestest bestest friends (who I probably would still be able to be in contact with) I would always choose education.

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 5:01 PM UTC

If I would have the choice between a good education in another country or losing my bestest bestest friends (who I probably would still be able to be in contact with) I would always choose education.
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 6:01 PM UTC

I myself hare changing things, even small things like changing the family car and moving to another place, it affects me a lot. I'm moving next Feb and I can't sleep sometimes because I keep thinking about how things won't be the same
When I change things in my life, I can adapt very quickly. This year, I changed my school and the first day of the school was kinda like my other schools first day for me. New things, makes me feel new feelings, but they don't make me think like 'Ohh God, things won't go like in the past, what should I do, help me!'. Actually I feel like 'I like new startings. Lez do it Borra!' That's why I don't feel very afraid unless it changes my life but this thing will change my life. But the thing that makes me feel happy in this situation is, I know that my life will be better. But I am not a person, who can decide how to feel anyways.

flyofff January 29, 2016 at 6:01 PM UTC

btw im not like trying to persuade you to stay or anything, at the end of the day its your choice im just giving my opinion C:
I know, my friend. c;

_Mx_ January 29, 2016 at 6:01 PM UTC

I don't have a chance to move where I wanna. I'll move to German cause of my dad' s business.
Aye, I was just stating its a cool country - personally I'd go to Germany.

Iron January 30, 2016 at 6:01 AM UTC

As someone who has lived in 5 different countries, and over 7 homes. Moving is quite hard, especially for the first few times. However, the friends you make are not the end of it. You have a budding life to wait for! So go out and take advantage of every opportunity you get! If you don't..... You might just regret it...

ImNotYourTiger February 1, 2016 at 5:02 AM UTC

As someone who has lived in 5 different countries, and over 7 homes. Moving is quite hard, especially for the first few times. However, the friends you make are not the end of it. You have a budding life to wait for! So go out and take advantage of every opportunity you get! If you don't..... You might just regret it...
Friends are important aswell. However, in my opinion education is more important. But for others, it would be more important to stay with friends than to get a better education.

Borra, I suggest going to Germany, where the education is better. I had a chance that could change my life to move to a better school and I denied it because of my friends. But the thing is, if their REALLY your friends, they would make the effort to stay in touch. Also the universities are free which is a HUGE bonus/opportunity.