This Staff is a joke
by
Rombeyy
January 23, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC
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Ok so this whoole week there has been hundreds of cheaters and toxic people and when we look at the tab or use /staff there are no staffs on, and they enter back like 2 hours after the cheater has been playing and then he is gone, so me and a lot of players in the community has been thinking if we can make NEW staff apps so the network can have new and more active staffs because leaving aside some staff members, THIS STAFF IS A JOKE
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Ok en esta semana entera ha habido cientos de cheateros y personas tóxicas y cuando nos fijamos en el tab o usamos /staff no hay ningun staff, y entran 2 horas después de que el hacker ha estado jugando y luego se ha ido, Yo y un montón de jugadores en la comunidad ha estado pensando si podemos hacer nuevas aplicaciones para staff, para que la network pueda tener staffs nuevos y más activos, porque dejando a un lado a algunos miembros del staff, ESTE STAFF ES UNA BROMA
Staff can't be on every second, which is why we encourage players to record/screenshot evidence and send in online reports so that players can be banned as soon as possible if there are no staff on.
People forget that we are a volunteer staff team. We can only be so active and do so much.
*sigh* As you all know, staff are human. Most of us have school every, if not most, days. We don't do this as a job. We don't get paid. We do this because we want to help the community, and what payment do we get? A forum post saying that the whole staff team is a joke... What a fucking deal, sign me up! Wanna know what I find a joke? How most of us try and try, and when some of us get a well deserved break for school, we all get blamed because it took 30 minutes to ban one hacker. I understand it sounds bad but you gotta understand, we aren't robots, we are human beings who have lives outside of this server and this game.
Oh, you had homework, assignments and anything that will help progress your future outside of a block game instead of moderating? No one in their right mind would say, "This essay I have due tomorrow can wait, I have to moderate Avicus!" They don't. We all prioritize our real lives over Avicus, and it will always be like that
Trying to balance moderating with school, work, a social life and all the rest is easier said than done. We can't be on all day, everyday. As good as it sounds, it will never happen.
I'm tired of hearing "mods have lives"[WE KNOW YOU DO, ALMOST ALL OF US DO] "we cant cover all day". Rombeyy is right, multiple times today it would take 20-30 minutes to get a moderator online to ban a hacker, or to help in chat. Its ridiculous. I've been informed that a lot of staff are on leave currently, then something needs to be done by the staff team to fill in for those leave positions. It is one of the most peak times and days. A weekend, mid day for Americans, and no staff online. There are about ten mods that I rarely see online, or when they do come online, they are afk or don't do jack. You're right, the server cant be covered 24/7 but I bet half the mod team has the ability to get on when needed, they just choose not to. One of the best excuses is "oh I'm on leave I don't have to get on" the funniest part is those people have the ability to get on. We are fed up with the excuses, fix it, because I've heard some players want to leave because its getting outrageous. Seems you aren't recruiting active mods, but mods that meet other criteria's. TAKE THE FEEDBACK, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Because right now, you guys are just making excuses +1 to cammy, always gets on when needed, great mod, deserves a break but he cant take one because all other 15 mods are never on. Alex and Pie are also some first responders, its strange its the same people each time..
Rombeyy, me parece un poco gracioso que hagas este post sinceramente. Quisiera dar mi opinión de lo que acabas de escribir pero Cammy tiene toda la razón del mundo, y la razón es que no somos robots, somos humanos y la verdad es que no nos podemos conectar todos los días. Nuestro "trabajo" es voluntario, no nos pagan y esto no es la vida real. Nosotros hacemos lo que podemos para conectarnos el día al día pero si no se puede ya esta, nuestra vida no se va a basar en moderar este servidor para toda la vida.
Abrir las aplicaciones sinceramente no va a servir, pero ¿qué te hace pensar que vas a estar conectado todas las horas del día por 7 días jugando en Avicus?. Ese es el punto que estas tratando de llegar ¿no? que los staff se conecten cada minuto. Pero no, el staff NO ES UNA BROMA como tu dices, me da un poco de tristeza que especialmente tu digas esto.
Congrats Camemes, you explained everything really good. Love you <3
I'm tired of hearing "mods have lives"[WE KNOW YOU DO, ALMOST ALL OF US DO] "we cant cover all day". Rombeyy is right, multiple times today it would take 20-30 minutes to get a moderator online to ban a hacker, or to help in chat. Its ridiculous. I've been informed that a lot of staff are on leave currently, then something needs to be done by the staff team to fill in for those leave positions. It is one of the most peak times and days. A weekend, mid day for Americans, and no staff online. There are about ten mods that I rarely see online, or when they do come online, they are afk or don't do jack. You're right, the server cant be covered 24/7 but I bet half the mod team has the ability to get on when needed, they just choose not to. One of the best excuses is "oh I'm on leave I don't have to get on" the funniest part is those people have the ability to get on. We are fed up with the excuses, fix it, because I've heard some players want to leave because its getting outrageous. Seems you aren't recruiting active mods, but mods that meet other criteria's. TAKE THE FEEDBACK, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Because right now, you guys are just making excuses +1 to cammy, always gets on when needed, great mod, deserves a break but he cant take one because all other 15 mods are never on. Alex and Pie are also some first responders, its strange its the same people each time..
There's a difference between making excuses and providing answers.
Also, I said it was midday for New Zealand, not for America. It's about 6pm EST.
Senior Moderators don't moderate as frequently as Moderators because they have other jobs to do apart from Moderating.
And yes, there are some mods (like me :P) who are currently on leave so there's not much we can do about that..
Which leaves aboooout 20ish people let's say.
I do agree that the staff in general need to work on their activity as a prioirty but there's only so much time 20 people can cover.
With only 20 people, you're gonna get some quiet spots unfortunately.
Youre asking us to 'be more active' but sometimes it's not that easy. It's just reality.
Make sure to read this and apply for the Community Slack. You can contact Moderators here whenever there is a rulebreaker on when there is no Moderators or Staff online. Make sure to follow the rules :).
Also, if you have some staff added on Skype or another platform, you can notify them or they can notify other staff if they cannot get on. You also have the option of forum reports.
Like Camemes said, we aren't paid to be Moderators, we are volunteers. We decided to become Moderators, but that doesn't mean we have other important priorities in our lives. I bet you, you would care more about those important priorities, rather than spending majority of that time on a video game.
It's already been written, but the staff here is humans, they have their lifes to take care of and not just by playing games. They will be on when they have time to.
Yesterday I was playing against 3 bhoppers for two hours I thought them being banned.
Yeah I know it's hard to be a staff member. I did it for over a year on a server with a 1-3k player base. But seriously it seems not hard to jump on for ten minutes after school or before bed or some shit just to see if anyone needs help or if there are any hackers. (If y'all don't want to ban hackers get an anti cheat)
Here's a solution: Aim staff applications at younger players (i.e. 14 year olds). I don't know of many countries where they have important exams at the end of the year. This will reduce the number of LOAs being taken whilst providing the server with mods who are capable of getting on.
However, since you want to keep slandering the staff team, consider this little problem; the server's population mostly consists of Western Hemisphere players. This means that players are undoubtedly going to be vulnerable during other times. There's no work-around for this. No mod is going to keep playing into unreasonable times just to stop a hacker on a block game server. Personally, I'd rather have mods that are active during some times rather than no mods due to the mods all quitting due to unreasonable times being demanded of them.
As others are already stated, these staff members are volunteers. They willingly give up their free time to make your gaming experience on the server enjoyable. They deserve respect, and frankly, they've done more for the server than you ever have.
If you care so much about the staff team improving, I recommend applying. Until then, actually educate yourself on the staff team and the problems with moderating before creating slanderous posts.
And here I was swearing to myself to never write another essay. Bloody hell...
Chill. Staff cant be on all the time, I understand. They have lives too, school and other personal happenings. Without staff, these hackers wont be banned so show them some respect.
Here's a solution: Aim staff applications at younger players (i.e. 14 year olds). I don't know of many countries where they have important exams at the end of the year. This will reduce the number of LOAs being taken whilst providing the server with mods who are capable of getting on.
However, since you want to keep slandering the staff team, consider this little problem; the server's population mostly consists of Western Hemisphere players. This means that players are undoubtedly going to be vulnerable during other times. There's no work-around for this. No mod is going to keep playing into unreasonable times just to stop a hacker on a block game server. Personally, I'd rather have mods that are active during some times rather than no mods due to the mods all quitting due to unreasonable times being demanded of them.
As others are already stated, these staff members are volunteers. They willingly give up their free time to make your gaming experience on the server enjoyable. They deserve respect, and frankly, they've done more for the server than you ever have.
If you care so much about the staff team improving, I recommend applying. Until then, actually educate yourself on the staff team and the problems with moderating before creating slanderous posts.
And here I was swearing to myself to never write another essay. Bloody hell...
I had much more moderating time when I was younger.
I dont find this a problem... They may not be online but the second you call staff on slack they are on within a minute (no joke) and ive never been let down by no one coming online to respond
'However, since you want to keep slandering the staff team, consider this little problem; the server's population mostly consists of Western Hemisphere players. This means that players are undoubtedly going to be vulnerable during other times. There's no work-around for this. No mod is going to keep playing into unreasonable times just to stop a hacker on a block game server. Personally, I'd rather have mods that are active during some times rather than no mods due to the mods all quitting due to unreasonable times being demanded of them.'
*sigh* As you all know, staff are human. Most of us have school every, if not most, days. We don't do this as a job. We don't get paid. We do this because we want to help the community, and what payment do we get? A forum post saying that the whole staff team is a joke... What a fucking deal, sign me up! Wanna know what I find a joke? How most of us try and try, and when some of us get a well deserved break for school, we all get blamed because it took 30 minutes to ban one hacker. I understand it sounds bad but you gotta understand, we aren't robots, we are human beings who have lives outside of this server and this game.
Oh, you had homework, assignments and anything that will help progress your future outside of a block game instead of moderating? No one in their right mind would say, "This essay I have due tomorrow can wait, I have to moderate Avicus!" They don't. We all prioritize our real lives over Avicus, and it will always be like that
Trying to balance moderating with school, work, a social life and all the rest is easier said than done. We can't be on all day, everyday. As good as it sounds, it will never happen.
Cammy put this perfectly, but just as an example, and I know a lot of staff would agree with me here:
I get on as soon as I get home as long as I have no homework. If I have homework then I am on when I am done with that. The only time I wouldn't be on is if I want to play CS:GO or if I am catching up on my Netflix shows. Other then that you can only Moderate for so long without getting bored. Just like you guys, we get bored, we don't always enjoy Avicus. One person can't stay online for 10 hours a day just because the community wants them to be. It's just too much. Try playing one game from the moment you get home from school to an hour before you go to bed. You would be bored after a few hours. I understand that we need to be more active, and that makes sense, but there's also a line between inactivity and just being busy or bored.
Cammy put this perfectly, but just as an example, and I know a lot of staff would agree with me here:
I get on as soon as I get home as long as I have no homework. If I have homework then I am on when I am done with that. The only time I wouldn't be on is if I want to play CS:GO or if I am catching up on my Netflix shows. Other then that you can only Moderate for so long without getting bored. Just like you guys, we get bored, we don't always enjoy Avicus. One person can't stay online for 10 hours a day just because the community wants them to be. It's just too much. Try playing one game from the moment you get home from school to an hour before you go to bed. You would be bored after a few hours. I understand that we need to be more active, and that makes sense, but there's also a line between inactivity and just being busy or bored.
"One person can't stay online for 10 hours a day just because the community wants them to be."
"One person can't stay online for 10 hours a day just because the community wants them to be."
Well luckily there's like 30 mods
Most of them have school around the same time, meaning the times that most people are complaining about are around 6am-4pm EST. That would be the time most staff are at school, depending on what grade and/or timezone they are in. Sure, there are a fair amount of staff, but there are also times where it's just really hard to have someone online. Between school, work, and sleep a lot of people only get a few hours a day free.
Most of them have school around the same time, meaning the times that most people are complaining about are around 6am-4pm EST. That would be the time most staff are at school, depending on what grade and/or timezone they are in. Sure, there are a fair amount of staff, but there are also times where it's just really hard to have someone online. Between school, work, and sleep a lot of people only get a few hours a day free.
so who's the genius who decided to hire mods that all only get on during one time period?
I dont find this a problem... They may not be online but the second you call staff on slack they are on within a minute (no joke) and ive never been let down by no one coming online to respond
yeah no this past weekend we had to wait a long time
Most of them have school around the same time, meaning the times that most people are complaining about are around 6am-4pm EST. That would be the time most staff are at school, depending on what grade and/or timezone they are in. Sure, there are a fair amount of staff, but there are also times where it's just really hard to have someone online. Between school, work, and sleep a lot of people only get a few hours a day free.
so who's the genius who decided to hire mods that all only get on during one time period?
Those are most of the people that apply. There is also a lot less people in other time zones, meaning they may not apply, and even if they do that doesn't mean they are mature enough or meet the requirements to be a Moderator. There are a lot of things that play into this, not just the fact that most applicants that are accepted are around the same timezone.
Who said anything about school on weekends? Although weekends tend to be people's only time to do stuff, because there is no school. Meaning there is even less time for moderating.
Also for this topic at least, the weekends are my "time off". I spend a lot of time on Avicus during the week, and the weekends are the only days that my IRL friends can be online. I spend most of my day in a Skype call with them, playing other servers or other games. If they are not on and I have nothing else to do, then sure I'll get on, but I spend all week on Avicus, on the weekend the last thing I want to do is get on Avicus again. I'm not sure how true this is for other Moderators, but this is how my schedule is.
Rombeyy, me parece un poco gracioso que hagas este post sinceramente. Quisiera dar mi opinión de lo que acabas de escribir pero Cammy tiene toda la razón del mundo, y la razón es que no somos robots, somos humanos y la verdad es que no nos podemos conectar todos los días. Nuestro "trabajo" es voluntario, no nos pagan y esto no es la vida real. Nosotros hacemos lo que podemos para conectarnos el día al día pero si no se puede ya esta, nuestra vida no se va a basar en moderar este servidor para toda la vida.
Abrir las aplicaciones sinceramente no va a servir, pero ¿qué te hace pensar que vas a estar conectado todas las horas del día por 7 días jugando en Avicus?. Ese es el punto que estas tratando de llegar ¿no? que los staff se conecten cada minuto. Pero no, el staff NO ES UNA BROMA como tu dices, me da un poco de tristeza que especialmente tu digas esto.
Congrats Camemes, you explained everything really good. Love you <3
en ningun momento dije que tienen que estar cada segundo, tienen staffs de casi todas partes del mundo desde EU y AU hasta en chile, cosa que deberia dar una ventaja al STAFF para poder tener gente en teoria en cualquier hora del dia no un staff en especifico. Ademas por algo pongo sacando a algunos staffs de lado Camemes es uno de los pocos que se conectan
I dont find this a problem... They may not be online but the second you call staff on slack they are on within a minute (no joke) and ive never been let down by no one coming online to respond
cuz r a Media staff will always listen to media, but wat when there is no media and just normal players without a staff on ?
You join the community slack from the link in my post.
ill join later but u can't fix the problem by saying oh ur not in slack thats ur fault, no we don't have to join to the slack asking for help the thing is that the people in slack has to be in game not everyone but at least one. btw u r one of the few staffs on so ty about that
As we can see there is an ongoing problem of not having enough staff members online at a moment, causing the server to go without staff members and hackers are flying and ruining the game. I understand the moment when there is a hacker online and you wish someone could come online and fix the game for you, which is what the moderators are supposed to be accomplishing.
At the moment I am compiling feedback and suggestions form this post noting activity. This has been an issue for a while and the idea of tackling it seems like a new and interesting subject for me and the community to come up solutions for. As one community member suggested tightening the organization area when moderators come online or should we be changing how we do moderator applications in the future,
Like I said before, the challenges of this certain topic is that this hasn't been worked on in the past, where we have been trying the same solution since McZone first came out and hoped that it would work. It seems that this will not stand for any longer and we will have to take a different approach on the matter, which in itself comes with the possibility of a trial and error approach.
If there are any questions/suggestions about what you guys think just reply to me and I will answer about this topic in hand.
As dev_revs said: 'I'm tired of hearing "mods have lives"[WE KNOW YOU DO, ALMOST ALL OF US DO] "we cant cover all day". Rombeyy is right, multiple times today it would take 20-30 minutes to get a moderator online to ban a hacker, or to help in chat. Its ridiculous.' At least me, I don´t want the Moderators to be online all the day but is so ridiculous that you should be 30 or more minutes to get a Mod or Senior to ban a player because in 30 minutes, the majority of players who were playing leave because the hacker can be using the cheats without get banned. The community know that the staff have things to do on the real life, but if you can´t get online the majority of the days of the week, Why did you apply?
Rombeyy te la re chupo, porque por lo que tengo entendido vos estuviste interesado en ser Mod en Avicus y la mayoria de los gringuitos no se animan a hacer posts como este contra el Staff.
'However, since you want to keep slandering the staff team, consider this little problem; the server's population mostly consists of Western Hemisphere players. This means that players are undoubtedly going to be vulnerable during other times. There's no work-around for this. No mod is going to keep playing into unreasonable times just to stop a hacker on a block game server. Personally, I'd rather have mods that are active during some times rather than no mods due to the mods all quitting due to unreasonable times being demanded of them.'
Ergo, it's difficult to get Eastern mods.
Yet there are still hackers at western peak times when no mods are on kk
I'm tired of hearing "mods have lives"[WE KNOW YOU DO, ALMOST ALL OF US DO] "we cant cover all day". Rombeyy is right, multiple times today it would take 20-30 minutes to get a moderator online to ban a hacker, or to help in chat. Its ridiculous. I've been informed that a lot of staff are on leave currently, then something needs to be done by the staff team to fill in for those leave positions. It is one of the most peak times and days. A weekend, mid day for Americans, and no staff online. There are about ten mods that I rarely see online, or when they do come online, they are afk or don't do jack. You're right, the server cant be covered 24/7 but I bet half the mod team has the ability to get on when needed, they just choose not to. One of the best excuses is "oh I'm on leave I don't have to get on" the funniest part is those people have the ability to get on. We are fed up with the excuses, fix it, because I've heard some players want to leave because its getting outrageous. Seems you aren't recruiting active mods, but mods that meet other criteria's. TAKE THE FEEDBACK, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Because right now, you guys are just making excuses +1 to cammy, always gets on when needed, great mod, deserves a break but he cant take one because all other 15 mods are never on. Alex and Pie are also some first responders, its strange its the same people each time..
As we can see there is an ongoing problem of not having enough staff members online at a moment, causing the server to go without staff members and hackers are flying and ruining the game. I understand the moment when there is a hacker online and you wish someone could come online and fix the game for you, which is what the moderators are supposed to be accomplishing.
At the moment I am compiling feedback and suggestions form this post noting activity. This has been an issue for a while and the idea of tackling it seems like a new and interesting subject for me and the community to come up solutions for. As one community member suggested tightening the organization area when moderators come online or should we be changing how we do moderator applications in the future,
Like I said before, the challenges of this certain topic is that this hasn't been worked on in the past, where we have been trying the same solution since McZone first came out and hoped that it would work. It seems that this will not stand for any longer and we will have to take a different approach on the matter, which in itself comes with the possibility of a trial and error approach.
If there are any questions/suggestions about what you guys think just reply to me and I will answer about this topic in hand.
When exactly are activity checks going to happen? They were int he talks like a month ago, and even confirmed.
Sometimes when no mods are online, my HOME team members and I use our team slack since we have a bunch of moderators on our team. Occasionally, they are able to come online or they ask for us to record issues.
I can record things pretty easy and have lots of computer storage to catch those nasty hacker, so if I'm online I will volunteer to help out more by recording or contacting mods on slack, if needed.
It's like a super, secret spy network, but cooler. I'd like a rank called RECORDER please for my efforts. If not, I may change my name to Murph_the_Recorder or Murph_the_BanHammer or Murph_the_HackerSnatcher. Just a thought.
Sometimes when no mods are online, my HOME team members and I use our team slack since we have a bunch of moderators on our team. Occasionally, they are able to come online or they ask for us to record issues.
I can record things pretty easy and have lots of computer storage to catch those nasty hacker, so if I'm online I will volunteer to help out more by recording or contacting mods on slack, if needed.
It's like a super, secret spy network, but cooler. I'd like a rank called RECORDER please for my efforts. If not, I may change my name to Murph_the_Recorder or Murph_the_BanHammer or Murph_the_HackerSnatcher. Just a thought.
I understand mods have lives outside of minecraft too, but if you can not balance your outside life and being active on mc then maybe you should not be mod?
I understand mods have lives outside of minecraft too, but if you can not balance your outside life and being active on mc then maybe you should not be mod?
As dev_revs said: 'I'm tired of hearing "mods have lives"[WE KNOW YOU DO, ALMOST ALL OF US DO] "we cant cover all day". Rombeyy is right, multiple times today it would take 20-30 minutes to get a moderator online to ban a hacker, or to help in chat. Its ridiculous.' At least me, I don´t want the Moderators to be online all the day but is so ridiculous that you should be 30 or more minutes to get a Mod or Senior to ban a player because in 30 minutes, the majority of players who were playing leave because the hacker can be using the cheats without get banned. The community know that the staff have things to do on the real life, but if you can´t get online the majority of the days of the week, Why did you apply?
Rombeyy te la re chupo, porque por lo que tengo entendido vos estuviste interesado en ser Mod en Avicus y la mayoria de los gringuitos no se animan a hacer posts como este contra el Staff.
I hope you realize majority of us applied to become a Mod and some referred, including myself. However, at the time of applying, we may of had more freetime as it was break or the beginning of school where there wasn't as much assignments assigned as of now as we are mid way through the school year. I see life as weather, it can be forcasted to be sunny the next day, but unexpectedly turns out to be raining. That will cause some delays to go anywhere or do anything. Irl activites creates delays on how long it will take to be available for our extra stuff we enjoy in our freetime, such as playing Minecraft and moderating if you are passionated qbout it. Every journey has a detour, from tiny to large.
I hope you realize majority of us applied to become a Mod and some referred, including myself. However, at the time of applying, we may of had more freetime as it was break or the beginning of school where there wasn't as much assignments assigned as of now as we are mid way through the school year. I see life as weather, it can be forcasted to be sunny the next day, but unexpectedly turns out to be raining. That will cause some delays to go anywhere or do anything. Irl activites creates delays on how long it will take to be available for our extra stuff we enjoy in our freetime, such as playing Minecraft and moderating if you are passionated qbout it. Every journey has a detour, from tiny to large.
so mods go on long breaks but won't step down because they're afraid to relinquish power, got it. it's funny what power does to some people
'However, since you want to keep slandering the staff team, consider this little problem; the server's population mostly consists of Western Hemisphere players. This means that players are undoubtedly going to be vulnerable during other times. There's no work-around for this. No mod is going to keep playing into unreasonable times just to stop a hacker on a block game server. Personally, I'd rather have mods that are active during some times rather than no mods due to the mods all quitting due to unreasonable times being demanded of them.'
Ergo, it's difficult to get Eastern mods.
We have British players and aussies so they are eastern hemisphere players
If it gets to the point where you can't even be on at least once a week, then you shouldn't be Mod then.........
I have a list of staff members who haven't been on in a while, or come on for like a min just to show on their profile they were last online sooner, than later.
As dev_revs said: 'I'm tired of hearing "mods have lives"[WE KNOW YOU DO, ALMOST ALL OF US DO] "we cant cover all day". Rombeyy is right, multiple times today it would take 20-30 minutes to get a moderator online to ban a hacker, or to help in chat. Its ridiculous.' At least me, I don´t want the Moderators to be online all the day but is so ridiculous that you should be 30 or more minutes to get a Mod or Senior to ban a player because in 30 minutes, the majority of players who were playing leave because the hacker can be using the cheats without get banned. The community know that the staff have things to do on the real life, but if you can´t get online the majority of the days of the week, Why did you apply?
Rombeyy te la re chupo, porque por lo que tengo entendido vos estuviste interesado en ser Mod en Avicus y la mayoria de los gringuitos no se animan a hacer posts como este contra el Staff.
por que tienen miedo de que los baneen a mi no me importa nada mas opino lo que pienso xD y todavia sigo interesado en ser mod pero despues de este post no creo que lo tenga xD
Guys the staff is trying their hardest. They volunteered to look over the server. They have lives they can't be on all day every day. They are not a joke. They punish cheaters and toxic people when they are on. If their are no staff on you can record or screenshot evidence so they can be banned later. Respect the staff members don't call the staff team a joke.
en ningun momento dije que tienen que estar cada segundo, tienen staffs de casi todas partes del mundo desde EU y AU hasta en chile, cosa que deberia dar una ventaja al STAFF para poder tener gente en teoria en cualquier hora del dia no un staff en especifico. Ademas por algo pongo sacando a algunos staffs de lado Camemes es uno de los pocos que se conectan
Entonces, ¿por que crees que abrir de nuevo las aplicaciones de Staff solucionaría este problema? ¿qué te hace pensar que a los que aplican para ser moderador no les puede pasar lo mismo que a los mods actuales?
Todos (me incluyo) al inicio de nuestro trabajo voluntario de Junior Moderador eramos activos, tratamos de ser activos y dar lo mejor de nosotros y cuando alguien necesitaba nuestra ayuda íbamos para banear/sancionar a los que rompían las reglas. Pero, ahora es un poco diferente, la mayoría moderadores están en semanas de examines y no pueden dejar sus estudios, sus familias que probablemente sea lo más importante, su vida social, entre muchos otros factores fuera de este juego. Esto es un hobby para muchos ya que no recibimos nada a cambio y hacemos lo que podemos para hacer servidor mejor y sinceramente estos post no nos aportan nada a nosotros.
you'd think that 30 mods would be enough to cover all day but apparently not...
Sorry but it takes a lot more mods on any server to accomplish mods on at every second of the day and even then they still have their own lives just like you do (at least I hope). Servers like mineplex and hypixel can accomplish this because of their near 300-500+ staff team and even there you rarely find a staff member. If you can name a server that can accomplish this with a smaller mod team then I'd be impressed
I have a list of staff members who haven't been on in a while, or come on for like a min just to show on their profile they were last online sooner, than later.
Staff members aren't just judged on their "last seen ingame" on their profile. You can view their rate of punishments over a period of time and decide if they are actually do anything. That's what that feature on the punishment page is there for.
Staff members aren't just judged on their "last seen ingame" on their profile. You can view their rate of punishments over a period of time and decide if they are actually do anything. That's what that feature on the punishment page is there for.
i must say i've never noticed the punishments link hidden there at the bottom of the page, at first i thought it was only something staff could view. anyways, it is a tad difficult to get information on activity there without being able to sort by staff member.
Staff members aren't just judged on their "last seen ingame" on their profile. You can view their rate of punishments over a period of time and decide if they are actually do anything. That's what that feature on the punishment page is there for.
I don't think that's a feature to the public, if it is, how do we reach it?
Entonces, ¿por que crees que abrir de nuevo las aplicaciones de Staff solucionaría este problema? ¿qué te hace pensar que a los que aplican para ser moderador no les puede pasar lo mismo que a los mods actuales?
Todos (me incluyo) al inicio de nuestro trabajo voluntario de Junior Moderador eramos activos, tratamos de ser activos y dar lo mejor de nosotros y cuando alguien necesitaba nuestra ayuda íbamos para banear/sancionar a los que rompían las reglas. Pero, ahora es un poco diferente, la mayoría moderadores están en semanas de examines y no pueden dejar sus estudios, sus familias que probablemente sea lo más importante, su vida social, entre muchos otros factores fuera de este juego. Esto es un hobby para muchos ya que no recibimos nada a cambio y hacemos lo que podemos para hacer servidor mejor y sinceramente estos post no nos aportan nada a nosotros.
Ya se que cuando sos jr o trial tratas de dar lo mejor yo también fui mod y sr mod en un montón de servers, y con lo de más staffs creo que estas mal casi la mayoría de staffs ahora son del uk y muy pocos del east como decían antes y tienen razón, tendrían que hacer nuevas staff apps pero solo para personas del east.
Sorry but it takes a lot more mods on any server to accomplish mods on at every second of the day and even then they still have their own lives just like you do (at least I hope). Servers like mineplex and hypixel can accomplish this because of their near 300-500+ staff team and even there you rarely find a staff member. If you can name a server that can accomplish this with a smaller mod team then I'd be impressed
Some HCF servers have less than 15 staffs and they can handle ALMOST everythinhg since always there is at least one staff on.
As we can see there is an ongoing problem of not having enough staff members online at a moment, causing the server to go without staff members and hackers are flying and ruining the game. I understand the moment when there is a hacker online and you wish someone could come online and fix the game for you, which is what the moderators are supposed to be accomplishing.
At the moment I am compiling feedback and suggestions form this post noting activity. This has been an issue for a while and the idea of tackling it seems like a new and interesting subject for me and the community to come up solutions for. As one community member suggested tightening the organization area when moderators come online or should we be changing how we do moderator applications in the future,
Like I said before, the challenges of this certain topic is that this hasn't been worked on in the past, where we have been trying the same solution since McZone first came out and hoped that it would work. It seems that this will not stand for any longer and we will have to take a different approach on the matter, which in itself comes with the possibility of a trial and error approach.
If there are any questions/suggestions about what you guys think just reply to me and I will answer about this topic in hand.
MAYBE some new staff apps ONLY for east ppl? since most of the staff is from the UK
no no, just saying the mod who is more active, the rest also come, but not so much and that should change, there are more less 14 hours in which there are ppl active, and each hour should have one mod ^
no no, just saying the mod who is more active, the rest also come, but not so much and that should change, there are more less 14 hours in which there are ppl active, and each hour should have one mod ^
OK, cool. Sorry I took an aggressive tone, but you can see how I was a little on edge from the thread topic. Thanks for giving constructive feedback :)
Tu post me parece un poco ridículo, no podemos estar siempre conectados, por que tenemos cosas que hacer mas importante que jugar y/o moderar en un servidor. Si quieres hacer algo bueno por el servidor te pediría que dejes de tener esas actitudes que afectan a la comunidad y mantén respeto hacia el personal por que se lo merece. Yo no considero que el Staff sea una broma por que se hace lo posible por mejorar la comunidad y cubriendo el mayor tiempo posible.
Just give up, boy. Let's be realists. This staff team is the best what this server with 70 players online maximum can have. Avicus doesn't have a purpose and can't become a big worldwide server anymore. This is the end. Maybe it won't die this or next year, but it will stay small server for hackers parties and avicus/mczone oldfags*. And with such staff team. gg *in good way
Just give up, boy. Let's be realists. This staff team is the best what this server with 70 players online maximum can have. Avicus doesn't have a purpose and can't become a big worldwide server anymore. This is the end. Maybe it won't die this or next year, but it will stay small server for hackers parties and avicus/mczone oldfags*. And with such staff team. gg *in good way
The server can come back to those "good years" but the thing is that there are no big ytbers playing on the network, that was something i was thinking yesterday ill try to talk with some ytb friends that i have today and see wat they can do
Tu post me parece un poco ridículo, no podemos estar siempre conectados, por que tenemos cosas que hacer mas importante que jugar y/o moderar en un servidor. Si quieres hacer algo bueno por el servidor te pediría que dejes de tener esas actitudes que afectan a la comunidad y mantén respeto hacia el personal por que se lo merece. Yo no considero que el Staff sea una broma por que se hace lo posible por mejorar la comunidad y cubriendo el mayor tiempo posible.
- Diego
Yo afecto a la comunidad? Mira el post y vasa ver como hay gente que piensa lo mismo que yo por lo que no es una idea mía sino de otros jugadores también y entiendo que haya otras cosas en la vida cotidiana por qué también fui staffs en otros servers pero si no tenes el tiempo necesario para moderar entonces para que seguís con un rango que otra persona más activa y que puede ayudar más puede tener.
The server can come back to those "good years" but the thing is that there are no big ytbers playing on the network, that was something i was thinking yesterday ill try to talk with some ytb friends that i have today and see wat they can do
Youtubers have never worked as far as I know, player count has nothing to do with staff doing their job and being active.
Ya se que cuando sos jr o trial tratas de dar lo mejor yo también fui mod y sr mod en un montón de servers, y con lo de más staffs creo que estas mal casi la mayoría de staffs ahora son del uk y muy pocos del east como decían antes y tienen razón, tendrían que hacer nuevas staff apps pero solo para personas del east.
< y con lo de más staffs creo que estas mal casi la mayoría de staffs ahora son del uk >
La mayoría? No se de donde sacaste esa información. Los únicos moderadores actuales son Tazz y Auratixx. Entonces, si la gente quiere aplicar para moderador y no son del "east" como tu dices, no pueden aplicar?
Honestly, I would agree that maybe a little bit more staff might help, but honestly the staff we do have are higher quality than most servers, so you hardly have anything to complain about.
Si lo es, es ridículo que pienses que este servidor o cualquier otro tenga staff 24/7 lo cual es imposible, recuerda que ellos hacen esto gratis, por lo tanto no tiene horarios pero si un tiempo de horas determinados al día, que no haya staff a la hora que tu quieras o en ese momento solamente llámalo excepción.
Honestly, I would agree that maybe a little bit more staff might help, but honestly the staff we do have are higher quality than most servers, so you hardly have anything to complain about.
not everyone in the staff have a rlly high quality, as i said before there are a few a staff that are rlly good like piez, clock, camemes, and sometimes junr.
Si lo es, es ridículo que pienses que este servidor o cualquier otro tenga staff 24/7 lo cual es imposible, recuerda que ellos hacen esto gratis, por lo tanto no tiene horarios pero si un tiempo de horas determinados al día, que no haya staff a la hora que tu quieras o en ese momento solamente llámalo excepción.
imposible no es, y como le dije a diego no es cuando yo juego o solo una idea mia, mira el todo el post y vas a ver que no soy solo yo o solo cuando yo juego :)
not everyone in the staff have a rlly high quality, as i said before there are a few a staff that are rlly good like piez, clock, camemes, and sometimes junr.
How about you go play on other similar servers and compare the staff? We have a very efficient staff team and all you do is whine about it.
I'm not going to be rude about this, but you guys are complaining a lot about the staff team needing more member in other timezones. I agree with this, but if we are going to be honest, do we really want some of them as a staff member? Are they mature enough, do they know enough about hack detection, are they really going to do any better then what it is now? I haven't been on very often during the night in my time, because I'm normally asleep, but from the little I've seen there are very few mature people during those hours. There are definitely not any that stood out to me as staff member material.
Sometimes you have to make a choice between having a hacker online for 30 minutes or having a staff member who will be very immature and may not even really know what they are doing. The first option is much better, not only because that person could false ban a lot of people, but it also makes the staff team as a whole look bad. With this topic already in question, that's not something anyone wants right now.
I'm not going to be rude about this, but you guys are complaining a lot about the staff team needing more member in other timezones. I agree with this, but if we are going to be honest, do we really want some of them as a staff member? Are they mature enough, do they know enough about hack detection, are they really going to do any better then what it is now? I haven't been on very often during the night in my time, because I'm normally asleep, but from the little I've seen there are very few mature people during those hours. There are definitely not any that stood out to me as staff member material.
Sometimes you have to make a choice between having a hacker online for 30 minutes or having a staff member who will be very immature and may not even really know what they are doing. The first option is much better, not only because that person could false ban a lot of people, but it also makes the staff team as a whole look bad. With this topic already in question, that's not something anyone wants right now.
Timezonist =_= People living in different time zones are the same! :P
hmm, so it appears that 1/3rd of the mod team seems to be on leave as well...
Currently it is exam times for a large portion of the staff here, myself included. Which is why, or at least why I took a leave, most people are on leave ATM (to focus on studies all that).
Currently it is exam times for a large portion of the staff here, myself included. Which is why, or at least why I took a leave, most people are on leave ATM (to focus on studies all that).
This should pretty much clear up by February.
Speaking from experience, the EU timezone is not going to improve. Even when myself and several other mods were moderating we would have periods where no one would be on. As previously suggested, opening up applications for only people in the Eastern Hemisphere or Europe would not be a bad idea.
Also, this thread is amazing. Its like the old days. Mods defending themselves with everyone flaming top notch 10/10.
This sums it up, they will NOT demote inactive people, whether you are a ref, media, mod, sr mod whatever, BUT if you do anything they don't like or break a "rule" no matter how active you are doneso. There's a SR mod who hasn't been on in 3 months and they said "oh we warned him" probably 3/4 of the media/red team is never on, they aren't really required until tournament, but even last tournament they weren't. NOT ONE has been demoted
This sums it up, they will NOT demote inactive people, whether you are a ref, media, mod, sr mod whatever, BUT if you do anything they don't like or break a "rule" no matter how active you are doneso. There's a SR mod who hasn't been on in 3 months and they said "oh we warned him" probably 3/4 of the media/red team is never on, they aren't really required until tournament, but even last tournament they weren't. NOT ONE has been demoted
This sums it up, they will NOT demote inactive people, whether you are a ref, media, mod, sr mod whatever, BUT if you do anything they don't like or break a "rule" no matter how active you are doneso. There's a SR mod who hasn't been on in 3 months and they said "oh we warned him" probably 3/4 of the media/red team is never on, they aren't really required until tournament, but even last tournament they weren't. NOT ONE has been demoted
If you're gonna call people out for things at least know why it is that way and know both sides. Don't be like people in the past that blurt out the first thing that come to their mind instead of researching the issue
If you're gonna call people out for things at least know why it is that way and know both sides. Don't be like people in the past that blurt out the first thing that come to their mind instead of researching the issue
if I knew both sides someone would of had to leaked, which means demoted
*sigh* As you all know, staff are human. Most of us have school every, if not most, days. We don't do this as a job. We don't get paid. We do this because we want to help the community, and what payment do we get? A forum post saying that the whole staff team is a joke... What a fucking deal, sign me up! Wanna know what I find a joke? How most of us try and try, and when some of us get a well deserved break for school, we all get blamed because it took 30 minutes to ban one hacker. I understand it sounds bad but you gotta understand, we aren't robots, we are human beings who have lives outside of this server and this game.
Oh, you had homework, assignments and anything that will help progress your future outside of a block game instead of moderating? No one in their right mind would say, "This essay I have due tomorrow can wait, I have to moderate Avicus!" They don't. We all prioritize our real lives over Avicus, and it will always be like that
Trying to balance moderating with school, work, a social life and all the rest is easier said than done. We can't be on all day, everyday. As good as it sounds, it will never happen.
This sums it up, they will NOT demote inactive people, whether you are a ref, media, mod, sr mod whatever, BUT if you do anything they don't like or break a "rule" no matter how active you are doneso. There's a SR mod who hasn't been on in 3 months and they said "oh we warned him" probably 3/4 of the media/red team is never on, they aren't really required until tournament, but even last tournament they weren't. NOT ONE has been demoted
We have demoted inactive people. However someone leaking confidential information is very different to not being on for a month and having leave. You can't compare the two. They're at two different sides of the scale...
We have demoted inactive people. However someone leaking confidential information is very different to not being on for a month and having leave. You can't compare the two. They're at two different sides of the scale...
And also, we don't manage tournament staff.
oh i understand now
demoting people for leaking super unimportant information that relates only to them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>demoting people for inactivity
We have demoted inactive people. However someone leaking confidential information is very different to not being on for a month and having leave. You can't compare the two. They're at two different sides of the scale...
And also, we don't manage tournament staff.
If someone is going to be gone for that long, they need to retire until they come back for the community knows they are not responsible for their position while on leave. I'll believe it when I see it
If someone is going to be gone for that long, they need to retire until they come back for the community knows they are not responsible for their position while on leave. I'll believe it when I see it
Y bueno man todos en chat ponen que el staff es una mierda pero nadie hace nada más que eso y es verdad que el staff es una verga unos pocos nomas se conectan
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