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Regarding certain behaviour by FrozenSolstice December 16, 2014 at 7:12 AM UTC

Hey everyone,

Today, I'm going to be talking about something a bit glum. But I encourage everyone to read this. Please note that this is NOT an attention seeking post.

Lately, I've noticed an increase of inappropriate jokes (rape jokes). I'd like to point out that this can be a very sensitive topic for some people, me included. Many of the players that make these jokes probably do not realise the damage these 'jokes' can do. I've gotten them alot, from multiple people, and I would like to state that I was almost raped a couple of years back. These comments stir up memories that I do not need. Mods do a great job at keeping these people at bay, but they can't be on 24/7. I'd just like to make this known, if it isn't already.

So, think before you type. "Is this really what I want to do? Why do I want to say this?"

Thanks for reading,

-Sky

HereIwas December 16, 2014 at 7:12 AM UTC

Ok.

Notalgicular December 16, 2014 at 7:12 AM UTC

Sorry about your past, I don't use them, but I don't think this thread is gonna make any difference to the amount of rape jokes on avicus. (I don't see much anyway.)
Its like calling things cancer and ebola. Yes, its very offensive, but people still do it.

FrozenSolstice December 16, 2014 at 7:12 AM UTC

Sorry about your past, I don't use them, but I don't think this thread is gonna make any difference to the amount of rape jokes on avicus. (I don't see much anyway.)
Its like calling things cancer and ebola. Yes, its very offensive, but people still do it.
Thanks.
I don't expect people to stop either, but I just want to make people aware.

JKawesome December 16, 2014 at 8:12 AM UTC

Thanks for posting this. Some people really need to learn to control their speech.

Coco_stag December 16, 2014 at 9:12 AM UTC

Yes _Skygirl I know I was doing rude jokes and rude sayings and I'm very sorry

SnowSX3 December 16, 2014 at 10:12 AM UTC

I seriously admire the huge amount of courage it must have taken you to write this Sky.
I fully agree with every point you've raised.

EinfachNalor December 16, 2014 at 10:12 AM UTC

Good point there. personally I domnt do those kind of jks or anything, but they really go on my nerves(I dont know if the last bit is correct grammar, but its from a german  sentence"auf die Nerven gehen")

Doppelganger_ December 16, 2014 at 1:12 PM UTC

I'm sorry about your past.

But consider the amount of people on the forums and the ones who aren't on the forums and I'm sorry to say this the Internet trolls will be trolls if it really bothers you and mods aren't there just turn off your chat.

resepignev December 16, 2014 at 1:12 PM UTC

Good point there. personally I domnt do those kind of jks or anything, but they really go on my nerves(I dont know if the last bit is correct grammar, but its from a german  sentence"auf die Nerven gehen")
Yea it's right from what I know xD And yes sky you are right. I never saw someone making these kind of jokes and I never made such a joke, but if I see someone doing it I'll report them.

IviFetita December 16, 2014 at 1:12 PM UTC

I think the same, Sky.
I feel you for your past, and I'm very sorry about it.
I think the people have to read it, and stop saying that type of stupid jokes, they are very inappropriate and totally unnecessary for what a pvp server is. I'd love these guys who do it think about it and how can one of that jokes makes the day of someone unhappy and that they're wasting time on it.
But also, thank you sky for be very strong and tell it to us, you are a great person for write it and post it. This surely will help the world to be a better place. :)

Stimulating December 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

Yeah. It is really inappropriate and I'm sorry about what happened. I know someone in my school last year got raped once and almost again (not her fault whatsoever), and it really tears you apart as a person. This is nothing to joke about and I cringe at the thought of such jokes being made. I feel like this is a sensitive topic and should be taken seriously and punishments handed out accordingly. I have no experience with such, but I know what those experiences can do do a person and I really wish the best for you and hope that such jokes are not used in the future. Thanks for alerting staff this is happening on my behalf and the community's. It really is bothersome that this is happening. 

Thanks for coming out and saying such, not to be cheesy, but that's pretty damn brave of you for coming out and saying that. Even if it is over a screen. Much respect. 

-ShadowSlayerZ7

S3M3L December 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

Did they attack you in-game? Do you have screenshots of it or do you remember their name? If you do, you shouldn't hesitate to report them, every player who attacked you with these stupid jokes. I want to see the staff do everything they can to stop it, right now, if I so need to talk sense into them.

I don't really understand how it could be fun to joke about something like rape, especially to joke about it with someone who has been a victim (or almost been a victim) of it. No offense to you now Notalgicular, but, is it really that fun to joke about it? What do you get out of it?

I can't say I understand how it affects someone who has been a victim of it, but I knew a person way back in 2009 who was, a person who couldn't handle emotions and decided to end her life.

I think it's really strong of you __SkyGirl__9 and how you keep your head up yet today admires me! I also agree with you, you shouldn't be reminded of it, even if it has been years ago since it happened.

Notalgicular December 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

Did they attack you in-game? Do you have screenshots of it or do you remember their name? If you do, you shouldn't hesitate to report them, every player who attacked you with these stupid jokes. I want to see the staff do everything they can to stop it, right now, if I so need to talk sense into them.

I don't really understand how it could be fun to joke about something like rape, especially to joke about it with someone who has been a victim (or almost been a victim) of it. No offense to you now Notalgicular, but, is it really that fun to joke about it? What do you get out of it?

I can't say I understand how it affects someone who has been a victim of it, but I knew a person way back in 2009 who was, a person who couldn't handle emotions and decided to end her life.

I think it's really strong of you __SkyGirl__9 and how you keep your head up yet today admires me! I also agree with you, you shouldn't be reminded of it, even if it has been years ago since it happened.
When did I say it was good to joke about it? I said people DO joke about it, which they do. I never said I do and I never said it was funny.

S3M3L December 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

When did I say it was good to joke about it? I said people DO joke about it, which they do. I never said I do and I never said it was funny.
It's enough for me to quote you.

"I'll personally stop using them".

I'll is a contraction of I will. Why will you stop "using rape jokes" when you "never" joke about it? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Notalgicular December 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

It's enough for me to quote you.

"I'll personally stop using them".

I'll is a contraction of I will. Why will you stop "using rape jokes" when you "never" joke about it? It doesn't make any sense to me.
Correct, I never joke about and I will proceed never to do so.

S3M3L December 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

Correct, I never joke about and I will proceed never to do so.
I'm surprised how you edited your post where you admitted you do joke about rape.

Notalgicular December 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM UTC

I'm surprised how you edited your post where you admitted you do joke about rape.
No, I worded it wrong.

Thomas_Shoe December 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM UTC

Oh please.  Attack you in game? It's a minecraft server, don't take these insults seriously.

JKawesome December 16, 2014 at 8:12 PM UTC

Oh please.  Attack you in game? It's a minecraft server, don't take these insults seriously.
Trust me. If you've had that kind of history, and someone makes those jokes, it hurts just as much as if they said it in real life.

QFrog December 16, 2014 at 8:12 PM UTC

Thats the minecraft community for ya, no one truly cares about others.

lactify December 16, 2014 at 8:12 PM UTC

This should be marked as "Important" as I find this all true.

Thomas_Shoe December 16, 2014 at 8:12 PM UTC

Oh didn't see that part JK!  Sorry! 
I can't imagine how terrible it is

lactify December 16, 2014 at 9:12 PM UTC

Oh didn't see that part JK!  Sorry! 
I can't imagine how terrible it is
I guessing you didn't read the whole thread....

Thomas_Shoe December 16, 2014 at 9:12 PM UTC

Ok?

FrozenSolstice December 16, 2014 at 9:12 PM UTC

Thanks for your support and understanding guys :)

BoldAndBrash December 16, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

*cough* PewDiePie *cough*

And people ask why I hate him. 

Anyways, youre right Sky. :) And yeah, i know this was directed at avicus people

OriginaI December 16, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

OK so I'm ready for some hate, but...

If you play a online game you have to be ready for this kind of stuff , after all, theirs always going to be a insulter, if you cant handle some of this stuff you shouldn't really be playing a online game. Now, I understand you have "almost" experienced it,but just get over it.

*I didn't mean this to be mean, sorry if it was :/

Thomas_Shoe December 16, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

OK so I'm ready for some hate, but...

If you play a online game you have to be ready for this kind of stuff , after all, theirs always going to be a insulter, if you cant handle some of this stuff you shouldn't really be playing a online game. Now, I understand you have "almost" experienced it,but just get over it.

*I didn't mean this to be mean, sorry if it was :/
I agree with how you should expect to hear this stuff, but you can't really get over rape, it scars you.

OriginaI December 16, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

I agree with how you should expect to hear this stuff, but you can't really get over rape, it scars you.
I'm not saying get over the rape, I'm saying don't take offense to some 9 year old kid that said "Wow, I love when I rape you."

Thomas_Shoe December 16, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

I'm not saying get over the rape, I'm saying don't take offense to some 9 year old kid that said "Wow, I love when I rape you."
Ohhhhh Tru

Stimulating December 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM UTC

I'm not saying get over the rape, I'm saying don't take offense to some 9 year old kid that said "Wow, I love when I rape you."
That's still bringing up the memories of that bad time. I'm sure everyone's opinion would change a little if they were a victim (I'm not a victim. Just to clarify). A lot of people are seriously changed after. At a mention of it, depending on the person and situation, etc. could have a complete emotional breakdown because of the upbringing of such memories. So it does matter when someone says it, regardless of age, intelligence or maturity, because it's a super touchey topic and something that seriously affects you as a person.

JOHN_CENAAAAAAAA December 17, 2014 at 12:12 AM UTC

Thanks for bringing this up, I personally will beef up my strictness regarding this in-game, on the forums, and on TS.

FrozenSolstice December 17, 2014 at 9:12 AM UTC

OK so I'm ready for some hate, but...

If you play a online game you have to be ready for this kind of stuff , after all, theirs always going to be a insulter, if you cant handle some of this stuff you shouldn't really be playing a online game. Now, I understand you have "almost" experienced it,but just get over it.

*I didn't mean this to be mean, sorry if it was :/
Yeah, well. Like Shadow said, you can't really escape memories. I understand that this stuff happens online. Even in the real world people poke fun at me because of this. I'm just like "wtf it wasn't even my fault." So, I learned to deal with it. But I can't get over memories, not many people can.
I guess it might be hard to understand, but trust me, it is not easy to "get over it", no matter who the comment is coming from.

Pelpelajax December 17, 2014 at 9:12 AM UTC

As Sulorak said, thanks for bringing this up. Just like most other rude jokes, jokes like these will not be tolerated. If you see someone make jokes like this, don't be afraid to report them, in game or on the forums. Thanks!

badgg December 17, 2014 at 10:12 AM UTC

Noted pretty much all the content on this thread.

S3M3L December 17, 2014 at 11:12 AM UTC

I'm not saying get over the rape, I'm saying don't take offense to some 9 year old kid that said "Wow, I love when I rape you."
You know, it isn't just 9 year old kids who joke about it, just take a look at ************. I have seen well known players on Avicus who joke about it and they sure are not 9 year old, I would say at least 15 - 16. I'm also surprised how they are allowed to joke about it, then again, of course they are as they are well known.

JOHN_CENAAAAAAAA December 18, 2014 at 3:12 AM UTC

You know, it isn't just 9 year old kids who joke about it, just take a look at ************. I have seen well known players on Avicus who joke about it and they sure are not 9 year old, I would say at least 15 - 16. I'm also surprised how they are allowed to joke about it, then again, of course they are as they are well known.
You're putting "well known" into the wrong context.
Not punishing people due to popularity is a common form of bias, and biased Moderators get demoted.

Coco_stag December 18, 2014 at 4:12 AM UTC

Sulorak dont mods punishing for no reason get demoted

JOHN_CENAAAAAAAA December 18, 2014 at 4:12 AM UTC

Sulorak dont mods punishing for no reason get demoted
If it becomes excessive and cruel, yes.

ImJeezus December 18, 2014 at 4:12 AM UTC

It's the f*cking internet, you really can't stop this, not to be rude.

JOHN_CENAAAAAAAA December 18, 2014 at 5:12 AM UTC

It's the f*cking internet, you really can't stop this, not to be rude.
/ban
That usually makes it stop pretty fast.

AutoHit December 18, 2014 at 5:12 AM UTC

I agree with this, thanks for posting this subject/topic.

kycrafft December 18, 2014 at 6:12 AM UTC

This kind of stuff speaks volumes about the age of the community

badgg December 18, 2014 at 6:12 AM UTC

Wait, you don't bother to file an online report?

SnowSX3 December 18, 2014 at 6:12 AM UTC

Wait, you don't bother to file an online report?
It's more of a general topic for the public.
To shed some light on the issue.

FrozenSolstice December 18, 2014 at 6:12 AM UTC

Yeah, I'm going to file reports when my computer has access to the internet again.

But as Snow said, this is just a general topic.

RightSide December 18, 2014 at 6:12 AM UTC

Okaii

S3M3L December 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM UTC

You're putting "well known" into the wrong context.
Not punishing people due to popularity is a common form of bias, and biased Moderators get demoted.
I'm sorry to say it, but yes, well known players are not punished just because they are well known.

S3M3L December 18, 2014 at 10:12 AM UTC

Okaii
Please refrain from posting if your post are not contributing to the topic. Thomas_Shoe too, you shouldn't post if you haven't even read the first post.

SnowSX3 December 18, 2014 at 11:12 AM UTC

I'm sorry to say it, but yes, well known players are not punished just because they are well known.
I doubt it.
You don't know the full situation when a player does or does not get punished.

Moderators have reasons when deciding to punish somebody or not.

FrozenSolstice December 18, 2014 at 9:12 PM UTC

I'm sorry to say it, but yes, well known players are not punished just because they are well known.
Sadly, I do have to agree with you there, it doesn't happen all the time, but it happens more often than not.

Mooch24 December 18, 2014 at 9:12 PM UTC

rape -> favoritism

we need a full loop to bring by bringing it back to bill cosby

wyliemason1614 December 18, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

I just want to say that I am only 10 years old and I have been seeing this a lot lately so I think you did the right thing sky, and the only thing I can do to get the ones doing this to stop is to say stop. Besides it's not like we can show our emotions through the computer.

Stimulating December 18, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

I'm sorry to say it, but yes, well known players are not punished just because they are well known.
This is true. I mean if you banned all the regs the server would have an issue, but still... 

Anyways, this is kinda off topic and I would like to keep the spam on a post like this to the minimum, as I really feel that this is an important topic :)

TheMasterClock December 18, 2014 at 10:12 PM UTC

I am feel really sorry about your past and the people who do these should get punsihed.