My Demotion. by SnowSX3 December 25, 2015 at 7:12 AM UTC
I'm not leaving so chill xDAs many of you have noticed, I got demoted.
So I thought I'd talk about that today.
I was demoted for a number of reasons.
Inaccurate hack detection;
Rudeness, disrespect and arguing on the forums
Unsatisfactory forum moderating.
And possibly other reasons that I've missed.
I guess I'll put this here, it might be easier than explaining everything in a big essay..
( By the way, I'm laughing not because I'm finding anything funny, it's just what I do during conversations. I guess it's something I've always done.
I'm weird like that.
If you've talked to me on TeamSpeak you'd have probably already noticed that I laugh a lot so there you go xD )
I was demoted after being in the staff team for around 9 and a half months.
Promoted to Junior Moderator on 26/1/2015
Promoted to Moderator on 14/2/2015
Retired from Moderator on 28/9/2015
Returned to Moderator on 15/11/2015
Demoted from Moderator on 25/12/2015
It sucks to leave the staff team on a bad note via a demotion but that's life.
I guess my stupid mouth caught up with me in the end. I was never one to just sit by and watch when something stupid happens.
I always spoke my mind to anyone about anything, I wasn't intimidated by anyone and put my reputation on the line multiple times to stand up for what (I thought at least) was right. I guess I should have learnt when it was appropriate to talk and when to just stay out of it xD
I've had a ton of ups and downs during my time as staff but it truly has been a fun ride and I've appreciated every single moment I've shared with everyone during my time as staff. I've learnt quite a bit.
I have no intention of re-joining the staff team in the foreseeable future.
Thanks for listening.
Porkyyy December 25, 2015 at 7:12 AM UTC
Interesting how Para is telling you that you're the bad one at detecting hacks.Anyways, I don't agree with this, but thanks for all the work Snow :)
PokerFace December 25, 2015 at 7:12 AM UTC
Thanks for standing up for what you believe in. I really enjoyed seeing you fight for what's right on the forums!ALM December 25, 2015 at 7:12 AM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
xNemoII December 25, 2015 at 7:12 AM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.
You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
SnowSX3 December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.
You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
I published the video because it would be easier for people to listen to a conversation as opposed to listening to me babbling on any more than I have too.
I assume Para is fine with it, I didn't get his consent because it's about my demotion and as far as I'm aware, I give myself consent to publicise my demotion xD
Demotion threads have been allowed on the forums in the past.
DaFrozenBlaze December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.
You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
zero9178 December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
I also care and I can confirm that snow laughs all the time when he is talking, it's hilarious xddhasl December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.
You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
PieZ December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
Let's get back on topic please. Gl in your future endeavours Snow.kycrafft December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
Darn you were with the staff team for so long, it's hard to believe you aren't a part of it anymore. It's sad to go a negative note, but hey you put in a lot of work toward the staff team and Avicus.Aphelion December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
You could at least have been honest, lmao.DaFrozenBlaze December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
I guess some people are REALLY happy that you are gone...I myself do not agree with your demotion, but things happen. Thanks for your hard work and dedication. Look on the bright side, you can mini Mod again! Good luck with whatever you have planned in the future.
pope_panda December 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM UTC
merry christmas!JDKL December 25, 2015 at 9:12 AM UTC
Don't worry, a bunch of crap reasons are always brought up :P Some that aren't even true!SmokeJamo December 25, 2015 at 9:12 AM UTC
Stupid demotion in my opinion you were active and ACTUALY HELPED. Great mod would love you on the server I'm staff on great person nice and I think what you did in the forums was fine, the people were being stupid or you guys were having funAstroPizza December 25, 2015 at 9:12 AM UTC
Stll don't get why they would do it on Christmas :(GuyNamedRiley December 25, 2015 at 9:12 AM UTC
:( I still disagree with this seeing as how I have seen some other staff members (seniors included) say some some bad things on the forums and ingame. Anyways, hopefully we can still do our thing on island clash and such! Good Luck man! :DEteh December 25, 2015 at 9:12 AM UTC
I don't agree with your demotion. You were a really good moderator, in my opinion. At least you can play with me more often now. Good luck with whatever you have planned for your future, thanks for everything Snow, keep in touch :)shadowolfyt December 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM UTC
Thanks for all the great work you have done Snow.You have done a great job my friend!
Coco_stag December 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM UTC
Bullshit...Snow was one of the only moderators who doesn't give a fuck, he stood up. He wasn't a moderator who hid in their hidey hole, just so they don't get demoted. Some of the reasons may be true, but you need more moderators like snow.
Capenage December 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.
You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
You are the one creating the fucking drama back off
Goodnighht December 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM UTC
I thought you were a great modorater, but lifeis life I guess. ;p Good luck in what ever is next. :D Never knowwhat will happen. :)
Petlas December 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.
You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
There's been other people explaining their own demotions and retirements before, but I haven't seen you making a post like this there.
Plus, this post saves having to explain what happened over and over for the next month. :P
Petlas December 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM UTC
Bullshit...
Snow was one of the only moderators who doesn't give a fuck, he stood up. He wasn't a moderator who hid in their hidey hole, just so they don't get demoted. Some of the reasons may be true, but you need more moderators like snow.
@OP: You already know how I feel about this demotion so I'm just going to step up and say well done and good luck for the future! (:
Jerseys December 25, 2015 at 11:12 AM UTC
You took that so well. I bet most of the staff would actually start crying...MasterProX December 25, 2015 at 11:12 AM UTC
Interesting how Para is telling you that you're the bad one at detecting hacks.
Anyways, I don't agree with this, but thanks for all the work Snow :)
Hate to see you go, Snow... in the past, though your performance on the forums may have been questionable at times, you always managed to pull through in the end, but unfortunately that didn't happen this time (and on Christmas, too, what luckless and poor spirit). At least you were more active on the website in a day than I've been throughout my entirety as staff... I'll see you around.
Jerseys December 25, 2015 at 11:12 AM UTC
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it doesn't take someone with perfect hack detection abilities to point out that another person has been statistically — Snow's probably rolling his eyes right now — proven not to have an ideal success rate with valid bans... falling below a certain standard is simply a fact. That's how criticism often works; the critic doesn't necessarily have to be the best at something to tell others that they're not doing well. I personally have no knowledge of the false bans Snow might have actually made, but if the senior staff determined that he wasn't up to par, then, well, so be it.
Hate to see you go, Snow... in the past, though your performance on the forums may have been questionable at times, you always managed to pull through in the end, but unfortunately that didn't happen this time (and on Christmas, too, what luckless and poor spirit). At least you were more active on the website in a day than I've been throughout my entirety as staff... I'll see you around.
Javipepe December 25, 2015 at 11:12 AM UTC
Sorry mate, thanks a lot for your hard work :'(I personally didn't vote neither in favor or against you; mostly because it was done while I was sleeping and when I woke up there was already a quite strong verdict.
Hope you can come back some day, see you mate!
TurkishDelite December 25, 2015 at 11:12 AM UTC
Who the fuck would demote someone on Christmas...thanks Snow for contributing a lot to this server and good luck in the future
SnowSX3 December 25, 2015 at 11:12 AM UTC
I think the whole Christmas demotion thing was just a case of bad timing.It's a good thing I'm not festive or religious xD
_Nathy December 25, 2015 at 12:12 PM UTC
Tbh I wasn't a massive fan of yours until about a month ago when I considered going for a staff position. Up until I was faced with the fact that I might soon be accepted to be in the shoes of a mod I can say that I had been extremely ignorant of how a staff member thinks.A few weeks ago you gave me the final bit of inspiration and courage I needed to apply for staff. It was on a game on rendezvous and me and Possy were being treated to the delight that is Snow bowspam. I can still remember the ts banter as we failed over and over again to get past you.
It was then I realised I'd judged you too quickly and that I'd never actually took the time to get to know you at all.
You were one of the most active mods and please know that most of us won't forget what you've done for the server.
Thank you Snow, I owe you for all you've taught me and I hope that all I do in my time as a mod will make you proud.
Nath
SnowSX3 December 25, 2015 at 12:12 PM UTC
Tbh I wasn't a massive fan of yours until about a month ago when I considered going for a staff position. Up until I was faced with the fact that I might soon be accepted to be in the shoes of a mod I can say that I had been extremely ignorant of how a staff member thinks.
A few weeks ago you gave me the final bit of inspiration and courage I needed to apply for staff. It was on a game on rendezvous and me and Possy were being treated to the delight that is Snow bowspam. I can still remember the ts banter as we failed over and over again to get past you.
It was then I realised I'd judged you too quickly and that I'd never actually took the time to get to know you at all.
You were one of the most active mods and please know that most of us won't forget what you've done for the server.
Thank you Snow, I owe you for all you've taught me and I hope that all I do in my time as a mod will make you proud.
Nath
I already am proud of what you've accomplished, you exceeded all of my expectations when you were a Junior. I was so happy to see you get promoted.
I know you'll go far in the staff team Nath mate :D
vladthegreat100 December 25, 2015 at 1:12 PM UTC
"And for a normal player that would have been a punishment" - Para(5 min in)
Staff over certain rules confirmed!?!?!?
Either way, sad to see ya get demoted. Never saw anything wrong except forum behaviour to be bad
AtditC December 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
Inaccurate hack detection;only this is true ^^
GrapeSmoothie December 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
"And for a normal player that would have been a punishment" - Para
(5 min in)
Staff over certain rules confirmed!?!?!?
Either way, sad to see ya get demoted. Never saw anything wrong except forum behaviour to be bad
Sevoo December 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
This is why I have never applied for staff. I'm just like you, I say my mind even if it offends people. I could never be staff without abusing powers, that's just me.Anyways, you were one of the only Staff that actually gave a shit imo, sad to see you got demoted. Thanks for your devotion.
Legoche December 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
This is EXACTLY why I retired.I knew most of this was coming, and more will come still.
AtditC December 25, 2015 at 2:12 PM UTC
This is EXACTLY why I retired.
I knew most of this was coming, and more will come still.
hasl December 25, 2015 at 3:12 PM UTC
Stop making assumptions and trying to start more drama that you can't back up
smitdalt December 25, 2015 at 4:12 PM UTC
"Sorry to bust you bubble" That line is my line. Only I can you use it.
Get memed
Caityyy December 25, 2015 at 5:12 PM UTC
Dude, do you really honestly think that anyone cares that you got demoted. You got demoted, deal with. This post is really a cry for attention and will only cause more drama. Also, you recorded a conversation that obviously wan't meant to be recorded and posted it for public view.
You got demoted, move on with life and don't create drama.
Porkyyy December 25, 2015 at 5:12 PM UTC
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it doesn't take someone with perfect hack detection abilities to point out that another person has been statistically — Snow's probably rolling his eyes right now — proven not to have an ideal success rate with valid bans... falling below a certain standard is simply a fact. That's how criticism often works; the critic doesn't necessarily have to be the best at something to tell others that they're not doing well. I personally have no knowledge of the false bans Snow might have actually made, but if the senior staff determined that he wasn't up to par, then, well, so be it.
Hate to see you go, Snow... in the past, though your performance on the forums may have been questionable at times, you always managed to pull through in the end, but unfortunately that didn't happen this time (and on Christmas, too, what luckless and poor spirit). At least you were more active on the website in a day than I've been throughout my entirety as staff... I'll see you around.
Emmaye December 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
You have no idea how it fucking feels, back off.
Iron December 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
Lmao it's just a rank on a block game, like people have said prior that being a staff member is just a player with a rank and more commands.
jkjkjkjkkj I agree though.
Glitchaye December 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM UTC
You have no idea how it fucking feels, back off.
ALM December 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
Sorry guys, I was tired when I made that postMyv December 25, 2015 at 8:12 PM UTC
tbh i've heard what you done a bit and I think you totally deserved it sorry.Sucks to be at such a nice time of year and I still respect you but you did, sorry.
gobernment December 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
You'd be surprised as to how many false bans Para has given out recently.
pope_panda December 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
Its not that bad
it's some serious shit
gobernment December 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
"And for a normal player that would have been a punishment" - Para
(5 min in)
Staff over certain rules confirmed!?!?!?
Either way, sad to see ya get demoted. Never saw anything wrong except forum behaviour to be bad
awesome_apricot December 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
*sees another post regarding avicus' somewhat endless staffing issues**grumbles*
*writes irritatingly opinionated and punctuated remark regarding such subject matter*
*profoundly refuses to be told otherwise*
*thread gets locked*
pretty much everyone :)
Iron December 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
*sees another post regarding avicus' somewhat endless staffing issues*
*grumbles*
*writes irritatingly opinionated and punctuated remark regarding such subject matter*
*profoundly refuses to be told otherwise*
*thread gets locked*
pretty much everyone :)
Iron December 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
Laddies, calling people out on this thread is not a good way to suggest improvements. We have this fora reason: https://avicus.net/forums/b9e124262No need for you lads to argue over here!
Personally I respect you as an individual snow, but in my opinion you were not the best of mods.
Good luck in your future endeavors with the staff team.
gobernment December 25, 2015 at 9:12 PM UTC
*sees another post regarding avicus' somewhat endless staffing issues*
*grumbles*
*writes irritatingly opinionated and punctuated remark regarding such subject matter*
*profoundly refuses to be told otherwise*
*thread gets locked*
pretty much everyone :)
JDKL December 25, 2015 at 10:12 PM UTC
I honestly don't mind if people express their opinion. It's when people decide to flip out and throw endless insults at users/mods under useless cause that posts get locked/archived. I am perfectly fine with hearing people give feedback, that's what the seniors have been stressing with all these feedback spreadsheets, forum threads, teamspeak talks and questions in the community slack.
Acceqted December 25, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
Well I would rather not turn this whole thread into a flame war so I am going to state my opinion, do not get all fussy over my reply. I personally think you were a great mod Snow, you would always help me throughout my trial and was always a blast to talk to. I'm going to miss you on the staff team but at least I can see you otherwise. I hope you will re apply and maybe see you on the staff team again. Just act they way you acted around me and I think everyone will enjoy your positive attitude! Good luck if you ever apply and I can't wait to talk to you again <33. ~Acceqted.P.S. Your laugh is amazing!
awesome_apricot December 25, 2015 at 11:12 PM UTC
I honestly don't mind if people express their opinion. It's when people decide to flip out and throw endless insults at users/mods under useless cause that posts get locked/archived. I am perfectly fine with hearing people give feedback, that's what the seniors have been stressing with all these feedback spreadsheets, forum threads, teamspeak talks and questions in the community slack.
Imagine a new person joins the forums and sees this...
Arguing..
NovaLikesPvP December 26, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
And mods that Don't even know what Bow Aimbot is or Autoclick are currently on The staff, that's why Avicus is sometimes shit, and I Don't care If any1 get annoyed with this comment, is Just that.MLGtino December 26, 2015 at 1:12 AM UTC
NovaLikesPvP December 26, 2015 at 2:12 AM UTC
gobernment December 26, 2015 at 2:12 AM UTC
And mods that Don't even know what Bow Aimbot is or Autoclick are currently on The staff, that's why Avicus is sometimes shit, and I Don't care If any1 get annoyed with this comment, is Just that.
NovaLikesPvP December 26, 2015 at 2:12 AM UTC
I seriously doubt that there are staff that don't know either of those, but if you would gladly give me a list to help me out or fill out the mod feedback, it'd help more than complaining on the forums.
Im not going to write the list for 3rd time cause It's going to be deleted again, lmao.
Ur welcome n.n!!!
gobernment December 26, 2015 at 2:12 AM UTC
Here's your gold list, babe.
Im not going to write the list for 3rd time cause It's going to be deleted again, lmao.
Ur welcome n.n!!!
NovaLikesPvP December 26, 2015 at 2:12 AM UTC
By list, I didn't mean publicly... editing out. Seniors can still see revisions though, so good enough?
SnowSX3 December 26, 2015 at 3:12 AM UTC
Can someone lock this please?I made this thread to inform the community why I got demoted, not so that a bunch of morons could start arguing at each other.
I truly do appreciate all the thank yous and well wishes but if people are just going to keep being idiots then I don't want my topic to continue.