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Pyro kit by EinfachNalor October 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM UTC

I have now very often heard the complain, that the kit Pyro in nexus is way to OP.

Also I have now often been insulted as a noob or coward or other, just because I use it. But if it is OP, why is it still in the choice? And why should I be a noob and bad PvPer just because I use it? Could the staff somehow clear it, because it is really annoying? Or change it, so that it isn't so good? Also, many are bothered by the fact, that it is only for donators.

I would like to see these things changed if possible, seeing as they ruin the game fun.

Greetings Forscher

faht October 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM UTC

REMOVE IT.

EinfachNalor October 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM UTC

Would be one option

faht October 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM UTC

My opinion: The kit is a way too op to be in lvl 24. Change this to lvl 36 and leather armour, then everyone would be happy.

EinfachNalor October 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM UTC

another option :)

Tarheelkiwi October 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM UTC

Is this because of me :P  DON'T REMOVE IT

Tarheelkiwi October 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM UTC

It really isn't that OP.  the axe has the strength of a stone sword.  all you have to do to beat a pyro is crit and strafe

Myv October 29, 2014 at 7:10 PM UTC

It isn't OP because it is a way of saying thank you for donating.

EinfachNalor October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

Is this because of me :P  DON'T REMOVE IT
It isn't because of you. There are just many who say that and som who then go aging at the person who uses it( in this case me)

EinfachNalor October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

And its just that many say that.  personally dont think it is Op either, but many do and I would like to see it cleared.

Syzygo October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

Maybe give it Leather Armour and a Stone Sword with Fire Aspect I

Porkyyy October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

Maybe give it Leather Armour and a Stone Sword with Fire Aspect I
Stone Sword & Fire Aspect I = Iron Axe & Fire Aspect I.

Syzygo October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

Stone Sword & Fire Aspect I = Iron Axe & Fire Aspect I.
I know, but I want to knockback XD

EinfachNalor October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

Stone sword would also be better for block hitting and co

Zedther October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

It isn't OP, People just see it as OP because of the fire aspect, like how people see Barbarian as OP because it has Diamond.

I personally love Pyro, dun take it away from me D:

Tarheelkiwi October 29, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

It isn't OP, People just see it as OP because of the fire aspect, like how people see Barbarian as OP because it has Diamond.

I personally love Pyro, dun take it away from me D:
LONG LIVE PYRO!!!!!!!

build_high October 29, 2014 at 9:10 PM UTC

Nerf the pyros armour ~ too strong for a kit with strong melee, change this to leather 
raise the level ~ for something that level it is very overpowered.

MLGtino October 29, 2014 at 9:10 PM UTC

It has the same armor as archer with the power of a stone sword and fire aspect.

Rest In Pepperoni all non-lowfire resource pack users.

goldenwalrus909 October 29, 2014 at 9:10 PM UTC

Maybe give it Leather Armour and a Stone Sword with Fire Aspect I
Oh, gosh, block-hitting to go along with that would not be a good combination xD 
Maybe make it so the fire aspect weapon wouldn't do very much damage and the weapon used for killing would be a golden sword..
Kinda like a Flaming Torch in Nebula, except it does a decent amount of damage :3

MLGtino October 29, 2014 at 9:10 PM UTC

Stone axe, Fire aspect, Full leather armor

Is that fair?

cinammoncroc000 October 29, 2014 at 10:10 PM UTC

I don't have a problem with Pyro, though I do see why some people dislike it. What I WOULD like, though, is to have an accessible pool of water near every team's spawn so I don't have to suffer fire damage after I get killed by a Pyro.

Honestly I think leather armor is nerfing it a bit too much, but that's just my personal preference.

Phobiaxx October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

Pyro really isn't op. Pyros can easily be defeated. It's the same case as barbarian, the kit isn't OP itself, but it's the players who make the kit seem OP. It's fine as it is ^-^

Stimulating October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

It really isn't that OP.  the axe has the strength of a stone sword.  all you have to do to beat a pyro is crit and strafe
Well it does that plus fire damage, that slows you if you don't have a key set to sprint, and it blinds you, and you're so hard to kill with chain that it isn't even funny. And the fire ends up doing more damage than a diamond sword I believe in the end. So yea, it's kinda completely broken.

cinammoncroc000 October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

Well it does that plus fire damage, that slows you if you don't have a key set to sprint, and it blinds you, and you're so hard to kill with chain that it isn't even funny. And the fire ends up doing more damage than a diamond sword I believe in the end. So yea, it's kinda completely broken.
I have to disagree with some of your points.

Yes, fire damage can be annoying, but most of the time you'll have a golden apple to mitigate that damage. I don't think it would end up doing more than a diamond sword in Nexus anyhow, mainly because of how fast-paced the game can be - you will most likely die to another player/the Pyro before fire damage has a major effect on you. In regards to being "blinded," most people use texture packs that feature low fire, so for most it's not a big deal anyways.

The fire breaking your sprint and the buffed armor is what makes Pyro deadly, though with a matter of skill and practice I think it's perfectly fine. Pyro can be dangerous, yes, but in the long run I do not think it is broken at all.

Stimulating October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

Pyro really isn't op. Pyros can easily be defeated. It's the same case as barbarian, the kit isn't OP itself, but it's the players who make the kit seem OP. It's fine as it is ^-^
Trust me, I see people who couldn't even touch me if we had the same kit, kill me with half heath. It literally has ridiculous amounts of damage and tankiness. It's the most broken kit in Nexus. 

Some argue Freezer is more OP. Tbh, no. It freezes you for 3 secs, in that time they have to walk over and kill you. I find a lot of the time I end up getting un-froze with half/quarter/third health and proceed to kill them. Freezer is OP but at least I can see and it does less damage and offers less defence.

Mooch24 October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

I have to disagree with some of your points.

Yes, fire damage can be annoying, but most of the time you'll have a golden apple to mitigate that damage. I don't think it would end up doing more than a diamond sword in Nexus anyhow, mainly because of how fast-paced the game can be - you will most likely die to another player/the Pyro before fire damage has a major effect on you. In regards to being "blinded," most people use texture packs that feature low fire, so for most it's not a big deal anyways.

The fire breaking your sprint and the buffed armor is what makes Pyro deadly, though with a matter of skill and practice I think it's perfectly fine. Pyro can be dangerous, yes, but in the long run I do not think it is broken at all.
no

the fire, op armour, and op weapon is what makes the class ruin the game

Stimulating October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

I have to disagree with some of your points.

Yes, fire damage can be annoying, but most of the time you'll have a golden apple to mitigate that damage. I don't think it would end up doing more than a diamond sword in Nexus anyhow, mainly because of how fast-paced the game can be - you will most likely die to another player/the Pyro before fire damage has a major effect on you. In regards to being "blinded," most people use texture packs that feature low fire, so for most it's not a big deal anyways.

The fire breaking your sprint and the buffed armor is what makes Pyro deadly, though with a matter of skill and practice I think it's perfectly fine. Pyro can be dangerous, yes, but in the long run I do not think it is broken at all.
I use a low fire texture pack, but what about the players who aren't as serious about PvP? It's kinda a bother to install and find a low fire texture pack just so you don't get rekt by Pyro...and a lot of times I find myself out of golden apples anyways. The same could be said about using Snake over Warrior. Why use the poison damage when you could have upfront damage? Because it's the same in the end and it gives added benefits to it as well (poison damage interrupting sprint). Pyro offers the best defence you can get with very high offensive levels which allow you to dive into the enemy team and kill 1+ people before getting killed. 

I have the skill to beat most players on Avicus to be blunt, you know this. Yet it's still difficult because that fire ends up doing so much, just as Snake would. You can eat an apple, but in the middle of a fight you can't exactly do this. You require the same+ amount of apples anyways.

Arachadonic October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

It's basically the Heavy class but with the fire aspect. If it changed places with heavy in terms of the levels then it would make sense as it would then become one of the last classes to unlock.

Phobiaxx October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

@Shadow Meh, I don't have low-fire, but I'm still fine :P ^-^
Also, pyro does damage overtime, so as long as you have a good amount of gapples...

Stimulating October 29, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

@Shadow Meh, I don't have low-fire, but I'm still fine :P ^-^
Also, pyro does damage overtime, so as long as you have a good amount of gapples...
As I said, does the same damage in the end...and mid fight...

kycrafft October 30, 2014 at 2:10 AM UTC

It's OP.

kycrafft October 30, 2014 at 2:10 AM UTC

Look, here are the reasons of its OPness

1. It's got better armor than normal (it's literally heavy but at level 24 and fire aspect!)
2. Did I mention it's level 24? That's not very hard to reach, especially with an xp multiplier and outclasses all kits near it
3. The fire. Yeah high fire can be annoying but it has bigger problems. You can't run away because you are on fire, the fire breaks your sprint and messes up your combos which can cause you to get rekt, and it will do extra damage both during the fight and after death, taking down your health and leaving you vulnerable to other players even if you get the kill.

I would rather fight a barbarian than a pyro.

BoldAndBrash October 30, 2014 at 2:10 AM UTC

Step 1:  Make armor gold chest and boots and the rest leather.

Step 2: Stone Axe Fire I

Step 3: Whatever funky does, people will still find ways to hate the kit XD gg

kycrafft October 30, 2014 at 2:10 AM UTC

Step 1:  Make armor gold chest and boots and the rest leather.

Step 2: Stone Axe Fire I

Step 3: Whatever funky does, people will still find ways to hate the kit XD gg
No one hates snake or archer

ballzi October 30, 2014 at 6:10 AM UTC

Donors are like god on Avicus :P

EinfachNalor October 30, 2014 at 1:10 PM UTC

No one hates snake or archer
actually I h8 archer :P

Mooch24 October 30, 2014 at 7:10 PM UTC

Donors are like god on Avicus :P
lol

no

IamSUPERMAN2007 October 30, 2014 at 7:10 PM UTC

lol

no
BALLZI is right. Donors are god because mopsi303 is one. But  the non-donators have jannerboy.

jannerboy vs. mopsi. Who will win?  http://strawpoll.me/2891824

fazer153 October 30, 2014 at 7:10 PM UTC

I agree that pyro is a bit op, but i'd still fight a pyro rather than a barbarian.
I mean, i get a 4 hit combo on a barbarian, they hit crit me twice, i lose 9 hearts and well after that it's just who gets the last hit.

Stimulating October 30, 2014 at 8:10 PM UTC

What sucks Is that it makes the only combo I can use on Avicus harder to use then normal because of the constantly breaking sprint, (I have two, Hybrid blockhit 8-block and the Zigzag combo I made up) which is my Zigzag combo.

jojobloblo October 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM UTC

It's not OP people just think it's OP because that's their first thought when they see fire. It's really not that incredible. One thing you could do though is just give it to non-donors as well. Then it's not pay2win which nobody likes

Mooch24 October 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM UTC

It's not OP people just think it's OP because that's their first thought when they see fire. It's really not that incredible. One thing you could do though is just give it to non-donors as well. Then it's not pay2win which nobody likes
all in all

its pretty much kit tank +barbarian + fire

Notalgicular October 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

noob coward

Notalgicular October 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

Pyro really isn't op. Pyros can easily be defeated. It's the same case as barbarian, the kit isn't OP itself, but it's the players who make the kit seem OP. It's fine as it is ^-^
yea, no its op

Doppelganger_ October 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

It is too stronk. Pls nerf the armour the axe isn't too bad I guess. BUT please fix the f**king fire glitch for the love of god

P.S: I don't think anything will happen. Let me ask you a question. How many good ideas have been in the forums?A lot. How many have even been implemented/fixed? Pretty much none.

Stimulating October 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

It's not OP people just think it's OP because that's their first thought when they see fire. It's really not that incredible. One thing you could do though is just give it to non-donors as well. Then it's not pay2win which nobody likes
I'd rather have it removed tbh. But this is a great idea. It feels too pay-to-win.

Stimulating October 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM UTC

It is too stronk. Pls nerf the armour the axe isn't too bad I guess. BUT please fix the f**king fire glitch for the love of god

P.S: I don't think anything will happen. Let me ask you a question. How many good ideas have been in the forums?A lot. How many have even been implemented/fixed? Pretty much none.
I'd be ok with the kit if the damage from the axe wasn't so high. The fire does all the damage in the end. It ticks rapidly over a relatively long period of time doing half a heart each time. The fire damage ends up doing as much damage as the Axe itself and maybe more.

Doppelganger_ October 31, 2014 at 1:10 AM UTC

I'd be ok with the kit if the damage from the axe wasn't so high. The fire does all the damage in the end. It ticks rapidly over a relatively long period of time doing half a heart each time. The fire damage ends up doing as much damage as the Axe itself and maybe more.
refer to my p.s.

EinfachNalor October 31, 2014 at 3:10 PM UTC

5 minutes into using pyro today, the first commentory came : from Kathyforsyth:" Pyro is jost for idiots who cant PvP"

Just to givean exampel what is told me often, just because i use pyro xD

Zycn October 31, 2014 at 4:10 PM UTC

U should nerf pyro: Weaken the armour to leather armour, the Attack isn't very op, it's just fire aspect I