Ping (LOL??) by rinn May 22, 2017 at 9:05 PM UTC
As a lifelong resident of NYC, my connection to North American servers is quite good. I have about 20-30ms on Avicus and 30-40ms on other US servers. However, since Avicus added the /ping command, I've been constantly bullied by MY OWN team and various salty randies for having such godly ping :(In order to test out just how much my ping affected my pvp, I started playing EU and AU servers regularly (where I get 150ms and 200ms respectively). While I noticed a very slight delay in my hit registration, I found no difference in my skill level. In other words, I still found myself beating players I could normally beat using the same amount of effort. This led me to question the actual effect of ping on pvp and how much one can truly blame on connection.
What are your thoughts on this matter?
Okiba May 22, 2017 at 9:05 PM UTC
i do better with 100msCiaan May 22, 2017 at 9:05 PM UTC
I agree with you for the most part and I personally prefer having delay (140ms ish on Avicus) as it gets me some cheeky double hits but to be fair bowing is a lot easier with lower ping. Obviously potting is a lot harder when you're chilling with 200ms instead of 20ms but in terms of Avicus I rate higher ping over lower ping for sure._DISTRACTION_ May 22, 2017 at 9:05 PM UTC
Ping ≠ PvP SkillI always have around 20-25 ping, but I'm still pretty bad at PvP.
Posighdun May 22, 2017 at 9:05 PM UTC
Ah try 300/450 ping and see if your still as good xDThe only actual advantage for someone like me with that kind of ping is the delayed kb, but even then I'd prefer good hit registration over kb any day.
rinn May 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM UTC
Ah try 300/450 ping and see if your still as good xD
The only actual advantage for someone like me with that kind of ping is the delayed kb, but even then I'd prefer good hit registration over kb any day.
Posighdun May 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM UTC
Well yeah obviously but that's rare ping xD
OriginaI May 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM UTC
80 ms is goldencincip May 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM UTC
rinn, you get 19ms :p
I am all ping so yes low ping is fun + auto clicker = ez 3 kills/death
imryaan May 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM UTC
I heard punching your monitor after losing a minecraft battle helpsxd!
I get like 90ms which is pretty decent for where i am
KojaCola May 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM UTC
We should have a NYC Avicus meetupChallengeMe May 22, 2017 at 11:05 PM UTC
I can get down to 5-15 ms and still prefer between 65-100 ms.Goodnighht May 23, 2017 at 2:05 AM UTC
I would definitely prefer 100-150 ms. Everyone I know that has similar to that ping range takes less kb and are extremely hard to combo. xD (Not to mention delayed kb and hits [want to cry every time])c4ooo May 23, 2017 at 2:05 AM UTC
If you want to raise your ping for testing what ping is best, this tool works great: https://jagt.github.io/clumsy/index.htmlSet filtering to "ip.DstAddr ==158.69.120.209 or ip.SrcAddr == 158.69.120.209" (without the quotes), select "lag", by how much you want to delay, and hit start.
The above filter will raise your ping to the avicus server but not to anything else (google, etc)
ChertanProject May 23, 2017 at 7:05 AM UTC
I get like 400 ping but unlike posighdun who probably has nbn or cable, I am a peasant with adsl and my fastest ever download speed was 3mb/second and I get like 100 ping to my closest server because internet issues so I can tell ping definitely affects ur pvp like when I have 400 a good player can easily ping abuse me and out range me but like as long as if u have 200> Ping then it shouldn't matterXuph May 23, 2017 at 7:05 AM UTC
Skill less pingerhypixel bedwars minecrafter
lemme smash 3:q;>)
kon333 May 23, 2017 at 7:05 AM UTC
cincip Didn't it say you had 0ms before, i wouldn't be surprised XD@rinn Are you and fatlesbian room mates in keenan's basement?
gyalchester May 23, 2017 at 7:05 AM UTC
on a good day i get 300 ping... on a bad day i get 3000Lokigh May 23, 2017 at 8:05 AM UTC
People with 250ms (or similar) are always complaining about how laggy they are and how everyone else is a 'pinger' whereas I would actually argue this is probably one of the best ping values to have, due to the amount of hit delay not being just right so you can appear to be hitting for 5 blocksLokigh May 23, 2017 at 8:05 AM UTC
I would definitely prefer 100-150 ms. Everyone I know that has similar to that ping range takes less kb and are extremely hard to combo. xD (Not to mention delayed kb and hits [want to cry every time])
Lokigh May 23, 2017 at 8:05 AM UTC
Well yeah obviously but that's rare ping xD
c4ooo May 23, 2017 at 10:05 AM UTC
Triple post?:/
_DipperPines May 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM UTC
I get like 20-30DaFrozenBlaze May 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM UTC
Nice pingDaGoldBrick May 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM UTC
ping doesn't have an affect on pvp directly, it's mainly latency which isn't exactly the same as pingin melee there's not much difference between EU and NA ping unless u have like 300ms/ur a laggy AU fucker
cellish May 23, 2017 at 1:05 PM UTC
Tbh I don't think it's a big difference between having 30-50 ping on EU servers (us servers for you) and 100-130 on us servers. I mean it's just like some milliseconds. Also, maybe if you're used to 30-40 ping it could look/feel like the hits are delayed a bit cus ur not used to 100+ ping.I wouldn't say it matters to me but on AU servers I get like 300-350 ping.
EU: 30-50 ping
US: 100-150 ping
AU: 150-350 ping
ImRaging May 23, 2017 at 2:05 PM UTC
fucking pinger bitch crying to the community :((((((((((CraftingTheory May 23, 2017 at 2:05 PM UTC
Tbh I don't think it's a big difference between having 30-50 ping on EU servers (us servers for you) and 100-130 on us servers. I mean it's just like some milliseconds. Also, maybe if you're used to 30-40 ping it could look/feel like the hits are delayed a bit cus ur not used to 100+ ping.
I wouldn't say it matters to me but on AU servers I get like 300-350 ping.
EU: 30-50 ping
US: 100-150 ping
AU: 150-350 ping
Ping doesn't matter too much on Minecraft compared to say a FPS (first-person shooter) game.
Low ping is always best, but as
Lokigh said having a 100ish ping isn't great as you don't get neither the better hit registration of low ping nor the delayed kb/hits of 150+ ping.
yummys May 23, 2017 at 2:05 PM UTC
I think ping doesn't really matter, it's the level on skill the player has. For example I used to get bad ping (now it's decent but not great), and I my skill level was the same. Honestly I don't think ping matters.CraftingTheory May 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM UTC
I think ping doesn't really matter, it's the level on skill the player has. For example I used to get bad ping (now it's decent but not great), and I my skill level was the same. Honestly I don't think ping matters.
cincip May 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM UTC
@rinn Are you and fatlesbian room mates in keenan's basement?
yummys May 23, 2017 at 7:05 PM UTC
Ping is definitely not the most important factor in a person's ability to PvP, though in situations between those of equal skill, it can give an advantage to one side; However in most cases players like Rinn would likely still best you or be bested by you irrelevant of ping, but it can give the opportunity for lucky wins or good combo hits.
Bloodoh May 24, 2017 at 1:05 AM UTC
ez pingerlunaceee May 24, 2017 at 2:05 PM UTC
self ddos is all u needDeltaDragon222 May 24, 2017 at 3:05 PM UTC
Ping doesn't matter too much as long as your connection is consistentInconsistencies in ping and packet loss are where the real problems occur
A connection makes things different this difference can both be interpreted as an advantage and disadvantage depending on the person, context and such
If you want to see an example of this watch the video on my channel called pinger in that video I was on a really bad connection then watch me play without it
It makes things so different
ArmamentHaki May 24, 2017 at 4:05 PM UTC
pvp: 98% skill 2% ping. people dont understand how much playroom there is to get better.. Movement does make a huge difference, aim, and clicks but thats the least important of thatkeller183 May 24, 2017 at 6:05 PM UTC
I heard punching your monitor after losing a minecraft battle helps
xd!
I get like 90ms which is pretty decent for where i am
Fond May 26, 2017 at 1:05 AM UTC
Having a low amount of ping fighting someone with 200 ping you'll lose almost everytime. Delayed hits are nearly impossible to cope against. Ive never played a server where ive had above 60 ping, pvping is extremely hard because i lag too much on eu/au.ElementalAssasin May 26, 2017 at 4:05 PM UTC
tbh prefer no delay in the bow over zicuri's ping any dayAtditC May 27, 2017 at 7:05 PM UTC
Ping definitely affects your pvp potential. If you just think about what ping actually is, you know why.Seuthy May 27, 2017 at 9:05 PM UTC
did u make this bc of me LULrinn May 27, 2017 at 9:05 PM UTC
did u make this bc of me LUL
TurkishDelite May 28, 2017 at 10:05 AM UTC
People with 250ms (or similar) are always complaining about how laggy they are and how everyone else is a 'pinger' whereas I would actually argue this is probably one of the best ping values to have, due to the amount of hit delay not being just right so you can appear to be hitting for 5 blocks
TheMasterClock May 29, 2017 at 1:05 AM UTC
We should have a NYC Avicus meetup
TheMasterClock May 29, 2017 at 1:05 AM UTC
also I can consider myself as one of the salty randiesXtraMajestical May 29, 2017 at 8:05 AM UTC
It all depends i get about 100ms and pingers around 30 can easily get them better hits xdClickn June 20, 2017 at 3:06 PM UTC
In all honesty, decreased ping mods don't really do much. I know TCPNoDelay kinda does something andregedit probably does. Things like WTFast and Pingzapper were proven to be placebo, well Wtfast was. It's like saying if you look at a cursed picture, your mind will slowly die, It's not actually happening, you feel like its happening because your mind thinks it's happening, Idk honestly, its quite hard to explain.