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The Problem with CTW atm. by Tazz September 27, 2015 at 2:09 PM UTC

The next tournament is confirmed to be CTW, however the gamemode has two major bugs which need to be fixed. Those two problems are safety's and touches coming up in global chat.

These changes would help the gamemode be more enjoyable and more possible to win. At this current time and in this current meta, it is really difficult to return a wool - in the all star game yesterday I had to hide in a 1x2 hole with at least 5 people hunting me to wait for my team to distract the hunters and PVP them while Danikas made an underbridge for me to return on. However, that team was randomised. It was not a team that knew eachother very well or that were experienced together. In experienced teams, something like that would not be possible. These two things should not be difficult to implement and it would help the meta.

PLEASE implement these.

DaFrozenBlaze September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

It's just like OCN right?

NovaLikesPvP September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

Totally -1, Please no OCN

Legoche September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

I have to admit, the "Purple Wool has been touched" is annoying, but the safeties shouldn't work, as it is better without safeties IMO.

Glitchaye September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

"Wahh I dont want this server to have elements that are from OCN that make the game more in depth" - These Replies

Tazz September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

"Wahh I dont want this server to have elements that are from OCN that make the game more in depth" - These Replies
Exactly this.

pope_panda September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

not being able to place safeties is interesting but i agree with point 2

DaFrozenBlaze September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

I always liked Safeties, but I never noticed No.2

Sem September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

What about only being able to place a maximum amount of safeties? I don't like that you can't place safeties, but I also don't like safeties being spammed everywhere.

Agreed with point 2

ViceTechnicolour September 27, 2015 at 3:09 PM UTC

For the first one, I'm afraid that safeties would become too OP because defense isn't really emphasized on public. Maybe tourney.

Rainstruck September 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM UTC

For the first one, I'm afraid that safeties would become too OP because defense isn't really emphasized on public. Maybe tourney.
I'm all for this. Keep the safeties on public, but not on scrim servers.

faht September 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM UTC

Give this man a cookie

DaFrozenBlaze September 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM UTC

I'm all for this. Keep the safeties on public, but not on scrim servers.
Isn't it the other way around...

emilizzle September 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM UTC

I like the fact we cant get safeties

you cant just yolo rush back while spamming right click, I mostly pilar up and then wait till the skybridge is connected.

AsianPear September 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM UTC

Make safeties possible in the tourney maps YMLs.

Notalgicular September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

wool rooms are soo badly designed. we can't destroy cobwebs and sometimes there is no protection at all

Tazz September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

I'm all for this. Keep the safeties on public, but not on scrim servers.
He meant the other way round LMFAO

Rainstruck September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

He meant the other way round LMFAO
Lol my bad! xD read that completely wrong.

RIP_Avicus September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

I think the first step for CTW is to fix the regions so you can't glitch into your own wool room and make it so trollers can't block where the wool needs to be placed. As for the messages, maybe broadcast it to the opposing team 10 seconds after it's been touched so the capturer can have a good chance of getting away.

Tazz September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

I think the first step for CTW is to fix the regions so you can't glitch into your own wool room and make it so trollers can't block where the wool needs to be placed. As for the messages, maybe broadcast it to the opposing team 10 seconds after it's been touched so the capturer can have a good chance of getting away.
I don't see the point in having it broadcasted at all. You should not know whether you've won or not so easily.

FrozenThorn September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

I think the first step for CTW is to fix the regions so you can't glitch into your own wool room and make it so trollers can't block where the wool needs to be placed. As for the messages, maybe broadcast it to the opposing team 10 seconds after it's been touched so the capturer can have a good chance of getting away.
That seems like a better idea!

Jongh September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

But once someone is the wool room, they do have those op wool room gear to harass the defender and help more people get in. Not only that, if 5 people were preventing you from getting out as you said, that opens up the rest of the map significantly, making it easier for your team to get into the other wool room, advance skybridge, make more pushes, etc.

And if the team is communicating, the defender should be able to tell their team whether someone is in the room or not anyways. Having it show up just makes it a lot more obvious. Shouldn't really matter, but I guess you could remove the part where it shows touches to the opposing team just to promote team communication.

RIP_Avicus September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

I don't see the point in having it broadcasted at all. You should not know whether you've won or not so easily.
Have the delay in public, but yeah, get rid of it for scrims, because people should defend.

Tazz September 27, 2015 at 5:09 PM UTC

But once someone is the wool room, they do have those op wool room gear to harass the defender and help more people get in. Not only that, if 5 people were preventing you from getting out as you said, that opens up the rest of the map significantly, making it easier for your team to get into the other wool room, advance skybridge, make more pushes, etc.

And if the team is communicating, the defender should be able to tell their team whether someone is in the room or not anyways. Having it show up just makes it a lot more obvious. Shouldn't really matter, but I guess you could remove the part where it shows touches to the opposing team just to promote team communication.
I hope you realise you can easily get in the wool room without people knowing. Also, you don't understand the situation I was talking about.

FrozenSolstice September 27, 2015 at 6:09 PM UTC

No! This will be too much like OCN!!1!1!1

How dare we have similarities to another server!!!

Reallg though, +1

kycrafft September 27, 2015 at 6:09 PM UTC

I don't really care about the messages but don't add safeties. I like the current meta of having to escort the wool back to your side.

BmB September 27, 2015 at 7:09 PM UTC

I swear Avicus create theri game modes around stale mating.