Tourney 3
by
Cyclops
November 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM UTC
Although it feels like it could be too early to discuss it, I feel we should give our side as to what we want to see next tournament, and hopefully the officials make it happen.
In my belief, I feel it should be a TDM tournament, this being that I personally see some potential in a few TDM maps here for tourney with some tweaks. I also feel that teams would cause some upsets, and we could see underrated teams go high in brackets, which would be nice. If next tournament would be a TDM, some scoreboxes should be implemented to better gameplay. Tournament should be played Round Robin style, having best of out ??? each matchup.
That's how I look at tourney 3, how about you guys?
Round Robin is a tournament style where each competitor plays against each and every other one. So seeding wont really have an effect until invitationals.
Problem with classic DTM is that it is way too stalemate to be played in a tournament. Now, I'm not talking about the maps, the gamemode in general is way to hard for it to be configured to play well in a tournament, might even be impossible.
Scoreboxes would be needed for this, and I have discussed this with officials since my promotion, however we haven't really started planning for the next tournament yet because of the league.
tdm... we're on avicus bruh, you want 1 hit pvp tourney???
.... tdm is not 1 hit lol, tdm is killing a normal guy normally not with one hit. it's not the avicus tdm you're thinking of where on some maps it's one hit no lol
Also, we should go through every mode as their individual tournament, then Tourney 4 could be this, without DTM tho, or some other mode could replace it. Also, I don't think we are prepared for this yet anyways, as organization is getting better, it isn't the best yet, so don't recommend this as of now.
Before any people who have created TDM maps take offence, I don't imply any. That being said...
The vast majority of the team-deathmatch maps on Avicus have terrible gameplay and having a tournament with the best 5 maps around would be a complete disaster.
It would be neat if it was best of 3, first round is DTM, second is CTW, and the 3rd would be the tiebreaker and final round, which would be TDM (if the score is 1-1)
Before any people who have created TDM maps take offence, I don't imply any. That being said...
The vast majority of the team-deathmatch maps on Avicus have terrible gameplay and having a tournament with the best 5 maps around would be a complete disaster.
Imo it's kind of hard to make a tdm tourney with such broken kb and so many client users. Some people take no kb, are a bird, deal no kb, deal tons and know how to abuse server mechanics and people who are mixes of several of these traits. It's kind of hard when you have people who deal insane knockback who can teach their team how to deal that much knockback. Let's just take me for example (cuz it's easy to use myself as an example). If I were to teach all of PPB how to get that much kb, it would be incredibly easy to just steamroll over any team, there would be no competition.
Imo it's kind of hard to make a tdm tourney with such broken kb and so many client users. Some people take no kb, are a bird, deal no kb, deal tons and know how to abuse server mechanics and people who are mixes of several of these traits. It's kind of hard when you have people who deal insane knockback who can teach their team how to deal that much knockback. Let's just take me for example (cuz it's easy to use myself as an example). If I were to teach all of PPB how to get that much kb, it would be incredibly easy to just steamroll over any team, there would be no competition.
You can't really just create new plugins out of thin air and you can't expect ghost clienters to be dealt with....
So how would these issues be dealt with exactly? If you have a solution or an idea, I'm sure there would be some value in sharing (not trying to be rude or sarcastic).
Imo it's kind of hard to make a tdm tourney with such broken kb and so many client users. Some people take no kb, are a bird, deal no kb, deal tons and know how to abuse server mechanics and people who are mixes of several of these traits. It's kind of hard when you have people who deal insane knockback who can teach their team how to deal that much knockback. Let's just take me for example (cuz it's easy to use myself as an example). If I were to teach all of PPB how to get that much kb, it would be incredibly easy to just steamroll over any team, there would be no competition.
omg it's the real stimulating please teach me how to deal insane amount of knockback so I can steamroll in the tournament which will lead to no competition!!
Imo it's kind of hard to make a tdm tourney with such broken kb and so many client users. Some people take no kb, are a bird, deal no kb, deal tons and know how to abuse server mechanics and people who are mixes of several of these traits. It's kind of hard when you have people who deal insane knockback who can teach their team how to deal that much knockback. Let's just take me for example (cuz it's easy to use myself as an example). If I were to teach all of PPB how to get that much kb, it would be incredibly easy to just steamroll over any team, there would be no competition.
Just because you say there are a lot of clienters doesn't mean you're right. A large amount of our player base go among an average player's skills so I'm pretty sure you're wrong in someway. Also, teaching your team how to get "insane kb" won't let you steamroll every single team that's taking part of a tourney, you're making it sound too easy.
Just because you say there are a lot of clienters doesn't mean you're right. A large amount of our player base go among an average player's skills so I'm pretty sure you're wrong in someway. Also, teaching your team how to get "insane kb" won't let you steamroll every single team that's taking part of a tourney, you're making it sound too easy.
No habla exactamente de BC, Habla en General, Y en mi opinión tiene algo de razón..
Just because you say there are a lot of clienters doesn't mean you're right. A large amount of our player base go among an average player's skills so I'm pretty sure you're wrong in someway. Also, teaching your team how to get "insane kb" won't let you steamroll every single team that's taking part of a tourney, you're making it sound too easy.
There are usually several clienters per team, without knowing the players I can still judge that about 2, which is pretty generously low, players per team hack with 8 registered teams for a tourney. Under this assumption, that's at the very least, 16 client-users per tourney. And in terms of kb, when you get a guaranteed three hit combo and they die from fall damage anyways, it does matter really. When there's that much kb going against you it's nearly impossible to hit the person back unless they're using crazy short aura or triggerbot.
There are usually several clienters per team, without knowing the players I can still judge that about 2, which is pretty generously low, players per team hack with 8 registered teams for a tourney. Under this assumption, that's at the very least, 16 client-users per tourney. And in terms of kb, when you get a guaranteed three hit combo and they die from fall damage anyways, it does matter really. When there's that much kb going against you it's nearly impossible to hit the person back unless they're using crazy short aura or triggerbot.
How can you make such assumption without any solid evidence. You're telling me at least 2 people per team cheat yet you don't know who they are or haven't seen them play.
Regarding the KB, just get used to it. You literally played 2 tourneys with the same kb yet you're complaining about it now which is pointless since I'm quite sure none of the devs we have right now know how to fix if. Apart from that, name at least 2 servers whose kb ain't fucked up. Most of the servers who are still running have broken mechanics.
P.S: Consider I live in South America where the kb is a lot worse.
How can you make such assumption without any solid evidence. You're telling me at least 2 people per team cheat yet you don't know who they are or haven't seen them play.
Regarding the KB, just get used to it. You literally played 2 tourneys with the same kb yet you're complaining about it now which is pointless since I'm quite sure none of the devs we have right now know how to fix if. Apart from that, name at least 2 servers whose kb ain't fucked up. Most of the servers who are still running have broken mechanics.
P.S: Consider I live in South America where the kb is a lot worse.
I don't wanna be rood but walls is pretty unpopular and shit these days. Maybe backs in the old days it was fun but now it isn't really.
I don't wanna be rude* but walls is not gonna get anymore popular if people don't play it. If people tried it as a tournament, they would find the competitiveness in it and strive to win. It may just work. If we actually had a tournament, people would maybe change their minds on the game itself and may give it a go, thus walls may get more popular. Oh, and nothing has changed about walls except for the maps and players getting better.
Also, lets use this tourney as an example. Cronus lost to bad company 0-2, meaning cronus were out of the tournament forever. There should be a deathmatch with the loosing teams so they're not just out of it in a click.
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