Regarding Death Threats/Suicide Encouragement by hcnem March 25, 2016 at 1:03 PM UTC
Hello,Recently, an immense amount of community members have been attempting to bypass our death threat rule by saying "kill yourselfie." This is honestly disappointing behavior that will not be tolerated. Staff members will continue to punish as usual with no exceptions to this rule. A one-week grace period will be in place where staff members should issue a warn before any punishment regarding these matters, but after it passes, immediate punishments will be given. Thanks.
Regards,
Senior Staff
TurkishDelite March 25, 2016 at 1:03 PM UTC
keep yourself safeBmB March 25, 2016 at 1:03 PM UTC
llik flesrouyNovaLikesPvP March 25, 2016 at 1:03 PM UTC
wat happened with my postaliens
DaFrozenBlaze March 25, 2016 at 1:03 PM UTC
I actually haven't seen anyone say that, but nice.hasl March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
This is disgusting. :(Howsie March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Guys for real? You can't make an official post without referencing things for people who havent seen it. Also, isnt this just a reference to Life is Strange?Iron March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Guys for real? You can't make an official post without referencing things for people who havent seen it. Also, isnt this just a reference to Life is Strange?
Spoookeh March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Thanks for clearing this upHowsie March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Howsie please. There is legitimately no reason to complain this time.
I'm not saying I condone people saying it but come on, give those who don't know whats going on some information?
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Porkyyy March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Um where have people been saying this? I haven't seen it being used at all yet..BoldAndBrash March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Where is this happening? Whos doing it? And what are you going to do about it?
I'm not saying I condone people saying it but come on, give those who don't know whats going on some information?
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Iron March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Um where have people been saying this? I haven't seen it being used at all yet..
Howsie March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Everywhere, basically. You don't need to know who's doing it. It's literally stated in the op what we'll do.
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BoldAndBrash March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Thank you for being as vague as this post
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Howsie March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
My bad. from what I've seen in Slack, it's mostly been happening ingame.
And surely its only a few isolated incidences? I doubt theres armadas of people coming on to AVICUS for all places just to say kill yourselfie
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DaFrozenBlaze March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Thank you for being as vague as this post
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You don't have to start anything
ImNotYourTiger March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Rude...
And surely its only a few isolated incidences? I doubt theres armadas of people coming on to AVICUS for all places just to say kill yourselfie
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I've actually never seen someone say that though.
Okiba March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Lol why would they even attempt to bypass the ruleDaFrozenBlaze March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Lol why would they even attempt to bypass the rule
Howsie March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Just don't
You don't have to start anything
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Iron March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
I'm not one to sit there and be told that something is without a justification. I'm not trying to start an argument, you lot rebut what I say with an argument rather than just answering my queries.
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Howsie March 25, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
Bro, "A few users have been caught saying such things, I do not want to breach their confidentiality. However, they said the exact same thing as quoted in this post. They have received a punishment, and henceforth, we are addressing this issue." Also why does this even need justification. We are literally telling people not to death threat others. We are not rebutting you as there isn't a really valid argument.
People hack all the time. Why don't you put up a post regarding that? My criticism revolves around the fact that you don't need to post things that are stated somewhere else. Its annoying.
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Iron March 25, 2016 at 3:03 PM UTC
A few users = isolated incidents
People hack all the time. Why don't you put up a post regarding that? My criticism revolves around the fact that you don't need to post things that are stated somewhere else. Its annoying.
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Howsie March 25, 2016 at 3:03 PM UTC
Alright, however, as a final argument. You cannot get out of hacking, there is no way to talk your way out of it. Alas, with this people were trying to argue their way out. Hence, we are clarifying the issue. :P
Apart from that, anyone else think its a reference to Life is Strange? Great game. Worth a look if you want to cry your eyes out for twenty hours straight.
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BoldAndBrash March 25, 2016 at 3:03 PM UTC
Rude...
And surely its only a few isolated incidences? I doubt theres armadas of people coming on to AVICUS for all places just to say kill yourselfie
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Howsie March 25, 2016 at 3:03 PM UTC
How was I rude?
I assumed you were taking a shot at me not being active in game.
BoldAndBrash March 25, 2016 at 3:03 PM UTC
> it's mostly been happening ingame.
I assumed you were taking a shot at me not being active in game.
Howsie March 25, 2016 at 3:03 PM UTC
No, haha, not what I meant. I actually meant it was happening ingame from the screenshots we had in Slack.
Numberz_ March 25, 2016 at 4:03 PM UTC
All the Leafyishere fanboys are salty.Iron March 25, 2016 at 4:03 PM UTC
All the Leafyishere fanboys are salty.
IcyCode March 25, 2016 at 5:03 PM UTC
I love how staff cause the flame wars hereIron March 25, 2016 at 5:03 PM UTC
I love how staff cause the flame wars here
ClubberNugget March 25, 2016 at 5:03 PM UTC
Lol watBmB March 25, 2016 at 5:03 PM UTC
Flame wars are different from moderated debates. :P
imryaan March 25, 2016 at 5:03 PM UTC
i remember a couple of days ago everyone was saying it in ts even the mods xdsteven5703 March 25, 2016 at 7:03 PM UTC
Hmm i wonder who was saying this... whoever they are they are terrible people.Also, if its official put it on the rules page.
Cynthesis March 25, 2016 at 8:03 PM UTC
Well, I thought it was going to be smooth sailing for a while, but NOPE. And to those people who have said something like this, I have a quote from a previous Avicus thread pertaining to the same issue addressed here:"Did you maybe ever think for a slight second that this person might actually do it? How would you live with yourself afterwards?"
-FrozenSolstice, I believe.
And yes I know the quote is kinda cliche, but I know at least I would feel no emotion but guilt if I ever knew that I was the cause of a suicide.
If it's because you're having a bad day ingame or just a bad day in general, and are just purely annoyed at the game/life/whatever, let your frustration out in ways other than telling people to kill themselves.
Also, please don't start a flame war on this thread...it hasn't happened yet, but I have a bad feeling that one's going to erupt soon due to the nature of it...
Centralking March 25, 2016 at 8:03 PM UTC
I think some staff misinterpret this and make an action immediately. It could be said as a joke among some friends.Cynthesis March 25, 2016 at 8:03 PM UTC
I think some staff misinterpret this and make an action immediately. It could be said as a joke among some friends.
JDKL March 25, 2016 at 8:03 PM UTC
I think some staff misinterpret this and make an action immediately. It could be said as a joke among some friends.
Xuph March 25, 2016 at 8:03 PM UTC
Right, cool. Just don't make it an issue for people who weren't involved. Like everyone on the forums who had no idea about this.
Apart from that, anyone else think its a reference to Life is Strange? Great game. Worth a look if you want to cry your eyes out for twenty hours straight.
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Centralking March 25, 2016 at 8:03 PM UTC
Some people may interpret it differently and take it personally. Better to not say it either way.
Sevoo March 25, 2016 at 9:03 PM UTC
Righto good as
Stimulating March 25, 2016 at 9:03 PM UTC
Right, cool. Just don't make it an issue for people who weren't involved. Like everyone on the forums who had no idea about this.
Apart from that, anyone else think its a reference to Life is Strange? Great game. Worth a look if you want to cry your eyes out for twenty hours straight.
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Petlas March 25, 2016 at 10:03 PM UTC
As someone who once knew a victim of cyber bullying, all I ask is that you respect these boundaries. I know you may think playfully bypassing the rules is harmless and isn't going to affect anyone, but trust me, it takes a huge fucking impact on some people. You don't know what they're going through. A simple trigger is all it takes.In memory & honour of my friend and all those out there who have been victims of it, please, just don't do it. It's not hard. If being a troll over such a matter is something you can't resist then I think you need a bit of help.
SnowSX3 March 25, 2016 at 10:03 PM UTC
Staff need to be careful with this one.As it is a reference to the game Life is Strange.
Staff need to monitor and fully understand the situation before even thinking about issuing out punishments.
I know what I'm saying is common sense stuff but I'm concerned that miscommunication and error will occur.
Staff, just make sure you completely understand the situation before you give out punishments.
Centralking March 25, 2016 at 11:03 PM UTC
Staff need to be careful with this one.
As it is a reference to the game Life is Strange.
Staff need to monitor and fully understand the situation before even thinking about issuing out punishments.
I know what I'm saying is common sense stuff but I'm concerned that miscommunication and error will occur.
Staff, just make sure you completely understand the situation before you give out punishments.
Seuthy March 25, 2016 at 11:03 PM UTC
somehow im not surprised your posting here almost started a flame war again
Colecrc March 25, 2016 at 11:03 PM UTC
how about kill luar shelfSevoo March 25, 2016 at 11:03 PM UTC
somehow I'm not surprised your post seems like you're triggering him
He shouldn't even post on threads like this if he doesn't think first and say to himself "Could this start an argument?".
Although, kind of sounding like a hypocrite here, so you have a point.
MerlinMaster March 25, 2016 at 11:03 PM UTC
This is a minecraft server not a school. If you believe everything you see on the internet (as in suggestions to "kill yourself") you shouldn't be on the internet.steven5703 March 25, 2016 at 11:03 PM UTC
This is a minecraft server not a school. If you believe everything you see on the internet (as in suggestions to "kill yourself") you shouldn't be on the internet.
ur mom is a school
Sads March 26, 2016 at 12:03 AM UTC
yill kourself. :)hcnem March 26, 2016 at 12:03 AM UTC
This is a minecraft server not a school. If you believe everything you see on the internet (as in suggestions to "kill yourself") you shouldn't be on the internet.
Sevoo March 26, 2016 at 12:03 AM UTC
This is a minecraft server not a school. If you believe everything you see on the internet (as in suggestions to "kill yourself") you shouldn't be on the internet.
You're right, but you can't stop it .
Valyxn March 26, 2016 at 1:03 AM UTC
I think a community gets it when someone says something like this, to know that they are joking. No one will actually do it, nor will avicus be held responsible if it happens, which again it won't happen.If you don't like what I say please ignore this post.DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 2:03 AM UTC
Staff will have to know the difference between rage and actually telling them to kill themselves.Newcleus March 26, 2016 at 2:03 AM UTC
Staff will have to know the difference between rage and actually telling them to kill themselves.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 2:03 AM UTC
I'm pretty sure that distinguishing between rage and "actually telling them" is not needed, as they both have malicious intent, whether temporary or permanent.
ImNotYourTiger March 26, 2016 at 3:03 AM UTC
Some are just being rash due to rage and just throw out whatever they want to say even if they don't mean it.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 3:03 AM UTC
Doesn't matter, consequences should be the same. If I told you to kill yourself, or in this case, "kill your selfie" would you care to notice if I said this due to rage or if I wanted to say it because I felt like it? Does it change the outcome either way?
@OP are there warns before the ban?
hcnem March 26, 2016 at 3:03 AM UTC
Tbh I wouldn't care if someone told me to kill myself.
@OP are there warns before the ban?
Glitchaye March 26, 2016 at 3:03 AM UTC
oh no peoples feelies are hurtDaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 3:03 AM UTC
One-week grace period for it right now. o/
dev_revs March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
Tbh I wouldn't care if someone told me to kill myself.
@OP are there warns before the ban?
Jahaj March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
It shouldn't be an immediate ban, there must be some warning?
In my opinion it is common sense that you would not say something like that. Also, it's on the rules page, and that is the warning.
MidnightBeats March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
Why?
In my opinion it is common sense that you would not say something like that. Also, it's on the rules page, and that is the warning.
ooh
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
Why?
In my opinion it is common sense that you would not say something like that. Also, it's on the rules page, and that is the warning.
You think everyone would read this thread?
You can't assume that they've read them.
SnowSX3 March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
You think everyone would read the rules page?
You think everyone would read this thread?
You can't assume that they've read them.
If you don't read the rules and end up breaking them, then that's on you.
Not the staff team.
BoldAndBrash March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
You think everyone would read the rules page?
You think everyone would read this thread?
You can't assume that they've read them.
ImNotYourTiger March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
You think everyone would read the rules page?
You think everyone would read this thread?
You can't assume that they've read them.
Exactly what Snow said on the rules. If you get a handbook on how to build a computer and you don't read it and end up breaking it, it's on you.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
By playing on the Avicus Network, you agree to follow all of the rules.
If you don't read the rules and end up breaking them, then that's on you.
Not the staff team.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 4:03 AM UTC
Considering we have a message that broadcasts every few minutes telling you to read the rules, I would assume it's on you if you mess up.
The only way I know to see rules in game is by doing /rules.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
You're right, people shouldn't really care. But others are affected, and don't know when to turn off their computer. So as it might not affect you, others are hurt. The outcome is the same both ways
Exactly what Snow said on the rules. If you get a handbook on how to build a computer and you don't read it and end up breaking it, it's on you.
What if there was no handbook provided and I am unable to find it?
ImNotYourTiger March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
What I'm saying is, it should be a warn first, then a ban. Yes, some people get really affected while some don't.
What if there was no handbook provided and I am unable to find it?
The handbook is a real life example I was using to the avicus rules. You should be able to find it, since it's broadcasted and told to players. If you still can't find it, staff can direct you.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
Yeah I agree with you on that.
The handbook is a real life example I was using to the avicus rules. You should be able to find it, since it's broadcasted and told to players. If you still can't find it, staff can direct you.
ImNotYourTiger March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
I don't see it broadcasted, or it's just me. All I see is the message to join the forums, the Walls tournament, and the discount for ranks. And exactly what I mean, "told to players" in the form of a warn. Right now, excluding the grace period, it's a straight out ban.
As for not finding the rules, you can always ask staff for help or even a link.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
I'm almost positive it's broadcasted.
As for not finding the rules, you can always ask staff for help or even a link.
Sure you could say it's their fault for not reading the rules, but issuing a warn makes sure they 100% know and can't find an excuse to defend themselves.
And can you take a screenshot of the broadcast? I personally have not seen it.
ImNotYourTiger March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
That takes initiative. Most people like me probably don't have that.
Sure you could say it's their fault for not reading the rules, but issuing a warn makes sure they 100% know and can't find an excuse to defend themselves.
And can you take a screenshot of the broadcast? I personally have not seen it.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
With all due respect, that would be your problem. If you can't take initiative to do that, then you can't blame staff. It's your own fault.
And it's the majority. I'm sure it would it be fun to get banned off a server you liked for something you didn't know was so severe.
Tbh, when I join a new server, I usually don't ask for the rules. I don't think it's just me.
steven5703 March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
Tbh I wouldn't care if someone told me to kill myself.
@OP are there warns before the ban?
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
nope
Jahaj March 26, 2016 at 5:03 AM UTC
What I'm saying is, it should be a warn first, then a ban. Yes, some people get really affected while some don't.
What if there was no handbook provided and I am unable to find it?
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 6:03 AM UTC
Well that's like saying we should warn for hacking before banning.
steven5703 March 26, 2016 at 7:03 AM UTC
nope what
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 7:03 AM UTC
they won't warn you
SnowSX3 March 26, 2016 at 7:03 AM UTC
Hacking is regarded universally on most servers as illegal, it's logically not allowed. This on the other hand, some servers aren't so particular, some servers allow it and some don't, because this is the internet and the online world.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 7:03 AM UTC
Telling someone not to kill themselves ( or saying something similar ) is also plain common sense.
You're on the internet.
Not all servers punish severely for that
SnowSX3 March 26, 2016 at 7:03 AM UTC
I don't think so?
You're on the internet.
Not all servers punish severely for that
wow..
That mentality is the reason why this rule is being strictly enforced.
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 7:03 AM UTC
You don't think that not telling someone to kill themselves, is plain common sense?
wow..
That mentality is the reason why this rule is being strictly enforced.
SnowSX3 March 26, 2016 at 8:03 AM UTC
This is the internet, you should expect verbal abuse and all that kind of stuff. So you would expect it to be somewhat allowed. Of course, you say it on this server, whether you meant it or not, you get punished.
Saying that "this is the internet" doesn't justify someone to tell someone else that they should end their life.
Obviously if you're talking with friends and everyone knows it's a joke with all parties giving consent, then you won't be banned.
But Cyber-bullying is a very serious issue. and telling others to "harden up, this is the internet would else would you expect?" doesn't cut it with a community whose player base ranges from 11-18 year olds.
(Kids who aren't mentally capable of dealing with insults.)
Although it may be a joke to you, you never know what the person on the receiving end is going through.
I honestly don't understand why people are arguing.
Don't tell people to kill themselves if both parties aren't consenting.
It's literally common sense.
Glitchaye March 26, 2016 at 8:03 AM UTC
Telling someone to kill themselves will never be allowed here.
Saying that "this is the internet" doesn't justify someone to tell someone else that they should end their life.
Obviously if you're talking with friends and everyone knows it's a joke with all parties giving consent, then you won't be banned.
But Cyber-bullying is a very serious issue. and telling others to "harden up, this is the internet would else would you expect?" doesn't cut it with a community whose player base ranges from 11-18 year olds.
(Kids who aren't mentally capable of dealing with insults.)
Although it may be a joke to you, you never know what the person on the receiving end is going through.
I honestly don't understand why people are arguing.
Don't tell people to kill themselves if both parties aren't consenting.
It's literally common sense.
BmB March 26, 2016 at 8:03 AM UTC
DaFrozenBlaze March 26, 2016 at 8:03 AM UTC
Telling someone to kill themselves will never be allowed here.
Saying that "this is the internet" doesn't justify someone to tell someone else that they should end their life.
Obviously if you're talking with friends and everyone knows it's a joke with all parties giving consent, then you won't be banned.
But Cyber-bullying is a very serious issue. and telling others to "harden up, this is the internet would else would you expect?" doesn't cut it with a community whose player base ranges from 11-18 year olds.
(Kids who aren't mentally capable of dealing with insults.)
Although it may be a joke to you, you never know what the person on the receiving end is going through.
I honestly don't understand why people are arguing.
Don't tell people to kill themselves if both parties aren't consenting.
It's literally common sense.
Not going to bother to continue this any further.
Just add a simple warning before the ban, nothing hard to do.
rememes March 26, 2016 at 9:03 AM UTC
Gonna post something seriousThis post was a waste of time, practically all of us knew it was wrong already to say that kind of thing. The community knew that even more. Could of just added to to the rules or added it to the punishment guidelines.
Wasted time which could have been on something else, because the amount of argumental posts and flames on this have wasted staff team time.
DonaldMyTrump March 26, 2016 at 9:03 AM UTC
You don't think that not telling someone to kill themselves, is plain common sense?
wow..
That mentality is the reason why this rule is being strictly enforced.
Howsie March 26, 2016 at 9:03 AM UTC
It is ridiculous. But look at it this way. What about all these poor kids (I'm talking just hitting teen years or younger than me anyway - 17) who solely depend on insta, facey and other garbage as their main port of communication. They're reliant on this, which is stupid in and of itself which is why the term was coined.
Okiba March 26, 2016 at 2:03 PM UTC
All the Leafyishere fanboys are salty.