Move to Discord? What do you want? by hasl January 28, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC
Hey all,Meet Slack
Meet Discord
So that's what they look like (discord left), (slack right)
Essentially Discord = Slack + Teamspeak
What do you think?
Unofficial vote link: http://www.strawpoll.me/12214823
^ the third option will not count towards the winning outcome
Peace
profbananaslug January 28, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC
ok so one is slightly less shittier than the other, got itDaFrozenBlaze January 28, 2017 at 9:01 AM UTC
Slack pleaseAnd can we not have a "I could care less" or a " I couldn't care less" option
We all know how that went
We all know how that went
Rombeyy January 28, 2017 at 9:01 AM UTC
Lmao I prefer ts2BJ January 28, 2017 at 10:01 AM UTC
discordMyworld6 January 28, 2017 at 10:01 AM UTC
Slack, and you have the images the wrong way around.Crimson_Aught January 28, 2017 at 10:01 AM UTC
I thought, you've started using slack to get money from advertising this platform :/Register somewhere only for chating with community of stagnating server.... No, thanks
Use common platforms. Discord may be that one. But not for me.
Lasuz January 28, 2017 at 11:01 AM UTC
Discord. I remember the time when I registered to discord, took 1 min on both pc and phone.On slack i used 3 min just for phone, still haven't found the right way to do it on pc.
SamuelJacob9 January 28, 2017 at 11:01 AM UTC
discordkeller183 January 28, 2017 at 12:01 PM UTC
It probably took me half an hour to figure out how to do anything on slack and then I couldn't figure out how to add someone or whatever, it doesn't make sense. I like discord but it tends to break on me and then the sound stops working so I end up using Skype anyway.vladthegreat100 January 28, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC
I'm voting to keep it in the community slack, I like it better and have found the platform more stable.Just a reminder though that the Community Slack is unofficial, so creating a Discord server like
shadowolfyt had done in the past won't affect the Avicus Services at all.I'm just stating that ^ because I'm getting the vibe that you guys believe that the Community Slack is an actual Avicus Platform which it isn't.
Myv January 28, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC
Discord is good but I still think Skype is the best out of all of them despite not having voice channels.dev_revs January 28, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC
I'm voting to keep it in the community slack, I like it better and have found the platform more stable.
Just a reminder though that the Community Slack is unofficial, so creating a Discord server like
I'm just stating that ^ because I'm getting the vibe that you guys believe that the Community Slack is an actual Avicus Platform which it isn't.
anyway, I prefer slack and teamspeak.
vladthegreat100 January 28, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC
then why do you ban people off it and take it so seriously?
anyway, I prefer slack and teamspeak.
It may not be an official platform, but we still want some sort of standards.
ElementalAssasin January 28, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC
if avicus didn't have rules on their discord or ts or whatever it'd probably end up like the ocn discord LOLEdit: i meant the tournament discord
CodedGuy January 28, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC
actually both are good, but discord is free, thats your decision. i prefer dicsordvladthegreat100 January 28, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC
actually both are good, but discord is free, thats your decision. i prefer dicsord
Walt January 28, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC
Slack is free as well
profbananaslug January 28, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC
Slack is free as well
b o t n e t
Lasuz January 28, 2017 at 8:01 PM UTC
so how do they make money?
b o t n e t
They mainly make money from people donating to them, and get special things only them can do.
InputIGNHere January 28, 2017 at 8:01 PM UTC
Discord. Why?Discord does not require users to be added in but has a join link instead. You might be asking me: CAN'T THAT BE SPAMMED INPUT??? Yes, however the Teamspeak method of making sure users register themselves with a in-game player will make sure people do not spam users into the Discord server. Also, Discord also has a anti-spam function which will stop most spam attacks. Bots are also very useful, and can help manage the discord server too. Everything(Mostly) you could do in Teamspeak and Slack can also be done in Discord.
-Input :)
profbananaslug January 28, 2017 at 8:01 PM UTC
You can same the same to slack.
They mainly make money from people donating to them, and get special things only them can do.
tomqss January 28, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC
Slack is not 100% free, you have to pay for more storage.Discord is infinitely better than skype, slack and ts3 all together.
Lasuz January 28, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC
Slack is not 100% free, you have to pay for more storage.
Discord is infinitely better than skype, slack and ts3 all together.
Discord will always be better than ts3, Skype and slack.
JDKL January 28, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC
Discord isn't not free either. You have to donate to be able to send files bigger than 800KB (or MB, I don't remember), and other stuff.
Discord will always be better than ts3, Skype and slack.
Lasuz January 28, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC
Well I'm sure that sending files will not be a problem, hence we will not have to pay.
I never said you had to pay btw.
Legoche January 28, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC
Discord is essentially where the heart of the OCN, badlion and the competitive community is...if you've never tried discord properly for more than a few hours, please don't vote
_DISTRACTION_ January 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC
In my opinion, the staff chat should remain on Slack, while the community chat should be migrated to Discord.TooSweetSki January 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC
IGN we're gonna do it we should either go all in or not at all.I don't want to unnecessarily use multiple applications to keep up with everything..
tomqss January 28, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC
And why do you need to pay for more storage on slack?
I never said you had to pay btw.
TheColdCrafter January 29, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC
discord please its way betterLasuz January 29, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC
because messages in staff slack can be important, and they are all gone after 10,000 messages
vladthegreat100 January 29, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC
so how do they make money?
b o t n e t
Walt January 29, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC
Then have the staff chat on discord, there they dont dissapare
profbananaslug January 29, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC
i don't go to websites with .tv domains, way too shadyvladthegreat100 January 29, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC
i don't go to websites with .tv domains, way too shady
AutoTool January 29, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC
i don't go to websites with .tv domains, way too shady
profbananaslug January 29, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC
oh, i see, they're running pretty much all on that juicy VC money. we should all jump ship to discord then because slack will probably be bankrupt by the end of the year.vladthegreat100 January 29, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC
oh, i see, they're running pretty much all on that juicy VC money. we should all jump ship to discord then because slack will probably be bankrupt by the end of the year.
profbananaslug January 29, 2017 at 3:01 AM UTC
Slack Technologies has been running for 8 years now and the software slack has been up since August of 2015. I don't see why you're jumping to conclusions with uneducated facts.
joelous January 29, 2017 at 3:01 AM UTC
so you looked up when they were founded and such on wikipedia, such great facts that completely back up your argument that they aren't in financial trouble. except, it's difficult to tell what your argument is... are you saying that everything is gonna be cool with slack because they've been around for a while, or because they're new and hip? either way, historically, companies that have been around for decades have very suddenly gone bankrupt, and of course new companies (especially internet ones) go under every day
vladthegreat100 January 29, 2017 at 3:01 AM UTC
so you looked up when they were founded and such on wikipedia, such great facts that completely back up your argument that they aren't in financial trouble. except, it's difficult to tell what your argument is... are you saying that everything is gonna be cool with slack because they've been around for a while, or because they're new and hip? either way, historically, companies that have been around for decades have very suddenly gone bankrupt, and of course new companies (especially internet ones) go under every day
April 1st 2016, Slack Technologies announced that they raised $200 million while the company was at a worth of $3.8 billion valuation. (Valuation - Estimate or Determined market value of a thing ; Definition from the Merriam Webster Dictionary)
Continuing from this, in February of 2016 Slack Technologies announced that they were on the pace to generate a total of $64 million in revenue. (They would finish off with a + $64 million).
Around the time of April 1st, Slack had 2.7 million active users which approximately 800 000 are paid users. (Minimum $8/month/person ; Maximum $15/month/person)
Even if companies go down many times, especially internet ones, that can easily be said of Discord, so please explain to me how Discord could not be one of those companies as well. I also I find it slightly funny how you are attempting to use that against Slack since it can be the same outcome to Discord.
References:
http://www.businessinsider.com/slack-just-raised-another-200-million-round-and-its-now-worth-38-bill...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/valuation
profbananaslug January 29, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC
Ok, want facts.
April 1st 2016, Slack Technologies announced that they raised $200 million while the company was at a worth of $3.8 billion valuation. (Valuation - Estimate or Determined market value of a thing ; Definition from the Merriam Webster Dictionary)
Continuing from this, in February of 2016 Slack Technologies announced that they were on the pace to generate a total of $64 million in revenue. (They would finish off with a + $64 million).
Around the time of April 1st, Slack had 2.7 million active users which approximately 800 000 are paid users. (Minimum $8/month/person ; Maximum $15/month/person)
Even if companies go down many times, especially internet ones, that can easily be said of Discord, so please explain to me how Discord could not be one of those companies as well. I also I find it slightly funny how you are attempting to use that against Slack since it can be the same outcome to Discord.
References:
http://www.businessinsider.com/slack-just-raised-another-200-million-round-and-its-now-worth-38-bill...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/valuation
also reminder that revenue ≠ profit, all we know is that they made "around" 64 mil (another guess), no idea what their operating expenses are like and how much money they took home at the end of the day
and just for the record, i dislike both slack and discord equally. i would prefer to just use irc but tragically that seems to be a sinking ship since it's no longer hip with the kids. the only reason i mentioned jumping ship to discord might be a better option is because they have like ten times as many users as slack so it'll probably have a little more staying power
vladthegreat100 January 29, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC
reminder that these so-called "valuations" are nothing but guesses since slack isn't a publicly traded company
also reminder that revenue ≠ profit, all we know is that they made "around" 64 mil (another guess), no idea what their operating expenses are like and how much money they took home at the end of the day
and just for the record, i dislike both slack and discord equally. i would prefer to just use irc but tragically that seems to be a sinking ship since it's no longer hip with the kids. the only reason i mentioned jumping ship to discord might be a better option is because they have like ten times as many users as slack so it'll probably have a little more staying power
And for the revenue/profit thing I got a definition mistake there, but 64 million is still a lot, and I'm 100% sure and is common sense that no company would have their valuation rising if they were not making profit at all.
profbananaslug January 29, 2017 at 6:01 AM UTC
Reminder that the definition of "valuation" is a Estimate or Determined market value. So their market value at that time was either exactly 3.8 billion or an estimate of 3.8, which the word "estimate" is by definition in the Merriam Webster Dictionary is "to judge tentatively or approximately the value, worth, or significance of", and if you want it more in depth, the word "approximate" is by definition in the Merriam Webster Dictionary again, "nearly correct or exact" which means those so called "guesses" you say for the valuations is a very close or exact number to 3.8 billion.
And for the revenue/profit thing I got a definition mistake there, but 64 million is still a lot, and I'm 100% sure and is common sense that no company would have their valuation rising if they were not making profit at all.
anyways, i suppose i'll have to expand on my point about these "valuations". as i said before, slack is not a publicly traded company, so these "valuations" are pretty much just what all those sneaky VCs are willing to pay for a part of the company, and as a result the so-called "valuation" is not based on the company's current assets or revenue, it is based on how well all the VCs think it's gonna do in the future. of course, everyone knows how far along we are when it comes to predicting the future (remember the election?), not to mention that VCs have been wrong in a big way in the past, and specifically about internet companies (remember the dot com bubble?) if the valuation is rising, it may just mean that there's less of the company for each VC to grab so they gotta fork over more for it.
i'm sure many people will agree that 64 million is a lot, but it's important to remember that it's just revenue, not profit. if we factor in employee compensation, it shrinks pretty fast. the average salary in california for software developers is 100k, and if we assume that to be the average salary at slack (which it probably isn't, considering that not everyone who works there is a software developer, but then again san francisco has an extremely high cost of living so the salaries are likely higher across the board, and we can't forget that there's probably quite a few executives making significantly more) and multiply it by the number of employees (700), you get 70 million in employee compensation alone, not factoring in other costs such as equipment and whatnot.