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Make your voice heard in our staff meeting! by hasl November 28, 2016 at 7:11 AM UTC

Hello everyone,

The moderation staff team is having a staff meeting this Friday and it's a great opportunity for community issues/suggestions to be discussed and sorted.

So fire away with whatever you want to be brought up on Friday.

Topics:
Peace,
Aura

profbananaslug November 28, 2016 at 7:11 AM UTC

definitely need to discuss making avicus great again and getting rid of atlas

SnowSX3 November 28, 2016 at 7:11 AM UTC

What has already been brought up/what's already going to be discussed?

hasl November 28, 2016 at 7:11 AM UTC

What has already been brought up/what's already going to be discussed?
General recap, staff activity as well as some more private matters.

DaFrozenBlaze November 28, 2016 at 7:11 AM UTC

Where are the devs

SnowSX3 November 28, 2016 at 9:11 AM UTC

I suggest legitimately looking for Devs.
Even if you promote it as free casual experience.

We need more Devs, considering the only active one just retired. 

Active and consistent development is more important than any advertising project.

Myworld6 November 28, 2016 at 9:11 AM UTC

I'm already a staff member, but from what I can see:

  1. What on earth is going on with the dev team?
  2. Why are mods so inactive?
  3. What is being done to resolve these questions?
  4. Why are there so many seniors when the average is generally 3-4? We now have 6. Why?

Lasuz November 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM UTC

Please discuss devs and advertising.

gyalchester November 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM UTC

1. more aussie staff
2. maybe a auto hacker ban system - omg pleaseeeeeeeee
3. mobile friendly website
4. more public advertisement 
5. mod needs to be harder to get... ik i said we need more aussie but just to clear it up. we need more active, on at all times staff/staff team. but the amount of mods that there are is quite a lot compared to the people that play

vladthegreat100 November 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM UTC

I'm already a staff member, but from what I can see:

  1. What on earth is going on with the dev team?
  2. Why are mods so inactive?
  3. What is being done to resolve these questions?
  4. Why are there so many seniors when the average is generally 3-4? We now have 6. Why?
Not sure if you know... But the past few months we've had 8 Sr Mods xD
It went down to 4 when leople got demoted/retired and now its going back up. Good other questions.

GrapeSmoothie November 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM UTC

definitely need to discuss making avicus great again and getting rid of atlas
I'm not even part of the moderation team and I can tell you that getting rid of atlas isn't going to happen and isn't even something mods would have a say on .

GrapeSmoothie November 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM UTC

I'm already a staff member, but from what I can see:

  1. What on earth is going on with the dev team?
  2. Why are mods so inactive?
  3. What is being done to resolve these questions?
  4. Why are there so many seniors when the average is generally 3-4? We now have 6. Why?
If I recall correctly cuz I still access it, the max cap of senior mods is 6 but in past months we've gone as high as 9

EDJM9 November 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM UTC

Like the idea, now we can be heard!

Avicus Is Becoming a Democracy???

faht November 28, 2016 at 12:11 PM UTC

- Staff activity overall (especially admins & devs)
- Advertisement, Sessp told the community a few months ago that he was working on getting youtubers, etc. I would like some sort of evidence, because I haven't noticed anything at all.

Diabolicx November 28, 2016 at 1:11 PM UTC

why are there so many seniors?

ALM November 28, 2016 at 1:11 PM UTC

Discuss the Avicus New Years celebration extravaganza!

EncryptedShoesHD November 28, 2016 at 2:11 PM UTC

Talk about fixing avicus and getting more developers.. I tried to become a dev a while ago but I was ignored, so bitte, do something else avicus will die

AlvaroMorata November 28, 2016 at 2:11 PM UTC

cringe

Legoche November 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM UTC

Fix stuff 

then advertise

popularity needs to rise before new devs and staff come here

dont even bother with the tourney either because if it's not gonna be high quality its A waste of time

ogel November 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM UTC

Idk... maybe make the plugin open source so stuff gets done? Atm avicus is what ocn was a few months ago, a sinking ship.

cellish November 28, 2016 at 4:11 PM UTC

1. Where tf is Devs!?
2. More Devs in EU
3. Voting
4. New Features

AtditC November 28, 2016 at 4:11 PM UTC

-Fixing everything that needs to be fixed
-New developers/wake the old ones up
-Advertising

SnowSX3 November 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC

Fix stuff 

then advertise

popularity needs to rise before new devs and staff come here

dont even bother with the tourney either because if it's not gonna be high quality its A waste of time
"popularity needs to rise before new devs and staff come here"

I disagree, no-one would want to come to a broken server. 
I think Development needs to be the main focus first, then advertising second.

dev_revs November 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC

Things in my opinion.

SamuelJacob9 November 28, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC

agree with Legoche

Goodnighht November 28, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC

I'd have to agree with Snow. No one wants to come to a server with no active Devs, very few active staff at all, along with lots of glitches. If I was looking for a server and I found Avicus I wouldn't stay. There is never a Dev on, which from a new person perspective means no development is happening what-so-ever.

Player count has been increasing slowly, so that should not be a top priority. Keep doing what ever we are doing there.

Developing and updates should be faster. There's been many glitches that are brought up in topics all the time and nothing gets done about them, and now with the most active Dev gone that is going to be even slower.

Staff activity... I have no clue why so many staff are inactive, but that's going to be brought up in the staff meeting already. I know I don't see everyone online because of timezones but I'm on  most of the day for myself. This includes the beginning and end of a few different time zones and 99% of the time I'm on alone or with one and sometimes two other people. I know school is a pretty big factor with activity along with just life in general, but from what I see the active staff that I see everyday or almost every day are myself, MyWorld, Junr, Abusive,PieZ, Para, Badger, and Prodigy. For having 32 staff members (including Seniors and Admins) that is sad. (Those are only ones I know are on everyday or pretty close to it. There are probably a few that are on but I just don't see.)

Now onto things I know a lot of people are curious about and things I've thought of:

-Rules.
     *There are a lot of "rules" that aren't in the rules. 
     *There are also a few rules that don't make a lot of sense. For example the gap between names and chat behavior. You can't have a name that isn't appropriate for all ages, but chat is allowed to be vulgar and sometimes it can get sexual. I understand certain things but if there's a rule for something it shouldn't be allowed in other ways. It just doesn't make sense.


(I will add more as I think of them.)

BoldAndBrash November 28, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC

Agree with Snow.

Lasuz November 28, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC

I'd have to agree with Snow. No one wants to come to a server with no active Devs, very few active staff at all, along with lots of glitches. If I was looking for a server and I found Avicus I wouldn't stay. There is never a Dev on, which from a new person perspective means no development is happening what-so-ever.

Player count has been increasing slowly, so that should not be a top priority. Keep doing what ever we are doing there.

Developing and updates should be faster. There's been many glitches that are brought up in topics all the time and nothing gets done about them, and now with the most active Dev gone that is going to be even slower.

Staff activity... I have no clue why so many staff are inactive, but that's going to be brought up in the staff meeting already. I know I don't see everyone online because of timezones but I'm on  most of the day for myself. This includes the beginning and end of a few different time zones and 99% of the time I'm on alone or with one and sometimes two other people. I know school is a pretty big factor with activity along with just life in general, but from what I see the active staff that I see everyday or almost every day are myself, MyWorld, Junr, Abusive,PieZ, Para, Badger, and Prodigy. For having 32 staff members (including Seniors and Admins) that is sad. (Those are only ones I know are on everyday or pretty close to it. There are probably a few that are on but I just don't see.)

Now onto things I know a lot of people are curious about and things I've thought of:

-Rules.
     *There are a lot of "rules" that aren't in the rules. 
     *There are also a few rules that don't make a lot of sense. For example the gap between names and chat behavior. You can't have a name that isn't appropriate for all ages, but chat is allowed to be vulgar and sometimes it can get sexual. I understand certain things but if there's a rule for something it shouldn't be allowed in other ways. It just doesn't make sense.


(I will add more as I think of them.)
Everything what you said ^^

Murphh November 29, 2016 at 12:11 AM UTC

Please add these topics:
Thanks for reading!

_DISTRACTION_ November 29, 2016 at 1:11 AM UTC

Please add these topics:
  • Maps: Put Quintus, Ternio, Halcyon, and Dust Devils back on Destroy1 server
  • Maps: Find Gladiator and put it on Deathmatch server
  • Message: Welcome message for new or kinda new players (logged in less than 10 times). Have an announcement say Hi to them, so more veteran players can say HI too and welcome them. 
  • Walls!
  • Tags: Update the command /list that could list all the players and include the player's team tag if they are on one.   example:  Murphh [Gold] [HOME]
Thanks for reading!
Those maps will not be added to Destroy because they are already in the Mix rotation: https://github.com/Avicus/Rotations/blob/master/servers/Mix

ProfessorUtonium November 29, 2016 at 1:11 AM UTC

Please add these topics:
  • Maps: Put Quintus, Ternio, Halcyon, and Dust Devils back on Destroy1 server
  • Maps: Find Gladiator and put it on Deathmatch server
  • Message: Welcome message for new or kinda new players (logged in less than 10 times). Have an announcement say Hi to them, so more veteran players can say HI too and welcome them. 
  • Walls!
  • Tags: Update the command /list that could list all the players and include the player's team tag if they are on one.   example:  Murphh [Gold] [HOME]
Thanks for reading!
the staff team does not do anything with maps or rotations
those are for the map developers 
and also refer to my good boi distraction

we need devs to make walls

the team tag would spam /list and would be really hard to read imo

All the staff team can do is talk about issues regarding the server and how we can fix it (such as advertisement or discussion of future plans). We can't really touch rotations/mapsnas those are put onto the map developers but you are welcome to post here: https://avicus.net/forums/discussions/5671b2f86 for any suggestions to rotations and I'm sure one of the 5 mapdevs can help you.

SnowSX3 November 29, 2016 at 2:11 AM UTC

Addressing the recently high turnover rate of the Map Development team. 
What methods will be used to attract more people to become Map Devs?
What methods will be used to keep more people on the Map Dev team in the long run?

PieZ November 29, 2016 at 3:11 AM UTC

Addressing the recently high turnover rate of the Map Development team. 
What methods will be used to attract more people to become Map Devs?
What methods will be used to keep more people on the Map Dev team in the long run?
Those suggestions are really for senior moderators and map devs themselves. Thank you for the suggestions though.

Precise_ November 29, 2016 at 4:11 AM UTC

Devs.

Xuph November 29, 2016 at 5:11 AM UTC

Activity of development and map development. bugs and stuff get delayed way too much and dont tell me its because priority or anything they just do. work on that

JeTePardonne November 29, 2016 at 7:11 AM UTC

I'd have to agree with Snow. No one wants to come to a server with no active Devs, very few active staff at all, along with lots of glitches. If I was looking for a server and I found Avicus I wouldn't stay. There is never a Dev on, which from a new person perspective means no development is happening what-so-ever.

Player count has been increasing slowly, so that should not be a top priority. Keep doing what ever we are doing there.

Developing and updates should be faster. There's been many glitches that are brought up in topics all the time and nothing gets done about them, and now with the most active Dev gone that is going to be even slower.

Staff activity... I have no clue why so many staff are inactive, but that's going to be brought up in the staff meeting already. I know I don't see everyone online because of timezones but I'm on  most of the day for myself. This includes the beginning and end of a few different time zones and 99% of the time I'm on alone or with one and sometimes two other people. I know school is a pretty big factor with activity along with just life in general, but from what I see the active staff that I see everyday or almost every day are myself, MyWorld, Junr, Abusive,PieZ, Para, Badger, and Prodigy. For having 32 staff members (including Seniors and Admins) that is sad. (Those are only ones I know are on everyday or pretty close to it. There are probably a few that are on but I just don't see.)

Now onto things I know a lot of people are curious about and things I've thought of:

-Rules.
     *There are a lot of "rules" that aren't in the rules. 
     *There are also a few rules that don't make a lot of sense. For example the gap between names and chat behavior. You can't have a name that isn't appropriate for all ages, but chat is allowed to be vulgar and sometimes it can get sexual. I understand certain things but if there's a rule for something it shouldn't be allowed in other ways. It just doesn't make sense.


(I will add more as I think of them.)
Agreed :]

Pelpelajax November 29, 2016 at 7:11 AM UTC

I'd have to agree with Snow. No one wants to come to a server with no active Devs, very few active staff at all, along with lots of glitches. If I was looking for a server and I found Avicus I wouldn't stay. There is never a Dev on, which from a new person perspective means no development is happening what-so-ever.

Player count has been increasing slowly, so that should not be a top priority. Keep doing what ever we are doing there.

Developing and updates should be faster. There's been many glitches that are brought up in topics all the time and nothing gets done about them, and now with the most active Dev gone that is going to be even slower.

Staff activity... I have no clue why so many staff are inactive, but that's going to be brought up in the staff meeting already. I know I don't see everyone online because of timezones but I'm on  most of the day for myself. This includes the beginning and end of a few different time zones and 99% of the time I'm on alone or with one and sometimes two other people. I know school is a pretty big factor with activity along with just life in general, but from what I see the active staff that I see everyday or almost every day are myself, MyWorld, Junr, Abusive,PieZ, Para, Badger, and Prodigy. For having 32 staff members (including Seniors and Admins) that is sad. (Those are only ones I know are on everyday or pretty close to it. There are probably a few that are on but I just don't see.)

Now onto things I know a lot of people are curious about and things I've thought of:

-Rules.
     *There are a lot of "rules" that aren't in the rules. 
     *There are also a few rules that don't make a lot of sense. For example the gap between names and chat behavior. You can't have a name that isn't appropriate for all ages, but chat is allowed to be vulgar and sometimes it can get sexual. I understand certain things but if there's a rule for something it shouldn't be allowed in other ways. It just doesn't make sense.


(I will add more as I think of them.)
Just regarding staff activity, Senior Moderators and Admins have other responsibilities than moderating the server. Sure it would be nice to see them on, but at the end of the day they are there for server management, not moderating. That's why you are on the staff team.

_Nathy November 29, 2016 at 8:11 AM UTC

Get the plugins in tiptop shape and release a wave of good new maps, not the shit that just came out, then find a youtuber with like 5-10k subs

When tournaments are in planning for several months, Devs need to recognize that hey "We might need to code some tournament plugins" especially when officials spend time getting shit organised and waking up at ungodly hours with 4 Final year assessments due that week to attend fucking meetings. It should not get to the stage where THE DAY WE ARE FORCED TO POSTPONE, developers show up in slack and say "Hey what plugins do you need done" I won't mention Elly's name here, but that made me so triggered.


STAFF ACTIVITY:
It should not get to the stage where if you want to find a mod to rescue the server from half a dozen flyhackers, 3 kids building penises, 2 spleefers/griefers and 2 kids spamming "EZ KIDS GET REKT", fuck the server, fuck the forums, fuck teamspeak, fuck slack, check the smp instead, thats where you'll have more luck. Oh and get another Aussie staff member

EZ

Myworld6 November 29, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC

Get the plugins in tiptop shape and release a wave of good new maps, not the shit that just came out, then find a youtuber with like 5-10k subs

When tournaments are in planning for several months, Devs need to recognize that hey "We might need to code some tournament plugins" especially when officials spend time getting shit organised and waking up at ungodly hours with 4 Final year assessments due that week to attend fucking meetings. It should not get to the stage where THE DAY WE ARE FORCED TO POSTPONE, developers show up in slack and say "Hey what plugins do you need done" I won't mention Elly's name here, but that made me so triggered.


STAFF ACTIVITY:
It should not get to the stage where if you want to find a mod to rescue the server from half a dozen flyhackers, 3 kids building penises, 2 spleefers/griefers and 2 kids spamming "EZ KIDS GET REKT", fuck the server, fuck the forums, fuck teamspeak, fuck slack, check the smp instead, thats where you'll have more luck. Oh and get another Aussie staff member

EZ
Well, quite a few of the staff members on there are on LOAs. It's not an excuse - there should always be a mod on at busy times - but we're working on it.

XtraMajestical November 29, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC

check slack suggestions :
To bring activity to the forums there should be a small bar or icon, like on ocn where it appears when a  media is streaming. It doesn't have to be like ocns one, it could just be a small view in the corner of their screen that you can click to enlarge or shrink! This would bring in views which can help promote Avicus on twitch as the stream will be closer to the top of the Twitch minecraft page, meaning its easier for people to see it and click it! Then people can see avicus and it can promote it if steamers stream regularly. Please put green or red


Goodnighht November 30, 2016 at 3:11 AM UTC

check slack suggestions :
To bring activity to the forums there should be a small bar or icon, like on ocn where it appears when a  media is streaming. It doesn't have to be like ocns one, it could just be a small view in the corner of their screen that you can click to enlarge or shrink! This would bring in views which can help promote Avicus on twitch as the stream will be closer to the top of the Twitch minecraft page, meaning its easier for people to see it and click it! Then people can see avicus and it can promote it if steamers stream regularly. Please put green or red

The problem with Slack Suggestions is that people start talking about it and it disappears and then gets lost in chat. We need a different system for suggestions.

vladthegreat100 November 30, 2016 at 3:11 AM UTC

The problem with Slack Suggestions is that people start talking about it and it disappears and then gets lost in chat. We need a different system for suggestions.
The activity recently boosted to 4K messages a week. That's approximately 2 and a half weeks to be able to gather info before it resets.
So as long as staff members look at the slack, write down the suggestion a day or so after the suggestions were made, then there shouldn't be any problem.
It's not like the staff slack that resets every other day.

AtditC November 30, 2016 at 6:11 AM UTC

Well, quite a few of the staff members on there are on LOAs. It's not an excuse - there should always be a mod on at busy times - but we're working on it.
That's why we need a staff activity check, as vladthegreat suggested. The other inactive mods can be warned then if they're too inactive.

Lasuz November 30, 2016 at 10:11 AM UTC

^^

Eklip_Z November 30, 2016 at 10:11 AM UTC

If you're going to monitor staff activity please don't leave it up to staff with a completely different timezone. It will appear that they are inactive, they're just not on when you are.

Lasuz November 30, 2016 at 10:11 AM UTC

If you're going to monitor staff activity please don't leave it up to staff with a completely different timezone. It will appear that they are inactive, they're just not on when you are.
If they decide to do this they will probably just look on how many hours in total they have been on for a week. Then they can easily find out if they are on often, how much they are on, and all that kind of stuff

vladthegreat100 November 30, 2016 at 12:11 PM UTC

If you're going to monitor staff activity please don't leave it up to staff with a completely different timezone. It will appear that they are inactive, they're just not on when you are.
That's not how it would work.
Talking to Pete about my suggestion of activity checks, is on minimum of certain command infractions given out (ex: a certain amount of warns, kicks, bans per month), if they go on ts or not, active or not in slack and many other stuff to influence the activity check decision.

hasl November 30, 2016 at 4:11 PM UTC

That's not how it would work.
Talking to Pete about my suggestion of activity checks, is on minimum of certain command infractions given out (ex: a certain amount of warns, kicks, bans per month), if they go on ts or not, active or not in slack and many other stuff to influence the activity check decision.

Basing activity on infraction counts is very inaccurate, unfair and bias.


Myworld6 November 30, 2016 at 5:11 PM UTC

^

JDKL November 30, 2016 at 6:11 PM UTC

Everyone says 'Advertising' and expects something amazing to occur, despite the fact that they don't have or aren't suggesting any ideas to help.

Goodnighht November 30, 2016 at 7:11 PM UTC

That's not how it would work.
Talking to Pete about my suggestion of activity checks, is on minimum of certain command infractions given out (ex: a certain amount of warns, kicks, bans per month), if they go on ts or not, active or not in slack and many other stuff to influence the activity check decision.
Like Aura said, judging staff activity by infractions doesn't work. I've had many days where I'm on got 5 hours and I have 1-3 infractions, mostly kicks for spam or something like that. Unless there's a ban evader online infractions are pretty low.

ImRaging November 30, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC

i apologise if this is just a meeting for mods but in a mapdev meeting idk...

why are all of the maps in the rots ones that are constantly complained about when there are maps such as rend that everyone likes and that there isnt anything wrong with

ProfessorUtonium November 30, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC

i apologise if this is just a meeting for mods but in a mapdev meeting idk...

why are all of the maps in the rots ones that are constantly complained about when there are maps such as rend that everyone likes and that there isnt anything wrong with
https://avicus.net/forums/discussions/5671b2f86

imryaan November 30, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC

-Fixing minor glitches in maps 
-Voting (Better rewards though)
-Double credit weekends . Adding on to that, maybe having a credit multiplier throughout Christmas until New Years?
-After someone getting a killstreak in-game (5,10 etc) it could say : "roadmanryan is on a 10 killstreak!"
- /rules command which has a link to the avicus ruleset
-Voting on a map at the end which could give feedback for the MapDevs
-Staff activity
-Maybe saying gg at the end of a game will give you 20 credits (for all ranks)

ImRaging November 30, 2016 at 10:11 PM UTC

ty

ImRaging November 30, 2016 at 10:11 PM UTC

The problem with Slack Suggestions is that people start talking about it and it disappears and then gets lost in chat. We need a different system for suggestions.
what happened to the suggestion box thing

Goodnighht November 30, 2016 at 11:11 PM UTC

what happened to the suggestion box thing
The what?

Seuthy November 30, 2016 at 11:11 PM UTC

unban seuthy

AtditC December 1, 2016 at 7:12 AM UTC

-Fixing minor glitches in maps 
-Voting (Better rewards though)
-Double credit weekends . Adding on to that, maybe having a credit multiplier throughout Christmas until New Years?
-After someone getting a killstreak in-game (5,10 etc) it could say : "roadmanryan is on a 10 killstreak!"
- /rules command which has a link to the avicus ruleset
-Voting on a map at the end which could give feedback for the MapDevs
-Staff activity
-Maybe saying gg at the end of a game will give you 20 credits (for all ranks)
+1 for all suggestions except the ks message. It should only be visible for TDM matches' because in DTM I think, only players with iron or diamond armor are able to achieve this with camping or kill farming?

hasl December 3, 2016 at 12:12 AM UTC

What was said?
Thanks for your suggestions!

Seuthy December 3, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC

what about unbanning seuthy

benaye December 3, 2016 at 1:12 PM UTC

what about unbanning seuthy
Don't worry, It'll happen someday.