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We can never talk to staff smh by TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

This staff team needs to be more interactive because honestly whenever I try to talk to one of ya'll, I either get ignored or you guys honestly dont care. And I know this isn’t just for me, other players also experience this. Like yesterday, I tried to ask one of you guys  a question and clearly they were online and talking in public channels but I never got a response. Don’t  think of this as a post for trashing the staff team but its the truth for most mods. Like none of yall even look happy to be doing ur job besides  KojaCola  twopump u should do something about it bye.

TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

btw its not seniors juust all mods because the seniors are actually really decent ngl

twopump October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

Im pretty happy as staff if im going to be honest, and i can agree my interactions with the community could be a 'little bit' better but it get hard to balance good old avicus with real life. This isnt in any way of an excuse as to why me personally have not had the best interaction but this is usually what happens general in the staff team. Real life takes over minecraft because at the end of the day, its a game. (Im writing this half asleep so i can guarantee i sound stupid but yeah its here)

TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

Im pretty happy as staff if im going to be honest, and i can agree my interactions with the community could be a 'little bit' better but it get hard to balance good old avicus with real life. This isnt in any way of an excuse as to why me personally have not had the best interaction but this is usually what happens general in the staff team. Real life takes over minecraft because at the end of the day, its a game. (Im writing this half asleep so i can guarantee i sound stupid but yeah its here)
Its fine ur excused ill put u on the post

go get some sleep

twopump October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

Oh, alright thanks

TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

Oh, alright thanks
Np young thug

profbananaslug October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC


TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

What ur handwriting sucks

profbananaslug October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

What ur handwriting sucks
i didn't draw those comics, my body double did

TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

i didn't draw those comics, my body double did
ok well tell him to buy some handwriting practice books on amazon

poofywoo October 14, 2017 at 5:10 AM UTC

You can talk to me :p


but I've been a mod for a week sooo

Diabolicx October 14, 2017 at 5:10 AM UTC

I'm a little less active than normal because of school, but I believe my community interaction is fine, people know me and talk to me and I like moderating.

Goodnighht October 14, 2017 at 7:10 AM UTC

I'm not going to be rude or point anyone out, but I'll give a few answers you and other people might be ignored when you ping a staff member or all moderators. 

First one. It's pointless. I've been pinged about things before that I literally can't answer even if I wanted to. I just simply don't know the answer. I've also been asked things that I just can't answer, even if I know the answer, it's leaking if I told you. 

Second. It's a random ping that's bringing me into a conversation while I'm at school, not at home, or in the middle of something. If I'm already doing something I'm not going to jump into a conversation on Discord that doesn't involve what I'm doing or something I need to be updated on in the first place. 

Third. It's something that happened 4 hours ago and it's like 500 messages up in Discord. At that point, the person who sent the message probably forgot they even pinged me and would be very confused if I responded. 

Fourth. It's something completely stupid. I can't even tell you how many times I've been pinged or messaged on Discord (just since I've gotten Senior) "hey can you unban me" or "help I got banned". Like, that's your problem dude... Appeal it then we'll talk. Until then, I have no reason to respond to you or start a conversation that isn't going to go anywhere at all. 

Fifth. (kind of like the fourth) "Hey, @moderator @senior moderator @admin @developer @junior moderator look at my appeal *links appeal*" Those are probably the most annoying. They don't happen very often but like fam. Why.  That actually makes me want to just deny the appeal (or whatever they need) without even looking like that's just annoying.  lol

Sixth. (And probably most relevant to your point.) Sometimes, we aren't online. I know, shocker. Obviously, we aren't always at school or doing something, but most of the time, if we don't respond quickly it's because we can't, and by the time we do it's 6 hours later and no longer relevant or taken care of by someone else. The people that you see responding are the ones that are online the same time as you are (usually in the same timezone). I rarely see Rilo online, but he also lives across the world. He also isn't going to have as much community interaction as a moderator in the EST timezone, simply because of the time that he's around, there are way fewer people online. And the few people that are online, probably aren't in the Discord or involved in the community for the same reason.

SnowSX3 October 14, 2017 at 10:10 AM UTC

I'm not going to be rude or point anyone out, but I'll give a few answers you and other people might be ignored when you ping a staff member or all moderators. 

First one. It's pointless. I've been pinged about things before that I literally can't answer even if I wanted to. I just simply don't know the answer. I've also been asked things that I just can't answer, even if I know the answer, it's leaking if I told you. 

Second. It's a random ping that's bringing me into a conversation while I'm at school, not at home, or in the middle of something. If I'm already doing something I'm not going to jump into a conversation on Discord that doesn't involve what I'm doing or something I need to be updated on in the first place. 

Third. It's something that happened 4 hours ago and it's like 500 messages up in Discord. At that point, the person who sent the message probably forgot they even pinged me and would be very confused if I responded. 

Fourth. It's something completely stupid. I can't even tell you how many times I've been pinged or messaged on Discord (just since I've gotten Senior) "hey can you unban me" or "help I got banned". Like, that's your problem dude... Appeal it then we'll talk. Until then, I have no reason to respond to you or start a conversation that isn't going to go anywhere at all. 

Fifth. (kind of like the fourth) "Hey, @moderator @senior moderator @admin @developer @junior moderator look at my appeal *links appeal*" Those are probably the most annoying. They don't happen very often but like fam. Why.  That actually makes me want to just deny the appeal (or whatever they need) without even looking like that's just annoying.  lol

Sixth. (And probably most relevant to your point.) Sometimes, we aren't online. I know, shocker. Obviously, we aren't always at school or doing something, but most of the time, if we don't respond quickly it's because we can't, and by the time we do it's 6 hours later and no longer relevant or taken care of by someone else. The people that you see responding are the ones that are online the same time as you are (usually in the same timezone). I rarely see Rilo online, but he also lives across the world. He also isn't going to have as much community interaction as a moderator in the EST timezone, simply because of the time that he's around, there are way fewer people online. And the few people that are online, probably aren't in the Discord or involved in the community for the same reason.
First
If you don't know the answer to a question, either find it out or refer that person to someone who DOES know the answer.

But you should always be learning.
If you don't know the answer to something, find it out and learn from it.
It's how you become a better Senior.

Second
Yea, if you're at school, ignore all notifications from Minecraft.

And if you're doing other shit, you can ignore things too.. this is a volunteer job, if you get paid, then your life can be put on hold.
But you're not getting paid, so don't prioritise this.

Third
Not much you can do about this.

Fourth
Dont just ignore that stuff though. You're a Senior Moderator, lead by example.
If someone says "unban me sr mod" link the appeal subforum and tell him to appeal.

Remain professional.

Fifth
See above. Just remain professional about it and deal with it accordingly.

Sixth
Agreed. Time zones are a thing. 
It's pretty ignorant to blame all staff for being inactive if you only talk to a few of them via your Timezone.



joelous October 14, 2017 at 1:10 PM UTC

Yeah... as Avicus has developed the staff have been moving away from the community. Back in the day every single staff member had the expectations of interacting with the community and it was heavily encouraged to know 1-2 more players every week. We needed more people like Dustin who was probably the nicest person I have come across.

Crazy_ October 14, 2017 at 4:10 PM UTC

First
If you don't know the answer to a question, either find it out or refer that person to someone who DOES know the answer.

But you should always be learning.
If you don't know the answer to something, find it out and learn from it.
It's how you become a better Senior.

Second
Yea, if you're at school, ignore all notifications from Minecraft.

And if you're doing other shit, you can ignore things too.. this is a volunteer job, if you get paid, then your life can be put on hold.
But you're not getting paid, so don't prioritise this.

Third
Not much you can do about this.

Fourth
Dont just ignore that stuff though. You're a Senior Moderator, lead by example.
If someone says "unban me sr mod" link the appeal subforum and tell him to appeal.

Remain professional.

Fifth
See above. Just remain professional about it and deal with it accordingly.

Sixth
Agreed. Time zones are a thing. 
It's pretty ignorant to blame all staff for being inactive if you only talk to a few of them via your Timezone.


Rt

TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 8:10 PM UTC

I'm not going to be rude or point anyone out, but I'll give a few answers you and other people might be ignored when you ping a staff member or all moderators. 

First one. It's pointless. I've been pinged about things before that I literally can't answer even if I wanted to. I just simply don't know the answer. I've also been asked things that I just can't answer, even if I know the answer, it's leaking if I told you. 

Second. It's a random ping that's bringing me into a conversation while I'm at school, not at home, or in the middle of something. If I'm already doing something I'm not going to jump into a conversation on Discord that doesn't involve what I'm doing or something I need to be updated on in the first place. 

Third. It's something that happened 4 hours ago and it's like 500 messages up in Discord. At that point, the person who sent the message probably forgot they even pinged me and would be very confused if I responded. 

Fourth. It's something completely stupid. I can't even tell you how many times I've been pinged or messaged on Discord (just since I've gotten Senior) "hey can you unban me" or "help I got banned". Like, that's your problem dude... Appeal it then we'll talk. Until then, I have no reason to respond to you or start a conversation that isn't going to go anywhere at all. 

Fifth. (kind of like the fourth) "Hey, @moderator @senior moderator @admin @developer @junior moderator look at my appeal *links appeal*" Those are probably the most annoying. They don't happen very often but like fam. Why.  That actually makes me want to just deny the appeal (or whatever they need) without even looking like that's just annoying.  lol

Sixth. (And probably most relevant to your point.) Sometimes, we aren't online. I know, shocker. Obviously, we aren't always at school or doing something, but most of the time, if we don't respond quickly it's because we can't, and by the time we do it's 6 hours later and no longer relevant or taken care of by someone else. The people that you see responding are the ones that are online the same time as you are (usually in the same timezone). I rarely see Rilo online, but he also lives across the world. He also isn't going to have as much community interaction as a moderator in the EST timezone, simply because of the time that he's around, there are way fewer people online. And the few people that are online, probably aren't in the Discord or involved in the community for the same reason.
ya like snow said even when I say things that are not pointless, I don’t get a response like bruh just respond your staff for a reason and it’s not only to just punish people and get your paycheck

TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 8:10 PM UTC

Yeah... as Avicus has developed the staff have been moving away from the community. Back in the day every single staff member had the expectations of interacting with the community and it was heavily encouraged to know 1-2 more players every week. We needed more people like Dustin who was probably the nicest person I have come across.
Yes those were the good days when u were admin now the admins don’t do anything

TheMasterClock October 14, 2017 at 8:10 PM UTC

Oh wow my post got so famous keep the replies coming I want to read more.

Bleeple October 14, 2017 at 8:10 PM UTC

I'm not going to be rude or point anyone out, but I'll give a few answers you and other people might be ignored when you ping a staff member or all moderators. 

First one. It's pointless. I've been pinged about things before that I literally can't answer even if I wanted to. I just simply don't know the answer. I've also been asked things that I just can't answer, even if I know the answer, it's leaking if I told you. 

Second. It's a random ping that's bringing me into a conversation while I'm at school, not at home, or in the middle of something. If I'm already doing something I'm not going to jump into a conversation on Discord that doesn't involve what I'm doing or something I need to be updated on in the first place. 

Third. It's something that happened 4 hours ago and it's like 500 messages up in Discord. At that point, the person who sent the message probably forgot they even pinged me and would be very confused if I responded. 

Fourth. It's something completely stupid. I can't even tell you how many times I've been pinged or messaged on Discord (just since I've gotten Senior) "hey can you unban me" or "help I got banned". Like, that's your problem dude... Appeal it then we'll talk. Until then, I have no reason to respond to you or start a conversation that isn't going to go anywhere at all. 

Fifth. (kind of like the fourth) "Hey, @moderator @senior moderator @admin @developer @junior moderator look at my appeal *links appeal*" Those are probably the most annoying. They don't happen very often but like fam. Why.  That actually makes me want to just deny the appeal (or whatever they need) without even looking like that's just annoying.  lol

Sixth. (And probably most relevant to your point.) Sometimes, we aren't online. I know, shocker. Obviously, we aren't always at school or doing something, but most of the time, if we don't respond quickly it's because we can't, and by the time we do it's 6 hours later and no longer relevant or taken care of by someone else. The people that you see responding are the ones that are online the same time as you are (usually in the same timezone). I rarely see Rilo online, but he also lives across the world. He also isn't going to have as much community interaction as a moderator in the EST timezone, simply because of the time that he's around, there are way fewer people online. And the few people that are online, probably aren't in the Discord or involved in the community for the same reason.
avicus staff

profbananaslug October 14, 2017 at 11:10 PM UTC

it's good that at least some of the avicus staff care enough to come out of the woodwork and defend themselves in this thread

PokerFace October 15, 2017 at 7:10 AM UTC

Maybe it's because of the stuff you talk about? 

Popeye's chicken gets annoying to talk about all the time.

TheMasterClock October 15, 2017 at 4:10 PM UTC

Maybe it's because of the stuff you talk about? 

Popeye's chicken gets annoying to talk about all the time.
Read my reply to Micah because clearly you don’t understand this thread.

And no, I don’t talk about Popeyes all the time, don’t use that as a way to defend the staff team.

Also, why are you pointing this directly at me. I’m talking about the staff’s interaction with the community , not their interaction with me.

TheMasterClock October 15, 2017 at 4:10 PM UTC

it's good that at least some of the avicus staff care enough to come out of the woodwork and defend themselves in this thread
Ye I was impressed until I saw Poker’s post.

AggroBox October 15, 2017 at 9:10 PM UTC

You can talk to me :p


but I've been a mod for a week sooo
lol

thespina October 16, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

Maybe it's because of the stuff you talk about? 

Popeye's chicken gets annoying to talk about all the time.

I can never talk to staff smh



Also, why are you pointing this directly at me. I’m talking about the staff’s interaction with the community , not their interaction with me.





ok....xd

TheMasterClock October 16, 2017 at 9:10 PM UTC

I can never talk to staff smh



Also, why are you pointing this directly at me. I’m talking about the staff’s interaction with the community , not their interaction with me.





ok....xd
ok ill change the title if u want me to

PieZ October 16, 2017 at 10:10 PM UTC

Look who's back? 
If you want to continue this here or message me any problems you currently feel I  would happily turn it into a learning situation for some of the moderators.

TheMasterClock October 16, 2017 at 11:10 PM UTC

I can never talk to staff smh



Also, why are you pointing this directly at me. I’m talking about the staff’s interaction with the community , not their interaction with me.





ok....xd
I changed it to "we". You happy now? lol

TheMasterClock October 16, 2017 at 11:10 PM UTC

Look who's back? 
If you want to continue this here or message me any problems you currently feel I  would happily turn it into a learning situation for some of the moderators.
No you're a good mod so its fine. Also, glad to see you back :)

JeTePardonne October 17, 2017 at 1:10 AM UTC

Not here to make an excuse, but I can say community interaction has always been a weak spot for me. Even before I was promoted to moderator I only talked a few individuals. Of course moving forward I want to keep improving on this, I just gotta keep working at it. There's always room for improvement for each individual staff member, even in the areas they excel in. Hopefully this is something all of us can take note of and try to improve on, even if some already have great community interaction. :))

TheMasterClock October 17, 2017 at 1:10 AM UTC

Not here to make an excuse, but I can say community interaction has always been a weak spot for me. Even before I was promoted to moderator I only talked a few individuals. Of course moving forward I want to keep improving on this, I just gotta keep working at it. There's always room for improvement for each individual staff member, even in the areas they excel in. Hopefully this is something all of us can take note of and try to improve on, even if some already have great community interaction. :))
ok thx

TheMasterClock October 17, 2017 at 1:10 AM UTC

I'm a little less active than normal because of school, but I believe my community interaction is fine, people know me and talk to me and I like moderating.
yea I can understand that. all good.

AtditC October 17, 2017 at 1:10 AM UTC

I can only say that the higher staff members get promoted, the less interactive with the community they become.

As a Jr Mod you're probably active all the time, to get through the trial. As a Moderator, you don't have to be on as much as a Jr anymore, because you already achieved your goal. As Senior Mod you basically don't have to get on anymore, just doing stuff inside the staff team seems enough. As Admin, you pretty much left the ingame community and maybe announce some things or updates, but that's it.

The Seniors should make it a rule in the staff team that each staff role needs to be interactive and also active ingame.

TheMasterClock October 17, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

I can only say that the higher staff members get promoted, the less interactive with the community they become.

As a Jr Mod you're probably active all the time, to get through the trial. As a Moderator, you don't have to be on as much as a Jr anymore, because you already achieved your goal. As Senior Mod you basically don't have to get on anymore, just doing stuff inside the staff team seems enough. As Admin, you pretty much left the ingame community and maybe announce some things or updates, but that's it.

The Seniors should make it a rule in the staff team that each staff role needs to be interactive and also active ingame.
100% agree with you, the cycle for pretty much all staff. Hope they can do something about this to further improve the quality of the current staff members because the most effort given in the staff team is the recently promoted Moderators and the current Junior Moderators.

trevin October 17, 2017 at 2:10 AM UTC

You can talk to me ;)

TheMasterClock October 17, 2017 at 4:10 AM UTC

You can talk to me ;)
hi i have a chemistry test tomorrow u should help me out

trevin October 17, 2017 at 4:10 AM UTC

hi i have a chemistry test tomorrow u should help me out
i suck at chem sry ily

_DISTRACTION_ October 17, 2017 at 4:10 AM UTC

100% agree with you, the cycle for pretty much all staff. Hope they can do something about this to further improve the quality of the current staff members because the most effort given in the staff team is the recently promoted Moderators and the current Junior Moderators.
To be honest, there are valid reasons for certain staff members being more distant. They don't excuse them from not talking to the community at all, but in general there's nothing really wrong with some moderators being slightly more communicative than others.

thespina October 17, 2017 at 5:10 AM UTC

I changed it to "we". You happy now? lol
Wasn't unhappy lol....you just didn't make much sense lol

ALM October 18, 2017 at 1:10 AM UTC

You can talk to me ;)
I'm better than you.

I talk to people all the time on Discord!

XGalibur October 18, 2017 at 7:10 AM UTC

hey, lion here.
you can always talk to me clock, i am good helpful mod yeis?

TheMasterClock October 19, 2017 at 10:10 PM UTC

To be honest, there are valid reasons for certain staff members being more distant. They don't excuse them from not talking to the community at all, but in general there's nothing really wrong with some moderators being slightly more communicative than others.
I don't understand, what do u mean

TheMasterClock October 19, 2017 at 10:10 PM UTC

Wasn't unhappy lol....you just didn't make much sense lol
Ye I know. lol

TheMasterClock October 19, 2017 at 10:10 PM UTC

hey, lion here.
you can always talk to me clock, i am good helpful mod yeis?
Yes I guess.

SnowSX3 October 20, 2017 at 4:10 AM UTC

To be honest, there are valid reasons for certain staff members being more distant. They don't excuse them from not talking to the community at all, but in general there's nothing really wrong with some moderators being slightly more communicative than others.
If you don't communicate that much and are a bit distant then you shouldn't be a staff member on a Minecraft network.. considering all Minecraft networks rely on communication and approachability in order to grow.

K_R_Cord October 20, 2017 at 7:10 AM UTC

If you don't communicate that much and are a bit distant then you shouldn't be a staff member on a Minecraft network.. considering all Minecraft networks rely on communication and approachability in order to grow.
As someone who is pretty much in charge of a weekly event of this server, this is something I want to highlight. 
With the communication posts I have been posting I have been extremely confident with the events for the future. I feel this because of the certainty that I am able to provide something the community will enjoy. I don't receive terrible backlash because of the certainty I give or the communication I give. I feel that the negative feelings towards my fellow workers are when uncertainty happens and when you are confused it brings out the worst in people. The worst in people bring in negativity and no one wants to go on a server with negativity. I don't want to brag but if the whole leads of departments were as communicative as I have been with the nebula event this server would be doing 10 times better.

SnowSX3 October 20, 2017 at 8:10 AM UTC

As someone who is pretty much in charge of a weekly event of this server, this is something I want to highlight. 
With the communication posts I have been posting I have been extremely confident with the events for the future. I feel this because of the certainty that I am able to provide something the community will enjoy. I don't receive terrible backlash because of the certainty I give or the communication I give. I feel that the negative feelings towards my fellow workers are when uncertainty happens and when you are confused it brings out the worst in people. The worst in people bring in negativity and no one wants to go on a server with negativity. I don't want to brag but if the whole leads of departments were as communicative as I have been with the nebula event this server would be doing 10 times better.
Yep, completely agree.

The last few times I've come back to the Moderation team, my personal goal was to increase communication in all sectors of the staff team. 

This will obviously help the staff team as a whole grow and help staff-community relations which will help grow the server.
blah blah blah it's a snowball effect

Unfortunately it's hard to do that when the people you're trying to work with are prioritising their time on other projects and aren't communicating with each other.. funnily enough.

TheMasterClock October 22, 2017 at 12:10 AM UTC

i suck at chem sry ily
Oh, it's all good my man.

TheMasterClock November 3, 2017 at 12:11 AM UTC

I have to bump this, despite tons of staff responses, nothing has changed. When are you guys going to actually be interactive

SnowSX3 November 3, 2017 at 1:11 AM UTC

I have to bump this, despite tons of staff responses, nothing has changed. When are you guys going to actually be interactive
I have no idea man

_DISTRACTION_ November 3, 2017 at 2:11 PM UTC

I have to bump this, despite tons of staff responses, nothing has changed. When are you guys going to actually be interactive
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen, various staff members have indeed talked to you recently.

PokerFace November 3, 2017 at 6:11 PM UTC

I have to bump this, despite tons of staff responses, nothing has changed. When are you guys going to actually be interactive
To be honest, I really don't know what you are talking about. If you have a question for the moderators to answer in general, I'm pretty sure it's answered 100% of the time as long as it's not a stupid question. The seniors, however is a different story, but in your post you said "most staff" so I'm not sure who you are referring to particularly. If you are talking about general small talk with staff members about random stuff, it is not required that we have to "interact" with you. If you pm one moderator and they don't respond, why not just ask another moderator?

Also, if you can give specific examples about your complaint, that would help very much.

DRAGONRlDER November 4, 2017 at 1:11 AM UTC

avicus staff
lol