Is this how we're gonna operate? by Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
I take a short break for a couple of days and I come back to a friggin cesspool. All the salt dipped on flames. Unfair demotions, arguments all over. Unfriendly relationships and intentions exposed and brought to light...Is this how we're gonna operate? Are we gonna keep on going like this until we're reduced to 50 players like last time? Probably even 10 players? Or none?
Something has to change. It's everybody's fault this time. Kylo, please update to 1.8 xD We're not gonna get new players if we stagnate for the minority.
Staff (Moderators):
As a MapDeveloper I observe the other half of the staff team and compare it to my own and the things I see is utterly unprofessional and childish. You guys have created a Clandestine environment for yourselves. Too secretive and distant. If you don't know what I mean take a gander at the CIA, US Secret Service or ONI from the Halo Universe.
With this type of environment you create a tense atmosphere. You create rivalries and animosity amongst yourselves. You get distracted from your true work as a Moderator and you start to fuck up. Make poor decisions (Apricot's demotion) and you regret them sooner or later. With heavy backlash.
Stop being too secretive amongst yourselves and be more open and casual among the community. Take a gander at the MapDeveloper Team. We're real friendly with ourselves and we even joke and eff around a lot. A lot of people and staff see me ingame and I actively talk with the community and have fun among you guys.
Our job as managers of the Repository doesn't get to us and we cope with this by creating an open and amiable atmosphere.
Moderators, you have to follow this example. Please. You've lost a lot of good people and your credibility is really low right now. I was shocked when Apricot mentioned on his post that you guys told him to act more strict and less casual. This isn't how you build trust and relationships. They may be kids playing but they aren't your kids or siblings. Outsiders don't always respond well to this type of behavior. So be more casual with approaching infractioners... of course, do your job all the same but don't have a cold approach. Have an approach of a calm counselor dealing with an unruly child.
Players:
You guys don't exactly make it easy on the staff as well. When I test certain maps you guys respond with "This map sucks!" and etc. We need actual feedback. What makes the map suck so much?
And you aren't helping the moderators much either by giving them such a hard damn time. I'm gonna be real honest and tell you guys that y'all can be a real sore and annoying bunch. In fact, you guys help push along the salt of Avicus the most. But when a Moderator effs up or makes a very poor decision I'll admit that it pushes the salt the furthest because it's horrifying to see that these people are the ones with such game-changing commands. But you guys push the salt the most.
Stop being a thorn in our sides and try to be nicer. It is so awesome and soothes me when I get to do an event with you guys and y'all are so cheerful and full of amiable feelings. It annoys me when you guys are so hostile. Stop it.
Staff (MapDevs):
Allow for players to accept and deny maps. Was suggested by Excellence. If the others like it, we can give this a trial run and see how it pans out in the long run. Only concern is maybe some biased feelings and unfair judgments but I have high hopes for the forum community.
Staff = Be more open and friendly.
Players = Stop giving the staff a hard time.
AtditC August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
+1 Actually my +1's are not needed because they don't do anything except wasting your time but +1awesome_apricot August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
+1 Actually my +1's are not needed because they don't do anything except wasting your time but +1
@OP +1 (see Atdit's post)
JJTheGuy August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
What's a sesspool?Robin_DD_J August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
Staff swearing + using caps in scrim servers. They are suppose to set an example smh.Map developers, please think on how a defender would like to set up a defense for tournament maps. Because at the moment the defensive part of every map is ******.
Kylo, javi and pav, start fixing things. Like holy shit. The knockback is unfair and stupid. Just a few days ago me and jive was messing around on a map, and he hit me two times and I went literally 10 block back meanwhile Rinn took no knockback during a scrim.
You can SNEAK, SNEAK into ur own room, do you even realise how much of a bug that is? And don't come with the "But staff can punish for it" bullshit. It's a extreme bug for the CTW tournament and needs to be fixed.
PieZ August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
I make everyone's life harder but...we had our disagreements in our past and we might see almost everything in different lights. For the first time...I agree with youZintenka August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
I make everyone's life harder but...we had our disagreements in our past and we might see almost everything in different lights. For the first time...I agree with you
We can put our differences aside :P
Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
What's a sesspool?
Or meaning a corrupt and disgusting place.
JJTheGuy August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
Its an underground storage thingy for liquid waste and sewage.
Or meaning a corrupt and disgusting place.
JCoIe August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
Does Funky even do shit anymore?ImTheRealBakugo August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
+1 Im with Zintenka. Some things needs to be change, and this post is perfect to start.Javipepe August 16, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
To be honest I'm slightly concerned about transparency some times, I really like it and some stuff isn't exactly how I'd do it, however I have to accept it and that's a fact.I'm actually working on something that is more community-interest than anything, and I think it's going to be really cool and that the community will love it. However I want to actually know more things and brainstorm about it before going into any detail. School is about to start and I will make everything I can to make Avicus a better place, with tons more of people.
AtditC August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
To be honest I'm slightly concerned about transparency some times, I really like it and some stuff isn't exactly how I'd do it, however I have to accept it and that's a fact.
I'm actually working on something that is more community-interest than anything, and I think it's going to be really cool and that the community will love it. However I want to actually know more things and brainstorm about it before going into any detail. School is about to start and I will make everything I can to make Avicus a better place, with tons more of people.
Cynthesis August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
I know this is my personality type, but it isn't exactly what should the staff should be: I've been noticing that I'm indecisive, and can never go through with a plan without knowing for sure that it's right. I've been very unwilling to experiment and reach out during my time on the staff team, and I now know that was a very big mistake on my part. But, that doesn't mean that the current staff can't do so now. You need to start making some large-scale changes for the better, or I can guarantee the Avicus economy will look like this:
Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
I know this is my personality type, but it isn't exactly what should the staff should be: I've been noticing that I'm indecisive, and can never go through with a plan without knowing for sure that it's right. I've been very unwilling to experiment and reach out during my time on the staff team, and I now know that was a very big mistake on my part. But, that doesn't mean that the current staff can't do so now. You need to start making some large-scale changes for the better, or I can guarantee the Avicus economy will look like this:
Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
Does Funky even do shit anymore?
Currently, he is developing new YML stuff for us MapMakers to use :)
And I heard that Mobs will be able to spawn on maps when it comes. I'm gonna include a lot of Mob spawners on my newest maps. I already implemented item spawners :)
Cynthesis August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
Yes, he does a lot of things. He codes a lot of plugins and makes sure that the server is running well.
Currently, he is developing new YML stuff for us MapMakers to use :)
And I heard that Mobs will be able to spawn on maps when it comes. I'm gonna include a lot of Mob spawners on my newest maps. I already implemented item spawners :)
JDKL August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
Lets keep this a civilised and mature thread if you want to talk about this. :POgrey August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
Staff swearing + using caps in scrim servers. They are suppose to set an example smh.
Map developers, please think on how a defender would like to set up a defense for tournament maps. Because at the moment the defensive part of every map is ******.
Kylo, javi and pav, start fixing things. Like holy shit. The knockback is unfair and stupid. Just a few days ago me and jive was messing around on a map, and he hit me two times and I went literally 10 block back meanwhile Rinn took no knockback during a scrim.
You can SNEAK, SNEAK into ur own room, do you even realise how much of a bug that is? And don't come with the "But staff can punish for it" bullshit. It's a extreme bug for the CTW tournament and needs to be fixed.
Notalgicular August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
yhh some staff are annoyinh and obnoxious affffffJCoIe August 16, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC
Yes, he does a lot of things. He codes a lot of plugins and makes sure that the server is running well.
Currently, he is developing new YML stuff for us MapMakers to use :)
And I heard that Mobs will be able to spawn on maps when it comes. I'm gonna include a lot of Mob spawners on my newest maps. I already implemented item spawners :)
PieZ August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
yhh some staff are annoyinh and obnoxious affffff
Notalgicular August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
Like you...pew pew
PieZ August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
DaGoldBrick August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
This kind of made me laugh. I'm pretty sure at this point kylo doesn't give a single shit about what happens to avicus. I mean, if he did avicus would get more than 200 players.Ingigo August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
This kind of made me laugh. I'm pretty sure at this point kylo doesn't give a single shit about what happens to avicus. I mean, if he did avicus would get more than 200 players.
JDKL August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
Agreed. Where the heck is Kylo??!?
awesome_apricot August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
Seeing that Kylo has been active on the forums and TeamSpeak, I think he is doing things for Avicus. Also, Kylo has been on vacation for a while.
Ingigo August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
Seeing that Kylo has been active on the forums and TeamSpeak, I think he is doing things for Avicus. Also, Kylo has been on vacation for a while.
Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM UTC
This kind of made me laugh. I'm pretty sure at this point kylo doesn't give a single shit about what happens to avicus. I mean, if he did avicus would get more than 200 players.
You need to fix this.
JDKL August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
Sorry, but I'm utterly confused. He's on Vacation, but he's active on the forums/teamspeak? I haven't seen him on here for the last 2 weeks.
keenanjt August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
Sorry, but I'm utterly confused. He's on Vacation, but he's active on the forums/teamspeak? I haven't seen him on here for the last 2 weeks.
AtditC August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
This kind of made me laugh. I'm pretty sure at this point kylo doesn't give a single shit about what happens to avicus. I mean, if he did avicus would get more than 200 players.
Glitchaye August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
Refer to the leave of absence form for staff - https://avicus.net/forums/e64fb00f9?reply=210364.
DaGoldBrick August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
This is exactly what I'm talking about in part of the players. I don't know what happened to you but you are always post negative stuff on the forums and you're aggressive.
You need to fix this.
keenanjt August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
I dont see any post from you on that thread from recent times. The least you could do is atleast update us on current predicaments.
I'm the last person who should be updating people on "predicaments" as I have been gone...
Glitchaye August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
I linked directly to it.
I'm the last person who should be updating people on "predicaments" as I have been gone...
Yaky August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
I literally see nothing there.
MasterProX August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
I literally see nothing there.
Glitchaye August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
The link works for staff members, at least — the visibility of archived posts to them makes threads appear longer than they do to users who can't view such posts. Click here instead (not like extra browsing would've been too strenuous).
shahmi August 16, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC
Can I just say one thing FUCK THE OMEGA UPDATE SHIT.Its obvious what everyone wants mczone, nebula, and those other 3 servers I forgot the names off.
Im not hating on CTH and stuff keep that but bring back the old days screw 1.8.
Look at kohi, badlion, LOOK MINEPLEX. All 1.7 why cause people like the pvp.
#BringBackMcZoneNebulaAndOther3Servers
everyone that agrees
+1
PieZ August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Can I just say one thing FUCK THE OMEGA UPDATE SHIT.
Its obvious what everyone wants mczone, nebula, and those other 3 servers I forgot the names off.
Im not hating on CTH and stuff keep that but bring back the old days screw 1.8.
Look at kohi, badlion, LOOK MINEPLEX. All 1.7 why cause people like the pvp.
#BringBackMcZoneNebulaAndOther3Servers
everyone that agrees
+1
shahmi August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
-7
jracer15 August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Yes, he does a lot of things. He codes a lot of plugins and makes sure that the server is running well.
Currently, he is developing new YML stuff for us MapMakers to use :)
And I heard that Mobs will be able to spawn on maps when it comes. I'm gonna include a lot of Mob spawners on my newest maps. I already implemented item spawners :)
GrapeSmoothie August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Can I just say one thing FUCK THE OMEGA UPDATE SHIT.
Its obvious what everyone wants mczone, nebula, and those other 3 servers I forgot the names off.
Im not hating on CTH and stuff keep that but bring back the old days screw 1.8.
Look at kohi, badlion, LOOK MINEPLEX. All 1.7 why cause people like the pvp.
#BringBackMcZoneNebulaAndOther3Servers
everyone that agrees
+1
steven5703 August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Can I just say one thing FUCK THE OMEGA UPDATE SHIT.
Its obvious what everyone wants mczone, nebula, and those other 3 servers I forgot the names off.
Im not hating on CTH and stuff keep that but bring back the old days screw 1.8.
Look at kohi, badlion, LOOK MINEPLEX. All 1.7 why cause people like the pvp.
#BringBackMcZoneNebulaAndOther3Servers
everyone that agrees
+1
Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Yeah ok. Want an example of what happens if you're not aggressive and are all like "hey guys improve pls?" Look at MCPVP, a server that was much more successful than avicus eventually to fail because it was overrun with optimistic people.
Optimistic people have a positive view of everything.
What we're doing is routing out problems and trying to fix them. What are you doing?
Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Mob spawns, that sounds fun! I wanted to add mobs to my maps! And I also made a post similar saying that the staff should be more friendly with the community and the community should stop bitching so +1(The great minds keep thinking alike!)
shahmi August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
are you saying mineplex is a pvp server?
Zintenka August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
No just saying that it's a big server and mainly 1.7
shahmi August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
1.8*
Only that hat wizard game is 1.8
TheColdCrafter August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
No mostly all the games are 1.7
Only that hat wizard game is 1.8
And any game is playable on 1.8
shahmi August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
And mine strike
And any game is playable on 1.8
which means u can still play on 1.7
shahmi August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Ok forget plugins and technical stuff.Does anyone want the old Mczone avicus back like seriously
BoldAndBrash August 16, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC
Ok forget plugins and technical stuff.
Does anyone want the old Mczone avicus back like seriously
DaGoldBrick August 17, 2015 at 12:08 AM UTC
So do you suggest we be pessimistic jerks and make the server fail right now? Because if so then you have the wrong audience. We're not being optimistic.
Optimistic people have a positive view of everything.
What we're doing is routing out problems and trying to fix them. What are you doing?
Cynthesis August 17, 2015 at 12:08 AM UTC
The server is going to eventually fail, there is no doubt. I'm not going to waste my time over it (as I DID spend in the past trying to fix the staff but you obviously have no clue about it) because it's literally a waste of time in trying.
Zintenka August 17, 2015 at 1:08 AM UTC
Funny thing is, you keep saying that the server's going to fail and that you don't want to waste time on it, yet you continue to stay on the server that you've "lost faith in."
@DaGoldBrick, you only came here to ridicule this post and the server. Seriously, if you don't believe in the server then just leave.
You can continue to try with the rest of us but I'd say that this post that I made hit a lot of accurate points. A senior even msg'd me directly asking me what they should improve upon. With constructive criticism you get a lot of results.
SnowSX3 August 17, 2015 at 3:08 AM UTC
The server is going to eventually fail, there is no doubt. I'm not going to waste my time over it (as I DID spend in the past trying to fix the staff but you obviously have no clue about it) because it's literally a waste of time in trying.
Oh the irony.
DonaldMyTrump August 17, 2015 at 5:08 AM UTC
Avicus is dead because the people in charge refuse to fix it. The community wasn't the issue at least personally when I was staff, it was other staff.SnowSX3 August 17, 2015 at 6:08 AM UTC
Avicus is dead because the people in charge refuse to fix it. The community wasn't the issue at least personally when I was staff, it was other staff.
It doesn't exactly help.
Zintenka August 17, 2015 at 6:08 AM UTC
When staff screw up, a few people start talking us down then people start jumping on the bandwagon.
It doesn't exactly help.
DonaldMyTrump August 17, 2015 at 7:08 AM UTC
When staff screw up, a few people start talking us down then people start jumping on the bandwagon.
It doesn't exactly help.
Zegita August 17, 2015 at 8:08 AM UTC
Why can't it be like the community in 2013 where staff and players didn't have any secrets with each other what went wrong? As a player I know that we drift the salt but staff have got to cooperate with that as it is their job but don't do it in an immature manner. Let's get back to that nice community that avicus once had and even had over 500 players at one time!DaGoldBrick August 17, 2015 at 9:08 AM UTC
+1 Glad someone said it...
@DaGoldBrick, you only came here to ridicule this post and the server. Seriously, if you don't believe in the server then just leave.
You can continue to try with the rest of us but I'd say that this post that I made hit a lot of accurate points. A senior even msg'd me directly asking me what they should improve upon. With constructive criticism you get a lot of results.
Spoookeh August 17, 2015 at 10:08 AM UTC
"I'm not going to waste my time over it""I still enjoy playing here and would rather play for the time the server has"
Did you not just contradict yourself?
DaGoldBrick August 17, 2015 at 10:08 AM UTC
"I'm not going to waste my time over it"
"I still enjoy playing here and would rather play for the time the server has"
Did you not just contradict yourself?
Subscriptor August 17, 2015 at 10:08 AM UTC
No? I would rather play the game than waste time trying to make it better when there's a high chance it won't.
Spoookeh August 17, 2015 at 10:08 AM UTC
No? I would rather play the game than waste time trying to make it better when there's a high chance it won't.
DaGoldBrick August 17, 2015 at 11:08 AM UTC
"I'm not going to waste my time over it"
Oh the irony.
Zintenka August 17, 2015 at 12:08 PM UTC
I apologise. Next time I see mods in game I'll pretend to hack and get falsely banned to make the server look bad again.
Robin_DD_J August 17, 2015 at 12:08 PM UTC
I don't get you at all...
Zintenka August 17, 2015 at 1:08 PM UTC
Neither do you, you cant change dgbs opinion.
It gives a very confusing signal when he acts like this and claims that he likes the server so much.
ImRaging August 17, 2015 at 2:08 PM UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn0d6qpzepU ?Emmaye August 17, 2015 at 2:08 PM UTC
I apologise. Next time I see mods in game I'll pretend to hack and get falsely banned to make the server look bad again.
enough time playing on the server that you want to try "fixing."
Just giving my opinion here. Don't act like it hit you in the Achilles or anything.
DaGoldBrick August 17, 2015 at 3:08 PM UTC
That really doesn't matter when it comes from you, when you are "pretending to hack." The moderators and staff on this server aren't GCheat or any NCP/AntiCheat robots, although staff can act like them at times. Expecting something and everything on Avicus to be perfect can exist when you imagine that happening, but everything is not perfect, and it's a proven fact. Plus, you actually play in game like normal person should be, or you get your friends and have a tendency of trolling. Comparing this to mcpvp doesn't change anything either, since it's a matter of an opinion. If you are trying to help and fix the server, then it would be nice to just be kind on forums, in game, etc. and not be a prick at all. Then maybe you could possibly get staff if you wanted to, that would help more. And don't call that a waste of time when you spend
enough time playing on the server that you want to try "fixing."
Just giving my opinion here. Don't act like it hit you in the Achilles or anything.
imurs August 17, 2015 at 3:08 PM UTC
Yeah Avicus dying from every perspective. I might leave to overcast soon ;-;DaGoldBrick = Le +1
BmB August 17, 2015 at 3:08 PM UTC
Shit dude right in the achilles! Dualzz > all
DaFrozenBlaze August 17, 2015 at 4:08 PM UTC
Yeah Avicus dying from every perspective. I might leave to overcast soon ;-;
DaGoldBrick = Le +1
Emmaye August 17, 2015 at 6:08 PM UTC
Shit dude right in the achilles! Dualzz > all
DaGoldBrick August 17, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
Mentioning that doesn't really bother me at all.
FrozenSolstice August 17, 2015 at 7:08 PM UTC
Yeah Avicus dying from every perspective. I might leave to overcast soon ;-;
DaGoldBrick = Le +1