We need your feedback! by Posighdun January 6, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

Are there any rules that aren't clear/should be reworded?
Any rules that you believe should be removed and why? Scrimmage servers, make it so like you can say whatever you want on them, I'm tired of players getting in trouble in a scrim/on their own server that they reserved. Mods do not need to moderate chat in scrimmages. Especially since team leaders can invite/uninvited players, they could kick spammers.

Any rules you believe should be added and why? Also the "kys" rule, it does not need to be a ban, people need to learn to get over themselves and people say it over rage on an online game. Make it harder to ban off that. Like maybe a warn, and two-three kicks before a ban, and maybe a week at the most after that.

Also, idk if you want staff suggestions, but that staff rules/policy needs some work too, especially the "leaking" part

Are there any rules that aren't clear/should be reworded?
Any rules that you believe should be removed and why? Scrimmage servers, make it so like you can say whatever you want on them, I'm tired of players getting in trouble in a scrim/on their own server that they reserved. Mods do not need to moderate chat in scrimmages. Especially since team leaders can invite/uninvited players, they could kick spammers.

Any rules you believe should be added and why? Also the "kys" rule, it does not need to be a ban, people need to learn to get over themselves and people say it over rage on an online game. Make it harder to ban off that. Like maybe a warn, and two-three kicks before a ban, and maybe a week at the most after that.

Also, idk if you want staff suggestions, but that staff rules/policy needs some work too, especially the "leaking" part

Are there any rules that aren't clear/should be reworded?
Any rules that you believe should be removed and why? Scrimmage servers, make it so like you can say whatever you want on them, I'm tired of players getting in trouble in a scrim/on their own server that they reserved. Mods do not need to moderate chat in scrimmages. Especially since team leaders can invite/uninvited players, they could kick spammers.

Any rules you believe should be added and why? Also the "kys" rule, it does not need to be a ban, people need to learn to get over themselves and people say it over rage on an online game. Make it harder to ban off that. Like maybe a warn, and two-three kicks before a ban, and maybe a week at the most after that.

Also, idk if you want staff suggestions, but that staff rules/policy needs some work too, especially the "leaking" part

Vouch to remove the kys ban rule. Completely unnecessary and if someone actually does it then they're pretty weak to end it all by taking the advice of someone on Minecraft.
A warn or a kick would be sufficient unless they're spamming it, which is obviously against the rules anyway.

Are there any rules that aren't clear/should be reworded?
Any rules that you believe should be removed and why? Scrimmage servers, make it so like you can say whatever you want on them, I'm tired of players getting in trouble in a scrim/on their own server that they reserved. Mods do not need to moderate chat in scrimmages. Especially since team leaders can invite/uninvited players, they could kick spammers.

Any rules you believe should be added and why? Also the "kys" rule, it does not need to be a ban, people need to learn to get over themselves and people say it over rage on an online game. Make it harder to ban off that. Like maybe a warn, and two-three kicks before a ban, and maybe a week at the most after that.

Also, idk if you want staff suggestions, but that staff rules/policy needs some work too, especially the "leaking" part

1st point: Agree

2nd point: Agree

3rd Point: Leaking is pretty much crystal clear, leaking information = demotion and in SOME cases (depending on what it is) a ban.

Are there any rules that aren't clear/should be reworded?
Any rules that you believe should be removed and why? Scrimmage servers, make it so like you can say whatever you want on them, I'm tired of players getting in trouble in a scrim/on their own server that they reserved. Mods do not need to moderate chat in scrimmages. Especially since team leaders can invite/uninvited players, they could kick spammers.

Any rules you believe should be added and why? Also the "kys" rule, it does not need to be a ban, people need to learn to get over themselves and people say it over rage on an online game. Make it harder to ban off that. Like maybe a warn, and two-three kicks before a ban, and maybe a week at the most after that.

Also, idk if you want staff suggestions, but that staff rules/policy needs some work too, especially the "leaking" part

Are there any rules that aren't clear/should be reworded?
Any rules that you believe should be removed and why? Scrimmage servers, make it so like you can say whatever you want on them, I'm tired of players getting in trouble in a scrim/on their own server that they reserved. Mods do not need to moderate chat in scrimmages. Especially since team leaders can invite/uninvited players, they could kick spammers.

Any rules you believe should be added and why? Also the "kys" rule, it does not need to be a ban, people need to learn to get over themselves and people say it over rage on an online game. Make it harder to ban off that. Like maybe a warn, and two-three kicks before a ban, and maybe a week at the most after that.

Also, idk if you want staff suggestions, but that staff rules/policy needs some work too, especially the "leaking" part

So as a team leader and ex media (LOL) you are actively encouraging suicide on Avicus? Really disappointing to see as you're trying to get back media rank.

But it's stupid that people get punished by saying this otherwise harmless message in chat. If someone is actually that stupidly sensitive that they get turned off by a message in an online block game, I'm sorry, but they need help, big time.

So as a team leader and ex media (LOL) you are actively encouraging suicide on Avicus? Really disappointing to see as you're trying to get back media rank.

Are there any rules that aren't clear/should be reworded?
Any rules that you believe should be removed and why? Scrimmage servers, make it so like you can say whatever you want on them, I'm tired of players getting in trouble in a scrim/on their own server that they reserved. Mods do not need to moderate chat in scrimmages. Especially since team leaders can invite/uninvited players, they could kick spammers.

Any rules you believe should be added and why? Also the "kys" rule, it does not need to be a ban, people need to learn to get over themselves and people say it over rage on an online game. Make it harder to ban off that. Like maybe a warn, and two-three kicks before a ban, and maybe a week at the most after that.

Also, idk if you want staff suggestions, but that staff rules/policy needs some work too, especially the "leaking" part

there is no rule against excessive caps as far as i know lol

To what Devon said:
1: I agree, unless it's way over the top.
2. No... Suicide encouragement in any way shouldn't be allowed. It's not a joke, never should be a joke, and there is no reason for it to come up in a conversation on Avicus unless it's a mature conversation like this is. I don't see why you or anyone would find it okay to tell someone to kill themselves. I don't understand where it becomes okay to literally encourage someone to take their own life. How does this help you get over your anger? Just yell at them through the computer screen. You can do whatever with yourself, but on a public platform is not the place for that kind of toxic behavior. I've said this many, many times in Slack but suicide encouragement isn't a joke, in no way should be a joke, and shouldn't even come up in chat in the first place. Why would it be allowed? 

The argument of "Get over it." doesn't make any sense.You're telling people to deal with you getting mad over a block game, enough to tell them to kill themselves. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Take your own words into consideration. 

3: Talk to Officials.

Section A, #8
"In many instances we would highly encourage you to email [email protected] with details regarding the potential server exploit."

- Replace "email [email protected]" with a link to the GitHub. We don't report bugs to support. :P


Also, something you might want to add to the rules is "Staff members reserve the right to punish a user if they believe the user is negatively impacting the community."

This would foil any ideas of finding loopholes in the rules.

its devon, going to go kill myself over this now

Actually, severe exploits need to go to support

I don't know what you guys have been seeing, but mods are supposed to kick for first offense if someone says "Kys" in chat. We only punish more severely if they come back and do it again, or if it's a more "colorful" message, like "cut your wrists you bitch" or something along those lines.

last time i said kys it was a genuine accident and i got banned straight away.
unless the whole kicking first thing is recent

last time i said kys it was a genuine accident and i got banned straight away.
unless the whole kicking first thing is recent

Please make B.6 more clear... Also to the staff!
I don't even know how many times I had to tell mods they were wrong, according to the rules. I know we don't support crossteaming, but put THAT in the rules, not a cryptic line of text.
The current rule is: Do not cooperate with the enemy team in order to give your team a disadvantage.
I think the rule itself is good, crossteaming should be punishable, but not if it doesn't help any teams (like building houses or rollercoasters).
It's a lot of fun to do that and doesn't annoy anyone, does it?
I suggest keeping the rule ofcourse, but changing how it is said and explaining it to the staff, because they clearly don't know about this.

1. Macros, autoclickers, multiple attack buttons, editing hardware or having software to allow clicking than humanlypossible, changing default mouse interactions, etc. The general rule as to how you should click is one button, one finger, one click.

So you're going to ban for butterfly clicking, how in any way can this be detected apart from word of mouth or a handcam? Also, the rule is unclear, this seems like butterfly clicking isn't allowed but nobody has been punished for it yet, so the rule is useless? Or isn't harsh enough? Or the mods don't understand it and how to punish for it?

I have no clue what you mean by that.

1. Team leaders are ultimately responsible for each team members actions.

So what? You're gonna punish team leaders? What's the point in this rule? What if I don't have a team leader?

1. All server rules apply with the exception of spawn-blocking, spawn-killing, team griefing, combat logging and team spleefing.

Wait what? You're saying that tactical info and glitch abusing isn't allowed? What happens if I'm stratting?  
Also stealing from teammates isn't allowed? 

Ok 

Is anyone going to listen to my feedback?

this is pretty stupid

1. Macros, autoclickers, multiple attack buttons, editing hardware or having software to allow clicking than humanlypossible, changing default mouse interactions, etc. The general rule as to how you should click is one button, one finger, one click.

So you're going to ban for butterfly clicking, how in any way can this be detected apart from word of mouth or a handcam? Also, the rule is unclear, this seems like butterfly clicking isn't allowed but nobody has been punished for it yet, so the rule is useless? Or isn't harsh enough? Or the mods don't understand it and how to punish for it?

I have no clue what you mean by that.

1. Team leaders are ultimately responsible for each team members actions.

So what? You're gonna punish team leaders? What's the point in this rule? What if I don't have a team leader?

1. All server rules apply with the exception of spawn-blocking, spawn-killing, team griefing, combat logging and team spleefing.

Wait what? You're saying that tactical info and glitch abusing isn't allowed? What happens if I'm stratting?  
Also stealing from teammates isn't allowed? 

Ok 

1. Macros, autoclickers, multiple attack buttons, editing hardware or having software to allow clicking than humanlypossible, changing default mouse interactions, etc. The general rule as to how you should click is one button, one finger, one click.

So you're going to ban for butterfly clicking, how in any way can this be detected apart from word of mouth or a handcam? Also, the rule is unclear, this seems like butterfly clicking isn't allowed but nobody has been punished for it yet, so the rule is useless? Or isn't harsh enough? Or the mods don't understand it and how to punish for it?

I have no clue what you mean by that.

1. Team leaders are ultimately responsible for each team members actions.

So what? You're gonna punish team leaders? What's the point in this rule? What if I don't have a team leader?

1. All server rules apply with the exception of spawn-blocking, spawn-killing, team griefing, combat logging and team spleefing.

Wait what? You're saying that tactical info and glitch abusing isn't allowed? What happens if I'm stratting?  
Also stealing from teammates isn't allowed? 

Ok 

What part of the clicking rule confuses you?

Can you not read my points?

So you're going to ban for butterfly clicking, how in any way can this be detected apart from word of mouth or a handcam? Also, the rule is unclear, this seems like butterfly clicking isn't allowed but nobody has been punished for it yet, so the rule is useless? Or isn't harsh enough? Or the mods don't understand it and how to punish for it?

I think that, the KYS rule should be ignored ONLY IF it is a joke among friends - other than that it should be treated as severe rudeness.

Simple and practical suggestion that is very fair among friends but punishes those willing to encourage suicide.

Why do you guys make things so difficult?

Bullshit u won't listen us HAHAHA ur SO funny

I read it but the rule is pretty self explaintory. I don't get where you're getting this 'butterfly clicking isn't allowed' bit from, which is why I'm asking...

Where in that rule does it say Butterfly clicking is illegal or where do you get thay impression from?

Bullshit u won't listen us HAHAHA ur SO funny

"The general rule as to how you should click is one button, one finger, one click."

Section A, #8
"In many instances we would highly encourage you to email [email protected] with details regarding the potential server exploit."

- Replace "email [email protected]" with a link to the GitHub. We don't report bugs to support. :P


Also, something you might want to add to the rules is "Staff members reserve the right to punish a user if they believe the user is negatively impacting the community."

This would foil any ideas of finding loopholes in the rules.

"Staff members reserve the right to punish a user if they believe the user is negatively impacting the community.


surely the point of rules is a guideline of what you can/cannot do on the server. If this was implemented it would completely get rid of the whole point of rules so you can just punish whoever you'd like for reasons that arent in the rules but to you might be 'harming to community'. Also with the way that some of the staff team is right now this would easily make it more corrupt than it already is........

'This would foil any ideas of finding loopholes in the rules.'

then work harder to make sure there arent any loopholes in the rules.

I don't think combat logging should be kickable... Thats what happened to my brother...

Also Junior Mods should be able to ban.

1. Why not?
2. The reason Jr. Mods can't ban is because they need to prove they are responsible enough before they get such permissions

1. Well, I just do not think it is that serious, maybe a warn the first time, then a kick?

2. I see...

I don't think combat logging should be kickable... Thats what happened to my brother...

Also Junior Mods should be able to ban.

A lot of the time, it's very difficult to judge whether it is a joke amongst players or not. Shy of putting "JK" right next to it or immediately afterwards, there's very little way to tell. That's why it's treated with such severity. Moreover, a lot of the time it isn't directed, i.e. "Myworld6, KYS", and thus anyone in that game could take it personally, which is dangerous and can potentially result in harm to the person who takes it as such.

That's why I mean that it should be only said among friends.

Also, I don't see how it'd be difficult. As long as the manner of speech seems confrontational then there should be a punishment.

I also believe that if KYS is said just out of the blue like "kys, hacker" or whatever then it should also be punishable.

"That's why I mean that it should be only said among friends."

The only problem with this is that it's more lenient (biased) toward regulars. Staff will be able to tell if two regulars are joking around but might punish two nobodies who were friends and also joking it is perceived as encouraging suicide. 

I don't really care how this rule gets worked out but this might be a small problem

1) Advertising rule - adjust

I don't think a player should be permanently banned for advertising.  Mods should [warn] not to advertise.  Then if the player does it again, the mods [kick] for advertising.  Finally, if the player does it again or spams the advertising, then the mods will [ban] for one week.

It's not like they are encouraging anyone to kill themselves or hacking or typing racial slurs.  They are just excited about another server and want others to know about it.  Pretty simple.

2) Excessive Infractions rule - eliminate

There should be no [warn], [kick], or [ban] by mods for excessive infractions.   I don't think a player should be penalized for excessive infractions. Each infraction should stand on it's own and have a penalty.  There shouldn't be a cumulative effect.

 Everyone deserves multiple chances to prove themselves a worthy teammate/player.  Plus, many of the players are young on this server and they are still understanding rules and consequences.  Many infractions are many months or years old.  This server needs to keep players, not remove them.

Tl;dr: As long as it isn't confrontational, it is alright.

EDIT: I feel that this should also be said since Avicus mods tend to either be pretty dense (No offense, but some of you can be from my past experiences) and some of you are infraction hungry or just plain corrupt.

You shouldn't punish immediately, just make your presence known first and if both parties say that it is just a joke then back off. 

Simple.

1) Advertising rule - adjust

I don't think a player should be permanently banned for advertising.  Mods should [warn] not to advertise.  Then if the player does it again, the mods [kick] for advertising.  Finally, if the player does it again or spams the advertising, then the mods will [ban] for one week.

It's not like they are encouraging anyone to kill themselves or hacking or typing racial slurs.  They are just excited about another server and want others to know about it.  Pretty simple.

2) Excessive Infractions rule - eliminate

There should be no [warn], [kick], or [ban] by mods for excessive infractions.   I don't think a player should be penalized for excessive infractions. Each infraction should stand on it's own and have a penalty.  There shouldn't be a cumulative effect.

 Everyone deserves multiple chances to prove themselves a worthy teammate/player.  Plus, many of the players are young on this server and they are still understanding rules and consequences.  Many infractions are many months or years old.  This server needs to keep players, not remove them.

1) Advertising rule - adjust

I don't think a player should be permanently banned for advertising.  Mods should [warn] not to advertise.  Then if the player does it again, the mods [kick] for advertising.  Finally, if the player does it again or spams the advertising, then the mods will [ban] for one week.

It's not like they are encouraging anyone to kill themselves or hacking or typing racial slurs.  They are just excited about another server and want others to know about it.  Pretty simple.

2) Excessive Infractions rule - eliminate

There should be no [warn], [kick], or [ban] by mods for excessive infractions.   I don't think a player should be penalized for excessive infractions. Each infraction should stand on it's own and have a penalty.  There shouldn't be a cumulative effect.

 Everyone deserves multiple chances to prove themselves a worthy teammate/player.  Plus, many of the players are young on this server and they are still understanding rules and consequences.  Many infractions are many months or years old.  This server needs to keep players, not remove them.

1) Advertising rule - adjust

I don't think a player should be permanently banned for advertising.  Mods should [warn] not to advertise.  Then if the player does it again, the mods [kick] for advertising.  Finally, if the player does it again or spams the advertising, then the mods will [ban] for one week.

It's not like they are encouraging anyone to kill themselves or hacking or typing racial slurs.  They are just excited about another server and want others to know about it.  Pretty simple.

2) Excessive Infractions rule - eliminate

There should be no [warn], [kick], or [ban] by mods for excessive infractions.   I don't think a player should be penalized for excessive infractions. Each infraction should stand on it's own and have a penalty.  There shouldn't be a cumulative effect.

 Everyone deserves multiple chances to prove themselves a worthy teammate/player.  Plus, many of the players are young on this server and they are still understanding rules and consequences.  Many infractions are many months or years old.  This server needs to keep players, not remove them.

Revert any bans/punishments that no longer apply, remove false bans from profiles, also do a severity system, like certain rules that are more serious require higher punishments, and little ones like publicly accusing people of hacking have much lower punishments like mute.

Insert a Rule Z:

Use common sense in all actions on Avicus platforms. If you think you will be kick, tempedbanned, or banned for something, then don't do it unless you have explicit permission from a staff member ranked Moderator or above. Staff reserve the right to kick, tempban, or ban under any circumstances they deem necessary. And you, as a player, reserves the right to challenge any punishment through action on the Avicus website.

Reasons for this rule: it would cut out all BS in staff actions while allowing players to challenge these actions to make sure they are fair and just. 
Reasons against this rule: cry baby trolls would get angry when they get banned for something not explicitely stated in the rules..

how are people supposed to follow rules they don't know exist?
do you want people to have to ask a staff member every time they do something?

written rules exist for a reason, so that everyone knows exactly what they shouldn't do without having to rely on this "common sense" some people may or may not have, thereby leaving them at a disadvantage

For a long time, people were abusing the staff and the rules by explaining that things weren't explicitely stated. I think that leaving a gap in the rules should be fine. It wouldn't mean that players would have to assume things that aren't blatantly obvious. Listing out everything people can do, what exceptions there are, and when they apply versus when they don't is what has led to the US Tax code and basically all US Laws. It becomes so long and obnoxous that half of it becomes irrelevant.

This rule would save the staff time, players time, and would benefit the server. I think everyone has a degree of common sense, and if everyone thought a little before they acted, no rules would be broken.

The Overcast Network has this at the bottom of their rules page.

The Lifeboat PC Administration reserves the right to ban or unban any player from any Lifeboat PC services for any reason without notice.

I believe it would be beneficial for Avicus to adopt this into our own ruleset to prevent anybody finding loopholes because they got mad about their bans.

The Overcast Network has this at the bottom of their rules page.

The Lifeboat PC Administration reserves the right to ban or unban any player from any Lifeboat PC services for any reason without notice.

I believe it would be beneficial for Avicus to adopt this into our own ruleset to prevent anybody finding loopholes because they got mad about their bans.

The Overcast Network has this at the bottom of their rules page.

The Lifeboat PC Administration reserves the right to ban or unban any player from any Lifeboat PC services for any reason without notice.

I believe it would be beneficial for Avicus to adopt this into our own ruleset to prevent anybody finding loopholes because they got mad about their bans.

Here is a rule suggestion.  Clarify your rules.

I find the rules page confusing since there is no correlation from rule broken to direct punishment for most rules.

The rules page should include a section for each rule stating whether the offense is a warn, kick, temp ban, perm ban, temp web ban, perm web ban, or network ban, if those are all the available options.

So for example:

"Rule A.1 Maintain a casual and positive atmosphere at all times. Be respectful of all players. Harassment and bullying are strictly not allowed."

This is vague. What does "strictly not allowed" mean in terms of punishment? What is the series of step before a ban occurs?  Is it automatically a ban or will the player be warned once and kicked once before considering a ban?  Will it be a temp ban or go directly to a perm ban?

There is a lot of unclear language in all the rules.  Phrases such as, "will result in a severe punishment" or "will not be tolerated" do not indicate the level of punishment that a player may receive for breaking a rule.

It seems like most rules are left to the discretion of the mod and some mods interpret rules differently than the general public.

Clear rules like this one make sense.  Rule A.6 - "Ban evasion is not permitted and will result in a permanent ban on all accounts associated with the original Minecraft account."

This rule clearly states the rule broken and the direct punishment.

I am suggesting a rule system that has the punishments associated with the rule in the same statement or area on the website.

Maybe a statement saying, "All rules will result in a warn, kick, or temp server/web ban [in that order] unless clearly indicated in the rules as a perm server/web ban or network ban. Any player receiving 3 or more infractions for the same rule will result in a perm ban."

Having your rules clearly defined with corresponding punishments may help eliminate confusion for the general public understanding the rules and all mods enforcing the rules.

I don't like you,  ban for you! Ban for you! Here's another ban for you! Try appealing in 4 years!

lol obviously it won't be abused, it just gets used on the rare occasion that someone wants to find loopholes to try and stay on the server after already causing significant harm to it eg) Zac

he just stood for what he believed in, which I admire. Not many people here do that because they are afraid

he just stood for what he believed in, which I admire. Not many people here do that because they are afraid

The Overcast Network has this at the bottom of their rules page.

The Lifeboat PC Administration reserves the right to ban or unban any player from any Lifeboat PC services for any reason without notice.

I believe it would be beneficial for Avicus to adopt this into our own ruleset to prevent anybody finding loopholes because they got mad about their bans.

Here is a rule suggestion.  Clarify your rules.

I find the rules page confusing since there is no correlation from rule broken to direct punishment for most rules.

The rules page should include a section for each rule stating whether the offense is a warn, kick, temp ban, perm ban, temp web ban, perm web ban, or network ban, if those are all the available options.

So for example:

"Rule A.1 Maintain a casual and positive atmosphere at all times. Be respectful of all players. Harassment and bullying are strictly not allowed."

This is vague. What does "strictly not allowed" mean in terms of punishment? What is the series of step before a ban occurs?  Is it automatically a ban or will the player be warned once and kicked once before considering a ban?  Will it be a temp ban or go directly to a perm ban?

There is a lot of unclear language in all the rules.  Phrases such as, "will result in a severe punishment" or "will not be tolerated" do not indicate the level of punishment that a player may receive for breaking a rule.

It seems like most rules are left to the discretion of the mod and some mods interpret rules differently than the general public.

Clear rules like this one make sense.  Rule A.6 - "Ban evasion is not permitted and will result in a permanent ban on all accounts associated with the original Minecraft account."

This rule clearly states the rule broken and the direct punishment.

I am suggesting a rule system that has the punishments associated with the rule in the same statement or area on the website.

Maybe a statement saying, "All rules will result in a warn, kick, or temp server/web ban [in that order] unless clearly indicated in the rules as a perm server/web ban or network ban. Any player receiving 3 or more infractions for the same rule will result in a perm ban."

Having your rules clearly defined with corresponding punishments may help eliminate confusion for the general public understanding the rules and all mods enforcing the rules.

1st one: I agree, mods shouldn't punish on scrim servers unless someone is attacking someone to a ridiculous extent. I can see how mods would punish someone for severely bullying/harassing someone and it would be very obvious if this was the case.

2nd: I don't know how many times I have to say it. There is a difference between being pissed over dying in online lego - "Fuck you you camping shit, you've killed me 5 times, kys" and someone actually trying to bully someone. I understand that it would be terrible if someone self-harmed over mineman, but come on, its the internet... If you can't handle big words coming at you, go play a game where the chat is blocked out so the 10 year olds don't get off the computer and tell mummy and daddy that how to say fuck off was what they learnt today.

3rd: Admittedly the wording of some policies could be done better, but leaking is pretty black and white IMO

Oh boy not the "kys" rule again... Let me rant for a couple minutes.

     Suicide is not a joke and shouldn't be. If you're joking with your friends then you can use /msg or get into a Skype call with them, or whatever else you want to use. Suicidal jokes in a public setting are plain stupid in my opinion. You might be emotionally stable, and able to handle these jokes, and maybe your friends are too, but not everyone is. I don't know many of you personally, and I certainly don't know any of you well enough to know if you are depressed, but there's a point where you have to realize that some people come to Minecraft and video games in general to get away from the bullying at school, or at work, or where ever they may be. Some people use video games as an escape, and when they join a server and half the people say "kys" when they get mad, it doesn't help them at all.

     If you asked me anything that I could want for Avicus to have, it would be a friendly environment for people to play on. Somewhere that I wouldn't mind walking past my 9 year old sister and read chat with her. Somewhere that I know that if something bad happens, or someone is being mean to someone, it will be stopped.

     Even if there isn't a rule against suicide encouragement, it's still extremely rude, and honestly it disappoints me to see people that I call friends encouraging suicide. It doesn't make you look cool, or seem better in any way. If anything it leaves a bad impression on you, and makes a new player think twice before talking with you. That's not something you want in a server that is trying to grow.


Just so people don't think I'm being a complete idiot right now, this is very personal to me, and I feel very strongly about this being at least a kick for first offense. I'm personally not depressed, or suicidal, but I know people that are/were and it's the most terrifying thing to have them tell you that they are thinking about ending their life. It's not a joke, and in no way should it be a joke. I'm sorry if this offended you, or made you feel attacked, but this is how I feel, and I don't see any reason to allow people to literally encourage other people to kill themselves...

Staff re-assessment please.

May I ask why you think we need this?

why would you read chat with your 9 year old sister

tbh a ridiculous expectation

everyone knows why.

For right now, while Avicus is trying to grow, I think that anything that can be offensive towards someone, something that could make people leave, or even if chat leaves a bad impression on Avicus should be against the rules. The last thing we need right now is to allow things like "kys" and the n-word.  We don't need to be driving people away because of something that is extremely rude and disrespectful is not in the rules. 

Also where did I say that this was an expectation? I simply said that if I would have anything for Avicus right now, it would be a cleaner chat. Believe it or not, chat effects people's chances to stay/leave.

Also-Your expectation of allowing people to encourage suicide is quite ridiculous as well. Why would a server that is trying to grow allow people to encourage others to kill themselves. It creates a bad environment and leaves a bad impression on Avicus as a whole, as well as the respect you will get from staff members and other members of the community.

well luckily this whole ocn snafu should help avicus grow a lot with almost no effort

everyone knows why.

May I ask why you think we need this?

Hasn't been done in a long time. Lots of inactive and bad staff members that could be looked into.