Where is staff? Nvm by Crimson_Aught November 19, 2016 at 1:11 PM UTC
You know, today is a weekend day, Saturday, the most playable day of the week for this dying server. And you, dear staff, doesn't moderate it in this wonderful day (it isn't anymore). There is hackers and mad kids party, and no one stops this shit. It ruins pretty everything.I think, someone deserves a demotion.
XtraMajestical November 19, 2016 at 1:11 PM UTC
Staff have lives aswellshadowolfyt November 19, 2016 at 1:11 PM UTC
Need more Aussie ModsClijmart November 19, 2016 at 1:11 PM UTC
I gotta say this is the first time I agree with you. They really need to ór be active, ór get more staff.The weird part is that some staff told me they don't need more staff, since they already had enough, but this clearly proves the opposite.
I think they should open staff applications asap and promote more than 2 players like normal...
There's enough fish in the ocean...
Myworld6 November 19, 2016 at 2:11 PM UTC
Okay, here goes:1. Work: People have Saturday shifts, so they can't moderate.
2. Homework: Homework and other school/college tasks always take priority.
3. Asleep: Self-explanatory.
4. Hobbies: Some people at this time are partaking in different hobbies or clubs, e.g. swimming.
Unfortunately, many of us can't prioritise Avicus over these things, which are very important. Yes, we need more Eastern staff. However, short of handing out the moderator rank to every Eastern player whilst ignoring their work ethic, there's not much we can do.
voidloop November 19, 2016 at 2:11 PM UTC
I don't know how the situation is going right now since I haven't been on for quite a bit. What I'm sure of is that Moderators are people and they have lifes. Exams are coming up in Spain and pretty sure in the rest of Europe.Bloodoh November 19, 2016 at 2:11 PM UTC
More bean mods!AstroPizza November 19, 2016 at 2:11 PM UTC
We are fully aware we have a problem regarding covering all time zones - in this case especially AU. In terms of consistent in-game moderation this is were the problem is we're not going to deny it.Now you're probably sick of hearing the same blab of 'we're working on it.'
But let me assure you now from the bottom of my heart , the problem will be fixed as soon as we are ready.
We need and have been updating docs/formats tirelessly to prepare to fix this problem ; it will be fixed.
More info will be given when available.
I thank you for making a post regarding this problem , it's important we communicate to you guy's and although you could argue we should of made this post first. As i stated we are working to get the right foundations in place.
Consider this an early notice :)
vladthegreat100 November 19, 2016 at 3:11 PM UTC
Ah, I remember the good old days where staff would be trying to not steal all the reports because there were so many staff online.Such great memories
#2014avicusmemories
Numberz_ November 19, 2016 at 4:11 PM UTC
Ah, I remember the good old days where staff would be trying to not steal all the reports because there were so many staff online.
Such great memories
#2014avicusmemories
Crimson_Aught November 19, 2016 at 4:11 PM UTC
I always hear this excuse: "We have our own lifes" and etc. So every staff member can just say, that he has other deals and not to perfom his duties. And what's the point of you being a moderator? Why did you go there? You had to recognize your duties.And I, as players, shouldn't tell you that. But I'm writing this, because nothing happens. And I'm very sad to see this.
Players don't care, what happened behind your screens. Don't get me wrong, I don't try to blame or smth, but you must be online everytime, when someone hacks (or there should be an anti-cheat blah blah blah...). And what you shouldn't do is to tell people what happens on your side of the screen. I know all the reasons.
If there are no online mods, it is mean, there are not enough mods. If there are enough of them, it means, someone is sloth.
Myworld6 November 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM UTC
I always hear this excuse: "We have our own lifes" and etc. So every staff member can just say, that he has other deals and not to perfom his duties. And what's the point of you being a moderator? Why did you go there? You had to recognize your duties.
And I, as players, shouldn't tell you that. But I'm writing this, because nothing happens. And I'm very sad to see this.
Players don't care, what happened behind your screens. Don't get me wrong, I don't try to blame or smth, but you must be online everytime, when someone hacks (or there should be an anti-cheat blah blah blah...). And what you shouldn't do is to tell people what happens on your side of the screen. I know all the reasons.
If there are no online mods, it is mean, there are not enough mods. If there are enough of them, it means, someone is sloth.
It's not even an excuse, though. Late November/December is when most exams take place. If you're trying to say that Avicus takes priority over mock GCSEs, A levels, AS levels, etc. then this thread can be locked and referred back to whenever people mention their exams. If you're not, I fail to see how this is not a legitimate reason for not being on Avicus.
"...but you must be online everytime, when someone hacks..."
With all due respect meant, this is ridiculous. You're talking about having a mod on at every moment of the day, even though most of us share similar timezones. We can't be there 24/7, hence the need for Eastern mods. In regard to this, refer to my last post.
vladthegreat100 November 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM UTC
"I always hear this excuse: "We have our own lifes" and etc. So every staff member can just say, that he has other deals and not to perfom his duties."
It's not even an excuse, though. Late November/December is when most exams take place. If you're trying to say that Avicus takes priority over mock GCSEs, A levels, AS levels, etc. then this thread can be locked and referred back to whenever people mention their exams. If you're not, I fail to see how this is not a legitimate reason for not being on Avicus.
"...but you must be online everytime, when someone hacks..."
With all due respect meant, this is ridiculous. You're talking about having a mod on at every moment of the day, even though most of us share similar timezones. We can't be there 24/7, hence the need for Eastern mods. In regard to this, refer to my last post.
Myworld6 November 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM UTC
Actually exams for Americans are in February and May, and the majority of Staff are Americans.
vladthegreat100 November 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM UTC
And there is usually at least one staff member on during American timezones. However, EU mods have theirs coming up, so it means we can't get on much.
Also specify EU next time then. The original comment you quoted was regarding all staff, and you had continued on by stating "Avicus" and not EU staff.
Big differences.
Myworld6 November 19, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC
Actually that is an incorrect statement. There are lots of times that no American Staff are on.
Also specify EU next time then. The original comment you quoted was regarding all staff, and you had continued on by stating "Avicus" and not EU staff.
Big differences.
If there aren't many mods on at American times, then I agree that that is an entirely different issue and the mods who are in-active should be spoken to. However, expecting a mod to be on at all times to ban hackers is unrealistic.
Junr November 19, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC
Actually exams for Americans are in February and May, and the majority of Staff are Americans.
Edit:
I have 3 more weeks left of the Semester before winter break, so that gives me 2 weeks to prepare.
PokerFace November 19, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC
One of the main problems I believe is that there is a lack of new players who are qualified for this position. Back in the old days, there would consistently be new people to fill in the spots of those who retire. As of now, the moderator team is full of people who have been moderators for years who have found new hobbies and such adding on to less moderation on Avicus. With the declining amount of players, there really isn't many people left who could become a moderator.I for one believe that I am the least utilized moderator who is not on leave. On the weekdays around 8-10pm Hawaii Standard Time (The usual time I'm online), there is nothing to moderate to. Avicus has 0 players online at this time more often than not.
vladthegreat100 November 19, 2016 at 8:11 PM UTC
Where did you hear that? We have final exams at the end of each semester. For me at least, I have final exams the week before winter break in December and on the last week of school too.
Edit:
I have 3 more weeks left of the Semester before winter break, so that gives me 2 weeks to prepare.
resepignev November 19, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC
It would be an utopia if there is always a staff member online when there is a rule breaker.I for myself, I'm working every second weekend (saturday & sunday) and on top of that I currently write at least 2 exams every week. Actually throughout my whole semester I wrote at least 1 exam every week.
To be quite honest, it's stressing me out, especially if I write an exam on monday after I worked on the weekend.
Nonetheless, I try to come onto avicus as much as possible. I'm checking the forums when I'm in school, at work or generally when I'm not home. Same goes for the staff and community slack. If it's very urgent, for example a spammer is online or if a junior mod needs a ban I hop onto minechat and help out.
Even when I do homework (at home) I have minecraft and avicus running.
BUT at some point, you can't do that anymore. It's simply tiring.
Avicus slowly takes over the life you are living. And this is not something positive.
And since you put soo much effort into that, you automatically expect something in return. That is normal and good. And most of the time you get some thank you's when you ban a hacker and you are motivated to keep going.
And then...
... you see such a thread.
Why should I carry on? I come on the server, the TS regularly. I'm active on the forums, like handling reports or appeals and people can always contact me on slack. What am I doing wrong to get such a thread "Where is staff? Maldives?"? It's almost insulting. And I believe I'm not the only moderator that thinks like that.
Yes there aren't always mods on. Reasons for that is their actual life outside of avicus. They still come on the server and moderate, help people out and they should be demoted because they aren't online when you see a hacker?
Now onto the thing about adding more mods. If there were more mod candidates, then we would already notice them. Applications aren't the only way to get new moderators, but people have to meet specific requirements...
Applications wouldn't help with this that much either.
Then why don't we lower the requirements? Because why don't throw the rank at everyone?
It would make the moderator rank less valuable. Something that would be very counterproductive in light of the staff team's past.
Actually I'm on LOA rightnow because I need a break from everything that is happening right now. I need a break to find avicus' spark again. Also my marks dropped a bit xD
VenomousViper November 19, 2016 at 9:11 PM UTC
From my knowledge, a lot of the staff team that are Americans have their exams in February and May because their school year starts in September. I'm going to assume that your school starts before September which is why you have your exams that early.
Myworld6 November 19, 2016 at 10:11 PM UTC
It would be an utopia if there is always a staff member online when there is a rule breaker.
I for myself, I'm working every second weekend (saturday & sunday) and on top of that I currently write at least 2 exams every week. Actually throughout my whole semester I wrote at least 1 exam every week.
To be quite honest, it's stressing me out, especially if I write an exam on monday after I worked on the weekend.
Nonetheless, I try to come onto avicus as much as possible. I'm checking the forums when I'm in school, at work or generally when I'm not home. Same goes for the staff and community slack. If it's very urgent, for example a spammer is online or if a junior mod needs a ban I hop onto minechat and help out.
Even when I do homework (at home) I have minecraft and avicus running.
BUT at some point, you can't do that anymore. It's simply tiring.
Avicus slowly takes over the life you are living. And this is not something positive.
And since you put soo much effort into that, you automatically expect something in return. That is normal and good. And most of the time you get some thank you's when you ban a hacker and you are motivated to keep going.
And then...
... you see such a thread.
Why should I carry on? I come on the server, the TS regularly. I'm active on the forums, like handling reports or appeals and people can always contact me on slack. What am I doing wrong to get such a thread "Where is staff? Maldives?"? It's almost insulting. And I believe I'm not the only moderator that thinks like that.
Yes there aren't always mods on. Reasons for that is their actual life outside of avicus. They still come on the server and moderate, help people out and they should be demoted because they aren't online when you see a hacker?
Now onto the thing about adding more mods. If there were more mod candidates, then we would already notice them. Applications aren't the only way to get new moderators, but people have to meet specific requirements...
Applications wouldn't help with this that much either.
Then why don't we lower the requirements? Because why don't throw the rank at everyone?
It would make the moderator rank less valuable. Something that would be very counterproductive in light of the staff team's past.
Actually I'm on LOA rightnow because I need a break from everything that is happening right now. I need a break to find avicus' spark again. Also my marks dropped a bit xD
SnowSX3 November 19, 2016 at 10:11 PM UTC
Ah, I remember the good old days where staff would be trying to not steal all the reports because there were so many staff online.
Such great memories
#2014avicusmemories
I want to pass my Jr.Mod trial too!!
vladthegreat100 November 19, 2016 at 11:11 PM UTC
Stop stealing my reports vlad!
I want to pass my Jr.Mod trial too!!
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/s SHIT, STAFF CHAT BROKE, GOTTA RELOG
SnowSX3 November 19, 2016 at 11:11 PM UTC
/s Does anyone want to take that report
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/s Staff chat broke, gonna relog guys.
Eklip_Z November 20, 2016 at 3:11 AM UTC
Ah, I remember the good old days where staff would be trying to not steal all the reports because there were so many staff online.
Such great memories
#2014avicusmemories
vladthegreat100 November 20, 2016 at 4:11 AM UTC
2014? There were fights involving guns to get a report, especially when the new Jr Mods came in.
Yes there were guns trying to get the reports, but the majority of the time we would try not to.
Eklip_Z November 20, 2016 at 4:11 AM UTC
Actually you'd be surprised how many moderators actually would keep back to allow the Jr's to get reports and how many mods would actually be asking like 5 times if anyone else wants to get that report.
Yes there were guns trying to get the reports, but the majority of the time we would try not to.
Crimson_Aught December 10, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC
Bump, problem wasn't solved_Nathy December 10, 2016 at 1:12 PM UTC
Bump, problem wasn't solved
Staff have lives buddy.
Pick one:
Demote an amazing staff member who is in their final year and has 6-8 assessments due in the space of 2 weeks limiting their time on to about 4 hours a week or promote a 12 year old who plays minecraft all day, everyday because its "fun fun fun!"
The staff on here don't have to do anything, they volunteer. Why should they put their careers and futures 2nd for a block game?
Sorry, its just the fact that you bumped this that triggered me.
shadowolfyt December 10, 2016 at 1:12 PM UTC
Can you not?
Staff have lives buddy.
Pick one:
Demote an amazing staff member who is in their final year and has 6-8 assessments due in the space of 2 weeks limiting their time on to about 4 hours a week or promote a 12 year old who plays minecraft all day, everyday because its "fun fun fun!"
The staff on here don't have to do anything, they volunteer. Why should they put their careers and futures 2nd for a block game?
Sorry, its just the fact that you bumped this that triggered me.
Aphelion December 10, 2016 at 1:12 PM UTC
Can you not?
Staff have lives buddy.
Pick one:
Demote an amazing staff member who is in their final year and has 6-8 assessments due in the space of 2 weeks limiting their time on to about 4 hours a week or promote a 12 year old who plays minecraft all day, everyday because its "fun fun fun!"
The staff on here don't have to do anything, they volunteer. Why should they put their careers and futures 2nd for a block game?
Sorry, its just the fact that you bumped this that triggered me.
Crimson_Aught December 10, 2016 at 2:12 PM UTC
Can you not?
Staff have lives buddy.
Pick one:
Demote an amazing staff member who is in their final year and has 6-8 assessments due in the space of 2 weeks limiting their time on to about 4 hours a week or promote a 12 year old who plays minecraft all day, everyday because its "fun fun fun!"
The staff on here don't have to do anything, they volunteer. Why should they put their careers and futures 2nd for a block game?
Sorry, its just the fact that you bumped this that triggered me.
Nvm, I give up now.
It will never be solved. It is super sad for me to see, how my favorite server dies, and I can't do anything with that. And nothing helps. Very very sad.
If this thread is just an eyewinker for someone, let it be so.
Lock it, please
benaye December 10, 2016 at 2:12 PM UTC
I fully agree with Crimson here, we all have lives, we just use them for playing Minecraft, like the fucking staff should.AtditC December 10, 2016 at 2:12 PM UTC
The server dies and so does the activity of the staff members :/Clijmart December 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM UTC
I totally get that staff has more important stuff to do, and I respect that, but that still makes it a good reason to demote. It's not like there are only 12 year olds and inactive players. There are enough fish in the sea, you just have to put more effort in trying to catch them.Instead of whining about there not being enough staff, try to become one yourself.
Instead of telling players that staff is busy, accept more/different players and demote the inactive ones.
Ofcourse, people have lifes, but does that mean they can be staff without helping the server?
Just tell them to apply again when they got time again.
Being staff should be something hard to get, something people should love to get. Not a rank you can have by not helping the server at all.
Hope this helps... Just my opinion :P
PieZ December 10, 2016 at 5:12 PM UTC
This is a problem that has a lot of elements combined to cause the inactiveness. Sadly, it is not a problem we can fix in the matter of days. We are creating ways to improve the staff team in all fronts as well as activity and the plans we have should start taking place in the next coming weeks.Myworld6 December 10, 2016 at 9:12 PM UTC
Can you not?
Staff have lives buddy.
Pick one:
Demote an amazing staff member who is in their final year and has 6-8 assessments due in the space of 2 weeks limiting their time on to about 4 hours a week or promote a 12 year old who plays minecraft all day, everyday because its "fun fun fun!"
The staff on here don't have to do anything, they volunteer. Why should they put their careers and futures 2nd for a block game?
Sorry, its just the fact that you bumped this that triggered me.
Crimson_Aught December 11, 2016 at 12:12 PM UTC
Hello? I've asked to lock. Can't you do that? Or what will be a new exuse?
Thanks in advance!