Before you read I would like you the reader to read all of the information I post. Saying that I would like to warn you that this is going to be a very long post and if you do not have the time I would suggest that if you do not have 10 minutes of your time to read or to contribute to leave this post until you do.
First off people are going to be saying the same thing. “Oh no, not a useless post about telling the community about the problems of this server.” In all honesty you do have the right to think that but I am not going to be doing that in my post. In all due respect to the people that tried making the posts referring the problems you are doing it wrong. Everyone that posted that actually wanted to try to help the Avicus Network did wrong.
In the state of the Avicus Network right now we have 4 parties, staff, John Cena Imposters, Numberz Salt Crew, and everyone else. These parties have been taking the forums over and have been fighting to no ends extent to try to prove them right while in reality, the Avicus Network is crumbling. History Repeats and one of the strongest empires was India when a man named Akbar was in charged. Akbar had a kingdom that had separate religions. Akbar learned that to have a strong kingdom you needed tolerance from the religions. The kingdom was extremely powerful for the rest of his rule when tolerance in religions formed in India.
Same thing can apply to Avicus Network. From all the four groups they have something in common. The similarity is that we want Avicus to live on. You can be a skeptic about if Avicus is dying or not but do you want such a divided community that is killing off the forum activity. We have 2 fun threads where everything else is about blaming another part of the community.
So am I going to leave it there with just telling you we have to have tolerance and to save the community with just that? I have decided to become a leader for the server when I made this post and I will be working to help the problems. How this will work is that in this thread alone. You are not from the Salt Crew, From John Cena, even from staff. You are a member of Avicus that wants to see the network live and you have a valid concern. You may not like everyone that you work with and I may not like you, but I would ask for your respect as we are teammates to work on this project together. Do not call each other idiots, don’t be an idiot, and remember that every opinion is valid to a curtain extent.
On this post, this is where I will only address staff as a different part of community. I request that everything that makes you have ideas will be discussed here only. I do not wish for secretive conversations and most of the community doesn’t wish for it either. You are community members and you will help with your community members, not with others in a secretive area. Also another request I make for staff is not to moderate this forum. When I ask for this I wish that I call the shots. If someone posts something inappropriate then I will request for a moderator to remove it. I would like the mindset of staff and the community that everyone in this thread is your fellow community members wanting to make a positive change. This will also remove the illusion that is called “staff vs community” which people use to start useless arguments.
Before I reveal how this will work, I have one other thing that I would like to say about the recent threads addressing the problems. Their main mistake also is just addressing the problems and the finger is usually pointed at a curtain crowd. Usually the people that get pointed at go a little too defensive and soon enough we are in this endless state that is ping pong where people argue about the small stuff where the real problems are not being addressed.
What is my plan you ask? My plan is to try to unify the Avicus Network’s community and to focus on problems slowly instead of stating 50 problems at a time, I will post 2 problems and I will change them once those problems are fixed. I will repeat this until the community is mostly unified and I do not feel I have to lead anymore.
So what are the problems? This is where the community comes together. I would like to ask staff and players to post problems that they wish the community would look at as a whole. I will also be posting a sheet with everyone’s suggestions and the ones the community wishes to work on the most. I will also be posting themes the problems have to roll around because the community obviously can’t fix problems like block lag or hit lag.
No pointing fingers and work with everyone. I do not like how Avicus is right now and a lot of others don’t either. Instead of doing stupid shit, we can move forward as a whole instead of moving in every other direction. We need everyone’s help for this. I don’t care who you are. Drop your pride and help Avicus.
So let’s discuss. The first theme I would like to work on in unification of the community
Is this regarding scrim servers, because Im somewhat confused right now..
Personally I don't see any problem with Avicus besides the player rate, to me Avicus is a lot more enjoyable than OCN. The Maps selection is great, the scrim servers are a plus, and the community is far better than the one back at OCN. The things that may need a bit of tweaking such as removing some gamemodes or reviving them somehow won't really happen unless the owner or some higher up staff get the urge to improve. Until then we are stuck with what we have, which is fine by me.
Personally I don't see any problem with Avicus besides the player rate, to me Avicus is a lot more enjoyable than OCN. The Maps selection is great, the scrim servers are a plus, and the community is far better than the one back at OCN. The things that may need a bit of tweaking such as removing some gamemodes or reviving them somehow won't really happen unless the owner or some higher up staff get the urge to improve. Until then we are stuck with what we have, which is fine by me.
Gurk shares quite similar views to me, honestly if more work went into player count, then all the negative players and all the stupid try hards who use this as an outlet for having something to argue with and something to try and look cool on; would simply be drowned out. There is no point making this bigger than it actually is. Just get rid of sort out the people who cause problems, minimise staff arguments within each other and learn to work as a proper unit. Get the competitive scene thriving and advertise the competitive side better as that is the most likely feature to attract players. I genuinely just want more teams to play against, more events and meet more new players.
Honestly, all you have to improve is
- Make the Rules and Guidelines clearer
-Fix Block Lag
-The Relations between the Community and Staff
-Staff Efficiency and for Staff to be a bit less biased
-Player Rate
It's just a generalization of the points and people are trying to put forward. Just looks at posts similar to this one and you'll find issues falling down to one of these points I have made. Thanks
Btw, Pie, I agree with you with some points.
Honestly, all you have to improve is
- Make the Rules and Guidelines clearer
-Fix Block Lag
-The Relations between the Community and Staff
-Staff Efficiency and for Staff to be a bit less biased
-Player Rate
It's just a generalization of the points and people are trying to put forward. Just looks at posts similar to this one and you'll find issues falling down to one of these points I have made. Thanks
Btw, Pie, I agree with you with some points.
The only thing as a community that I feel we can fix is
-Rules and Guidelines clearer
-Relations between the Community and Staff
Discuss on these points
To be honest, I do agree with what most people have said. I have seen the server from both sides and can say that both sides need to take a chill pill. I myself have tried to. I never really intended for an argument to start... Alas, I really think that once we start advertising the servers competitive side and we update to 1.8 we will experience a nice new player base! However, I really think we should update to 1.8 before the tournament! Seeing as that I will be spending my last few weeks on Avicus I shall contribute to it how I should, and how I have... Anyways, I think that regarding TS we should let community members run it. I know it sounds crazy but think about it! Its actually not a bad idea. The TS community will get their voices heard by the person in charge, and the staff get a break from criticism regarding Team-speak.
- Make the Rules and Guidelines clearer I agree
-Fix Block Lag I think this one is being fixed with 1.8!
-The Relations between the Community and Staff Definitely, I think both sides need to calm down a bit, and then sit over a cup of tea and discuss. Overall, I think that the community needs to blend more together as opposed to being the oil and water we are now!
-Staff Efficiency and for Staff to be a bit less biased To be honest the staff is not really bias. The term is thrown around quite a bit in bad ways in my opinion..
-Player Rate Definitely needs to increase, advertising and 1.8 must be implemented! I would also like a new map making system, that prioritizes gameplay over aesthetics.
Regarding relations, the best thing we can do is probably integrate the two into each other through the variety of medias avicus has. Overall, Teamspeak has always been a great tool regarding relations etc.. However, with the recent changes that I have discussed quite a bit (:P), I cant say that some players kind of want to hide from staff. I know it sounds stupid, but some people are feeling this way. :(
Again I apologise for only caring about Teamspeak, but like Indian Tech Support's love for phone calls, I love Teamspeak (hehehehehehe)
All of your ideas are awesome, although I don't really understand how community controlling teamspeak would work. I mean yeah, most people think the staff are bad at running it which is somewhat true, but consistent trolling is bound to happen.
I like that idea. I remember when Cyclops was having those community events and everyone was just having fun and no one cared about anything. Maybe we could try to get a community event back up
All of your ideas are awesome, although I don't really understand how community controlling teamspeak would work. I mean yeah, most people think the staff are bad at running it which is somewhat true, but consistent trolling is bound to happen.
I personally know that Rob was planning on getting the UHC's back up. However, the low regular count pushed him away D:
We don't need to have robo do anything really. PPB can get by with his lack of leadership(Fight me if you see this robo) and the community can also. We can have Friday events just to have fun with the community
lol I realized this post was a joke and stopped reading once I saw "Numberz Salt Crew".
So many people are salty but NOT because of 99. He might have been the first one and one of the most saltiest out of them all but everyone is salty because they chose to be salty... alone. There is no "salt crew" as you call it, it's just everyone who decides to be salty.
So maybe do your fair share before starting accusations or non existent clubs that just ruing a person's reputation please...
cool but I don't think you should compare Avicus to India ]
but i like it
lol I realized this post was a joke and stopped reading once I saw "Numberz Salt Crew".
So many people are salty but NOT because of 99. He might have been the first one and one of the most saltiest out of them all but everyone is salty because they chose to be salty... alone. There is no "salt crew" as you call it, it's just everyone who decides to be salty.
So maybe do your fair share before starting accusations or non existent clubs that just ruing a person's reputation please...
Really simple solutions
make minecraft playable eg block lag kb issues
when some1 becomes mod they need to still be a player I think there's a general fear that if "I'm not 100% serious and fuck around with friends ill be demoted" plz get that mindset out of them.
get our name out there, get behind this shadowolf bloke and other live streamers, we need advertising
Really simple solutions
make minecraft playable eg block lag kb issues
when some1 becomes mod they need to still be a player I think there's a general fear that if "I'm not 100% serious and fuck around with friends ill be demoted" plz get that mindset out of them.
get our name out there, get behind this shadowolf bloke and other live streamers, we need advertising
lol I realized this post was a joke and stopped reading once I saw "Numberz Salt Crew".
So many people are salty but NOT because of 99. He might have been the first one and one of the most saltiest out of them all but everyone is salty because they chose to be salty... alone. There is no "salt crew" as you call it, it's just everyone who decides to be salty.
So maybe do your fair share before starting accusations or non existent clubs that just ruing a person's reputation please...
Gurk shares quite similar views to me, honestly if more work went into player count, then all the negative players and all the stupid try hards who use this as an outlet for having something to argue with and something to try and look cool on; would simply be drowned out. There is no point making this bigger than it actually is. Just get rid of sort out the people who cause problems, minimise staff arguments within each other and learn to work as a proper unit. Get the competitive scene thriving and advertise the competitive side better as that is the most likely feature to attract players. I genuinely just want more teams to play against, more events and meet more new players.
You're a joke.
I'm being serious. Instead of actually reading the post PieZ made, you are commenting bashing the thread because you saw "Numberz salt crew" . Thus, You. Are. A. Joke.
OFF OF THAT TOPIC. Now, what I think the BEST thing to get correct at this point in time, is changing the rules from guidelines to set in stone rules.
Why?
Set-in-Stone rules make it so there is a 0% chance of confusion in the community. If there are just guidelines, nobody knows what is right and wrong at a first glance.
pls fix.
I rather not have a fight on this so I will try to get you to settle down(I am trying to be nice. I am not used to it) I am really just waiting for the admins and sr mods to comment on this to see if the suggestions are getting out there
avicus is dying due to lack of gamemodes, especially avicus. Avicus has 1 gamemode that people play, ofc people play the others sometimes but nebula is all that gets played. Instead of trying to add other crappy gamemodes and pointless gamemodes like the walls, just focus on improving the one that you have and is your best. Try to expand on that, advertising it more, which will eventually work and get more players, more regular tourneys with big streamers, pay for a youtuber to advertise avicus.
this was on my phone excuse the poor punctuation
I commend you for your leadership and initiative, Pie. It's good to see there are still people who are willing to help Avicus back onto it's feet, that's awesome!
I've read through all your points, and read almost every post on this thread and I can confirm that the admins are going to release the October monthly update (which will probably be the biggest update you will see) very soon, that will address most of your topics.
One of my ideas that I have is to make something very similar to Pavilion's "developer suggestion box" where the community can send in legitimate suggestions directly to the seniors, then the senior moderators would send out an email personally directed to you explaining if your suggestion has been rejected, processed or accepted.
We can also revive the weekly discussions that Howsie started, where, there would be a topic that the seniors wish to discuss. From there, the whole thread would be dedicated to that topic and at the end of the week we can all conclude.
At the moment, the staff team is internally stable so it's time to direct and dedicate our attention to the community. That being said, the staff team isn't happy with the users who are just throwing insults towards us, so if that can stop this whole staff & community relationship improvement would greatly speed up.
Thanks again, Pie, and too all users who are assisting Avicus to improve from a community perspective with respect and constructiveness!
I commend you for your leadership and initiative, Pie. It's good to see there are still people who are willing to help Avicus back onto it's feet, that's awesome!
I've read through all your points, and read almost every post on this thread and I can confirm that the admins are going to release the October monthly update (which will probably be the biggest update you will see) very soon, that will address most of your topics.
One of my ideas that I have is to make something very similar to Pavilion's "developer suggestion box" where the community can send in legitimate suggestions directly to the seniors, then the senior moderators would send out an email personally directed to you explaining if your suggestion has been rejected, processed or accepted.
We can also revive the weekly discussions that Howsie started, where, there would be a topic that the seniors wish to discuss. From there, the whole thread would be dedicated to that topic and at the end of the week we can all conclude.
At the moment, the staff team is internally stable so it's time to direct and dedicate our attention to the community. That being said, the staff team isn't happy with the users who are just throwing insults towards us, so if that can stop this whole staff & community relationship improvement would greatly speed up.
Thanks again, Pie, and too all users who are assisting Avicus to improve from a community perspective with respect and constructiveness!
Oh no, 1.8 isn't it :(
I was talking about the monthly update thread :P
I commend you for your leadership and initiative, Pie. It's good to see there are still people who are willing to help Avicus back onto it's feet, that's awesome!
I've read through all your points, and read almost every post on this thread and I can confirm that the admins are going to release the October monthly update (which will probably be the biggest update you will see) very soon, that will address most of your topics.
One of my ideas that I have is to make something very similar to Pavilion's "developer suggestion box" where the community can send in legitimate suggestions directly to the seniors, then the senior moderators would send out an email personally directed to you explaining if your suggestion has been rejected, processed or accepted.
We can also revive the weekly discussions that Howsie started, where, there would be a topic that the seniors wish to discuss. From there, the whole thread would be dedicated to that topic and at the end of the week we can all conclude.
At the moment, the staff team is internally stable so it's time to direct and dedicate our attention to the community. That being said, the staff team isn't happy with the users who are just throwing insults towards us, so if that can stop this whole staff & community relationship improvement would greatly speed up.
Thanks again, Pie, and too all users who are assisting Avicus to improve from a community perspective with respect and constructiveness!
I commend you for your leadership and initiative, Pie. It's good to see there are still people who are willing to help Avicus back onto it's feet, that's awesome!
I've read through all your points, and read almost every post on this thread and I can confirm that the admins are going to release the October monthly update (which will probably be the biggest update you will see) very soon, that will address most of your topics.
One of my ideas that I have is to make something very similar to Pavilion's "developer suggestion box" where the community can send in legitimate suggestions directly to the seniors, then the senior moderators would send out an email personally directed to you explaining if your suggestion has been rejected, processed or accepted.
We can also revive the weekly discussions that Howsie started, where, there would be a topic that the seniors wish to discuss. From there, the whole thread would be dedicated to that topic and at the end of the week we can all conclude.
At the moment, the staff team is internally stable so it's time to direct and dedicate our attention to the community. That being said, the staff team isn't happy with the users who are just throwing insults towards us, so if that can stop this whole staff & community relationship improvement would greatly speed up.
Thanks again, Pie, and too all users who are assisting Avicus to improve from a community perspective with respect and constructiveness!
Speaking of Pavilion, where is he?
Speaking of Pavilion, where is he?