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Computer Build by Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 12:06 AM UTC

I currently have a really old, laggy and somewhat painful laptop!
However, I have been saving alot for a while and would love to get some DESKTOP!!!
build ideas. Now I am not really concerned about the price as long as it is not like $1500
or something. Plz I have heard there are some real computer genius' here and I am expecting
great things.
P.S really sorry  as I'm sure many people have asked this question before

Cheers, 
Hudmister14

Conditions:
Minimum of 8GB of RAM
Cost is not over $1500 AUD
Must include a monitor preferably "24" inch
This is just one website that could possibly be used 
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

Loo June 27, 2015 at 12:06 AM UTC

So are you willing to spend $1,500 or not? If you are, this would fit your budgethttp://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/jRR2Mp, if not, please give me a specific budget to work with. Also, if you want, I can help you over skype as it's just better for me and I can give you more information.

_Phyre June 27, 2015 at 12:06 AM UTC

So are you willing to spend $1,500 or not? If you are, this would fit your budgethttp://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/jRR2Mp, if not, please give me a specific budget to work with. Also, if you want, I can help you over skype as it's just better for me and I can give you more information.
This is after all Australia :P

Loo June 27, 2015 at 12:06 AM UTC

This is after all Australia :P
Yeah, the wording is funny so I don't understand how much he can spend on it :P

_Phyre June 27, 2015 at 12:06 AM UTC

Yeah, the wording is funny so I don't understand how much he can spend on it :P
As I understand, it can't be more than $1,500 AUD

Loo June 27, 2015 at 12:06 AM UTC

As I understand, it can't be more than $1,500 AUD
Yeah I understand that too, but at the beginning he also said "as long as it's not like $1500" so... xP

"No more" can also mean the exact $1500

_Phyre June 27, 2015 at 12:06 AM UTC

Purely Gaming (No recording, streaming, etc) (AAA games at Low-Med Settings, MC at Med-Max):
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/wrre/saved/hHvkcf
  [2x2 GB isn't recommended, 4x1 is better if you're going to upgrade it]
 
Recording Games (Mid-range type PC, will do good for the most part):
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/wrre/saved/kNkPxr
 
Streaming / HD Gaming ; Workstation PC:
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/wrre/saved/hQCV3C
  [For this, you may want to savage some parts from old PC's such as a hardrive, OS or any other thing that you can find, but this is borderline best of what you're looking for. 8GB of Ram is more than enough, even for rendering (1080p 60fps), so yea, and If any tech savvy people can reduce the price of this, that would be cool too :P]

Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 2:06 AM UTC

As I understand, it can't be more than $1,500 AUD
 Thats right, really sorry for the confusion, It has to be under $1,500 and if 
possible under $1,300

Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 2:06 AM UTC

Yeah, the wording is funny so I don't understand how much he can spend on it :P
Really sorry for the confusion ur partlist is excellent and if you want an 
exact budget between $0- 1,300 would be ideal thank you

Scorpioon June 27, 2015 at 2:06 AM UTC

What about getting an AlienWare?

Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 3:06 AM UTC

Yeah I understand that too, but at the beginning he also said "as long as it's not like $1500" so... xP

"No more" can also mean the exact $1500
Thank you so much for the advice!!! 
I combined ideas from both yourself and _PHYRE_ and created this part list 
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Hudmister14/saved/wGmH99 
Questions:
Is 16GB of RAM necessary?
Is an optical drive necessary?
Windows 7 or Windows 8? 
I was sure the graphics card you were going to suggest would be a GTX 800 or 900, Is the GTX overpriced or bad?
Overall thx for the advice I hope you understood this one haha :p

Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 3:06 AM UTC

What about getting an AlienWare?
Definitley not

Scorpioon June 27, 2015 at 3:06 AM UTC

Definitley not
So, youre not looking for a totally pc, right? Just for the parts?

Loo June 27, 2015 at 3:06 AM UTC

Really sorry for the confusion ur partlist is excellent and if you want an 
exact budget between $0- 1,300 would be ideal thank you
Okay, this is what I would recommend for you: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2rFQ23 I'll give you the rationale below as to why I chose these parts in particular.

CPU: Intel i5-4460 This one has 4 really strong cores, it can handle any game you throw at it. It's also good at video/image editing and rendering, not as good as an i7 but still very good.

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Good motherboard for the price, has all the basic features the average user needs. I actually have this motherboard and so far it has held up well. The only downside you might encounter with it is that it doesn't have front USB 3.0 ports however it does have 2 on the back. I don't use any USB 3.0 devices so that's not a problem for me.

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB Really any RAM will do, Kingston is very good and in my opinion looks very good as well. 8GB is plenty for anything you will be doing.

Storage (HDD): Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB Yup, 1TB of space, it will take you quite a while to use it up. It's one of the most reliable hard drives out there, I also have this one.

Storage (SSD): Samsung 850 EVO Very reliable piece of hardware as well, fast speeds and great performance. Things get a little complicated here though, this part is NOT required for your computer, in fact, it's what caused me to go over the budget. However, if you want really really fast boot and loading times, you will want to get this. Your computer will be in the desktop in less than 5 seconds. Games like Skyrim and Fallout will have really short loading screens. It's perfectly fine if you don't want to spend the extra cash as it's not really necessary, but in my opinion, well worth it. If you don't buy it, the HDD will be more than enough however you will have to deal with slightly longer loading times. Also, buying this will give you a bit more extra space apart from the 1TB.

Video Card: Gygabite R9 280 3GB Windforce This card will handle pretty much anything you throw at it at 1080p resolution, it has a good cooler and 3GB of VRAM. This should get you well above 60FPS on most Steam games. It can also run Minecraft at above 500 FPS, max settings.

Case: NZXT S340 Not much to say here, good looking (in my opinion), has a lot of space, good cable management and good airflow.

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W Reliable, leaves room for plenty of upgrades. I have an EVGA power supply as well and so far I've had no problems.

Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" BenQ is very popular for its monitors. 1080p, 60Hz, everything you need from a gaming monitor. It's also the size you asked for.

Well, that's my rationale. I wish you luck in your build and hopefully you enjoy it.

Loo June 27, 2015 at 3:06 AM UTC

Thank you so much for the advice!!! 
I combined ideas from both yourself and _PHYRE_ and created this part list 
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Hudmister14/saved/wGmH99 
Questions:
Is 16GB of RAM necessary?
Is an optical drive necessary?
Windows 7 or Windows 8? 
I was sure the graphics card you were going to suggest would be a GTX 800 or 900, Is the GTX overpriced or bad?
Overall thx for the advice I hope you understood this one haha :p
Oops, didn't look at your best before my posting my other one. 

1. No, it's not necessary, it's actually a bit excessive unless you're going to be doing extremely heavy rendering and editing. It wouldn't fit your build and budget anyway.

2. No, you can install Windows with a USB. Don't get one if you're not going to use it.

3. Doesn't matter, you can upgrade to Windows 10 from both anyway. I recommend Windows 8.1 for now though. Also it's cheaper and available.

4. No, they are actually very good cards. However, at your price range, the R9 280 beats the GTX 960. The model I recommended has 3GB so it will handle games better.

Also, I don't recommend going with an AMD CPU, Intel is better for gaming as it has significantly stronger cores than AMD. Most games only use 1-2 cores, some games are starting to use 4 which means you will still be covered by Intel.

_Phyre June 27, 2015 at 3:06 AM UTC

Okay, this is what I would recommend for you: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2rFQ23 I'll give you the rationale below as to why I chose these parts in particular.

CPU: Intel i5-4460 This one has 4 really strong cores, it can handle any game you throw at it. It's also good at video/image editing and rendering, not as good as an i7 but still very good.

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Good motherboard for the price, has all the basic features the average user needs. I actually have this motherboard and so far it has held up well. The only downside you might encounter with it is that it doesn't have front USB 3.0 ports however it does have 2 on the back. I don't use any USB 3.0 devices so that's not a problem for me.

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB Really any RAM will do, Kingston is very good and in my opinion looks very good as well. 8GB is plenty for anything you will be doing.

Storage (HDD): Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB Yup, 1TB of space, it will take you quite a while to use it up. It's one of the most reliable hard drives out there, I also have this one.

Storage (SSD): Samsung 850 EVO Very reliable piece of hardware as well, fast speeds and great performance. Things get a little complicated here though, this part is NOT required for your computer, in fact, it's what caused me to go over the budget. However, if you want really really fast boot and loading times, you will want to get this. Your computer will be in the desktop in less than 5 seconds. Games like Skyrim and Fallout will have really short loading screens. It's perfectly fine if you don't want to spend the extra cash as it's not really necessary, but in my opinion, well worth it. If you don't buy it, the HDD will be more than enough however you will have to deal with slightly longer loading times. Also, buying this will give you a bit more extra space apart from the 1TB.

Video Card: Gygabite R9 280 3GB Windforce This card will handle pretty much anything you throw at it at 1080p resolution, it has a good cooler and 3GB of VRAM. This should get you well above 60FPS on most Steam games. It can also run Minecraft at above 500 FPS, max settings.

Case: NZXT S340 Not much to say here, good looking (in my opinion), has a lot of space, good cable management and good airflow.

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W Reliable, leaves room for plenty of upgrades. I have an EVGA power supply as well and so far I've had no problems.

Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" BenQ is very popular for its monitors. 1080p, 60Hz, everything you need from a gaming monitor. It's also the size you asked for.

Well, that's my rationale. I wish you luck in your build and hopefully you enjoy it.
Really nice build, The i5-4460 is definitely a bang for the buck processor, The R9 280 will do just great fro any game, at medium-high settings and honestly really good build, nice parts b0ss :)

(As for AMD Processors, they're still really good, I just hate how AMD lied about the 390X and The Fury X, they still fall behind far from the top tier Titan X and 980 Ti)

Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 5:06 AM UTC

Oops, didn't look at your best before my posting my other one. 

1. No, it's not necessary, it's actually a bit excessive unless you're going to be doing extremely heavy rendering and editing. It wouldn't fit your build and budget anyway.

2. No, you can install Windows with a USB. Don't get one if you're not going to use it.

3. Doesn't matter, you can upgrade to Windows 10 from both anyway. I recommend Windows 8.1 for now though. Also it's cheaper and available.

4. No, they are actually very good cards. However, at your price range, the R9 280 beats the GTX 960. The model I recommended has 3GB so it will handle games better.

Also, I don't recommend going with an AMD CPU, Intel is better for gaming as it has significantly stronger cores than AMD. Most games only use 1-2 cores, some games are starting to use 4 which means you will still be covered by Intel.
It turned out a little bit more expensive but I added the i5 processor as you both agreed it was better
 and  I changed the motherboard due to compatibility with the processor 
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Hudmister14/saved/#view=wGmH99
Thank you both so much for the advice I have one final question however,
Do I need a CPU cooler? I know its not necessary but is it worth getting?
Cheers,
Hudmister14

Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 5:06 AM UTC

Really nice build, The i5-4460 is definitely a bang for the buck processor, The R9 280 will do just great fro any game, at medium-high settings and honestly really good build, nice parts b0ss :)

(As for AMD Processors, they're still really good, I just hate how AMD lied about the 390X and The Fury X, they still fall behind far from the top tier Titan X and 980 Ti)
It turned out a little bit more expensive but I added the i5 processor as you both agreed it was better
 and  I changed the motherboard due to compatibility with the processor 
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Hudmister14/saved/#view=wGmH99
Thank you both so much for the advice I have one final question however,
Do I need a CPU cooler? I know its not necessary but is it worth getting?
Cheers,
Hudmister14

Hudmister14 June 27, 2015 at 5:06 AM UTC

So, youre not looking for a totally pc, right? Just for the parts?
I'm looking for a partlist to build a decent gaming computer

Loo June 27, 2015 at 5:06 AM UTC

It turned out a little bit more expensive but I added the i5 processor as you both agreed it was better
 and  I changed the motherboard due to compatibility with the processor 
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Hudmister14/saved/#view=wGmH99
Thank you both so much for the advice I have one final question however,
Do I need a CPU cooler? I know its not necessary but is it worth getting?
Cheers,
Hudmister14
It's not necessary at all, unless you want a more silent fan. I strongly suggest you get the video card I recommended as well as the SSD though. The R7 260x is is not nearly as good as the R9 280. Also, the Samsung SSD will save you some money as well as changing to the motherboard I recommended. Everything else looks good though.

I did the same mistake of getting a cheap graphics card in the beginning and I'm starting to regret it. I can't comfortably run the newest games. The R9 280 will last you a few years without needing an upgrade.

Hudmister14 June 28, 2015 at 1:06 AM UTC

It's not necessary at all, unless you want a more silent fan. I strongly suggest you get the video card I recommended as well as the SSD though. The R7 260x is is not nearly as good as the R9 280. Also, the Samsung SSD will save you some money as well as changing to the motherboard I recommended. Everything else looks good though.

I did the same mistake of getting a cheap graphics card in the beginning and I'm starting to regret it. I can't comfortably run the newest games. The R9 280 will last you a few years without needing an upgrade.
ok will do thx for the advice hope to see you online cheers
Hudmister14

Loo June 28, 2015 at 1:06 AM UTC

ok will do thx for the advice hope to see you online cheers
Hudmister14
You're welcome, ask any questions if you're not sure. Cheers.

Chief_Hacks June 28, 2015 at 6:06 AM UTC

You're welcome, ask any questions if you're not sure. Cheers.
I have a Dell Optiplex 790. From what I understand, Dell custom build their parts so that replacing them is a struggle. Is there any way I could upgrade it or is a whole new computer needed to be bought?

Thanks in advance

Loo June 28, 2015 at 10:06 AM UTC

I have a Dell Optiplex 790. From what I understand, Dell custom build their parts so that replacing them is a struggle. Is there any way I could upgrade it or is a whole new computer needed to be bought?

Thanks in advance
No they don't build their own custom parts. The thing that makes it a struggle to upgrade is the case because it is so slim.

You can definitely upgrade it. Assuming you don't gave a graphics card, you would need to get a new case in order to make it fit.

OriginaI June 28, 2015 at 12:06 PM UTC

Could someone give me a strong $500 or so build please.

Loo June 28, 2015 at 4:06 PM UTC

Could someone give me a strong $500 or so build please.
In US Dollars? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RCtVQ7 

Strong CPU (can upgrade later without changing motherboard). Very good graphics card, will handle most games very well. 4GB of RAM, all you really need but 8GB would be ideal (upgrading is easy, just buy another identical stick and install it).

OriginaI June 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM UTC

In US Dollars? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RCtVQ7 

Strong CPU (can upgrade later without changing motherboard). Very good graphics card, will handle most games very well. 4GB of RAM, all you really need but 8GB would be ideal (upgrading is easy, just buy another identical stick and install it).
Thanks! Approximately how much fps would that give me on mc regularly and with shaders?

Loo June 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM UTC

Thanks! Approximately how much fps would that give me on mc regularly and with shaders?
Maxed out Minecraft would run at about 500 FPS, probably more. Shaders are very demanding but you could easily run them at above 60 FPS.

I found this video, it will give you a very good idea of what yours will look like. Very good in my opinion. Although his CPU is significantly better, GPU matters a lot more so you'll get very close to the same performance. I have the same CPU and a worse graphics card and I get around 200-300 FPS on Avicus with maxed out settings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ioH-MmDp8

_Phyre June 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM UTC

Maxed out Minecraft would run at about 500 FPS, probably more. Shaders are very demanding but you could easily run them at above 60 FPS.

I found this video, it will give you a very good idea of what yours will look like. Very good in my opinion. Although his CPU is significantly better, GPU matters a lot more so you'll get very close to the same performance. I have the same CPU and a worse graphics card and I get around 200-300 FPS on Avicus with maxed out settings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ioH-MmDp8
Pentiums aren't really made for minecraft, Dual-core with No hyperthreading... Pretty bad considering Minecraft is more CPU intensive than GPU (Without shaders)...

Loo June 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM UTC

Pentiums aren't really made for minecraft, Dual-core with No hyperthreading... Pretty bad considering Minecraft is more CPU intensive than GPU (Without shaders)...
That's why I get 300 FPS? Good to know. In all seriousness though,  his budget doesn't allow for much more and he can easily upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future without changing anything else.

He can also overclock it to 4.0GHz on the stock cooler. That's what I did and the temperatures are still fine.

_Phyre June 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM UTC

That's why I get 300 FPS? Good to know. In all seriousness though,  his budget doesn't allow for much more and he can easily upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future without changing anything else.

He can also overclock it to 4.0GHz on the stock cooler. That's what I did and the temperatures are still fine.
Btw,
remember the time when we said the 4790K won't bottleneck 2 980Ti's? 
It will
If a 5820K @ 4.(something) GHz bottlenecks 2 980 Ti's pretty sure the 4790K will (at 1080p at least)
https://youtu.be/CGUO2r8IvU8?t=2m34s

Loo June 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM UTC

Btw,
remember the time when we said the 4790K won't bottleneck 2 980Ti's? 
It will
If a 5820K @ 4.(something) GHz bottlenecks 2 980 Ti's pretty sure the 4790K will (at 1080p at least)
https://youtu.be/CGUO2r8IvU8?t=2m34s
Damn, that's interesting.

OriginaI June 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM UTC

So has the build changed?

Loo June 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM UTC

So has the build changed?
Your build? No.

PokerFace June 28, 2015 at 9:06 PM UTC

Thanks! Approximately how much fps would that give me on mc regularly and with shaders?
You should add Alien on skype, he can help you save even more on that build he gave. He helped me out and can even get you an OS for free. Also, if you buy the parts used, you may be able to save a couple hundred bucks more.

Loo June 28, 2015 at 9:06 PM UTC

You should add Alien on skype, he can help you save even more on that build he gave. He helped me out and can even get you an OS for free. Also, if you buy the parts used, you may be able to save a couple hundred bucks more.
I never even remembered to ask you, did your computer work?

Sevoo June 28, 2015 at 10:06 PM UTC

Maxed out Minecraft would run at about 500 FPS, probably more. Shaders are very demanding but you could easily run them at above 60 FPS.

I found this video, it will give you a very good idea of what yours will look like. Very good in my opinion. Although his CPU is significantly better, GPU matters a lot more so you'll get very close to the same performance. I have the same CPU and a worse graphics card and I get around 200-300 FPS on Avicus with maxed out settings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ioH-MmDp8
Is mine better or worse than that?

Loo June 28, 2015 at 10:06 PM UTC

Is mine better or worse than that?
I forgot about yours, message me on skype?

Chief_Hacks July 16, 2015 at 11:07 PM UTC

I forgot about yours, message me on skype?
Sorry for the bump but is this a good build? I only want a cheap computer that will still handle most games out there right now

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Whittleby/saved/#view=szzxFT

Overfill July 16, 2015 at 11:07 PM UTC

I would say so.

Loo July 17, 2015 at 12:07 AM UTC

Sorry for the bump but is this a good build? I only want a cheap computer that will still handle most games out there right now

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Whittleby/saved/#view=szzxFT
Yes it can hadle most games. You'll have to play around with the settings depending on the game but for the most part you'll get very good FPS.

Chief_Hacks July 17, 2015 at 5:07 AM UTC

Yes it can hadle most games. You'll have to play around with the settings depending on the game but for the most part you'll get very good FPS.
Thanks a lot. You have no idea how much you've helped

Loo July 17, 2015 at 5:07 AM UTC

Thanks a lot. You have no idea how much you've helped
You're welcome, just make sure to get an Operating System. Windows 7/8/8.1 is about $90, Linux is free. 

Edit: Just realized the Windows 10 Insider Preview is no longer available.

Eteh July 17, 2015 at 1:07 PM UTC

Is there a prebuilt PC that is good for running Minecraft and TF2? (Games in general). I might wanna use it for recording too, maybe 8/16GB of RAM? Price range could be $400-$1,000