Full 1.8 Integration! by MidnightBeats December 14, 2015 at 4:12 AM UTC

When will all new features get unlocked?

Very likely, this friday.

1.8 good decision. about time tbh. don't worry about those people that are like awwww 1.7 is gone omg i can't blockhit etc etc. they have to learn to pvp with 1.8 and it's not that hugely different anyway.

Brick did make a good point, as Juanoh said. Whats the difference between Avicus and OCN, 
Like there a little things here and there, but 1.7 was a big thing. Just saying.

Nothing is stopping you to going to OCN...
There is clear proof that most players on avicus (92% (rounded to closest decimal)) that use 1.8.
Having the mix is ruining the experience with apparently..
Just live with 1.8. It gets you better at pvp either way instead of block hitting.

Nothing is stopping you to going to OCN...
There is clear proof that most players on avicus (92% (rounded to closest decimal)) that use 1.8.
Having the mix is ruining the experience with apparently..
Just live with 1.8. It gets you better at pvp either way instead of block hitting.

Well, tbh, Brick made a good point.
Why would people still play Avicus if OCN is 1.8 as well?

It's people's decision whether or not they want to play OCN or Avicus. The versions don't matter OCN used to be 1.7 then they updated to 1.8 and people got used to it. Let Avicus update to 1.8 and people get used to it because we've been waiting a long time for this update.

Ya, I get what you're saying but why play Avicus when OCN has tons of other features and both servers use the same version?

It looks like Avicus is trying to lose the small player base they still have.

It's people's decision whether or not they want to play OCN or Avicus. The versions don't matter OCN used to be 1.7 then they updated to 1.8 and people got used to it. Let Avicus update to 1.8 and people get used to it because we've been waiting a long time for this update.

Pretty much this. There are users who have been playing on 1.8 ever since Avicus made it available, and it feels natural now. Blockhitting is still there, it's just harder to do and the animation is a little wack.

Pretty much this. There are users who have been playing on 1.8 ever since Avicus made it available, and it feels natural now. Blockhitting is still there, it's just harder to do and the animation is a little wack.

As stated somewhere here, we have only limited users to using 1.8 in preparation for upgrading the servers to 1.8. Nothing internally has changed yet, but we plan on that very soon.

Did 1.8 fix blocklag and monlag?

Don't know what you refer to with the latter, but we hope so! We'll find out when we go full 1.8 in the coming week or two and investigate the issue more.

It's not an issue for me, just other users.

It is not a problem for you because you're using the Labby Mod, which I brought to Avicus and then Jahaj stated it isn't allowed and you use it so... you can't say "it doesn't bother me" cause you're using a mod.

Nothing is stopping you to going to OCN...
There is clear proof that most players on avicus (92% (rounded to closest decimal)) that use 1.8.
Having the mix is ruining the experience with apparently..
Just live with 1.8. It gets you better at pvp either way instead of block hitting.

The small minority of humans are suffering from terminal cancer and will most likely die. 
Please, convince people to stop researching for cancer just because the small minority of humans have cancer and there's obviously no point in working towards their fix, the cancer patients should surely just live on without any help being provided to them because they are the small minority. Thet should just live with it (I would go on further but everyone on avicus seems to be fucking sensitive).

You agree on this point then, I used the same logic as you did.

Edit: To everyone else using this bullshit excuse of minority, you're basically just saying "Yeah fuck the 5% of 1.7 players, they're the minority and we shouldn't give a flying fuck about them."

Nonetheless, the 1.7 players were gonna have to learn to fight in newer updates considering it's impossible for us to stay on 1.7 and still stay a good, updating server.

what if people cant run 1.8 but can run 1.7 because i have a friend that has that problem

Nonetheless, the 1.7 players were gonna have to learn to fight in newer updates considering it's impossible for us to stay on 1.7 and still stay a good, updating server.

Because I don't use the damage indicators. Why the hell would I use the mod now anyways? After multiple reasons. Also, you are using the mod, SO LOL LOL LOL

Remember when 1.7 came out, everyone said it was laggy as hell? There are a crap ton of ways of getting more frames, one of which you can do through the MC launcher. If you want the link, just ask. Another way to help your FPS in 1.8 is to toggle "VBOs"

dude i build my own computer i did everything for my friend to help his pc in 1.8 he gets about 20fps and 100% on the cpu and in 1.7 he gets 60fps with 75% on the cpu. 1.8 is  much worse on the cpu you can read more about it
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/optifine-modder-rips-the-minecraft-devs-for-the-code-in-the-newest-ve...
here and
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/2js5j3/the_creator_of_optifine_sp614x_explains_the_18/
here

I get 500 fps on 1.7 and 200 fps on 1.8 lol

i get over 1000fps in 1.7 but only 200-300fps in 1.8 but i have i7 4790k and a gtx 770 but what if you have a bad pc that only gets a 50ish fps in 1.7 and 10-20fps in 1.8 that's the problem

The small minority of humans are suffering from terminal cancer and will most likely die. 
Please, convince people to stop researching for cancer just because the small minority of humans have cancer and there's obviously no point in working towards their fix, the cancer patients should surely just live on without any help being provided to them because they are the small minority. Thet should just live with it (I would go on further but everyone on avicus seems to be fucking sensitive).

You agree on this point then, I used the same logic as you did.

Edit: To everyone else using this bullshit excuse of minority, you're basically just saying "Yeah fuck the 5% of 1.7 players, they're the minority and we shouldn't give a flying fuck about them."

I'm wondering why you're comparing a block game to terminal cancer?
Terminal cancer is a whole different thing where people die if not treated in time.
The 5% of 1.7 players can easily install 1.8.
You can't please everybody, so why still keep the blocklag and all the other lag because the 1.7 players (who are of course 5%,, the huge minority) are complaining.

Like legit you guys can't be happy.
First y'all complain about block lag and how we gotta fix it, the devs pinpointed the area of the lag and made a decision because the vast majority of the server uses the version that will fix the block lag and now you guys complain about how we should go back.

Be happy one problem is solved and learn how to pvp in 1.8 like all the other 95% of the players that play Avicus.
You guys aren't some people that need to have everything they want or cry a giant tantrum about it.

I'm wondering why you're comparing a block game to terminal cancer?
Terminal cancer is a whole different thing where people die if not treated in time.
The 5% of 1.7 players can easily install 1.8.
You can't please everybody, so why still keep the blocklag and all the other lag because the 1.7 players (who are of course 5%,, the huge minority) are complaining.

Like legit you guys can't be happy.
First y'all complain about block lag and how we gotta fix it, the devs pinpointed the area of the lag and made a decision because the vast majority of the server uses the version that will fix the block lag and now you guys complain about how we should go back.

Be happy one problem is solved and learn how to pvp in 1.8 like all the other 95% of the players that play Avicus.
You guys aren't some people that need to have everything they want or cry a giant tantrum about it.

The small minority of humans are suffering from terminal cancer and will most likely die. 
Please, convince people to stop researching for cancer just because the small minority of humans have cancer and there's obviously no point in working towards their fix, the cancer patients should surely just live on without any help being provided to them because they are the small minority. Thet should just live with it (I would go on further but everyone on avicus seems to be fucking sensitive).

You agree on this point then, I used the same logic as you did.

Edit: To everyone else using this bullshit excuse of minority, you're basically just saying "Yeah fuck the 5% of 1.7 players, they're the minority and we shouldn't give a flying fuck about them."

I'm wondering why you're comparing a block game to terminal cancer?
Terminal cancer is a whole different thing where people die if not treated in time.
The 5% of 1.7 players can easily install 1.8.
You can't please everybody, so why still keep the blocklag and all the other lag because the 1.7 players (who are of course 5%,, the huge minority) are complaining.

Like legit you guys can't be happy.
First y'all complain about block lag and how we gotta fix it, the devs pinpointed the area of the lag and made a decision because the vast majority of the server uses the version that will fix the block lag and now you guys complain about how we should go back.

Be happy one problem is solved and learn how to pvp in 1.8 like all the other 95% of the players that play Avicus.
You guys aren't some people that need to have everything they want or cry a giant tantrum about it.

I have realized that 1.8 didn't really make a difference in the lag. I mean wtf?

Get your damn shit together Avicus. I'm tired of this.

Please reeead. Nothing should have changed.

-_-

You realise block lag etc can be fixed so easily on mixed version servers right? Also I find it pretty fucking hilarious how you're like "learn to pvp on 1.8" when I can beat everyone who plays on here with 1 hand behind my back regardless of what version. Updating to 1.8 brought more negatives than positives to avicus, which is the main point. Updating to 1.8 has done absolutely nothing, and what people claim can be done on a full 1.8 server is very possible on mixed servers. Like literally the only thing it has done is make the minority of players unhappy, whilst doing absolutely jack shit to "improve" anything. If you're actually going to sit here and argue that making the server less enjoyable for a few more people, whilst fixing absolutely nothing at all that they updated in tge first place for, is a problem solved then I really don't know what literate thing to say to you.

Ahh...

If in a week or two, I see ANY block lag or anything like that, no more Mister Nice Guy. I'm not kidding, there will be consequences. But, I believe in you. Seriously, this server has SO much potential. I don't care about 1.8 as long as the lag goes away, and it had to happen at some moment. But we were promised a server with no lag.

Ahh...

If in a week or two, I see ANY block lag or anything like that, no more Mister Nice Guy. I'm not kidding, there will be consequences. But, I believe in you. Seriously, this server has SO much potential. I don't care about 1.8 as long as the lag goes away, and it had to happen at some moment. But we were promised a server with no lag.

You realise block lag etc can be fixed so easily on mixed version servers right? Also I find it pretty fucking hilarious how you're like "learn to pvp on 1.8" when I can beat everyone who plays on here with 1 hand behind my back regardless of what version. Updating to 1.8 brought more negatives than positives to avicus, which is the main point. Updating to 1.8 has done absolutely nothing, and what people claim can be done on a full 1.8 server is very possible on mixed servers. Like literally the only thing it has done is make the minority of players unhappy, whilst doing absolutely jack shit to "improve" anything. If you're actually going to sit here and argue that making the server less enjoyable for a few more people, whilst fixing absolutely nothing at all that they updated in tge first place for, is a problem solved then I really don't know what literate thing to say to you.

You realise block lag etc can be fixed so easily on mixed version servers right? Also I find it pretty fucking hilarious how you're like "learn to pvp on 1.8" when I can beat everyone who plays on here with 1 hand behind my back regardless of what version. Updating to 1.8 brought more negatives than positives to avicus, which is the main point. Updating to 1.8 has done absolutely nothing, and what people claim can be done on a full 1.8 server is very possible on mixed servers. Like literally the only thing it has done is make the minority of players unhappy, whilst doing absolutely jack shit to "improve" anything. If you're actually going to sit here and argue that making the server less enjoyable for a few more people, whilst fixing absolutely nothing at all that they updated in tge first place for, is a problem solved then I really don't know what literate thing to say to you.

>But we were promised a server with no lag.
Where did we say that? Things happen.

dude i build my own computer i did everything for my friend to help his pc in 1.8 he gets about 20fps and 100% on the cpu and in 1.7 he gets 60fps with 75% on the cpu. 1.8 is  much worse on the cpu you can read more about it
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/optifine-modder-rips-the-minecraft-devs-for-the-code-in-the-newest-ve...
here and
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/2js5j3/the_creator_of_optifine_sp614x_explains_the_18/
here

I'm sorry, but you cannot deny that. Honestly, just the fact that you staff are arguing to us, while the server still has MAJOR issues is funny. I'd honestly recommend for Kylo to just ask one of the devs at Kohi or something to help him and even pay him if needed. This cannot go on.

I agree with you, what else can I say?
That's what happens with most of the players in here, their computers are not the best and if 1.7 was near the lag line, 1.8 will go through it.

You realise block lag etc can be fixed so easily on mixed version servers right? Also I find it pretty fucking hilarious how you're like "learn to pvp on 1.8" when I can beat everyone who plays on here with 1 hand behind my back regardless of what version. Updating to 1.8 brought more negatives than positives to avicus, which is the main point. Updating to 1.8 has done absolutely nothing, and what people claim can be done on a full 1.8 server is very possible on mixed servers. Like literally the only thing it has done is make the minority of players unhappy, whilst doing absolutely jack shit to "improve" anything. If you're actually going to sit here and argue that making the server less enjoyable for a few more people, whilst fixing absolutely nothing at all that they updated in tge first place for, is a problem solved then I really don't know what literate thing to say to you.

I'm sorry, but you cannot deny that. Honestly, just the fact that you staff are arguing to us, while the server still has MAJOR issues is funny. I'd honestly recommend for Kylo to just ask one of the devs at Kohi or something to help him and even pay him if needed. This cannot go on.

I agree with you, what else can I say?
That's what happens with most of the players in here, their computers are not the best and if 1.7 was near the lag line, 1.8 will go through it.

Remember when 1.7 came out, everyone said it was laggy as hell? There are a crap ton of ways of getting more frames, one of which you can do through the MC launcher. If you want the link, just ask. Another way to help your FPS in 1.8 is to toggle "VBOs"

LINK PLEASE

http://youtu.be/FqtpdRnRMhM

If you think you're SO smart, you should know that it's kinda impossible to make what the 100% of people want, for example, ( Like the terminal cancer example, ) on President or etc elections by votes maybe'h 49% people loose want they wanted 'cause the othe 51% voted for some1 else.
Like I was saying, it's impossible to get the 100% of people want, that's why the biggest percent it's all what you can do, sorry.

Es distinto, porque en una elección presidencial solo hay 2 opciones y obviamente mucha gente va a salir perdiendo porque sale 1 ganador pero acá se puede satisfacer a todos porque es un juego y se pueden incluir las sugerencias de todos en una misma idea.

just gonna comment, a version change shouldnt happen in the middle on a tourney league, should of been in the 2 week break....

anyways glad to see im one of the 5% lmao i think most of PPB's are too.. ruined.

i get over 1000fps in 1.7 but only 200-300fps in 1.8 but i have i7 4790k and a gtx 770 but what if you have a bad pc that only gets a 50ish fps in 1.7 and 10-20fps in 1.8 that's the problem

2 opciones????

Meanwhile ocn is switching to 1.9 (another reason to play avicus)

People would still play OCN over Avicus for comments like yours, plus, when tf did they say they were switching to 1.9? They haven't posted a thing and you're already making up stuff, like, common, stop trying to mend and advertise something that's nearly dead by now.

Let's hope for realism to hit you soon cause the day people pick Avicus over OCN will be the day the giants from Easter Island will wake up.

People would still play OCN over Avicus for comments like yours, plus, when tf did they say they were switching to 1.9? They haven't posted a thing and you're already making up stuff, like, common, stop trying to mend and advertise something that's nearly dead by now.

Let's hope for realism to hit you soon cause the day people pick Avicus over OCN will be the day the giants from Easter Island will wake up.

Change it back already, it's an inferior version and the server is sh*t and buggy with it, let players have the option to use their preferred version. You haven't added anything exiting and new with the version change so you may as well let players play how they want.

8.92% = 1.7
91.08% = 1.8

And this is why we're now fully 1.8

How do you know those are real statistics?

If you think you're SO smart, you should know that it's kinda impossible to make what the 100% of people want, for example, ( Like the terminal cancer example, ) on President or etc elections by votes maybe'h 49% people loose want they wanted 'cause the othe 51% voted for some1 else.
Like I was saying, it's impossible to get the 100% of people want, that's why the biggest percent it's all what you can do, sorry.

En 2nda ronda siempre quedan 2 opciones, no mas.

En 2nda ronda siempre quedan 2 opciones, no mas.

Updating brings more hell a lot more negatives than positives, most of the issues most people were complaining about can be fixed easily on mixed servers, especially with a player base of having a max for 150 players, lol. Avicus went full 1.8 before, and it downgraded about a week later, everyone started complaining and the player-base eventually started declining. Do not blindly walk into something that harmed the server before. Avicus still has a spark, don't kill it. thnx

Tfw Stan could literally fix the issues deemed completely impossible for avicus deemed in 1 day of downtime on a hybrid server smh

How 2 inexperience

Jajaja, Pero cuando especifiqué eso? 
Por ejemplo, en primera ronda hay aproximadamente 4 - 6 candidatos, para que haya segunda ronda ningun candidato puede tener mas de la mitad de los votos, lo cual es muy común. ¿Que pasa con la otra mitad que no gano lo que quería o pensaba "conveniente"? Simplemente tolera la opinión de la mayoría que voto por el otro candidato y afrenta ello, Por algo existe la democracia, Ya que , como había dicho antes, es imposible siempre satisfacer a todo el mundo, Y en este caso, el 5% de Avicus.

Si te entiendo pero aca, en un server de MC, no seria necesario tolerar al que "gano" por mayoria puesto que es un juego, y se puede complacer a todos ya que es posible que se use la 1.7 y la 1.8 pero ellos no lo quieren hacer porque aparentemente "lagearia" el server mas, cosa que es mentira.

80% of 1.8 users are just randoms that just log one time and quit

I'm wondering why you're comparing a block game to terminal cancer?
Terminal cancer is a whole different thing where people die if not treated in time.
The 5% of 1.7 players can easily install 1.8.
You can't please everybody, so why still keep the blocklag and all the other lag because the 1.7 players (who are of course 5%,, the huge minority) are complaining.

Like legit you guys can't be happy.
First y'all complain about block lag and how we gotta fix it, the devs pinpointed the area of the lag and made a decision because the vast majority of the server uses the version that will fix the block lag and now you guys complain about how we should go back.

Be happy one problem is solved and learn how to pvp in 1.8 like all the other 95% of the players that play Avicus.
You guys aren't some people that need to have everything they want or cry a giant tantrum about it.

Updating brings more hell a lot more negatives than positives, most of the issues most people were complaining about can be fixed easily on mixed servers, especially with a player base of having a max for 150 players, lol. Avicus went full 1.8 before, and it downgraded about a week later, everyone started complaining and the player-base eventually started declining. Do not blindly walk into something that harmed the server before. Avicus still has a spark, don't kill it. thnx

I don't know about the rest but 1.7 is the only legit reason I play on Avicus

I think some people are miss interpreting the graph as well. The graph shows what proportion of people that have logged into Avicus are using 1.7/1.8. More of the players that log into Avicus with 1.8 are exploring servers and might not come back, whereas a larger amount of the 1.7 players are regular Avicus players so if you take the proportion of 1.7/1.8 players at any one time, it would probably look a lot different.

Omfg why would anyone even use 1.8....
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Also the kb is f***ed up now

Also that graph is very misleading, I'm sure that a lot more of the Avicus regulars still use 1.7

Just because you don't agree with something, doesn't make it misleading.

Yeah because 70k players obviously regularly play avicus, not misleading at all, you sure showed him!

its more than 5% lol

I cry :(

Tears of joy!

1.9 is soon peeps, keep your heads up! :D

:/

Tears of joy!

1.9 is soon peeps, keep your heads up! :D

:/

Just because you don't agree with something, doesn't make it misleading.

Yes, I must have said that the graph was misleading simply because I don't like the fact that Avicus updated

Solid Analysis bud

No, but seriously, it's because the graph is just 3 numbers, paired with 3 different versions of Minecraft. You don't know when, what, how that data was collected. Which is why it's misleading. And like GoldBrick stated it's definitely not daily player count because Avicus doesn't have 70k players. Which is why anyone saying "only 8% use 1.7, the graph CLEARLY states that" is simply misinformed because the graph itself is obviously not a correct, up-to-date representation of Avicus' daily playerbase.

Now this is gonna make all of us cringe and cry... Not of joy.

Tears of joy!

1.9 is soon peeps, keep your heads up! :D

:/

Kylo, please don't

Tears of joy!

1.9 is soon peeps, keep your heads up! :D

:/

Haha it's bound to happen. The vast majority of users are set to auto update and aren't entirely aware of how versioning works. Once the majority of Minecraft users are on 1.9, we are bound to update! It's inevitable, just like every previous version!

Don't implement all that fancy stuff tho ;-; Poison arrows are gonna kill us all :c In game and literally xD
And shields will destroy any PvP skills there are :|

I'm sure the map developers will do their best to keep the games balanced and fair. It would be awesome to throw in new features where appropriate, like shields in different arcade style games and what not. I'd be super excited as a map developer.

Rip my skill.

What skill? LOL

DONT BE UPSETTI HAVE SOME SPAGHETTI

It could also be interpreted that most players who even joined the server joined with 1.8. Which it shows that more players will come on 1.8 even if they visit.
You gotta be thinking about the future.
We're not gonna be stuck in 1.7 forever and the 1.8 update was bound to happen.

What skill? LOL

What skill? LOL

I'm sure the map developers will do their best to keep the games balanced and fair. It would be awesome to throw in new features where appropriate, like shields in different arcade style games and what not. I'd be super excited as a map developer.

My skill was different than yours, I didn't have the privilege of free anti KB.

When I press tab all the names are white and not the colour of their team. Also when I try to bridge on public, there is a delay between placing blocks. Can you fix these soon please.

I'd like to see Avicus live, sorry :(

Idk if I'm late, but I'd like to do anything I really can to slow the updating of the Minecraft competitive community as a whole.

I'd like to ask: Would you, the administration, be willing to keep the competitive avicus scene 1.7 while the less competitive public scene moves on in versions, at least for the time being and foreseeable future?

Everything is already 1.8 :-:

I figure asking for a reversion now is better than in a few months when development is already far under way and there's no turning back, even if everybody realizes how shit 1.8 is. That's what happened on OCN, and I would rather it didn't happen here if at all avoidable.

Idk if I'm late, but I'd like to do anything I really can to slow the updating of the Minecraft competitive community as a whole.

I'd like to ask: Would you, the administration, be willing to keep the competitive avicus scene 1.7 while the less competitive public scene moves on in versions, at least for the time being and foreseeable future?