1.7 Support Update (and 1.11.2 support)
by
ALM
January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC
UPDATE: We managed to fix the bugs it was causing so 1.7 will be staying for now.
Hello everyone!
I am pleased to announce that we have rolled out support for Minecraft 1.7! This feature is in BETA and we ask you to report any issues to us on our issue tracker.
NOTE: We do not support the custom tablist for 1.7 clients, so do not report this!
Oh, and we also support 1.11.2!
(Shout out to Acceqted for helping me test the initial release)
1.7 to "satisfy" the current players while limit the number of newer players. You're squeezing too many versions into one but not really providing the best gameplay for each versions, the newer versions especially. Not really sure how good of a decision this is
Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. AND SOME MORE FRIGGIN LAG!
Why was this considered a good idea? Who authorized this? Why are you people happy?
Do you not realize that there will be block lag? THE SERVERS WILL COST MORE BECAUSE OF ALL THE PRESSURE ON THEM!
COME ON! *Facepalm*
You haven't even tried it and you're complaining.
It's considered a good idea because it will open up opportunities we need in regards with advertising. It will also allow players who want to play on 1.7 to play.
The servers won't cost more because it won't strain them. We're doing the same thing we did with 1.9,1.10 and 1.11. All that happens is a few files are changed, if the server can't handle that then I'm pretty sure it would be down right now and no one would be playing on it.
It has been tested, it works. I can't force anyone to like or hate the change but at least show some appreciation for the work the developers are doing.
EDIT: If there is lag then we'll do our best to try and limit the impact it has.
It's considered a good idea because it will open up opportunities we need in regards with advertising. It will also allow players who want to play on 1.7 to play.
The servers won't cost more because it won't strain them. We're doing the same thing we did with 1.9,1.10 and 1.11. All that happens is a few files are changed, if the server can't handle that then I'm pretty sure it would be down right now and no one would be playing on it.
It has been tested, it works. I can't force anyone to like or hate the change but at least show some appreciation for the work the developers are doing.
EDIT: If there is lag then we'll do our best to try and limit the impact it has.
Why wasn't this done a long time ago? I remember a certain refusal to revert back to dual support for 1.7 and 1.8. A lot of people have moved on since then....
It's considered a good idea because it will open up opportunities we need in regards with advertising. It will also allow players who want to play on 1.7 to play.
The servers won't cost more because it won't strain them. We're doing the same thing we did with 1.9,1.10 and 1.11. All that happens is a few files are changed, if the server can't handle that then I'm pretty sure it would be down right now and no one would be playing on it.
It has been tested, it works. I can't force anyone to like or hate the change but at least show some appreciation for the work the developers are doing.
EDIT: If there is lag then we'll do our best to try and limit the impact it has.
1.7 to "satisfy" the current players while limit the number of newer players. You're squeezing too many versions into one but not really providing the best gameplay for each versions, the newer versions especially. Not really sure how good of a decision this is
Why wasn't this done a long time ago? I remember a certain refusal to revert back to dual support for 1.7 and 1.8. A lot of people have moved on since then....
I honestly don't know, I was told it wasn't possible at all. I woke up and saw the commit and was shocked as everyone else. We've been trying to have it added for a long time now but it wasn't on the basis that it would be too hard to do, so obviously the developers found an easier way to do it and have done so.
Pretty sure the reason we didn't want to was because more than 90% of the playerbase used 1.8 so at that point they didn't want to, not 100% sure on that though as I wasn't in the Senior Team at that point.
Just to add on to what was said earlier. 1.7 is there for opening up advertisement opportunities but also it's there for people who want to use it. If you want to use it, well now you can, if not then just continue to use 1.8. Majority of us will still use 1.8, which is fine.
If there is lag that is being caused by this change then we'll try to fix it. If it's just the same old lag spikes that have been happening for months now then that's a completely different story all together.
This is a great step in the right direction imo, now what is left is to correctly advertise the server.
for those complaining about the lag, maybe it would be cool to have some version-specific servers, so they are "less laggy" and can also use features from newer versions.
i'll try this by myself once i'm back home, gj ALM boiii
Emmm, I smell regress.... So, what happens with 1.8 blocks, if i join with 1.7? Why don't they disappear? Was it really needed?
Nothing has changed except 1.7 clients can join. Same thing goes when you're in 1.9 or 1.10 and playing on here.
From an advertisement point of view I think it is needed. If we were relying on it to just bring new players then I'm not sure. But it's been done for more than one reason so I do think so.
Theres no point in this tbh thanks for the work devs but 1.8 was fine since we've had to get used to it for the past like year-6 months idk and surely now 1.8 blocks cant be used
A lot from a competitive community. Anyways, it's just a 1.7 client support.
"a" competitive community being which one? I don't mind clearly its going to help; however, I doubt that this is of pressing importance if the gameplay isn't really good. I can't speak as I don't play here enough but I presume the quality of gameplay has not improved.
Why are you supporting a really outdated version when everyone has moved on and not really focusing on more important stuff like sorting out gamemodes and rots
WHAT POSSIBLE REASON DO PEOPLE HAVE FOR USING 1.7??
Some people prefer it. I personally have gotten used to 1.8 and I don't care for 1.7 too much, but I'm still going to use it for certain mods. There are a few different mods that I love but they are only 1.7.x. Now I can use them on Avicus. It just adds the option for more people who like 1.7 to join.
"a" competitive community being which one? I don't mind clearly its going to help; however, I doubt that this is of pressing importance if the gameplay isn't really good. I can't speak as I don't play here enough but I presume the quality of gameplay has not improved.
Some people prefer it. I personally have gotten used to 1.8 and I don't care for 1.7 too much, but I'm still going to use it for certain mods. There are a few different mods that I love but they are only 1.7.x. Now I can use them on Avicus. It just adds the option for more people who like 1.7 to join.
what exactly are these mods people need 1.7 on avicus for?
what exactly are these mods people need 1.7 on avicus for?
I can't list every single one.. xD I just mean that there are some mods that weren't updated past 1.7.x for whatever reason. As well as the fact the some people just prefer 1.7. Why not give them the option to play in 1.7? It's also good for advertising.
I can't list every single one.. xD I just mean that there are some mods that weren't updated past 1.7.x for whatever reason. As well as the fact the some people just prefer 1.7. Why not give them the option to play in 1.7? It's also good for advertising.
because there are very few players who prefer it and it creates more server lag and possibly other problems
I can't list every single one.. xD I just mean that there are some mods that weren't updated past 1.7.x for whatever reason. As well as the fact the some people just prefer 1.7. Why not give them the option to play in 1.7? It's also good for advertising.
i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus. plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?
i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus. plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?
i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus
No no. xdd I meant things like GUI mods, or maybe if you liked a specific toggle sprint in 1.7. Things like that.
plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?
I'm not the one to ask for this. I know it will help but I can't give you specific reasons. I bet Posighdun can help. ;)
i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus
No no. xdd I meant things like GUI mods, or maybe if you liked a specific toggle sprint in 1.7. Things like that.
plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?
I'm not the one to ask for this. I know it will help but I can't give you specific reasons. I bet Posighdun can help. ;)
"advertising" probably just means that they can now add the 1.7 tag to any server posts, snag some of those delicious people looking for servers to play 1.7 modpacks on
Secondly, you're the deluded one. You don't realize that with all these versions and their data clogging the databanks that there won't be any lag?
Please, stop deluding yourself.
Anyway, we've done this in the past with more than one versions and it didn't work out too well. You yourself were one of the more vocal people on this issue.
Why do you advocate for it now when you're just gonna bitch about it later?
Secondly, you're the deluded one. You don't realize that with all these versions and their data clogging the databanks that there won't be any lag?
Please, stop deluding yourself.
Anyway, we've done this in the past with more than one versions and it didn't work out too well. You yourself were one of the more vocal people on this issue.
Why do you advocate for it now when you're just gonna bitch about it later?
The server has been running with multiple versions for a long time already
The server has been running with multiple versions for a long time already
Of course, but adding a version as divergent as 1.7 will be taxing.
Versions 1.9, 1.10 and 1.11 don't have much differences from eachother so the server can get away with it.
But something as far back as 1.7 could spell some complications. 1.8 and 1.7 were also different from one another in terms of server performance and blocks that people said that 1.7 was better and got much different performances between each.
So yes, adding another version would be bad.
If there wasn't such a problem with these things, don't you think we would use ALL minecraft versions?
Of course, but adding a version as divergent as 1.7 will be taxing.
Versions 1.9, 1.10 and 1.11 don't have much differences from eachother so the server can get away with it.
But something as far back as 1.7 could spell some complications. 1.8 and 1.7 were also different from one another in terms of server performance and blocks that people said that 1.7 was better and got much different performances between each.
So yes, adding another version would be bad.
If there wasn't such a problem with these things, don't you think we would use ALL minecraft versions?
Be aware that comments with a vote on this thread will be ignored in favor of the poll. The poll will close at noon tomorrow, and a decision will be made based off of this and this alone.
I don't know where is the problem on adding a new version I would say that it's even worst having 1.10 and 1.11 on the server, 1.7 it's grate for pvp it's less laggy ( fps ) and its even better. Let's say u have a faction on an HCF Server ( 1.7.x obs) and u die and u want to go to avicus but O SHIT U HAVE TO CHANGE UR VERSION but then u remember that avicus is supporting 1.7 so u don't close it. See how practical it is??
Why? The strawpoll showed a 10% higher margin of people that wanted to keep 1.7 You said the strawpoll alone would decide the outcome but it seems like you just disregarded it.
Why? The strawpoll showed a 10% higher margin of people that wanted to keep 1.7 You said the strawpoll alone would decide the outcome but it seems like you just disregarded it.
Secondly, you're the deluded one. You don't realize that with all these versions and their data clogging the databanks that there won't be any lag?
Please, stop deluding yourself.
Anyway, we've done this in the past with more than one versions and it didn't work out too well. You yourself were one of the more vocal people on this issue.
Why do you advocate for it now when you're just gonna bitch about it later?
Because I'm not going to bitch about it later.
You're literally so fucking funny to bait it's hilarious. There's no lag for me and I'm EU. I don't know if you're genuinely unintelligent or just trolling at this point tbh. Atlas worked out well didn't it? sik player count boss
Every big pvp server other than OCN is 1.7, and what a surprise, OCN lost a lot of players after 1.7 support ended.
If you have something to say regarding the sudden closure of 1.7 support, please contructively state it. Otherwise, don't say anything please or consider it as useless.
If you were going to count "I don't care" as a yes then why was it even added as an option? You already have Yes as an option. Even though the 3rd option shouldn't even be there considering if you don't care then you wouldn't be voting in the first place, using it for yes instead of leaving it as it's own opinion isn't fair to the 1st option whichgot the most votes, it's a separate option and should be kept as a separate option. The way you did it, without telling anyone beforehand as well, is literally giving the 2nd option the benefit, and if you wanted to do that even if it makes no sense to myself, a warning should have been given in advance or it should have been said when posting the link.
If you were going to count "I don't care" as a yes then why was it even added as an option? You already have Yes as an option. Even though the 3rd option shouldn't even be there considering if you don't care then you wouldn't be voting in the first place, using it for yes instead of leaving it as it's own opinion isn't fair to the 1st option whichgot the most votes, it's a separate option and should be kept as a separate option. The way you did it, without telling anyone beforehand as well, is literally giving the 2nd option the benefit, and if you wanted to do that even if it makes no sense to myself, a warning should have been given in advance or it should have been said when posting the link.
X2 give this man a razer blackwidow chroma and a cookie
Even though I am one of the people who wanted it to be dropped, why even add "I could care less" as an option if you were just gonna count it as a yes?
You're literally so fucking funny to bait it's hilarious. There's no lag for me and I'm EU. I don't know if you're genuinely unintelligent or just trolling at this point tbh. Atlas worked out well didn't it? sik player count boss
Every big pvp server other than OCN is 1.7, and what a surprise, OCN lost a lot of players after 1.7 support ended.
Who's baited?
I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.
Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.
It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.
Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.
I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.
Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.
It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.
Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.
This isn't about YOU this is about EVERYONE.
Literally over half the competitive community didn't want atlas to come out or wanted the server to update to 1.8.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12205871/r There you go, not just me who voted there. Funny how you try to come off as intelligent but literally come off as smart as one of the humans who fucked monkeys to get aids. I can tell you're stupid just because you're so 1 sided about everything (or you're trolling in which case u got me), you literally don't know shit as seen in your 3rd paragraph. I refuse to believe someone can actually be as fucking dense as you are.
Literally over half the competitive community didn't want atlas to come out or wanted the server to update to 1.8.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12205871/r There you go, not just me who voted there. Funny how you try to come off as intelligent but literally come off as smart as one of the humans who fucked monkeys to get aids. I can tell you're stupid just because you're so 1 sided about everything (or you're trolling in which case u got me), you literally don't know shit as seen in your 3rd paragraph. I refuse to believe someone can actually be as fucking dense as you are.
I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.
Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.
It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.
Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.
Literally over half the competitive community didn't want atlas to come out or wanted the server to update to 1.8.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12205871/r There you go, not just me who voted there. Funny how you try to come off as intelligent but literally come off as smart as one of the humans who fucked monkeys to get aids. I can tell you're stupid just because you're so 1 sided about everything (or you're trolling in which case u got me), you literally don't know shit as seen in your 3rd paragraph. I refuse to believe someone can actually be as fucking dense as you are.
the deployment of atlas was extremely shoddy and for like the first month it was hella buggy and laggy and the scrim servers were gone for the longest time. all of the atlas-related issues are what caused the current playercount crisis because of the amount of people that stopped playing around then.
Im really happy that avicus is going back to 1.7 in the near future this will really bring its competitive community back to life not to mention the increase in player count (i think). Also i dont have to change clients everytime i go to pot pvp servers and go to avicus :)
I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.
Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.
It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.
Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.
This isn't about YOU this is about EVERYONE.
Stubborn, narrow/close-minded to a point I didn't think was even possible
Stubborn, narrow/close-minded to a point I didn't think was even possible
Always thinks he's right
Extremely argumentative and immature
Extremely dense
Wonders why he can't get a rank
The War on Zintenka's Character (RESPONSE!)
---- Argumentativeness
First off, I don't know how you got that much info out of me from me RESPONDING BACK to someone who INITIATED THE ARGUMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
So with that said, you can scratch off argumentative because I don't actively search for arguments. GoldBrick just looks for my trouble and many other people can vouch for me because they've witnessed it so you can just sit down. ---- Narrow-mindedness
To your point of me being narrow-minded, you are absolutely wrong. So... so... so wrong. People I've debated in the past will agree that I'm actually a compromising person who will listen to your point of view and take it into consideration - provided that your argument has substantial reasoning and facts to back it up. ------------ Immaturity
Immature... yeah you got me there. But I highly doubt that you're more mature than me. I had no problems with you whatsoever and even though I did not even START the argument you attacked my character and did it so poorly and incorrectly that I chuckle. So with these facts considered: - Attacks guy who was called delusional. - Attacks his character in an incorrect manner. - Says an immature and smarmy comment at the end.
YOU, are the immature one my friend. ----- His density! Oh god look at those love handles, CHRIST!
You can probably tell that I'm not taking your comment seriously by now because, simply put, you're wrong. I am not that dense and I'm actually a very well educated person as you can see from my vocabulary and my reasoning. For instance, when I see a rule that makes no sense I don't make spammy posts that just clutter the forum. I don't immediately strike down someone just for disagreeing me and I'm actually a curious person. I want to know why people think the way they do. ---- His Failed Ambition! Such a failed conqueror! I have no defense on this one. I've held stations before that I wish that I did better in or should've ignored people on. (See that fellow you're defending? I partially blame him for the chaos in 2014 which led to my demotion from Jr. Mod.) Now, my first demotion from mod was because I didn't ignore trolls. I was harassed for a period of a week and was promptly banned from my ranks by higher-ups who just didn't care. I was harassed ingame by people who said "Hey Zintenka, would you marry an autistic woman?" Or like: "What's your favorite Hentai?" not to mention that when they were doing this I threatened to kick them off the server because I was a Jr. Mod and I was merely doing MY JOB. They tried and failed to frame me for threatening them with DDOS. After this, I was swiftly demoted. No communication whatsoever and I still hold some resentment for the people that demoted me at that time but I'm a forgiving person. I just never forget. You don't know me and you probably never will. So, before you try to spread me open like a Canvas... make sure that you got the right tools first, kiddo.
And some protective gear as well. Lots of layers and special armoring techniques. Those materials better be made of Mythril or Adamantium too!
First off, I don't know how you got that much info out of me from me RESPONDING BACK to someone who INITIATED THE ARGUMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
So with that said, you can scratch off argumentative because I don't actively search for arguments. GoldBrick just looks for my trouble and many other people can vouch for me because they've witnessed it so you can just sit down. ---- Narrow-mindedness
To your point of me being narrow-minded, you are absolutely wrong. So... so... so wrong. People I've debated in the past will agree that I'm actually a compromising person who will listen to your point of view and take it into consideration - provided that your argument has substantial reasoning and facts to back it up. ------------ Immaturity
Immature... yeah you got me there. But I highly doubt that you're more mature than me. I had no problems with you whatsoever and even though I did not even START the argument you attacked my character and did it so poorly and incorrectly that I chuckle. So with these facts considered: - Attacks guy who was called delusional. - Attacks his character in an incorrect manner. - Says an immature and smarmy comment at the end.
YOU, are the immature one my friend. ----- His density! Oh god look at those love handles, CHRIST!
You can probably tell that I'm not taking your comment seriously by now because, simply put, you're wrong. I am not that dense and I'm actually a very well educated person as you can see from my vocabulary and my reasoning. For instance, when I see a rule that makes no sense I don't make spammy posts that just clutter the forum. I don't immediately strike down someone just for disagreeing me and I'm actually a curious person. I want to know why people think the way they do. ---- His Failed Ambition! Such a failed conqueror! I have no defense on this one. I've held stations before that I wish that I did better in or should've ignored people on. (See that fellow you're defending? I partially blame him for the chaos in 2014 which led to my demotion from Jr. Mod.) Now, my first demotion from mod was because I didn't ignore trolls. I was harassed for a period of a week and was promptly banned from my ranks by higher-ups who just didn't care. I was harassed ingame by people who said "Hey Zintenka, would you marry an autistic woman?" Or like: "What's your favorite Hentai?" not to mention that when they were doing this I threatened to kick them off the server because I was a Jr. Mod and I was merely doing MY JOB. They tried and failed to frame me for threatening them with DDOS. After this, I was swiftly demoted. No communication whatsoever and I still hold some resentment for the people that demoted me at that time but I'm a forgiving person. I just never forget. You don't know me and you probably never will. So, before you try to spread me open like a Canvas... make sure that you got the right tools first, kiddo.
And some protective gear as well. Lots of layers and special armoring techniques. Those materials better be made of Mythril or Adamantium too!
I unlocked this to give an update. I'm going to relock it though because this post has essentially turned into a flame thread.
I apologise for the mixed messages that have been going on. There was some miscommunication between the Developers and the Admins. We managed to fix 1.7 so that you are able to play 1.8 maps, 1.8 items are just substituted out for 1.7 ones, so 1.7 will not be removed for the time being. Once again I do apologise.
The only real issue is you can't play CTF if you are in 1.7. So if you want to play CTF, you need to be in 1.8.x and over.
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