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1.7 Support Update (and 1.11.2 support) by ALM January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

UPDATE: We managed to fix the bugs it was causing so 1.7 will be staying for now.



Hello everyone!

I am pleased to announce that we have rolled out support for Minecraft 1.7! This feature is in BETA and we ask you to report any issues to us on our issue tracker.

NOTE: We do not support the custom tablist for 1.7 clients, so do not report this!

Oh, and we also support 1.11.2!

(Shout out to Acceqted for helping me test the initial release)

Thanks, 
ALM

Acceqted January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

FIRST

Okiba January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

oh MY GOD
josh you ninja'd me :(

Goodnighht January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

Woah what. This is nice. I never expected that... Wow um, thanks ALM! <3 I'm mostly in shock right now.

Myworld6 January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

Too little, too late.

shadowolfyt January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

Hype

Crazy_ January 25, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

Neat.

ProfessorUtonium January 25, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

woah there


edit:

RIP 1.8 BLOCKS?

Walt January 25, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

thought I would more hyped about it being 1.7 but nope i dont leik it!

Spartemex January 25, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

Wow this is cool!

KojaCola January 25, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

coolio

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

looks like there's plenty of enthusiasm from the staff about this...

dev_revs January 25, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

scrim servers still broken

kycrafft January 25, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

But why?

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

Hype

yummys January 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

That's cool and thanks! I mostly use 1.8 but good for the 1.7 users!

keller183 January 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

I would be more excited about this if it was years ago when I played 1.7 xd but it's pretty cool

ElementalAssasin January 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

now i need 5zig to work...

TheColdCrafter January 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

Nah, no. All this is gonna do is cause lag.

kycrafft January 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

Nah, no. All this is gonna do is cause lag.
I can't leave spawn anymore because I keep getting lagged back.

DaFrozenBlaze January 25, 2017 at 2:01 AM UTC

1.7 to "satisfy" the current players while limit the number of newer players. You're squeezing too many versions into one but not really providing the best gameplay for each versions, the newer versions especially.
Not really sure how good of a decision this is
Not like it matters much anyway

Diabolicx January 25, 2017 at 3:01 AM UTC

Daaamn

Good job

Sevoo January 25, 2017 at 4:01 AM UTC

https://www.google.ca/search?q=it%27s+already+dead+meme&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTyZbZt...

can someone direct me to the forum post that tells me how to insert images

kycrafft January 25, 2017 at 4:01 AM UTC

https://www.google.ca/search?q=it%27s+already+dead+meme&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTyZbZt...

can someone direct me to the forum post that tells me how to insert images
  1. Press the insert image button
  2. copy and paste the image url 
  3. add on .jpg or .png or .gif to the end, whatever matches the picture
  4. give kycrafft mod for being helpful on the forums

Zintenka January 25, 2017 at 4:01 AM UTC

Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. AND SOME MORE FRIGGIN LAG!

Why was this considered a good idea? Who authorized this? Why are you people happy?

Do you not realize that there will be block lag? THE SERVERS WILL COST MORE BECAUSE OF ALL THE PRESSURE ON THEM!

COME ON! *Facepalm*

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. AND SOME MORE FRIGGIN LAG!

Why was this considered a good idea? Who authorized this? Why are you people happy?

Do you not realize that there will be block lag? THE SERVERS WILL COST MORE BECAUSE OF ALL THE PRESSURE ON THEM!

COME ON! *Facepalm*
You haven't even tried it and you're complaining. 

It's considered a good idea because it will open up opportunities we need in regards with advertising. It will also allow players who want to play on 1.7 to play.

The servers won't cost more because it won't strain them. We're doing the same thing we did with 1.9,1.10 and 1.11. All that happens is a few files are changed, if the server can't handle that then I'm pretty sure it would be down right now and no one would be playing on it.

It has been tested, it works. I can't force anyone to like or hate the change but at least show some appreciation for the work the developers are doing.

EDIT: If there is lag then we'll do our best to try and limit the impact it has.

kycrafft January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

You haven't even tried it and you're complaining. 

It's considered a good idea because it will open up opportunities we need in regards with advertising. It will also allow players who want to play on 1.7 to play.

The servers won't cost more because it won't strain them. We're doing the same thing we did with 1.9,1.10 and 1.11. All that happens is a few files are changed, if the server can't handle that then I'm pretty sure it would be down right now and no one would be playing on it.

It has been tested, it works. I can't force anyone to like or hate the change but at least show some appreciation for the work the developers are doing.

EDIT: If there is lag then we'll do our best to try and limit the impact it has.
Why wasn't this done a long time ago? I remember a certain refusal to revert back to dual support for 1.7 and 1.8. A lot of people have moved on since then....

lgmatias January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

You haven't even tried it and you're complaining. 

It's considered a good idea because it will open up opportunities we need in regards with advertising. It will also allow players who want to play on 1.7 to play.

The servers won't cost more because it won't strain them. We're doing the same thing we did with 1.9,1.10 and 1.11. All that happens is a few files are changed, if the server can't handle that then I'm pretty sure it would be down right now and no one would be playing on it.

It has been tested, it works. I can't force anyone to like or hate the change but at least show some appreciation for the work the developers are doing.

EDIT: If there is lag then we'll do our best to try and limit the impact it has.
thank you so mucho

flyofff January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

1.7 to "satisfy" the current players while limit the number of newer players. You're squeezing too many versions into one but not really providing the best gameplay for each versions, the newer versions especially.
Not really sure how good of a decision this is
Not like it matters much anyway
+1

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

Why wasn't this done a long time ago? I remember a certain refusal to revert back to dual support for 1.7 and 1.8. A lot of people have moved on since then....
I honestly don't know, I was told it wasn't possible at all. I woke up and saw the commit and was shocked as everyone else. We've been trying to have it added for a long time now but it wasn't on the basis that it would be too hard to do, so obviously the developers found an easier way to do it and have done so.

Pretty sure the reason we didn't want to was because more than 90% of the playerbase used 1.8 so at that point they didn't want to, not 100% sure on that though as I wasn't in the Senior Team at that point.

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

thank you so mucho
Thank  ALM

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

Just to add on to what was said earlier. 1.7 is there for opening up advertisement opportunities but also it's there for people who want to use it. If you want to use it, well now you can, if not then just continue to use 1.8. Majority of us will still use 1.8, which is fine. 

If there is lag that is being caused by this change then we'll try to fix it. If it's just the same old lag spikes that have been happening for months now then that's a completely different story all together.

Junr January 25, 2017 at 5:01 AM UTC

DaGoldBrick

felipu_feliu January 25, 2017 at 6:01 AM UTC

This is a great step in the right direction imo, now what is left is to correctly advertise the server.

for those complaining about the lag, maybe it would be cool to have some version-specific servers, so they are "less laggy" and can also use features from newer versions.

i'll try this by myself once i'm back home, gj ALM boiii

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 6:01 AM UTC

so why are people still using 1.7 anyhow

cellish January 25, 2017 at 6:01 AM UTC

YAYAYYYYYY

Crimson_Aught January 25, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

Emmm, I smell regress....
So, what happens with 1.8 blocks, if i join with 1.7? Why don't they disappear?
Was it really needed?

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

Emmm, I smell regress....
So, what happens with 1.8 blocks, if i join with 1.7? Why don't they disappear?
Was it really needed?
Nothing has changed except 1.7 clients can join. Same thing goes when you're in 1.9 or 1.10 and playing on here.

From an advertisement point of view I think it is needed. If we were relying on it to just bring new players then I'm not sure. But it's been done for more than one reason so I do think so.

Legoche January 25, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

So what happens to ctf?

and to half the maps with 1.8 blocks?

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

So what happens to ctf?

and to half the maps with 1.8 blocks?
"Nothing has changed except 1.7 clients can join."

Legoche January 25, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

"Nothing has changed except 1.7 clients can join."
Well how does that work?
they will crash when ctf is loaded?

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

Well how does that work?
they will crash when ctf is loaded?
I'm not entirely sure how they've set it up/how it works. We're kind of relying on everyone to help us provide feedback, since it is beta after all.

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

Well how does that work?
they will crash when ctf is loaded?
in theory it is possible, i know of one plugin that puts 1.8 blocks into 1.7
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/carbon.1258/

ImRaging January 25, 2017 at 8:01 AM UTC

Theres no point in this tbh thanks for the work devs but 1.8 was fine since we've had to get used to it for the past like year-6 months idk and surely now 1.8 blocks cant be used

TooSweetSki January 25, 2017 at 9:01 AM UTC

That's great and all, but unless we advertise the fuck out of this in the coming weeks, all this work would be for nothing.
So go go go!

Sweedie January 25, 2017 at 12:01 PM UTC

So is it 1.7 pvp now?

It was so long ago I played 1.7 o.O

Posighdun January 25, 2017 at 1:01 PM UTC

So is it 1.7 pvp now?

It was so long ago I played 1.7 o.O
It's still 1.8 pvp

hasl January 25, 2017 at 1:01 PM UTC

It's good and all, but most of us have accepted 1.8

If this prevents the new, confirmed competitive gamemodes (Tourney 5), then this is halting or even damaging the remaining player base

Competitive events are known to bring players and the keep the server alive, so fixing scrim servers must be a priority

AvicusNetwork January 25, 2017 at 1:01 PM UTC

Neato

TheColdCrafter January 25, 2017 at 1:01 PM UTC

It's still 1.8 pvp
whats the point then

Sweedie January 25, 2017 at 1:01 PM UTC

It's still 1.8 pvp
ok

Dyeh January 25, 2017 at 1:01 PM UTC

HYPE

lactify January 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM UTC

See the thing is, most of us will have got used to 1.8 style now. I will still try it, thank you! Hypeee

DaGoldBrick January 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM UTC

Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. Lag. AND SOME MORE FRIGGIN LAG!

Why was this considered a good idea? Who authorized this? Why are you people happy?

Do you not realize that there will be block lag? THE SERVERS WILL COST MORE BECAUSE OF ALL THE PRESSURE ON THEM!

COME ON! *Facepalm*
How fucking delusional are you?

AlvaroMorata January 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM UTC

How fucking delusional are you?
on a scale from 1-10, hes around 11.4

Phjilip January 25, 2017 at 2:01 PM UTC

neato

imryaan January 25, 2017 at 3:01 PM UTC

lollll rest in peace a lot of maps

ogel January 25, 2017 at 5:01 PM UTC

when are we getting 1.6? its the best version for pvp...

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 5:01 PM UTC

when are we getting 1.6? its the best version for pvp...
surely you mean 1.2.5, right?

Passively January 25, 2017 at 5:01 PM UTC

when are we getting 1.6? its the best version for pvp...
I think Developers are still working on 1.5 update.

Xuph January 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC

The kb is quite cancer tbh, but other than that, good decision.

Iron January 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC

people still play 1.7 wtf

JDKL January 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC

people still play 1.7 wtf
A lot from a competitive community. Anyways, it's just a 1.7 client support.

Iron January 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC

A lot from a competitive community. Anyways, it's just a 1.7 client support.
"a" competitive community being which one? I don't mind clearly its going to help; however, I doubt that this is of pressing importance if the gameplay isn't really good. I can't speak as I don't play here enough but I presume the quality of gameplay has not improved.

Myv January 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC

Why are you supporting a really outdated version when everyone has moved on and not really focusing on more important stuff like sorting out gamemodes and rots

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 6:01 PM UTC

WHAT POSSIBLE REASON DO PEOPLE HAVE FOR USING 1.7??

Goodnighht January 25, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

WHAT POSSIBLE REASON DO PEOPLE HAVE FOR USING 1.7??
Some people prefer it. I personally have gotten used to 1.8 and I don't care for 1.7 too much, but I'm still going to use it for certain mods. There are a few different mods that I love but they are only 1.7.x. Now I can use them on Avicus. It just adds the option for more people who like 1.7 to join.

JDKL January 25, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

"a" competitive community being which one? I don't mind clearly its going to help; however, I doubt that this is of pressing importance if the gameplay isn't really good. I can't speak as I don't play here enough but I presume the quality of gameplay has not improved.
Not talking about this community at all.

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

Some people prefer it. I personally have gotten used to 1.8 and I don't care for 1.7 too much, but I'm still going to use it for certain mods. There are a few different mods that I love but they are only 1.7.x. Now I can use them on Avicus. It just adds the option for more people who like 1.7 to join.
what exactly are these mods people need 1.7 on avicus for?

Goodnighht January 25, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

what exactly are these mods people need 1.7 on avicus for?
I can't list every single one.. xD I just mean that there are some mods that weren't updated past 1.7.x for whatever reason. As well as the fact the some people just prefer 1.7. Why not give them the option to play in 1.7? It's also good for advertising.

TheColdCrafter January 25, 2017 at 8:01 PM UTC

I can't list every single one.. xD I just mean that there are some mods that weren't updated past 1.7.x for whatever reason. As well as the fact the some people just prefer 1.7. Why not give them the option to play in 1.7? It's also good for advertising.
because there are very few players who prefer it and it creates more server lag and possibly other problems

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

I can't list every single one.. xD I just mean that there are some mods that weren't updated past 1.7.x for whatever reason. As well as the fact the some people just prefer 1.7. Why not give them the option to play in 1.7? It's also good for advertising.
i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus. plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?

Goodnighht January 25, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus. plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?
i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus

No no. xdd I meant things like GUI mods, or maybe if you liked a specific toggle sprint in 1.7. Things like that.


 plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?

I'm not the one to ask for this. I know it will help but I can't give you specific reasons. I bet Posighdun can help. ;)

profbananaslug January 25, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

i was under the impression that most of those were those big gameplay mods that add new blocks and mechanics and shit, not the sort of stuff you'd use on avicus

No no. xdd I meant things like GUI mods, or maybe if you liked a specific toggle sprint in 1.7. Things like that.


 plus, everyone's saying it'll be good for advertising, but can someone explain how?

I'm not the one to ask for this. I know it will help but I can't give you specific reasons. I bet Posighdun can help. ;)
"advertising" probably just means that they can now add the 1.7 tag to any server posts, snag some of those delicious people looking for servers to play 1.7 modpacks on

Okiba January 25, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC

Not talking about this community at all.
probably half of the hcf community and 2 thirds of the 1v1 server community

JDKL January 25, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC

probably half of the hcf community and 2 thirds of the 1v1 server community
80% correct! <3

Zintenka January 26, 2017 at 6:01 AM UTC

How fucking delusional are you?
First off, fuck off.

Secondly, you're the deluded one. You don't realize that with all these versions and their data clogging the databanks that there won't be any lag?

Please, stop deluding yourself.

Anyway, we've done this in the past with more than one versions and it didn't work out too well. You yourself were one of the more vocal people on this issue.

Why do you advocate for it now when you're just gonna bitch about it later?

DaFrozenBlaze January 26, 2017 at 6:01 AM UTC

First off, fuck off.

Secondly, you're the deluded one. You don't realize that with all these versions and their data clogging the databanks that there won't be any lag?

Please, stop deluding yourself.

Anyway, we've done this in the past with more than one versions and it didn't work out too well. You yourself were one of the more vocal people on this issue.

Why do you advocate for it now when you're just gonna bitch about it later?
The server has been running with multiple versions for a long time already

Zintenka January 26, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

The server has been running with multiple versions for a long time already
Of course, but adding a version as divergent as 1.7 will be taxing.

Versions 1.9, 1.10 and 1.11 don't have much differences from eachother so the server can get away with it.

But something as far back as 1.7 could spell some complications. 1.8 and 1.7 were also different from one another in terms of server performance and blocks that people said that 1.7 was better and got much different performances between each.

So yes, adding another version would be bad. 

If there wasn't such a problem with these things, don't you think we would use ALL minecraft versions?

profbananaslug January 26, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

beta 1.7.3 support when?

DaFrozenBlaze January 26, 2017 at 7:01 AM UTC

Of course, but adding a version as divergent as 1.7 will be taxing.

Versions 1.9, 1.10 and 1.11 don't have much differences from eachother so the server can get away with it.

But something as far back as 1.7 could spell some complications. 1.8 and 1.7 were also different from one another in terms of server performance and blocks that people said that 1.7 was better and got much different performances between each.

So yes, adding another version would be bad. 

If there wasn't such a problem with these things, don't you think we would use ALL minecraft versions?
Ok

Crimson_Aught January 26, 2017 at 5:01 PM UTC

beta 1.7.3 support when?
YES, PLEASE

ALM January 27, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

In the spirit of an open democracy, and since there is a clear division in the community about this decision, I have created a poll.

Please vote: http://www.strawpoll.me/12205871/

Be aware that comments with a vote on this thread will be ignored in favor of the poll.
The poll will close at noon tomorrow, and a decision will be made based off of this and this alone.

Thanks,
ALM

Rombeyy January 27, 2017 at 12:01 PM UTC

I don't know where is the problem on adding a new version I would say that it's even worst having 1.10 and 1.11 on the server, 1.7 it's grate for pvp it's less laggy ( fps ) and its even better. Let's say u have a faction on an HCF Server ( 1.7.x obs) and u die and u want to go to avicus but O SHIT U HAVE TO CHANGE UR VERSION but then u remember that avicus is supporting 1.7 so u don't close it.
See how practical it is??

ALM January 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

1.7 support will be ending tonight at 12 CST.

keller183 January 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

1.7 support will be ending tonight at 12 CST.
why tho (will it be added back?)

Okiba January 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

why tho (will it be added back?)
Because literally no one appreciates it.

keller183 January 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

Because literally no one appreciates it.
when 46% of the straw poll is to keep it but they lie and remove it anyway ;(

lgmatias January 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

1.7 support will be ending tonight at 12 CST.
Why? The strawpoll showed a 10% higher margin of people that wanted to keep 1.7 You said the strawpoll alone would decide the outcome but it seems like you just disregarded it.

AtditC January 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

Because literally no one appreciates it.
I would appreciate a prestige system or a nebula shop 1000x more than support for 1.7 which is useless.

ALM January 27, 2017 at 7:01 PM UTC

Why? The strawpoll showed a 10% higher margin of people that wanted to keep 1.7 You said the strawpoll alone would decide the outcome but it seems like you just disregarded it.
We counted "I could care less" as yes

DaGoldBrick January 27, 2017 at 8:01 PM UTC

We counted "I could care less" as yes
yes because that makes sense!

DaGoldBrick January 27, 2017 at 8:01 PM UTC

First off, fuck off.

Secondly, you're the deluded one. You don't realize that with all these versions and their data clogging the databanks that there won't be any lag?

Please, stop deluding yourself.

Anyway, we've done this in the past with more than one versions and it didn't work out too well. You yourself were one of the more vocal people on this issue.

Why do you advocate for it now when you're just gonna bitch about it later?
Because I'm not going to bitch about it later.

You're literally so fucking funny to bait it's hilarious. There's no lag for me and I'm EU. I don't know if you're genuinely unintelligent or just trolling at this point tbh. Atlas worked out well didn't it? sik player count boss

Every big pvp server other than OCN is 1.7, and what a surprise, OCN lost a lot of players after 1.7 support ended.

JDKL January 27, 2017 at 8:01 PM UTC

If you have something to say regarding the sudden closure of 1.7 support, please contructively state it. Otherwise, don't say anything please or consider it as useless.

dev_revs January 27, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

Probably just don't feel like fixing the server lag that came with it tbh

Rombeyy January 27, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

We counted "I could care less" as yes
Wtf? I vote for that and I'm ok like if people want to use it then they can but I'm not saying that I hate it LOL and i think it's good for the adv

keller183 January 27, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

If you were going to count "I don't care" as a yes then why was it even added as an option? You already have Yes as an option. Even though the 3rd option shouldn't even be there considering if you don't care then you wouldn't be voting in the first place, using it for yes instead of leaving it as it's own opinion isn't fair to the 1st option which got the most votes, it's a separate option and should be kept as a separate option. The way you did it, without telling anyone beforehand as well, is literally giving the 2nd option the benefit, and if you wanted to do that even if it makes no sense to myself, a warning should have been given in advance or it should have been said when posting the link.

Rombeyy January 27, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

If you were going to count "I don't care" as a yes then why was it even added as an option? You already have Yes as an option. Even though the 3rd option shouldn't even be there considering if you don't care then you wouldn't be voting in the first place, using it for yes instead of leaving it as it's own opinion isn't fair to the 1st option which got the most votes, it's a separate option and should be kept as a separate option. The way you did it, without telling anyone beforehand as well, is literally giving the 2nd option the benefit, and if you wanted to do that even if it makes no sense to myself, a warning should have been given in advance or it should have been said when posting the link.
X2 give this man a razer blackwidow chroma and a cookie

hasl January 27, 2017 at 9:01 PM UTC

In future strawpolls it'd be better if we didn't have two 'yes' options

Zintenka January 27, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC

Even though I am one of the people who wanted it to be dropped, why even add "I could care less" as an option if you were just gonna count it as a yes?

Literally the most redundant thing ever.

Zintenka January 27, 2017 at 10:01 PM UTC

Because I'm not going to bitch about it later.

You're literally so fucking funny to bait it's hilarious. There's no lag for me and I'm EU. I don't know if you're genuinely unintelligent or just trolling at this point tbh. Atlas worked out well didn't it? sik player count boss

Every big pvp server other than OCN is 1.7, and what a surprise, OCN lost a lot of players after 1.7 support ended.
Who's baited?

I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.

Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.

It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.

Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.

This isn't about YOU this is about EVERYONE. 

DaGoldBrick January 27, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC

Who's baited?

I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.

Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.

It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.

Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.

This isn't about YOU this is about EVERYONE. 
Literally over half the competitive community didn't want atlas to come out or wanted the server to update to 1.8.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12205871/r
There you go, not just me who voted there.
Funny how you try to come off as intelligent but literally come off as smart as one of the humans who fucked monkeys to get aids. I can tell you're stupid just because you're so 1 sided about everything (or you're trolling in which case u got me), you literally don't know shit as seen in your 3rd paragraph. I refuse to believe someone can actually be as fucking dense as you are.

Sem January 27, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC

Literally over half the competitive community didn't want atlas to come out or wanted the server to update to 1.8.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12205871/r
There you go, not just me who voted there.
Funny how you try to come off as intelligent but literally come off as smart as one of the humans who fucked monkeys to get aids. I can tell you're stupid just because you're so 1 sided about everything (or you're trolling in which case u got me), you literally don't know shit as seen in your 3rd paragraph. I refuse to believe someone can actually be as fucking dense as you are.
just accept you are a Solipstic Fruit Cake

profbananaslug January 27, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC

Who's baited?

I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.

Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.

It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.

Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.

This isn't about YOU this is about EVERYONE. 
god forbid you ever get off your high horse

also you spelled "solipsistic" wrong

Kashike January 27, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC

Literally over half the competitive community didn't want atlas to come out or wanted the server to update to 1.8.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12205871/r
There you go, not just me who voted there.
Funny how you try to come off as intelligent but literally come off as smart as one of the humans who fucked monkeys to get aids. I can tell you're stupid just because you're so 1 sided about everything (or you're trolling in which case u got me), you literally don't know shit as seen in your 3rd paragraph. I refuse to believe someone can actually be as fucking dense as you are.
What do people not like about Atlas?

profbananaslug January 27, 2017 at 11:01 PM UTC

What do people not like about Atlas?
the deployment of atlas was extremely shoddy and for like the first month it was hella buggy and laggy and the scrim servers were gone for the longest time. all of the atlas-related issues are what caused the current playercount crisis because of the amount of people that stopped playing around then.

Joulez January 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

Im really happy that avicus is going back to 1.7 in the near future this will really bring its competitive community back to life not to mention the increase in player count (i think). Also i dont have to change clients everytime i go to pot pvp servers and go to avicus :)

Stimulating January 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM UTC

Who's baited?

I never said that Atlas worked out, but what I'm saying is that there will be some complications down the road for when other versions come out and whatnot.

Plus not to mention a lot of mechanics changed between the three versions such as TNT mechanics and many others. All that data will eventually clog the servers and cause things like downtimes and higher price in maintaining servers because of how high-maintenance it is.

It's just an investment that isn't worth it because of how redundant it is, many players have already moved on and Avicus has such a low player count already.

Stop thinking about yourself for once with your edgy teenaged meme-rotted brain you fucking Solipstic Fruit Cake and start thinking about others.

This isn't about YOU this is about EVERYONE. 
Stubborn, narrow/close-minded to a point I didn't think was even possible 

Always thinks he's right 

Extremely argumentative and immature 

Extremely dense 

Wonders why he can't get a rank

Zintenka January 28, 2017 at 8:01 AM UTC

Stubborn, narrow/close-minded to a point I didn't think was even possible 

Always thinks he's right 

Extremely argumentative and immature 

Extremely dense 

Wonders why he can't get a rank
The War on Zintenka's Character (RESPONSE!)

---- Argumentativeness

First off, I don't know how you got that much info out of me from me RESPONDING BACK to someone who INITIATED THE ARGUMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So with that said, you can scratch off argumentative because I don't actively search for arguments. GoldBrick just looks for my trouble and many other people can vouch for me because they've witnessed it so you can just sit down.

---- Narrow-mindedness

To your point of me being narrow-minded, you are absolutely wrong. So... so... so wrong.

People I've debated in the past will agree that I'm actually a compromising person who will listen to your point of view and take it into consideration - provided that your argument has substantial reasoning and facts to back it up.

------------ Immaturity

Immature... yeah you got me there. But I highly doubt that you're more mature than me. I had no problems with you whatsoever and even though I did not even START the argument you attacked my character and did it so poorly and incorrectly that I chuckle.

So with these facts considered:
- Attacks guy who was called delusional.
- Attacks his character in an incorrect manner.
- Says an immature and smarmy comment at the end.

YOU, are the immature one my friend.

----- His density! Oh god look at those love handles, CHRIST!

You can probably tell that I'm not taking your comment seriously by now because, simply put, you're wrong.

I am not that dense and I'm actually a very well educated person as you can see from my vocabulary and my reasoning. For instance, when I see a rule that makes no sense I don't make spammy posts that just clutter the forum.

I don't immediately strike down someone just for disagreeing me and I'm actually a curious person. I want to know why people think the way they do.

---- His Failed Ambition! Such a failed conqueror!

I have no defense on this one. I've held stations before that I wish that I did better in or should've ignored people on. (See that fellow you're defending? I partially blame him for the chaos in 2014 which led to my demotion from Jr. Mod.)

Now, my first demotion from mod was because I didn't ignore trolls. I was harassed for a period of a week and was promptly banned from my ranks by higher-ups who just didn't care. 

I was harassed ingame by people who said "Hey Zintenka, would you marry an autistic woman?"

Or like: "What's your favorite Hentai?" not to mention that when they were doing this I threatened to kick them off the server because I was a Jr. Mod and I was merely doing MY JOB.

They tried and failed to frame me for threatening them with DDOS.

After this, I was swiftly demoted. No communication whatsoever and I still hold some resentment for the people that demoted me at that time but I'm a forgiving person. I just never forget.

You don't know me and you probably never will. So, before you try to spread me open like a Canvas... make sure that you got the right tools first, kiddo.

And some protective gear as well. Lots of layers and special armoring techniques. Those materials better be made of Mythril or Adamantium too!

profbananaslug January 28, 2017 at 8:01 AM UTC

The War on Zintenka's Character (RESPONSE!)

---- Argumentativeness

First off, I don't know how you got that much info out of me from me RESPONDING BACK to someone who INITIATED THE ARGUMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So with that said, you can scratch off argumentative because I don't actively search for arguments. GoldBrick just looks for my trouble and many other people can vouch for me because they've witnessed it so you can just sit down.

---- Narrow-mindedness

To your point of me being narrow-minded, you are absolutely wrong. So... so... so wrong.

People I've debated in the past will agree that I'm actually a compromising person who will listen to your point of view and take it into consideration - provided that your argument has substantial reasoning and facts to back it up.

------------ Immaturity

Immature... yeah you got me there. But I highly doubt that you're more mature than me. I had no problems with you whatsoever and even though I did not even START the argument you attacked my character and did it so poorly and incorrectly that I chuckle.

So with these facts considered:
- Attacks guy who was called delusional.
- Attacks his character in an incorrect manner.
- Says an immature and smarmy comment at the end.

YOU, are the immature one my friend.

----- His density! Oh god look at those love handles, CHRIST!

You can probably tell that I'm not taking your comment seriously by now because, simply put, you're wrong.

I am not that dense and I'm actually a very well educated person as you can see from my vocabulary and my reasoning. For instance, when I see a rule that makes no sense I don't make spammy posts that just clutter the forum.

I don't immediately strike down someone just for disagreeing me and I'm actually a curious person. I want to know why people think the way they do.

---- His Failed Ambition! Such a failed conqueror!

I have no defense on this one. I've held stations before that I wish that I did better in or should've ignored people on. (See that fellow you're defending? I partially blame him for the chaos in 2014 which led to my demotion from Jr. Mod.)

Now, my first demotion from mod was because I didn't ignore trolls. I was harassed for a period of a week and was promptly banned from my ranks by higher-ups who just didn't care. 

I was harassed ingame by people who said "Hey Zintenka, would you marry an autistic woman?"

Or like: "What's your favorite Hentai?" not to mention that when they were doing this I threatened to kick them off the server because I was a Jr. Mod and I was merely doing MY JOB.

They tried and failed to frame me for threatening them with DDOS.

After this, I was swiftly demoted. No communication whatsoever and I still hold some resentment for the people that demoted me at that time but I'm a forgiving person. I just never forget.

You don't know me and you probably never will. So, before you try to spread me open like a Canvas... make sure that you got the right tools first, kiddo.

And some protective gear as well. Lots of layers and special armoring techniques. Those materials better be made of Mythril or Adamantium too!

wtf the fuck

Zintenka January 28, 2017 at 8:01 AM UTC


wtf the fuck
If you really can't read that even though the words are spaced out to avoid clutter then I really don't know what to do for you.

Like... seriously.

ALM January 28, 2017 at 8:01 AM UTC

Since this thread has just turned into a pointless argument, and since we are removing support, I'm going to go ahead and lock this.

Thanks everyone for your feedback on the poll!

Posighdun January 30, 2017 at 1:01 AM UTC

I unlocked this to give an update. I'm going to relock it though because this post has essentially turned into a flame thread.

I apologise for the mixed messages that have been going on. There was some miscommunication between the Developers and the Admins. We managed to fix 1.7 so that you are able to play 1.8 maps, 1.8 items are just substituted out for 1.7 ones, so 1.7 will not be removed for the time being. Once again I do apologise.

The only real issue is you can't play CTF if you are in 1.7. So if you want to play CTF, you need to be in 1.8.x and over.