Avicus Archive

Need some help please by JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

I know this is longer than the essay portion of my english final, but please bear with me.

So my mom told me today that I play way too much video games, but I really don't think I do, compared to other people. I usually play for like an hour on weekdays and like 2-3 hours on the weekends. The majority of that would be Minecraft (mostly Avicus), though sometimes I play League of Legends.

Well, every time my mom sees me playing video games, she would stand behind me and annoy me every 10 seconds until I stop playing. That's primarily the reason why I often disconnect mid-game and come back online a few minutes later. At night, she often unplugs the router before she goes to bed, and she didn't hide it very well, so I could just plug it back in. But now its even worse. She hides it really well, and I end up wasting a lot of time looking for it.

Today, after I played a few rounds of Nebula with some friends (99250, lunax, netox, cynder, etc) she said she had to do something about this situation. She gave me 2 options: give her the computer forever (well probably a long time), or uninstall Minecraft and any other games that I might have. What should I do? I have a lot of friends on Avicus, and other servers/games. I spent $50 on Avicus, and also donated to a few other servers. I dedicated so much time, and I'm so freaking close to prestige 3. She says the money is worth nothing now, and she said the friends aren't real people. All the time I spent on gaming she says is wasted.

Please help me. I don't want to get into a huge fight or anything,  but I don't want to lose the privilege to play video games, even if it's only once in a while.

Thank you for reading this.

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

You don't know her, she won't give it back for a really long time, possible a few months. I have a job as a programmer, so I need a computer. Option B won't work either, since I can't just give up everything, even if all of it is pointless.

Numberz_ June 22, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

I am one of those people who plays A lot more then you. But I don't know what to say dude sorry D:

Emmaye June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

I don't know what to say either :C sorry

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

Yeah, ik. I asked her why other kids got to play so much, and I didn't. She told me that I'm unlucky to have her as my mom. I honestly don't play so much for the sake of playing the game, but to play with friends. If I'm on avicus and none of my friends are on, I'll usually disconnect after a few minutes.

GamblerTheGreat June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

I think the best option here (which is still bad) is to give here the computer, because u can always log in on another computer like at school or a friends.

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

None of my friends would let me use their computer. The school computers are too crappy to even run Google Chrome, let alone Minecraft

Numberz_ June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

None of my friends would let me use their computer. The school computers are too crappy to even run Google Chrome, let alone Minecraft
That sucks even more D':

GamblerTheGreat June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

oh :/ Well if it gets real bad just stand up to her and tell her how the cow eats the cabbage

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

oh :/ Well if it gets real bad just stand up to her and tell her how the cow eats the cabbage
What do you mean?

GamblerTheGreat June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

Tell her this is unfair treatment and this is what i like to do, everyone has a hobby, and if she is keeping u from that hobby then its dictatorship

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

Tell her this is unfair treatment and this is what i like to do, everyone has a hobby, and if she is keeping u from that hobby then its dictatorship
I already tried that. She said my hobby is pointless and I need to find something else to do. I brought up the "dictatorship" part a few times also, and she told me that as long as I'm under 18, I'm under her control.

GamblerTheGreat June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

Yea it is :/ Last thing I can think of is making a compromise between u and ur mom

MustardMan227 June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

Did you tell her that you have a job and you need the computer for it?

Zedther June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

lol.. bear with me..
sorry if I'm getting nit picky, but it's bare D :
But srsly, go outside more, than play games.

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

@mustard yes she knows, and she doesn't care

@zedther its "bear"...study up on vocab before you correct people. "bare" with me has a completely different meaning that would probably me inappropriate for the forums.

GamblerTheGreat June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

@mustard yes she knows, and she doesn't care

@zedther its "bear"...study up on vocab before you correct people. "bare" with me has a completely different meaning that would probably me inappropriate for the forums.
Busy man

The_Detonator_ June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

Legally, your parents own you and everything you "own" until you are 18. Complete abomination of the law in my opinion.

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

Legally, your parents own you and everything you "own" until you are 18. Complete abomination of the law in my opinion.
So if I buy something with my own money that I got from my job, and my parents take it away, it's legal?

GamblerTheGreat June 22, 2014 at 7:06 AM UTC

Yes

Hakkniv June 22, 2014 at 7:06 AM UTC

What might, just might work (depending on how your mom reacted) would be to have people to sign an online petition to show how many people care about you and want to keep you here. If she wants proof that they are real people, show her these forums, and the show your face thread, ask for pics, show forum threads where each person expresses themselves and talk about something they have in common, something they all love, and maybe, if someone was willing, have her talk to a person, see that they are real, alive, and care about you.

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 10:06 AM UTC

What might, just might work (depending on how your mom reacted) would be to have people to sign an online petition to show how many people care about you and want to keep you here. If she wants proof that they are real people, show her these forums, and the show your face thread, ask for pics, show forum threads where each person expresses themselves and talk about something they have in common, something they all love, and maybe, if someone was willing, have her talk to a person, see that they are real, alive, and care about you.
That actually sounds like a great idea! I'll definitely try most, if not all, of those things. Hopefully it works. The only thing she doesn't understand is that people actually care about each other online in a community like this. She thinks we just discuss game stuff all day here. So yeah, I'll try it and tell you what happens

Netuxx June 22, 2014 at 2:06 PM UTC

Wow, sounds like your mom is one of those overprotective moms....
This sounds stupid but what about a family psychologist? if you got problems with one member of your family or your family in general you should go with them/her/him.
Hope this problem get solved soon and we can see you In Game again and more =D

Ingigo June 22, 2014 at 2:06 PM UTC

You have a mum like mine dude...
My mum basically yesterday for example was tapping me on the shoulder to annoy me when I had enough of it and that is when I threw down my temporary headset and I broke it. She said that she will break my computer after that but she couldn't do it of the "cost" of the computer. Then, to annoy me more, she disconnects the router by purpose so I can get off. My mum then complains to my dad and then my dad rants at me so much that I can't take it. Ahhhh... I feel you dude, but how to get over the problem, you have to like negotiate some kind of promise, like I will only play on weekends, this might be harsh but this is how I got over it until she went calmer....

MustardMan227 June 22, 2014 at 3:06 PM UTC

Well, since she does know about you job tell her this: "Mom, if you make me get off the computer for ever I won't be able to make money. If I can't get money how will I be able to get my feet off the ground when I'm 18? Also if you make me delete my minecraft that could effect my job as a programmer. I could use minecraft to test the code that I make. Minecraft has a great community if people. They are real, we talk about interesting things. Not just game involved conflicts. See what happens if you take my computer away or make me delete my minecraft and all my games."

kycrafft June 22, 2014 at 4:06 PM UTC

She thinks this is pointless? A community spanning 6 continents (let's it say there are 7 total), dozens of countries, hundreds of thousands of players, millions of hours of fun, and thousands of friends. 


Your mom thinks this is pointless? I can't tell you what to do, but try a compromise that allows you to still play. No on here wants to lose you.

kycrafft June 22, 2014 at 4:06 PM UTC

"friends aren't real people. All the time I spent on gaming she says is wasted." 

Just because we aren't your IRL friends, doesn't mean we aren't friends. We are a community. We help each other through the good and the bad, and overall have a good time with each other. Is t that what friends do? What else are we then?

_BillGates June 22, 2014 at 5:06 PM UTC

It looks like ur mom is like mine...Well when my mom says she Will break The Computer i ussualy say The number 6830 (price of my compeuter in dolars)if that dont work tell your das ur mom os not letting you do ur job as programmer. If all of this donr work ONLY IF ignore her, dont say a word until she tells u can go back to The Computer.  In last case forget what she told u and continue playing games and ser how she react.

JKawesome June 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM UTC

@elda
That won't work at all. She's not gonna listen to reason. She just wants video games out of her life.

@kyycraft
I will show her your posts. That was amazing 

@samir
She doesn't care the slightest bit about how much the computer costs. If I just keep playing games she's just gonna take my computer away possibly forever, until I'm 18 or something.

i have 13 minutes now to make a decision. Wish me luck.

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

Alright, so she made me delete Minecraft. I chose that instead of giving her the computer. I did show her the forums, the show your face thread, and these posts, but she doesn't care. I also showed her the petition, and she said, "If these people don't want you to leave, thats not my problem." That's just plain selfish if you ask me. She won't listen to any reasoning at all. Any more ideas?

If not, you guys probably wont see me at the monuments for a long time.

cinammoncroc000 June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

:'(
Not even a little compromise? That is quite selfish.
I'm not exactly the "idealistic" person, so I have no ideas. Sorry :(
It was nice playing with you and rushing/defending against you. (That Tectum game... lol.)

Hopefully you can find a way around this :)

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

xD I'm gonna miss your defenses
I asked her if I can just play for like an hour each weekend or something, and she said no video games at all. Like what the frick? I have feelings too, I'm a person. She cant take away one of the things I love just like that.

Tarulas June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

Say Yourfacehaha and tell her it's my bestie and install minecraft but hide it in a folder

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

She doesn't care about friends online. I already tried that. And I did hide Minecraft in my backup hard drive, but idk how to play it without her noticing. We have a tiny house...

ParthDarthVader June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

Say Yourfacehaha and tell her it's my bestie and install minecraft but hide it in a folder
My parents don't know where my downloads folder is so I just hide everything there xD

But anyways....
How much you wanna bet your mom is just banning you from video games so she can play them? Lol I've heard A LOT I stories from my friends about that one....

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

She's not. And even though she's not a Mac user (she uses a noobish PC :P) my dad is and he has a degree in computer science so I'm pretty sure he knows where the downloads folder is.

Netuxx June 23, 2014 at 3:06 AM UTC

She's not. And even though she's not a Mac user (she uses a noobish PC :P) my dad is and he has a degree in computer science so I'm pretty sure he knows where the downloads folder is.
Wait, so your father agree with your mom? It sucks wow...

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

Yeah, but the good news is that my dad is in Taiwan for a week. Still they both claim they hate video games, although sometimes I'll catch my dad playing Mahjong or something on his iPad late at night :P

I remember once when my mom got addicted to Tetris Battle on facebook.

Princezz_Dubstep June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

Maybe you should take a small break from games, and prove to your mom you can handle without them for awhile. (So it's good to play once in awhile.) She'll have to understand that games is what you like to do as a hobby. 
 Hang out with your friends, go see movies w/ people. Do things to keep you occupied from playing games for awhile. I know that my parents don't really like that I play games because I'm a girl :p but they are okay with it, because I don't say games are my life because they're not. I just proved to my parents that I still keep up with my life, and get straight A's, and still manage to be very active with games. Tell your mom a propersition about how you feel with games, and show her you can do other things without games. She'll soon have to understand that you proved her wrong I hope. I remember my mom telling me "Rianna; I never thought you of all the girls would be playing games,and liking dubstep." I just keep up with my life, because I know games aren't life. Maybe she need to see that from you? I know moms and dad's don't really understand that we'll, but they have to accept the fact sometime. I hope this helps!:)

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

Maybe you should take a small break from games, and prove to your mom you can handle without them for awhile. (So it's good to play once in awhile.) She'll have to understand that games is what you like to do as a hobby. 
 Hang out with your friends, go see movies w/ people. Do things to keep you occupied from playing games for awhile. I know that my parents don't really like that I play games because I'm a girl :p but they are okay with it, because I don't say games are my life because they're not. I just proved to my parents that I still keep up with my life, and get straight A's, and still manage to be very active with games. Tell your mom a propersition about how you feel with games, and show her you can do other things without games. She'll soon have to understand that you proved her wrong I hope. I remember my mom telling me "Rianna; I never thought you of all the girls would be playing games,and liking dubstep." I just keep up with my life, because I know games aren't life. Maybe she need to see that from you? I know moms and dad's don't really understand that we'll, but they have to accept the fact sometime. I hope this helps!:)
PRINCEZZ :D

Games aren't my life, no matter how much she thinks it is. I may spend a couple hours a day on Minecraft and League, but I do a lot more than that. I get good grades, play piano and cello, I swim and play golf, and I have a job. What more can she ask from me? In my opinion, she hates games and doesn't see them as a form of entertainment due to the fact that they weren't around when she was a teenager.

Every time there are shootings on the news or something, and it relates to the killer playing games, she has to point that out to me. I have to tell her every time that the games I play aren't violent. I don't play stuff like Counter Strike, COD, or worst of all, that school shooter game that Adam Lanza played. I play Minecraft. It's like LEGOs, where you're in a virtual world and build stuff with blocks. That's not that bad. There's not even guns in this game (vanilla minecraft).

I hang out with my friends a lot over the weekends, and during the summer. We go to movies, we bike, eat lunch together, all that stuff. People on Avicus aren't my only friends in this world. I think she needs to understand these things. I know very clearly games aren't my life at all. I have goals set for my future, where I want to go to college, what I want to do after I graduate, etc. So my mom needs to learn that.

The problem is, in some cases, she just won't listen. Unfortunately, this is one of them. Sorry for writing these essays, but I just wanted to get all these feelings out.

Princezz_Dubstep June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

PRINCEZZ :D

Games aren't my life, no matter how much she thinks it is. I may spend a couple hours a day on Minecraft and League, but I do a lot more than that. I get good grades, play piano and cello, I swim and play golf, and I have a job. What more can she ask from me? In my opinion, she hates games and doesn't see them as a form of entertainment due to the fact that they weren't around when she was a teenager.

Every time there are shootings on the news or something, and it relates to the killer playing games, she has to point that out to me. I have to tell her every time that the games I play aren't violent. I don't play stuff like Counter Strike, COD, or worst of all, that school shooter game that Adam Lanza played. I play Minecraft. It's like LEGOs, where you're in a virtual world and build stuff with blocks. That's not that bad. There's not even guns in this game (vanilla minecraft).

I hang out with my friends a lot over the weekends, and during the summer. We go to movies, we bike, eat lunch together, all that stuff. People on Avicus aren't my only friends in this world. I think she needs to understand these things. I know very clearly games aren't my life at all. I have goals set for my future, where I want to go to college, what I want to do after I graduate, etc. So my mom needs to learn that.

The problem is, in some cases, she just won't listen. Unfortunately, this is one of them. Sorry for writing these essays, but I just wanted to get all these feelings out.
I'm sorry to hear this conundrum... Last thing I would have to say is, compromise. Explain your reasoning, and have her explain hers, and just compromise. I know you'll probably be like "I've tried it, I've done everything.", maybe you both just really need to explain how you feel about it. Moms and dad's both have a different perspective point and opinion of view on how they handle things. Sit down and talk with her, be strict on your point. (Don't give attitude .-. It never ends well...) Tell her how your very capable with your life, and you accomplishing achievements. Tell her that your very responsible, don't be pushy. Let her have time to think about it. I'm sorry to hear this, and I hope this helps you. :P GL

Princezz_Dubstep June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

If you ever need to privately talk, you can skype me. I know my mom said the same about shootings, and how I play too much violent games on Xbox .-. My mom had to really accept the fact that this is what I love, and this is what I like. She legit was the same way as your mom, about shootins etc. Skype me if you ever need more in depth detail on this subject. I'd be more than happy to help out :)

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

Yeah, thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, I already tried all that. Believe me, I've tried everything. Its okay, because I just told her I dont have minecraft on my computer anymore, and I won't install it again. Which is true, because in a way, you don't install Minecraft. It's portable. Also, I'm keeping it on a separate hard drive, so technically its not "in my computer" :P I disguised it as Internet Explorer, changing the icon and name and everything. Hopefully she doesn't know that Internet Explorer isn't available for Mac xD

Hopefully my problems are solved for now. Thanks to all of you who helped. See you at the monument!

SpicyTunaRoll9 June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

There are more people who win the lottery every year than people who kill people because of violent video games.

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

There are more people who win the lottery every year than people who kill people because of violent video games.
That's true

GamblerTheGreat June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

The only motive I could remember is Sandy Hook.

HatGril June 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

Tell your mom ur whole story about avicus and ur friends *wink and tell her until you're done,and if she doesnt listen tell her uninstall games bc you need your computer for alot of stuff,

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 6:06 AM UTC

The only motive I could remember is Sandy Hook.
There was a guy who stabbed like 4 people to death and like 20 people were injured at a train station in Taiwan a few weeks ago. http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/21/world/asia/taiwan-train-stabbing/

JKawesome June 23, 2014 at 6:06 PM UTC

I probably can, except for the fact that I have a desktop computer :P

DarkPlaysMc June 24, 2014 at 2:06 AM UTC

When u come to my house, u can borrow a computer

JKawesome June 24, 2014 at 7:06 AM UTC

When u come to my house, u can borrow a computer
But I probably won't get the chance to come over to your house in a long time. BTW we haven't seen each other IRL in like a year :P

Jasshan June 24, 2014 at 7:06 AM UTC

PRINCEZZ :D

Games aren't my life, no matter how much she thinks it is. I may spend a couple hours a day on Minecraft and League, but I do a lot more than that. I get good grades, play piano and cello, I swim and play golf, and I have a job. What more can she ask from me? In my opinion, she hates games and doesn't see them as a form of entertainment due to the fact that they weren't around when she was a teenager.

Every time there are shootings on the news or something, and it relates to the killer playing games, she has to point that out to me. I have to tell her every time that the games I play aren't violent. I don't play stuff like Counter Strike, COD, or worst of all, that school shooter game that Adam Lanza played. I play Minecraft. It's like LEGOs, where you're in a virtual world and build stuff with blocks. That's not that bad. There's not even guns in this game (vanilla minecraft).

I hang out with my friends a lot over the weekends, and during the summer. We go to movies, we bike, eat lunch together, all that stuff. People on Avicus aren't my only friends in this world. I think she needs to understand these things. I know very clearly games aren't my life at all. I have goals set for my future, where I want to go to college, what I want to do after I graduate, etc. So my mom needs to learn that.

The problem is, in some cases, she just won't listen. Unfortunately, this is one of them. Sorry for writing these essays, but I just wanted to get all these feelings out.
No offence, but your mom is a idiot to think video games promote violence.If video games promoted violence why the hell did world war 2 happen?Ask her that for me please.I'm sorry to hear of your predicament,as I have never been in a situation like this before.My parents are extremely reasonable people(thank god),so they let me play any game I want because I usually always put studies first.But you have a job and your mom still complains?Thats just idiotic and your mom had a personal agenda behind making you not playing games.Probably wants you to study harder or something else which is too stupid for us to speak about.Hopefully she will see reason and the error in her ways but i doubt it.GL

-Jasshan

JKawesome June 24, 2014 at 8:06 AM UTC

No offence, but your mom is a idiot to think video games promote violence.If video games promoted violence why the hell did world war 2 happen?Ask her that for me please.I'm sorry to hear of your predicament,as I have never been in a situation like this before.My parents are extremely reasonable people(thank god),so they let me play any game I want because I usually always put studies first.But you have a job and your mom still complains?Thats just idiotic and your mom had a personal agenda behind making you not playing games.Probably wants you to study harder or something else which is too stupid for us to speak about.Hopefully she will see reason and the error in her ways but i doubt it.GL

-Jasshan
Yeah, no offense taken :P
In my opinion video games rarely promote any violence. I think most of the violence in this world is caused by religion. Yeah, she just really hates video games for some reason. She does want me to study harder, even though I'm already doing pretty decent in school, but that's just because she's Asian

build_high June 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM UTC

It can't be that bad....
i have seen you on twice in the last two days.

JKawesome June 24, 2014 at 10:06 AM UTC

It's always late at night when my mom is asleep that I'm able to play. For instance now it's 3 am

build_high June 24, 2014 at 10:06 AM UTC

So you can still play just nawt when you parents are around or awake.

vladthegreat100 June 24, 2014 at 12:06 PM UTC

11 reasons why video games are good for you:
http://business.financialpost.com/2013/09/14/11-ways-playing-video-games-makes-you-smarter-and-healt...
 
top 10 signs that you play too much video games (if you don't have these you are fine)
http://ca.askmen.com/top_10/videogame/top-10-signs-you-play-video-games-too-often.html
 
Make sure to show your mom BOTH of those sites... then she will get that little part out of her head that you play video games too much

lukehan2001 June 24, 2014 at 12:06 PM UTC

I know how you feel just give her the computer then you can have it back (maybe im not sure about forever).
Maybe you can give her the computer and then act like you arn't addicted to games anymore. Then she'll give u your pc back

ViolentBoo June 24, 2014 at 3:06 PM UTC

I can't stand it when parents do this shit. It's so god damn annoying. I'm sorry for swearing but this REALLY ticks me off. On average I'm on the computer for 10 hours a day. What are my grades? A's and B's. Except that one class that I failed but if the computer actually effected me, I would be failing every class. If I'm passing my classes what the hell is the problem?

Find a new hobby? My hobby is to go on the computer. Your hobby? Bitching about everyone else's "problems".

rememes June 24, 2014 at 3:06 PM UTC

Have exactly the same problemo. I gave my mom the PC and I earnt it back in less than 3 hours :/ Just try and be as nice as you can I guess.

Hakkniv June 27, 2014 at 5:06 AM UTC

No offence, but your mom is a idiot to think video games promote violence.If video games promoted violence why the hell did world war 2 happen?Ask her that for me please.I'm sorry to hear of your predicament,as I have never been in a situation like this before.My parents are extremely reasonable people(thank god),so they let me play any game I want because I usually always put studies first.But you have a job and your mom still complains?Thats just idiotic and your mom had a personal agenda behind making you not playing games.Probably wants you to study harder or something else which is too stupid for us to speak about.Hopefully she will see reason and the error in her ways but i doubt it.GL

-Jasshan
"If video games promoted violence why the hell did world war 2 happen?"

Please, please tell me you were being ironic there, tell me that was sarcasm, satire, something! If you were serious that is literally the least logical thing i have ever heard. Video games DO glorify violence, thats a fact, its just not prove that it increases real life rates of violence, although there is fairly solid evidence that it causes a slight increase. Minecraft: gawd no. Books are actually shown to cause higher crime rates than games. But games DO, undeniably, glorify and promote violence. They also give you a place to take out that violence, so you dont go kill anyone. Trust me, if i didnt play games id be bored and act violent and more people would be dead by my hand than hitler and stalin's death counts combined. Thank god for games rite? But seriously, games promote violence, they dont spread it, the end, spread the word