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For upcomming tournament by Robin_DD_J August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

As many of you know, today a lot of people aren't legit. Some use a certain client others use macros.
While playing scrims from time to time, there is usually one or two callouts on a player, basically they think someone hack on the opponents team.
I belive it would be good if people could request a staff member which is very experienced with clients and minecraft modifications to screenshare people after games in the tournament. Basically, once the game is over a referee will ask, "would you like us to screenshare anyone?" If we respond no, nothing will be done, if we respond yes, and tell the referee the IGN of this person, that person may not leave the server without getting his team DQed. Once the staff have screenshared him and been thorugh his minecraft folders, and give him permission to leave, he may do so. 
If staff finds anything, his team will get DQed.

Just a small idea that could be good.

Rainstruck August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

So they would screen share through Skype or in game?

Robin_DD_J August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

So they would screen share through Skype or in game?
Skype, or if avicus finds something els they may use that.

Administrafer August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

So they would screen share through Skype or in game?
Join.me


@OP I am willing to implement this.

Rainstruck August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

Join.me


@OP I am willing to implement this.
What is join.me?

Administrafer August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

What is join.me?
Program used purely to screenshare, but it doesn't show IPs. It is much more safer than using Skype where if a player gets disqualified,  atleast the tournament staff member is safer.

Rainstruck August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

Program used purely to screenshare, but it doesn't show IPs. It is much more safer than using Skype where if a player gets disqualified,  atleast the tournament staff member is safer.
Sounds useful to me! 

+1

Spoookeh August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

+1 Really good idea. This should be implemented.

Tazz August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

This should be done on join.me. The only thing is, no one on the current staff team would be able to find a ghost client, I guarantee that. They need to get someone to teach the staff how to screenshare. However, not a lot of people would be knowledgeable in this subject. I can think of only a couple of people who could find a ghost client, and I can think of ihze, DGB and myself off of the top of my head. 

I would be happy if this was implemented only if the whole team weren't DQed if someone was caught, he was only permanently banned and the match was replayed. It is not fair for the whole team to be punished for one person who they didn't know was hacking. The whole team should only be DQed if the player refuses or if the player logs off.

vladthegreat100 August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

It's a good idea, but you do know people can disable the hacks while in game, they don't necessarily have to switch over to the new client.

Spoookeh August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

This should be done on join.me. The only thing is, no one on the current staff team would be able to find a ghost client, I guarantee that. They need to get someone to teach the staff how to screenshare. However, not a lot of people would be knowledgeable in this subject. I can think of only a couple of people who could find a ghost client, and I can think of ihze, DGB and myself off of the top of my head. 

I would be happy if this was implemented only if the whole team weren't DQed if someone was caught, he was only permanently banned and the match was replayed. It is not fair for the whole team to be punished for one person who they didn't know was hacking. The whole team should only be DQed if the player refuses or if the player logs off.
Having someone teach some staff members to screen share would be helpful.
Also, the whole team should be DQed if something is found. The match shouldn't be replayed and the player banned.

pope_panda August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

ihze beast detector

Da_Baus August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

It's a good idea, but you do know people can disable the hacks while in game, they don't necessarily have to switch over to the new client.
They can but when your hacking you press a key to bring up the menu or it is also in options and with a gc its In the mod folder I'm pretty sure

voidloop August 29, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

Program used purely to screenshare, but it doesn't show IPs. It is much more safer than using Skype where if a player gets disqualified,  atleast the tournament staff member is safer.
Please.
+1

Administrafer August 29, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC

This should be done on join.me. The only thing is, no one on the current staff team would be able to find a ghost client, I guarantee that. They need to get someone to teach the staff how to screenshare. However, not a lot of people would be knowledgeable in this subject. I can think of only a couple of people who could find a ghost client, and I can think of ihze, DGB and myself off of the top of my head. 

I would be happy if this was implemented only if the whole team weren't DQed if someone was caught, he was only permanently banned and the match was replayed. It is not fair for the whole team to be punished for one person who they didn't know was hacking. The whole team should only be DQed if the player refuses or if the player logs off.
I screenshare players all the time on kohi, so I know how to utilize the ss session to locate clients and/or illegal modifications. Training the tournament staff in that area would also be on the to-do list.

voidloop August 29, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC

I screenshare players all the time on kohi, so I know how to utilize the ss session to locate clients and/or illegal modifications. Training the tournament staff in that area would also be on the to-do list.
wot?
You staff on kohi?

BmB August 29, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC

For those of you who don't really understand screen sharing involves,  single player commands checking, checking any external macros, via USB or SSD, checking any mouse driver for macros and steer mouse for mac users, looking inside any "recognised mod's" e.g: togglesneak to check there is no client hidden in there, checking recycle bin etc. It isn't just looking at their minecraft ingame and looking for a client's GUI. 

IMO this would be brilliant and i would love for it to happen, however i think this should be done before a tourney and only have the player DQ'ed as it's not the teams fault if one player is cheating without the rest of the members knowledge.

Administrafer August 29, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC

wot?
You staff on kohi?
No, as a regular player.

voidloop August 29, 2015 at 11:08 PM UTC

No, as a regular player.
Oh, That's what I found Strange.

I've been TrialMod, Mod & Sr.Mod and then retired.

And I didn't know you was staff, at least not from 2013-2015
xD
Nise man

Dyspa August 30, 2015 at 3:08 AM UTC

Oh, That's what I found Strange.

I've been TrialMod, Mod & Sr.Mod and then retired.

And I didn't know you was staff, at least not from 2013-2015
xD
Nise man
Please tell me you're kidding. TMod, Mod and SMod?
I've been playing Kohi for 2 years and a half but I haven't seen you on with a staff rank.

voidloop August 30, 2015 at 6:08 AM UTC

Please tell me you're kidding. TMod, Mod and SMod?
I've been playing Kohi for 2 years and a half but I haven't seen you on with a staff rank.
I'm not, I can send evidence via pm in needed.

Then I had a problem with Ritsu and i retired and she banned me.

ImRaging August 30, 2015 at 6:08 AM UTC

Having someone teach some staff members to screen share would be helpful.
Also, the whole team should be DQed if something is found. The match shouldn't be replayed and the player banned.
Ok. What if i decided to join berzerk in the tourney, and then be a troll and hack? You're saying that you wouldn't mind your whole team getting dq'd? Anyone can hack, even the least suspected people...

Numberz_ August 30, 2015 at 7:08 AM UTC

Ok. What if i decided to join berzerk in the tourney, and then be a troll and hack? You're saying that you wouldn't mind your whole team getting dq'd? Anyone can hack, even the least suspected people...
That's why you make sure teammates don't hack. "You wins as a team, you lose as a team." One teammate hacks the rest goes down as well, makes the people that have some common sense read the rules and not hack.

Robin_DD_J August 30, 2015 at 7:08 AM UTC

That's why you make sure teammates don't hack. "You wins as a team, you lose as a team." One teammate hacks the rest goes down as well, makes the people that have some common sense read the rules and not hack.
I agree with this.

HotAndCrunch August 30, 2015 at 7:08 AM UTC

I agree but what if he has to go right after the match, and it is very important

smitdalt August 30, 2015 at 7:08 AM UTC

This is probably a good idea, although it's sad that so many people cheat that this is needed..

inb4 avicus players get an injection client

ImRaging August 30, 2015 at 8:08 AM UTC

That's why you make sure teammates don't hack. "You wins as a team, you lose as a team." One teammate hacks the rest goes down as well, makes the people that have some common sense read the rules and not hack.
I agree, but i don't see how you can make sure someone isn't hacking. Sure, you can screenshare them, but to absolutely make sure, you'd have to do it everyday surely? What team has time to do that?

Numberz_ August 30, 2015 at 8:08 AM UTC

I agree, but i don't see how you can make sure someone isn't hacking. Sure, you can screenshare them, but to absolutely make sure, you'd have to do it everyday surely? What team has time to do that?
Trust. If you can't trust your teammates, they shouldn't be on your team.

JOHN_CENAAAAAAAA August 30, 2015 at 8:08 AM UTC

i have hacked clients galore in my folders but i don't use them on avicus. is this going to get me banned????????

Notalgicular August 30, 2015 at 9:08 AM UTC

Ok. What if i decided to join berzerk in the tourney, and then be a troll and hack? You're saying that you wouldn't mind your whole team getting dq'd? Anyone can hack, even the least suspected people...
Bad Company would have one the tournament if it wasn't for 1 person hacking. We were pissed because it wasn't all of our fault, but its the only way to stop people hacking.

Tazz August 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM UTC

Bad Company would have one the tournament if it wasn't for 1 person hacking. We were pissed because it wasn't all of our fault, but its the only way to stop people hacking.
I never hacked noob

ImRaging August 30, 2015 at 11:08 AM UTC

Trust. If you can't trust your teammates, they shouldn't be on your team.
It's the internet. As much as you trust someone, they could back stab you at anytime.

Jahaj August 30, 2015 at 5:08 PM UTC

I agree but what if he has to go right after the match, and it is very important
That's what I was thinking. I do that a lot, too.

Robin_DD_J August 30, 2015 at 5:08 PM UTC

I agree but what if he has to go right after the match, and it is very important
Then get a player who don't need to leave after. If you accept to play in the tournament, and this suggestion gets confirmed you should be ready to put down extra time.

HotAndCrunch August 30, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC

Then get a player who don't need to leave after. If you accept to play in the tournament, and this suggestion gets confirmed you should be ready to put down extra time.
but what if your team has 8 players but you can come on for 30 minutesbefore you have to go. You play for that 30 minutes and you are about to go when your team wins. The other team accuse you of hacking and your parents switch your wifi off at the wall.

BmB August 30, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC

Then get a player who don't need to leave after. If you accept to play in the tournament, and this suggestion gets confirmed you should be ready to put down extra time.
Robin, it's a minecraft tournament, you can never really guarantee what will happen, parents can swich internet off, you can be ddosed, your minecraft can crash, your internet can crash, your computer can crash, something important might come up. Like dude come on.

steven5703 August 30, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC

i have hacked clients galore in my folders but i don't use them on avicus. is this going to get me banned????????
Same here. 

Anyway... my computer is a shared computer, my parents use it, so theres some pretty private files there. I also clear my recycle bin regularly because it will lag and fill my storage if there is a lot of files. Seems like an invasion of privacy to me.
There's just too many flaws

DonaldMyTrump August 30, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC

I feel like this would be abused a lot and teams would be DQ'd rather regularly for players disconnecting. Also it makes ddosing op, instead of ddosing a whole team to get a no show just ddos a single player and accuse him of hacks. Tournament staff should be competent enough to detect hacks without this.

I instead reccomend all refs, officials and advisors record their perspectives of the match, if a team believes a player hacks they can inform the tourney staff and have the footage reviewed.

BmB August 30, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC

This shouldn't be a mandatory thing, it should be done when a player is accused of hacking or a staff members suspects them, not to every random person.

Dyspa August 30, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC

Lie more, you said you got "falsely" banned for "hacking" and now you're telling me you had an issue with Ritsu.

pope_panda August 30, 2015 at 8:08 PM UTC

what would happen if you accused the entire team of hacking just because you lost? would officials have to try and check all them?

PieZ August 30, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

I wouldn't want my computer shared for reasons. I am very secretive that my team doesn't know my name nor my voice(That mic is so bad) I have security issues with this sorry

BmB August 30, 2015 at 10:08 PM UTC

I mean come on guys someone could find my porn collection.

DaFrozenBlaze August 31, 2015 at 1:08 PM UTC

It would kinda take a bit of time, and yeah, privacy issues.