Pretty sure out of all the feedback spreadsheets, documents, and polls, the staff are aware of what to fix. Most of it lies with the devs or seniors, so there is a delay.
We can pick out feedback from the other thread. Shouldn't be too difficult.
I have these two posts that a Map Dev should have at least replied to, no reply. I personally haven't had any issues with any Map Devs in the past, but I have heard of some people complaining because walls maps/complaints/ideas are not being tested, or even looked at. A lot of people stopped playing walls because of different reasons, and they have said this before, in-game and on the forums, yet no one does anything about walls. From what I can see, walls is the second biggest game mode on Avicus, and even though a lot of people prefer Nebula, there are people that like walls as well. Completely ignoring this game mode will only work until people get bored of Nebula and have no where to go, so they just leave. I understand that Nebula is more popular and has more maps that need to be tested. But completely ignoring a game mode that could be a lot better if you paid attention to it, that's not going to help this server at all. -- All I ask for this one,is just pay attention to more game modes then only Nebula.
Lag- I know this can only be fixed in certain ways, and it is very hard to fix, but it is very annoying. Para had mentioned before that the server needs to be full 1.8 before the lag can be fixed. And right now the server is still 1.7/1.8, and only allowing 1.8 players to join. Just update the server, I don't know how hard this is, but I'm pretty sure it will be worth it.
These are two posts that I have already given my opinion on, and seem to have just gotten completely ignored.If you could show this to a Map Dev, that would be great. And preferably someone who will actually do something. :) (https://avicus.net/forums/3023ab9da) (https://avicus.net/forums/954e6d247)
They may have dropped the ball, but they're not stupid.
Which begs the question as to why are more of these types being made? If they know what they need to improve and fix, why are they still asking?
Because if they don't know by now that the server lag is terrible, the staff-community relations are pathetic, or that the Senior Staff team (at least appears to be) [is] biased then they'll never know.
These are issues that have plagued the staff team ever since I was apart of it. And quite frankly, there are no signs of improvement.
Instead of asking the community for feedback that they already know, they need to start working on it. A strong staff structure with a good sense of community relations is a perfect way to start.
Which begs the question as to why are more of these types being made? If they know what they need to improve and fix, why are they still asking?
Because if they don't know by now that the server lag is terrible, the staff-community relations are pathetic, or that the Senior Staff team (at least appears to be) [is] biased then they'll never know.
These are issues that have plagued the staff team ever since I was apart of it. And quite frankly, there are no signs of improvement.
Instead of asking the community for feedback that they already know, they need to start working on it. A strong staff structure with a good sense of community relations is a perfect way to start.
This isn't something that'll just happen in the blink of an eye, though. In fact, it was you yourself that said on another thread "patience is a virtue," and I intend to adhere to those words.
Internally, we have taken all feedback presented to us and are constantly working towards improving the many aspects of the team.
If you already are working on all of this feedback then why is this thread here? Also, why isn't the Administrative team updating the community on the progression? Clearly you and I both can tell that the community is getting restless so by creating an update thread it will put some minds at ease.
Instead of telling me that you're working on it, show me by creating an update thread in the "Announcements".
This isn't something that'll just happen in the blink of an eye, though. In fact, it was you yourself that said on another thread "patience is a virtue," and I intend to adhere to those words.
Patience is indeed a virtue that the community needs to have. I understand that it takes time to achieve these goals, and know the limitations that come along with them.
But if the staff really are working on all these issues, then updating the community of their progress would settle some of the tension the community has. It will also give players an understanding on where the staff team are at.
If you already are working on all of this feedback then why is this thread here? Also, why isn't the Administrative team updating the community on the progression? Clearly you and I both can tell that the community is getting restless so by creating an update thread it will put some minds at ease.
Instead of telling me that you're working on it, show me by creating an update thread in the "Announcements".
I had no part in the making of this thread, I assume it is FrozenSolstice wanting little suggestions and such from the community. I've already made it my goal to post updates more regularly, as you can see by the recent update post I made as soon as I was promoted to the Administrator role. (https://avicus.net/forums/89e434e4a)
I had no part in the making of this thread, I assume it is FrozenSolstice wanting little suggestions and such from the community. I've already made it my goal to post updates more regularly, as you can see by the recent update post I made as soon as I was promoted to the Administrator role. (https://avicus.net/forums/89e434e4a)
but we would like to continue making these updates for the community, to ensure that everyone is up to date with current events on Avicus - https://avicus.net/forums/89e434e4a
Judging by the recent bickering on the forums, it's clear that the community isn't up to speed.
but we would like to continue making these updates for the community, to ensure that everyone is up to date with current events on Avicus - https://avicus.net/forums/89e434e4a
Judging by the recent bickering on the forums, it's clear that the community isn't up to speed.
but we would like to continue making these updates for the community, to ensure that everyone is up to date with current events on Avicus - https://avicus.net/forums/89e434e4a
Judging by the recent bickering on the forums, it's clear that the community isn't up to speed.
Correct, I made this thread on my own accord.
I'd like to keep this thread clean so I can easily see suggestions. Snow, if you want to rant, go to Budah's post, or contact Ari privately.
The Moderator team should already be well aware of all the community suggestions and what needs improvement. I don't see why another thread needs to be made when suggestions and criticism that have been made in the past are still being worked on.
I might have a few ideas, but I don't want to say them to the Avicus community just yet (if it ends up being smiled upon, though, I'll definitely make a forum post about it). FrozenSolstice, my Skype is cynergy14 if you want to talk about it with me. If it's OK with you, I'd rather not discuss my suggestion(s) in public. Yet.
Leadership Right now, there is very little leadership from the admins... So much so an admin got demoted By the seniors. In all honesty, this shouldn't happen att all. When Howsie, Gill and I were admins, only kylo could demote us... Which allowed structure and a sense of leadership. When you have seniors taking control of demotion power; it becomes a rotating mess (so many admins coming and going in a couple months span). If the seniors have an issue with an admin; they should confront kylo so it isn't disorganised... Because let's be honest, he is probably the only one at the moment who is organised. Instead of a team full of opinions (which are easily swayed by peer pressure) you have obe ultimate decision.
Organisation Somewhat linked to leadership, but when someone is demoted, why give them a reassessment couple days later?? Then it isn't a demotion at all! Actually, if you are going to reassess; why not talk about it when they are demoted
Events So where are the events? Not tournaments or official ran events, but rather teamspeak parties... Giveaways etc. The admins seem to be so focused on staff related work it doesn't seem like they are planning anything FOR the community.
Promotions Inexperience in the senior team at the moment is crazy - admins being promoted with barely any experience as a senior (which is mainly a reason for the disorganisation and amount of mistakes made... Because they ARE bot used to an demanding team based environment). Promoting seniors just because "there is a space open"... Really? Seems like the admins are treating the seniors like numbers, not people (my pov). Work on assessing each moderator on experience and hardwork (hence the senior in senior moderator)
Mistakes I could be hypocritical here, but at this point in time I feel like it's very important to admit mistakes. You can't continue hiding and running away from the community. If you demote someone incorrectly, admit it openly with confidence. Feel like an event was wrong in your part? Admit that it was a fail and that you'll work on it! I regret making some decisions in the past; some of which were demoting a few quality seniors over some SILLY complaints (I demoted a senior for playing too much runescape and giving senior work less of a priority (glitchy ily) - but I barely admitted in making the wrong choice (because it was). I admit that I could have been more competent and less defensive at times. See what I just did @admins? I openly admitted things!!!!
Why? So the community can say "well, they are aware of their mistakes"!
That is all, will probably add more... And this is my opinion from both my experience as admin in the thriving days; and in the dying. .
Which begs the question as to why are more of these types being made? If they know what they need to improve and fix, why are they still asking?
Because if they don't know by now that the server lag is terrible, the staff-community relations are pathetic, or that the Senior Staff team (at least appears to be) [is] biased then they'll never know.
These are issues that have plagued the staff team ever since I was apart of it. And quite frankly, there are no signs of improvement.
Instead of asking the community for feedback that they already know, they need to start working on it. A strong staff structure with a good sense of community relations is a perfect way to start.
Explain to me how the senior staff team is bias?(I swear if you say because of your demotion)
Oh and where are the seniors? I can not believe mods are responding and no one from an official perspective is assisting... I commend the moda who are trying to do senior work :)
Leadership Right now, there is very little leadership from the admins... So much so an admin got demoted By the seniors. In all honesty, this shouldn't happen att all. When Howsie, Gill and I were admins, only kylo could demote us... Which allowed structure and a sense of leadership. When you have seniors taking control of demotion power; it becomes a rotating mess (so many admins coming and going in a couple months span). If the seniors have an issue with an admin; they should confront kylo so it isn't disorganised... Because let's be honest, he is probably the only one at the moment who is organised. Instead of a team full of opinions (which are easily swayed by peer pressure) you have obe ultimate decision.
Organisation Somewhat linked to leadership, but when someone is demoted, why give them a reassessment couple days later?? Then it isn't a demotion at all! Actually, if you are going to reassess; why not talk about it when they are demoted
Events So where are the events? Not tournaments or official ran events, but rather teamspeak parties... Giveaways etc. The admins seem to be so focused on staff related work it doesn't seem like they are planning anything FOR the community.
Promotions Inexperience in the senior team at the moment is crazy - admins being promoted with barely any experience as a senior (which is mainly a reason for the disorganisation and amount of mistakes made... Because they ARE bot used to an demanding team based environment). Promoting seniors just because "there is a space open"... Really? Seems like the admins are treating the seniors like numbers, not people (my pov). Work on assessing each moderator on experience and hardwork (hence the senior in senior moderator)
Mistakes I could be hypocritical here, but at this point in time I feel like it's very important to admit mistakes. You can't continue hiding and running away from the community. If you demote someone incorrectly, admit it openly with confidence. Feel like an event was wrong in your part? Admit that it was a fail and that you'll work on it! I regret making some decisions in the past; some of which were demoting a few quality seniors over some SILLY complaints (I demoted a senior for playing too much runescape and giving senior work less of a priority (glitchy ily) - but I barely admitted in making the wrong choice (because it was). I admit that I could have been more competent and less defensive at times. See what I just did @admins? I openly admitted things!!!!
Why? So the community can say "well, they are aware of their mistakes"!
That is all, will probably add more... And this is my opinion from both my experience as admin in the thriving days; and in the dying. .
Events are coming. The staff vs regulars game is one of these.
I also have a few ideas up my sleeve for other mini events in between the big tournaments
Leadership Right now, there is very little leadership from the admins... So much so an admin got demoted By the seniors. In all honesty, this shouldn't happen att all. When Howsie, Gill and I were admins, only kylo could demote us... Which allowed structure and a sense of leadership. When you have seniors taking control of demotion power; it becomes a rotating mess (so many admins coming and going in a couple months span). If the seniors have an issue with an admin; they should confront kylo so it isn't disorganised... Because let's be honest, he is probably the only one at the moment who is organised. Instead of a team full of opinions (which are easily swayed by peer pressure) you have obe ultimate decision.
Organisation Somewhat linked to leadership, but when someone is demoted, why give them a reassessment couple days later?? Then it isn't a demotion at all! Actually, if you are going to reassess; why not talk about it when they are demoted
Events So where are the events? Not tournaments or official ran events, but rather teamspeak parties... Giveaways etc. The admins seem to be so focused on staff related work it doesn't seem like they are planning anything FOR the community.
Promotions Inexperience in the senior team at the moment is crazy - admins being promoted with barely any experience as a senior (which is mainly a reason for the disorganisation and amount of mistakes made... Because they ARE bot used to an demanding team based environment). Promoting seniors just because "there is a space open"... Really? Seems like the admins are treating the seniors like numbers, not people (my pov). Work on assessing each moderator on experience and hardwork (hence the senior in senior moderator)
Mistakes I could be hypocritical here, but at this point in time I feel like it's very important to admit mistakes. You can't continue hiding and running away from the community. If you demote someone incorrectly, admit it openly with confidence. Feel like an event was wrong in your part? Admit that it was a fail and that you'll work on it! I regret making some decisions in the past; some of which were demoting a few quality seniors over some SILLY complaints (I demoted a senior for playing too much runescape and giving senior work less of a priority (glitchy ily) - but I barely admitted in making the wrong choice (because it was). I admit that I could have been more competent and less defensive at times. See what I just did @admins? I openly admitted things!!!!
Why? So the community can say "well, they are aware of their mistakes"!
That is all, will probably add more... And this is my opinion from both my experience as admin in the thriving days; and in the dying. .
Kylo isn't active enough to notice problems with the admins considering he has college and developing to worry about.
I don't really care about the staff anymore considering I just get on here to play the tournaments and else but I'd still like to see tons of maps being removed due to not only their aethestics but their gameplay as well. A large amount of maps that have been put in the rotations suck ass (Ex: Bermuda, Sector Six, etc) since they're most likely easy to be rushed by anyone who has an idea on how to hide and make quick moves. Also, I'm aware of the spawnkilling troubles you've had with some of the maps that have been added recently and if you're so concerned about it then why include them in the league (Which was apparently well planned..)?
You can't expect a tourney to be good while the maps are a complete garbage, just look at the spawn that TDM map has (Can't remember it's name), you can literally get inside it and kill everyone in there or just shoot at the cobwebs while the players are trying to get out.
Kylo isn't active enough to notice problems with the admins considering he has college and developing to worry about.
Whether or not he is active enough to worry about the admins or not is not my concern - but I am suggesting he LOOKS at the complaints because in the end; surely he is active enough to atleast look at them
Leadership Right now, there is very little leadership from the admins... So much so an admin got demoted By the seniors. In all honesty, this shouldn't happen att all. When Howsie, Gill and I were admins, only kylo could demote us... Which allowed structure and a sense of leadership. When you have seniors taking control of demotion power; it becomes a rotating mess (so many admins coming and going in a couple months span). If the seniors have an issue with an admin; they should confront kylo so it isn't disorganised... Because let's be honest, he is probably the only one at the moment who is organised. Instead of a team full of opinions (which are easily swayed by peer pressure) you have obe ultimate decision.
Organisation Somewhat linked to leadership, but when someone is demoted, why give them a reassessment couple days later?? Then it isn't a demotion at all! Actually, if you are going to reassess; why not talk about it when they are demoted
Events So where are the events? Not tournaments or official ran events, but rather teamspeak parties... Giveaways etc. The admins seem to be so focused on staff related work it doesn't seem like they are planning anything FOR the community.
Promotions Inexperience in the senior team at the moment is crazy - admins being promoted with barely any experience as a senior (which is mainly a reason for the disorganisation and amount of mistakes made... Because they ARE bot used to an demanding team based environment). Promoting seniors just because "there is a space open"... Really? Seems like the admins are treating the seniors like numbers, not people (my pov). Work on assessing each moderator on experience and hardwork (hence the senior in senior moderator)
Mistakes I could be hypocritical here, but at this point in time I feel like it's very important to admit mistakes. You can't continue hiding and running away from the community. If you demote someone incorrectly, admit it openly with confidence. Feel like an event was wrong in your part? Admit that it was a fail and that you'll work on it! I regret making some decisions in the past; some of which were demoting a few quality seniors over some SILLY complaints (I demoted a senior for playing too much runescape and giving senior work less of a priority (glitchy ily) - but I barely admitted in making the wrong choice (because it was). I admit that I could have been more competent and less defensive at times. See what I just did @admins? I openly admitted things!!!!
Why? So the community can say "well, they are aware of their mistakes"!
That is all, will probably add more... And this is my opinion from both my experience as admin in the thriving days; and in the dying. .
Whether or not he is active enough to worry about the admins or not is not my concern - but I am suggesting he LOOKS at the complaints because in the end; surely he is active enough to atleast look at them
He might look at them but will he do anything about it? Not trying to be rude to Kylo but I doubt he has the time to deal with it.
There should be. Also Kylo doesn't like to be involved in staff relations usually.
The only complaints he would be getting is about admins... And we only have 2. Not hard at all. Any other complaints towards lower staff he would probably pass it down to an admin/sr staff depending on the situation.
Leadership Right now, there is very little leadership from the admins... So much so an admin got demoted By the seniors. In all honesty, this shouldn't happen att all. When Howsie, Gill and I were admins, only kylo could demote us... Which allowed structure and a sense of leadership. When you have seniors taking control of demotion power; it becomes a rotating mess (so many admins coming and going in a couple months span). If the seniors have an issue with an admin; they should confront kylo so it isn't disorganised... Because let's be honest, he is probably the only one at the moment who is organised. Instead of a team full of opinions (which are easily swayed by peer pressure) you have obe ultimate decision.
Organisation Somewhat linked to leadership, but when someone is demoted, why give them a reassessment couple days later?? Then it isn't a demotion at all! Actually, if you are going to reassess; why not talk about it when they are demoted
Events So where are the events? Not tournaments or official ran events, but rather teamspeak parties... Giveaways etc. The admins seem to be so focused on staff related work it doesn't seem like they are planning anything FOR the community.
Promotions Inexperience in the senior team at the moment is crazy - admins being promoted with barely any experience as a senior (which is mainly a reason for the disorganisation and amount of mistakes made... Because they ARE bot used to an demanding team based environment). Promoting seniors just because "there is a space open"... Really? Seems like the admins are treating the seniors like numbers, not people (my pov). Work on assessing each moderator on experience and hardwork (hence the senior in senior moderator)
Mistakes I could be hypocritical here, but at this point in time I feel like it's very important to admit mistakes. You can't continue hiding and running away from the community. If you demote someone incorrectly, admit it openly with confidence. Feel like an event was wrong in your part? Admit that it was a fail and that you'll work on it! I regret making some decisions in the past; some of which were demoting a few quality seniors over some SILLY complaints (I demoted a senior for playing too much runescape and giving senior work less of a priority (glitchy ily) - but I barely admitted in making the wrong choice (because it was). I admit that I could have been more competent and less defensive at times. See what I just did @admins? I openly admitted things!!!!
Why? So the community can say "well, they are aware of their mistakes"!
That is all, will probably add more... And this is my opinion from both my experience as admin in the thriving days; and in the dying. .
Experienced staff like you deserve a promotion over retired members. They left for a while, and WORK ETHIC DOES CHANGE, so it'll be like promoting a new junior moderator to sr mod! Someone who commits to their mod work, deserves a promotion. Because let's be honest; the senior staff team is currently filled with atleast 2+ members who have retired in the past and WILL retire again (because that's just what happens with first time retirees).
Admin cycling solved! tl;dr (does somewhat start with the sr mod promotions)
An example of this was the whole para thing. The community asks why he gets demoted but no one says anything. Yes, I understand that demotion reasons aren't really given out unless the person who got demoted says something, but this is the first time an Admin has ever been demoted. People should know what happened, as they keep this server going. Btw, we weren't even told.
Staff & Community Relations:
Right now, it sucks. Seems like every day you see a new thread about the staff lol. We need to have more events, and I really liked what Jozz was planning. Me and Arigenn are trying to get UHCs up and running, but the devs are super busy on fixing other problems such as lag.
Development is Somewhat Slow:
But with the addition of ALM and pav coming back, I believe we're on a great track.
Advertisement:
What happened to Youtubers!? As for events, I hope we can grow and just get better.
Policies:
This kinda came up with Para being demoted. According to him, he was never given a warning prior to his demotion. First of all, since when can the senior staff demote an admin? Especially without even telling him what he did wrong! Some people are being promoted when they probably shouldn't be. This is kinda about peachy, but TBH, I'm glad he's back, so I don't care.
Experienced staff like you deserve a promotion over retired members. They left for a while, and WORK ETHIC DOES CHANGE, so it'll be like promoting a new junior moderator to sr mod! Someone who commits to their mod work, deserves a promotion. Because let's be honest; the senior staff team is currently filled with atleast 2+ members who have retired in the past and WILL retire again (because that's just what happens with first time retirees).
Admin cycling solved! tl;dr (does somewhat start with the sr mod promotions)
Well apparently my most recent feedback doesn't suggest that I should be promoted LOL :P
An example of this was the whole para thing. The community asks why he gets demoted but no one says anything. Yes, I understand that demotion reasons aren't really given out unless the person who got demoted says something, but this is the first time an Admin has ever been demoted. People should know what happened, as they keep this server going. Btw, we weren't even told.
Staff & Community Relations:
Right now, it sucks. Seems like every day you see a new thread about the staff lol. We need to have more events, and I really liked what Jozz was planning. Me and Arigenn are trying to get UHCs up and running, but the devs are super busy on fixing other problems such as lag.
Development is Somewhat Slow:
But with the addition of ALM and pav coming back, I believe we're on a great track.
Advertisement:
What happened to Youtubers!? As for events, I hope we can grow and just get better.
Policies:
This kinda came up with Para being demoted. According to him, he was never given a warning prior to his demotion. First of all, since when can the senior staff demote an admin? Especially without even telling him what he did wrong! Some people are being promoted when they probably shouldn't be. This is kinda about peachy, but TBH, I'm glad he's back, so I don't care.
Will update this post with more later.
On the front of the Staff and Community relationship issues, I'd be happy to talk to you about ideas of mine that were forwarded to the admins (or so FrozenSolstice says). Also, you could join the Avicus community slack, if you haven't already.
Oh and where are the seniors? I can not believe mods are responding and no one from an official perspective is assisting... I commend the moda who are trying to do senior work :)
;P
Thanks Jozz.
UPDATE: All suggestions have been forwarded to Admins already. Thanks!
An example of this was the whole para thing. The community asks why he gets demoted but no one says anything. Yes, I understand that demotion reasons aren't really given out unless the person who got demoted says something, but this is the first time an Admin has ever been demoted. People should know what happened, as they keep this server going. Btw, we weren't even told.
Staff & Community Relations:
Right now, it sucks. Seems like every day you see a new thread about the staff lol. We need to have more events, and I really liked what Jozz was planning. Me and Arigenn are trying to get UHCs up and running, but the devs are super busy on fixing other problems such as lag.
Development is Somewhat Slow:
But with the addition of ALM and pav coming back, I believe we're on a great track.
Advertisement:
What happened to Youtubers!? As for events, I hope we can grow and just get better.
Policies:
This kinda came up with Para being demoted. According to him, he was never given a warning prior to his demotion. First of all, since when can the senior staff demote an admin? Especially without even telling him what he did wrong! Some people are being promoted when they probably shouldn't be. This is kinda about peachy, but TBH, I'm glad he's back, so I don't care.
Will update this post with more later.
The dev are actively working every day to improve the server. Just because stuff isn't happening on the revisions page, that doesn't mean stuff isn't happening. Trust me, some special stuff is happening behind the scenes.
Did I say that? I have no idea where you're getting that...
Well earlier you wanted Kylo involved in demotions which I don't disagree with but I believe he shouldn't have the power to completely over rule the Senior staff. Though I see where you are coming from but I believe there is no point to continuing this argument.
Well earlier you wanted Kylo involved in demotions which I don't disagree with but I believe he shouldn't have the power to completely over rule the Senior staff. Though I see where you are coming from but I believe there is no point to continuing this argument.
I did say that, but I didn't outline that he should be the SOLE decider. Also I don't think this is an argument - but rather a discussion about leadership :)
I did say that, but I didn't outline that he should be the SOLE decider. Also I don't think this is an argument - but rather a discussion about leadership :)
Well it could be seen as a argument to some people :)
Have they actually developed anything? I was banned for a month and the only thing I can see that's different is bolded chat when you die or get a kill .-.
staff team, mods are mostly good seniors are fucked admins eh
The dev are actively working every day to improve the server. Just because stuff isn't happening on the revisions page, that doesn't mean stuff isn't happening. Trust me, some special stuff is happening behind the scenes.
I never said you weren't working hard...I know you guys are. I'm just saying I think it was a bit slow when it was only Kylo and Javi. Now that you were promoted and pave is back, I believe we're on a great track.
I never said you weren't working hard...I know you guys are. I'm just saying I think it was a bit slow when it was only Kylo and Javi. Now that you were promoted and pave is back, I believe we're on a great track.
I was just making a general statement since there have been similar complaints of a similar nature. Just quoted you because you mentioned it. =)
Have they actually developed anything? I was banned for a month and the only thing I can see that's different is bolded chat when you die or get a kill .-.
staff team, mods are mostly good seniors are fucked admins eh
and the block lag has been slightly less for me
They have developed a few things (crates and related things). The Developer team seem to be more active now and are probably working hard to develop new things to benefit the server and so the players enjoy it. Rather than people saying things like "Has anything been developed", people need to respect them more because people can't do what they do, so they should just appreciate what they do and wait patiently because they can't do better. I do think too that Kylo should be part of demotions/promotions and be the core part of the senior staff team but he has other things to do and needs to have a life too.
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